Allah "whoever calls me father or says i have a son, is a disbeliever" Jesus "i am the Son of God, i and the Father are one" Central Dawah "Jesus prayed to allah" ... Dawah Logic
@agorabusinessgroup27232 ай бұрын
You guys don’t understand how excruciating and enraging it is to debate with Muslims (deceitful, deceptive, dishonest, manipulative etc…persons). Glory be to God in all his soldiers defending the faith, in the name of the Father, his Holy living incarnated word Jesus Christ (true God and True man) and the Holy Spirit.
@JustBeYouTy2 ай бұрын
Makes my head spin.
@LetTheTruthBeTold83242 ай бұрын
I do, amd I have debated this one, he is aboit as dishonest as they come.
@cmumma132 ай бұрын
Central is either ignorant or blatantly lying. He change his position a couple of times.
@WusWrongWitUs2 ай бұрын
Hes Muslim..of course hes blatantly lying..he has no choice😂😂
@Sarahaurelia032 ай бұрын
That's the typical Muslim tactic. Speak quickly, talk over your opponent, change topic like a monkey to confuse the opponents and themselves. Claim victory. Dunning Kruger effect at work
@boredman18902 ай бұрын
I think central literally has an illness or memory loss
@joshreed-fk5ij2 ай бұрын
This debate gave me a headache. Central literally argued his way back to his original point and then said that’s not what I said. What a clown, he’s so arrogant.
@Rubberduck-zt8lm2 ай бұрын
Muslim pride proves the Islamic narrative... Again😂
@Jonathan_Brown1452 ай бұрын
And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, ‘Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?’ that is, ‘My Gd, My Gd, why hast thou forsaken me?’ [Matthew 27:46]
@kingstanyt2 ай бұрын
@@Jonathan_Brown145He's quoting from psalm 22 Abdool
@Jonathan_Brown1452 ай бұрын
@@kingstanyt yes I know because if you don’t like one word of God, you go to another gospel where the view of Jesus was different so you use that scripture Matthew, Luke, and Jon they all had different views of who Jesus was John’s. Jesus was God in three persons .
@yungpo9853Ай бұрын
@@Jonathan_Brown145 Just shut up adrool.😂
@joken58912 ай бұрын
Central is a waste of airtime, i wouldn't waste time listening to this guy. GB Avery for his patience ❤
@therottingstench2 ай бұрын
You cant win against these people. It is so hard to. Not because their arguments are good. But because they do not understand ours.
@UncensoredChristian2 ай бұрын
No they understand our arguments they are just dishonest.
@okdb1402 ай бұрын
They understand theyre just playing st*pid
@mudaaa10152 ай бұрын
they understand but if they agree they become exmuslim by default
@raphaelfeneje4862 ай бұрын
I'm glad my fellow brothers answered. They do understand, if they accept, they'll become ex muslims
@alfonsoperez44742 ай бұрын
They understand they just play stupid. If they use logic and reasoning islam is destroyed.
@uniquevideosUk2 ай бұрын
Deflecting & getting loud is all this muslim did throughout this live.
@WusWrongWitUs2 ай бұрын
Thats all they do in 95% of the lives😂😂
@LetTheTruthBeTold83242 ай бұрын
@@WusWrongWitUsall of them
@therottingstench2 ай бұрын
This guy is GASLIGHTING!!
@WusWrongWitUs2 ай бұрын
Nah. Youre being too nice. HES LYINGGGGG
@lyndonsanchez78492 ай бұрын
central jump from the 2nd floor to where his car park to show he's in the car😂😂😂
@Melohana-kb5dc2 ай бұрын
I lost braincells hearing central talk. He is always on some humiliation ritual. He needs to understand apologetics is not his thing and leave it. He lacks reading comprehension skills he doesn't understand the sources he brings and always the same sources humble him 😭😭😭
@yoyohanaBR2 ай бұрын
They will say it's a Jewish idiom, but will say Jesus was a Muslim, not a Jew living the Jewish faith of his time. 🤣
@Jonathan_Brown1452 ай бұрын
Jews and Christians prayed to God as Allah long before the prophet Mohammed, who himself acknowledged that Arabian Jews and Christians of his time used the word Allah for God.
@yoyohanaBR2 ай бұрын
@@Jonathan_Brown145 doesn't change anything that I said?
@snazzy1762 ай бұрын
CENTRAL: It was a Jewish idiom. EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD: How do you know? CENTRAL: Reasons!
