THUNDERBIRDS UNSEEN: Behind the Scenes of CITY OF FIRE (Making Of Cult TV Documentary)

Thunderbirds Are Go in this behind the scenes look at the production of "City of Fire", a fabulously flame-grilled episode of Gerry and Sylvia Anderson's Thunderbirds remembered by many for its visual scale and action set-pieces. In this deep-dive making of, we use original scripts, newly-unearthed film material, and other unseen production paperwork to shed new light on the episode. Originally planned as a 25 minute adventure, "City of Fire" was extended once the order was given for Thunderbirds to rocket into the fifty minute format.
What was there to begin with and what was added to pad the run time? Find out in this episode of Thunderbirds Unsee.
Filmed in Supermarionation, Thunderbirds has endured since its first broadcast in 1965. In this documentary series, meet the team of scriptwriters, directors, editors, puppeteers and special effects artists (who also made shows such as Supercar, Joe 90, Fireball XL5, Stingray, and more) as we reveal the space age secrets that blasted UK television into the 21st century and inspired films such as Star Wars and James Bond. We’ll be aided by original documentation, and original studio film material presented for the first time - and in 4k!
Experience Thunderbirds like never before with lost deleted scenes and alternative edits!
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Century 21 Films Ltd is a multi-faceted production company whose work spans drama to documentary, miniature effects to puppet shows. It was founded by a group of filmmakers who first collaborated on Filmed in Supermarionation, the story of Gerry and Sylvia Anderson's hit puppet shows including Thunderbirds, Stingray and Captain Scarlet.
Since then, we have worked for a multitude of high-profile clients including ITV, BBC, Mammoth Productions, British Film Institute and the Halifax working on projects such Thunderbirds, Endeavour, Doctor Who and The Twilight Zone.
In addition to our regular filmmaking services, we specialise in ‘Supermarionation’ - the puppetry filming technique used to make shows like Thunderbirds and have collaborated with ITV repeatedly to provide specialised services. Our work has been featured on The One Show, This Morning, Good Morning Britain, BBC News, ITV News and Mastermind.
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[@bizuko2307]

"It's a race against time to see if the family get what they deserve" had me cracking up, lmao

[@EthanDean57]

The dry sense of humour in the narration is fantastic, I'm dying here. This channel is a treasure

[@gshaw0]

same "let's get on with it then" 😄

[@jackmessent3490]

I love the humour injected into these videos as well. Very amusing.

[@minicle426]

City of Fire was always one of my favourites. Mainly for the Mole/Firefly duo.

[@Signerdragon123]

Same. Honestly, whilst I cannot rewatch the Carlton VHS releases due to the overly dark picture quality, it does surprisingly lend itself well to the Firefly scene.

[@gshaw0]

I do really enjoy the production of these videos, the casual delivery of "the landing rockets burnt the occupants of the two cars to a crisp" nearly caused me to spit out my tea 😂

[@clivestuarteardley6049]

I was lucky to meet Derek and talk to him about Thunderbirds. He signed my Japanese Thunderbirds Town Mook Visual Guidebook and I still have it today. Such a nice modest and very talented man. A genius!

[@hafstrat]

These videos are wonderful. As a 67 year old, these puppet shows were highlights in a fairly mundane and exceedingly low-tech childhood. The best kids tv shows by a country mile. Wonderful that you have explored and shared this history. Still upset about David😢 Graham.

[@marcdraco2189]

@@hafstrat what did I miss? (Sorry, I feel as if I should know the name having watched everything Anderson from Stingray to 1999. Terahawks and I had similar feelings to Gerry.

[@hafstrat]

@@marcdraco2189 He voiced Brains, Parker and many other voices. And the original Daleks alongside Peter Hawkins.

[@hafstrat]

And grandpa pig in Peppa Pig. He died aged 99. 🥲

[@marcdraco2189]

I guess can’t complain. 99 is a pretty good run. I had no idea he was brains and Parker. Wow. Some talent right there. I can hear them in my mind just chatting away. Wonderful portrayal because he played them straight. Not “it’s just a kid’s show”.

[@hafstrat]

@@marcdraco2189 you’ll see his name on the end credits of the shows 👍🏼

[@century21films28]

Apologies everyone - the narration gets the broadcast date wrong. It should say January 1966 - not December.