@Jonnnndoeeee2 ай бұрын
Logic is too funny with it
@mudaaa10152 ай бұрын
my guy cant even perform taqiyya properly. like driving carrr??? am 💀
@ScribesKartel2 ай бұрын
Bro doesnt know what a idiom even is 😂😂😂😂
@bonniecolon76802 ай бұрын
King Christ never spread the Gospel via the sword. Their actions speak for themselves.
@Selahhhhhhhhhhh2 ай бұрын
52:50 Central couldn't follow one train of argumentation. I am BAFFLED. 1. Avery - the Glory that Jesus is talking about in verse 5 is not the same glory the the disciples share with Jesus and the father. Central- The glory that Jesus shares with the father is the same (because theres only one according to central) glory the disciples share.... Central the glory that Jesus is sharing with the disciples in the father is ANOTHER TYPE OF GLORY than the one in VERSE 5. THAT ONE in verse 5 is only shared within the persons of YHWH. Is that line of argumentation SOOOOOOOO hard to follow!?!? REALLYYYYYYYYY!?
@3factsNG2 ай бұрын
Why are you running, while running to the car😂😂😂
@jvchnel20632 ай бұрын
I witnessed this LIVE I was in tears 😂😂😂
@Jonathan_Brown1452 ай бұрын
What difference does it make who Jesus prayed to if he was God he should not have been praying to anyone
@yungpo98532 ай бұрын
@@Jonathan_Brown145 ****Sigh*****
@KVJ-w7hАй бұрын
@@Jonathan_Brown145😐
@mr.lifeline5839Ай бұрын
@@Jonathan_Brown145 who was allah praying to? Don't you dare tell it's "send blessings"
@lyndonsanchez78492 ай бұрын
when a man lie his voice modulate like central
@cristiangomez45372 ай бұрын
So he is driving, but he can go through his notes? Couldn't show the source on screen, but then say he is running for asking for it? Like, im so confused 😭
@JustBeYouTy2 ай бұрын
The devil loves to confuse
@snazzy1762 ай бұрын
You can literally hear the audio quality change when he goes from indoors to outdoors.
@coolhawk200324 күн бұрын
He is outside so he can't bring up his computer. Standing in front of his house by his car. To funny
@calledtoserve7292 ай бұрын
You can not contradict yourself as much as CENTRAL DAWAH
@3factsNG2 ай бұрын
Teaching them with material he didnt understand was refuting his own arguments 😂😂
@imperfekt_zen2 ай бұрын
i cant believe he used refuting heresies, and, in the book, the first sentence is "Jesus Christ was not a mere man, begotten from Joseph in the ordinary course of nature, but was very God, begotten of the Father most high, and very man, born of the Virgin." lol
@Selahhhhhhhhhhh2 ай бұрын
@@imperfekt_zen I just saw this too 💀
@lahleholivia73982 ай бұрын
Al lah is not a name. It is a generic Arabic term for god. Even Al lahs 99 names are not names, but descriptions.
@kocur-ul9kuАй бұрын
What dose than The Lah mean😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Its A Name you dint even know waht it means. It means the Moon God!!!!!
@coolhawk200324 күн бұрын
Moon God is like God both are titles. Just describes what type of God. You prove nothing
@user-vl1dm9yc6x2 ай бұрын
When the Muslims send an Ottoman water boy to do dawah, they're not sending their best
@litedemup2 ай бұрын
He says Before Abraham was “I am.” I am is one of his name 🎉
@Selahhhhhhhhhhh2 ай бұрын
1:00:36 WHAT!?!?!?! He never says we partake in the divine nature and glory with the father in Against Heresies!? Bro what is Central saying!?!? He thinks we won't fact check all this?
@splodgeapologetics2 ай бұрын
ask a muslim a question and he answers a different one lol
@allenallen25082 ай бұрын
Exactly
@RobertSmooth2000Ай бұрын
Literally
@grantmiller5073Ай бұрын
Central is running
@grantmiller5073Ай бұрын
Jesus didn't flush sayan out of his nose like mohamed did in the morning
@notgoodman66512 ай бұрын
The muslim is like I have a proof but you have to look for it.
@machotkeyz808628 күн бұрын
Central needs watch himself back. Hopefully the embarrassment might make him retire from trying to debate. He has no idea!
@Gearkamar2 ай бұрын
Yall got Central shook up.He's usually more composed 😅
@LetTheTruthBeTold83242 ай бұрын
na, this is basic central
@hebrew12142 ай бұрын
JESUS IS GOD.
@Sky-xd2nu2 ай бұрын
Last year i felt Central was shifting. It seems someone recorrupted his his datadrives... Shuffling.exe overactive.