[@smorris12]

We'll forgive you. Just this once though 😉

[@highpath4776]

run of the mill stringray adventure ? ( for next vid )

[@century21films28]

@@highpath4776 Yes. That is not an error. The sort of story told in Stingray.

[@ewaf88]

I wonder how much the Thunderbirds team were paid back in those days

[@quillerpen]

Nobody's perfect! And you're doing such a great job uncovering all this. I shall watch the eps in a new light in future. And I love the way the narration keeps the tone light

[@florianfranken]

It really is impressive that you all manage to identify when which footage were shot!

[@marktubeie07]

The voiceover scripts are superb, hilarious and just plain masterful. Comedy timing at its best. I applaud all of you !!👋👋

[@tizzwas]

Stephen your scripting and narration is very funny. 😂 Plus your episode version is far better!

[@geoffreymccarthy250]

These Thunderbirds Unseen videos are bloody marvellous. Very interesting stuff and well produced. Thank you to all those involved.

[@smithpm81]

thank you C21 for all your hard work, it is very much appreciated A+++++

[@iancotterill2286]

I've always felt that the episodes benefitted from being expanded, and 'City of Fire' is a prime example of this. The sub-plot with the fire-cutting gas and the addition of the Firefly really builds on the action and tension of the rescue. 😎

[@glenncooney3959]

“The world’s most annoying family”. You’re so right there. They almost got their just desserts for having such a disobedient little child in Tommy. 😂😂😂

[@ACtheLegend]

Disobedient? A wholesome family spends some quality time playing cops and robbers. They're literally the one group of people that it's easiest to build a rapport with and root for them to be saved.

[@minicle426]

I can think of a good dozen or so far more annoying families...

[@BenBanjo87]

While later episodes became a lot more adventurous, _City of Fire_ is definitely one of my favourites. It highlights the bravery of Scott and Virgil in their use of potentially unsafe equipment to save the family; and also has two of the best Pod vehicles teaming up.

[@JonCurry42]

These films are becoming a real staple of my Saturday mornings - another excellent episode!

[@jackmessent3490]

Really looking forward to watching this latest instalment. Thank you so much for providing us fans with these very entertaining and informative videos. Derek Meddings, an absolute legend in the world of special effects!

[@mx472000]

I've always wanted to meet Derek Meddings.

[@MediaArchive2-z9f]

I have a planned book character with his surname in tribute. She's a technicall spy scientist and occurs accidentally blows up stuff. Fun fact: Derek Meddings worked on James Bond until his death in 1995. The Spy Who Loved Me (1977) , also starring Shane Rimmer himself. Moonraker (1979) Goldeneye (1995)

[@davidwatkinson1226]

The best geek award for services to older men who still believe in TB goes to you. Well done.👏👏👏

[@johnclay7644]

memorable ep (similar to the towering inferno 1974) informative BTS (cameras) great fire SFX great informative documentary look forward to more.

[@ianprescott4260]

Another fabulous piece of patient detective work and edited together beautifully. Well done all.

[@thecelestialtoygazer7816]

Hope these videos don't stay unlisted, I love this series

[@Miru_Man]

Increasing the episode length was such a good choice. The story had so much more to it with these changes.

[@SkeletonSyskey]

Love the narrators description of the family.

[@QualityCandor]

My favorite episode. Jokes about the Carters aside lol, I love the drama added by the cutting torch dilemma, and how it turns the episode into a really strong show of bravery from Scott and Virgil.

[@douglasbadger9049]

'But sadly, international Rescue get to them in time'

[@pascallefevre1148]

The line is funny in itself, but the brilliant delivery makes it absolutely hilarious. 😂

[@minicle426]

Sounds like something from Top Gear.

[@Heavy-Metal-Spike]

Yep - brilliant - so much info I couldn't keep track of it all - but made me laugh all the way through (the intonation and pronunciation of the presenter is PERFECT for both serious detail AND humour - well-done everybody! 👏👏👏👏👏 - and thank you all.