@SINQUEFIELD8329 күн бұрын
The tone of that guy sounded like he was annoyed, panicked, and about to cry.
@sultanajones9054Ай бұрын
How can someone be so much in denial it is crazy. His deafness is deep. But his pride to see that he is wrong is Amazing. If he does not simply yeald to Jesus he will be lost.
@divadrelffehs2 ай бұрын
These guys are like 13 year old boys who want to wrestle, get pinned, ask to be let up, then declare victory and tell everyone how they beat you. This guy doesn't understand the trinity, the Scripture, the role of the church father's, or even what a primary source is.
@Selahhhhhhhhhhh2 ай бұрын
Why does central think we should just take him at his word without a source....???Weirddddd.
@haveyouconsidered78042 ай бұрын
I too have so many things in my notes 😅
@VioletaDolor2 ай бұрын
This Dawah guys so hilarious
@RobertoBrooks-py1pzАй бұрын
Avery, your patience is better than mine because this guy knows the truth and deny it. I would’ve brush the dust off my sandals many days ago with this guy.
@wandasmith91802 ай бұрын
It never fails, you ask a question, Muslims jump like a kangaro from topic to topic and never answer. It's mentally exhausting.
@23dannyo2 ай бұрын
Bro thought he completely stumped him.. “CRICKETS!!” 😂😂
@SantinoCadiz2 ай бұрын
Central destroyed again! Praise be to the living God! In Jesus name!❤
@danp115128 күн бұрын
Central has to be the most annoying apologists. He's so prideful and arrogant all while lieing none stop... has to go in and get his notes, 5 min later he's in his car in the city. He's giving a bad argument and lieing over it to attempt to make it more valid and powerful all while exposing his attacks
@islamisamess61602 ай бұрын
Jesus is talking about TWO GLORIES: John 17, Verse 22 "I HAVE GIVEN THEM THE GLORY THAT YOU GAVE ME, that they may be one as we are one- " John 17, verse 24 "“Father, I WANT THOSE YOU HAVE GIVEN ME want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and TO SEE MY GLORY, THE GLORY YOU HAVE GIVEN ME because you loved me before the creation of the world." One glory is already given, and the other glory is yet to be seen - this is the glory that Jesus had with the Father before the world was created.
@civicKidEG2 ай бұрын
I haven’t yet seen one of these lives where these muslims not ONCEEEEE be HONEST with anything n lie like they can atleast agree with what the text says they dnt have to believe it but b honest with what the text says
@officialysa8533Ай бұрын
Central the goat fr 🐐🐐❤️
@professor10622 ай бұрын
😂😂😂bro went outside
@Siinnerr2 ай бұрын
You know central be dancing when he start saying something that really isnt funny is kinda funny 😂
@francempholo4091Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂the host reaction is killing 😅
@section-voi2 ай бұрын
'Hallelujah' is used multiple times in the new testament and it means 'Jah/Yah be praised'. Jah or Yah (Hebrew: יָהּ, Yāh) is a short form of the tetragrammaton יהוה (YHWH), the personal name of God: Yahweh, which the ancient Israelites used. So yes, Yahweh is the name for God in the new testament.
@Gravioli.2 ай бұрын
With the yahweh thing in the new testament, could’ve put him in his place real quick. Yahweh just means “I am” so Jesus does call himself yahweh in the new testament when he says “before abraham was, i am”.
@danp115128 күн бұрын
It's really jaw dropping that central will talk about a proper name for GOD in the Bible when Allah never gave an actual name to begin with. Claims islam is a continuation yet he didn't tell momo I'm JEHOVA/YAHWEH or even give momo a name to begin with
@splodgeapologetics2 ай бұрын
he'll accept church fathers as authority but not scripture but if someone quotes a hadith to support Quran he'd say its weak or not reliable double standards of muslims. he accepts John 17v22 but not John 17v5 and talks about context proving he doesnt know what context IS and that he hasnt honestly read the whole PRAYER of Jesus. this is the desperation of Muslims lol
@oliveiratreepubl2 ай бұрын
To be absentminded on purpose is mind boggling at the very least.🤔
@nslvip2 ай бұрын
Wow yhe whole cyril link section man ... Over here u think ur opponent would be so gracious to find your link for you? You would get a telling off for being unprepared and yet this piece of junk showed not an ounce of gratitude. Unbelievable.
@JuliusBinongo-my1iq2 ай бұрын
Christ received glory from the father..John 17:5,this glory is being " SON"..Matt.17:5/ Heb.1:4-5
@gelsoncaela8833Ай бұрын
I respect Godlogic's patience. I could not keep on with this guy....
@jachet74622 ай бұрын
Central is confusing and not consistent .
@enockt62182 ай бұрын
Central had no idea. God was called Father in old testament. Dawah people like this, goes around in islamic channel to teach other muslim what bible say. When they have no idea even basic of bible. Deut. 32:6 Is this the way you repay the LORD, O foolish and unwise people? Is he not your Father, your Creator, who made you and formed you?
@Arthur-bz9psАй бұрын
I don’t agree with Muslim teachings and not Muslim but when he said what happened to God’s name in the New Testament he made a good point that’s why they got quiet and couldn’t explain it clearly..
@PravoslavenАй бұрын
Whats the good point?
@abstractronin41392 ай бұрын
Swear Allah is not a name. It just means God doesn't it. So wouldn't his critic still apply to his own religion.
@Usernamebreh2 ай бұрын
Central is a perfect example of a dog trying to catch its own tail.
@gerrymarciano81102 ай бұрын
Our God told Moses his name "I AM" in the O.T .Jesus claimed "I am in the N.T.
@mckenziemwiyasubeb2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂 so elohim is nothing to him, l see
@JustBeYouTy2 ай бұрын
These Muslims make me cringe
@theimpaler23172 ай бұрын
31:41 you could hear the footsteps as he was running to the car to not get caught in a lie
@donnastevens44242 ай бұрын
So good that everything is recorded. Wow i dont know how Avery can go down this guys rabbit whole and come out not being totaly dillusional only by the Holy Spirt. Thanks be to JESUS that he gives Windom and patience to our brothers. 😅
@kat4jesus2 ай бұрын
Poor central got boiled up
@geraldshearn2 ай бұрын
Bro like 15 minutes of he saying you waffling and not his fault you can’t find the source he says he has but refuses to give the source and continues to say he’s teaching Christian’s about commentary on early Christian fathers . …. Bro this is bad….. and I’ve seen mindless conversations on here before . But bro what the serious heck is going on here?
@FableChronicles_Ай бұрын
bro these Muslim v Christian debates are hilarious 😭😭Glory to God!
@Selahhhhhhhhhhh2 ай бұрын
I literally just went researching too and couldny find what Central is talking about.... 43:25 but let me continue watching to see if anything else happened.
@Genyus999Ай бұрын
Bro this was hilarious bro ran to his car and showed a video of him outside the car.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Jonathan_Brown1452 ай бұрын
The essential uses of the name of God the Father in the New Testament are Theos (θεός the Greek term for God), Kyrios (i.e. Lord in Greek) and Patēr (πατήρ i.e. Father in Greek). The Aramaic word "Abba" (אבא), meaning "Father" is used by Jesus in Mark 14:36 and also appears in Romans 8:15 and Galatians 4:6.
@joeblack71002 ай бұрын
Malachi 3:1 behold I send my messenger and he will prepare the way before me . Jesus make it clear that he is the one speaking here in Matthew 11:10 Nozim, Muslim quote from a chapter regarding God does not share his glory but what did Jesus say in? John 16:15 all things that the father has are mine therefore I said that he will take of up mine and declare it to you
@Raphael555872 ай бұрын
I don't like liars 😢central is a liar How does anyone use source from his/her notes
@alismith17032 ай бұрын
Ahhh bro stop being mean to central, the man is basically suffering from mental issues and couple that with confusion of Allah piss be upon him the man is playing with two handicaps
@arsynoeford96382 ай бұрын
Wow ,does central not know the difference 😳
@WhitneyR.2 ай бұрын
LOL he doesn’t tell the truth. He said Logic called Haydock a church father. I scrolled back to check and Logic only called him “a source.”
@stephenmorris338227 күн бұрын
The Bible is going to fry him. Lol
@macgregormick65Ай бұрын
31:37 you can hear the ambient noise from central going from inside a building to outside. Takkiya 😂😂😂typical
@Akhgy2 ай бұрын
Bro taking about st Cyril. He made clear what he is talking about it’s a different glory that is share with believers.. the Glory that allows us to be Christ like- truthful, upright in virtue etc that is what ST Cyril commentary about for 17: 22-23 That it say that by these it may glorify the Father through Christ 😮💨 it’s simple
@marshallmccurry82972 ай бұрын
One of the components of Christian theology is the Glorification process - the final “glory” that is to be attained. With various points, things are said without needing been said. It’s the context that informs, while also using the Bible didactically to further tell us.
@carljohn75022 ай бұрын
Is this an old video?
@Selahhhhhhhhhhh2 ай бұрын
50:27 Central cant understand that there are different types of divine glory....really???????????
@elsanto7242Ай бұрын
I just witnessed GodLogic cooking Central.
@petermunyaradzimuzarewetu8089Ай бұрын
Man o man. Central is bringing his own beliefs about scholars in the mix. We as Christians may or may not use them as they are also fallible. Simple as that,
@donnastevens44242 ай бұрын
12:51 Centrals lies catching up to him. He says let me go in thd house....min 32:00 says iv been driving around in the City 😂😂😂😂 Sad sad attempts...
@theroman1009Ай бұрын
First of all. YHWH is the name of God of the old testament. It's a term that means 'I AM WHO I AM' second. Every time Jesus said IAM, it's a reference that phrase. A claim to the name above all.
@arsynoeford96382 ай бұрын
He thinks that glory is limited lol ,central is slow
@Akhgy2 ай бұрын
What is dude saying? Ofc it’s a different glory?theologically the Glory of God is a different Glory of Creation. The Glory which god doesn’t share is the Essence or the Nature of him.. But the one that is share is the Glory of truth, Love , Goodness. For example Creation beheld the Glory of God. You may think according to his Logic creation is divine as God. No It through creation that you see the Glory of God that you see that creation is a testimony on The Power and Majesty of God. 😮💨 It’s not the same Glory, the Glory is not the same. Sometimes it says we will be immortal in the faith of Christ. That is a glory as well we as believer will have. That is a manifestation of the Glory of God The Glory is not the Glory as creating or the Glory of Majesty Bro Glory has different meaning in scripture
@abigailnwaeze35392 ай бұрын
This guy Central please see the truth and it will set you free from having no logic. The arguments you have brought are so weak it’s ridiculous. My brothers in Christ thanks for showing patience and you did well for entertaining this. It’s so sad to watch a completely closed mind and heart. I pray Yewah reveals Himself and Central has an encounter with the one true God🙏🏿
@Sarahaurelia032 ай бұрын
The Muslim dude uses typical Muslim Apologetics. Speak as quickly as possible while dodging and changing subjects like a rabbit confusing opponent and himself while claiming victory
@clay66199192 ай бұрын
Jesus clearly says he came to confirm the torah and establish a new covenant. Isn't YHWH god in the torah?
@jacstvofficial44902 ай бұрын
Yes. It one of the name of God.
@Joe_Kondeezenartz2 ай бұрын
It literally sounds like youre talking your son.. pretty embarrassing for central tbh, this was a hard watch.
@Jonathan_Brown1452 ай бұрын
Jews and Christians prayed to God as Allah long before the prophet Mohammed, who himself acknowledged that Arabian Jews and Christians of his time used the word Allah for God.
@mudaaa10152 ай бұрын
THIS GUY SAID THERE IS ONE GLORY NOW THIS GUY SAYS HE DIDNT SAY IT. WTH ITS recordeeddd doesnt he know?
@LetTheTruthBeTold83242 ай бұрын
the new testament uses kyrios and theos for the hebrew yahwey and is used in the new testament throughout.
@hezykaringa15702 ай бұрын
This central guy is completely brain dead
@23dannyo2 ай бұрын
The fact that almost all Muslims hear these debates and think they truly won blows my mind
@Akhgy2 ай бұрын
central contradict himself in the beginning. Central doesn’t know the meaning of a Idiom because the Title Father is not a idiom. Secondly what does he mean by proper title? The word God is a generic term that is attributed to any deity. The Name of God Yahweh is a Name( Which mean I Am) which is a sacred term. Father is a Generic term as well however, that doesn’t change what Jesus or even the Prophets in the Old Testament refer to Him as. That is not a solid argument Further he states that the New Testament God doesn’t have a title so it’s not the same as the old? Which is not an argument but let’s grant it as one. The New Testament refer to what the prophets says or what they says God is or etc. Secondly it’s a Jewish territory, and which they are religious teachers ,so if we go by his argument he saying that Jesus is worship a different God that the prophets? Which would be a shocking/ blasphemous claim Third The New Testament doesn’t need to have the specific name of God in the Book, however it does Vaguely mention it. What is the Justification to make such claims? So by granting this argument central is basically calling Jesus and the disciples a heretic. Which is a should not be taken lightly And to Call the Word of The Father which is even highlighted in the first Chapter of John the Baptist ( prophet). A heretic is blasphemous, sigh these Muslim come up with arguments which are baseless to justify there religion It like he doesn’t think through his arguments before making them