[@lukegreen5341]

0:10 An Another Awesome Behind The Scenes Look Episode Of Gerry Anderson's Thunderbirds The Original Series. Thanks Century 21 Films Buddy Amigo Dude Mate. XXxxx ❤🇬🇧 🇦🇺 🇺🇸

[@MrNas42]

Brilliant! ❤❤❤

[@eagleal]

Great stuff Stephen. Always loved City Of Fire for its scope and of course those Mole and Firefly scenes.

[@Heavy-Metal-Spike]

two-and-a half minutes in and I'm laughing my ass off already - *_GREAT job!_* ❤❤❤

[@gojohnniegogo]

That Penny and Parker bit gave me a proper full-on belly laugh!

[@kerrygligorovic9758]

"The City of Fire" is one of my favourite episode of Thunderbirds as it features the fire engines, the Firefly and the mole too. To be honest I like both the Firefly and the Mole because they're both important in the rescue operation like this episode like how do you expect Scott and Virgil to rescue the family trapped underground basement with these vehicles.

[@campacolasworkshop6042]

22:32 flaming Magnesium ribbon, loved playing with this in 60's science lessons 😂 Thanks for your hard work on these 😊

[@pauljazzman408]

Love the narration, cool dry and funny. Interesting how they expanded the 25 min episodes.

[@PearBear115]

I absolutely love this series and the insight that you guys have, it’s above and beyond what fans have ever been able to do previously with just the broadcast versions. Very much looking forward to the next video, The Uninvited was my favourite episode as a kid!

[@borusa32]

Absolutely brilliant. You apply the same care to these as the Dalek 63-88 guys do.

[@cedarcam]

Yes those like these are brilliant

[@chrischandler5806]

One of my favourite episodes. I love the humour in these interesting videos. Great Job!

[@lewismassie]

I must say, the funky cutting gas is a pretty clever subplot to add drama to the climax moment

[@mickybister3868]

Fantastique and funny as well! 😃

[@bobcalderon2534]

Thanks for showing all these videos, thanks 😊

[@marcdraco2189]

The in-jokes always make me smile.

[@jerelmani]

I'm loving these new docos

[@PearTreePal1972]

Brilliantly put together. Very well done! Thank you.

[@andywilliams7323]

Despite watching City of Fire countless times. I'd never noticed the panel being removed in TB5 within camera shot. But I'll now always notice it in future. One small detail you overlooked regarding the added 1965 footage is Scot's & Virgil's face mask visors repeatedly changing colour while they're cutting through the doors in the corridor. In the original 1964 footage, their mask visors have a blue tint, but in the added 1965 footage, their visors are fully transparent without any blue tint, matching how they look in the extra 1965 footage of them testing the gas at the base on Tracy Island.

[@century21films28]

Not overlooked, so much as we weren’t convinced it definitely signalled a time difference. Continuity errors happen in episodes where reshoots didn’t occur. We always try to look for two pieces of evidence to convince us, unless the first bit is concrete. But, on reflection, we should have mentioned it… We’re only human though and there’s a lot to consider… :)

[@willowsalix-author]

Excuse me! My boy would never sleep through an emergency call! You take that back!

[@ACtheLegend]

Always the way isn't it? Never let truth get in the way of a good story.

[@willowsalix-author]

@@ACtheLegend I'm queen of John defence!

[@ACtheLegend]

​@@willowsalix-author though we both know he needs no defence. Anyone with half a brain knows he could run IR single-handed.

[@alanclarke4646]

​@@ACtheLegendhe'd have been SO jealous of all the people working from home during the pandemic!😂😂😂

[@ACtheLegend]

​@@alanclarke4646 he works from home every other month so its all good!

[@idontlikeitproductions3509]

I think City of Fire is the best executed outing of the Mole. In Pit, with the difficulties of getting it out of the pod to start with, the rather clumsy way it burrows in the ground and how it just pops out of the soil inside the pit looks kinda goofy. And in Duchess it being shown to emerge into the basement which is WAAAAY too large for the scale of the vehicle. City of Fire really made the Mole look big and powerful, the initial burrowing is slow and laborious but nonetheless relentless, and when it emerges in the corridor, the image of it cracking open the concrete floor and the pieces of concrete getting flung by the drill really gives a sense of the power of the machine.

[@minicle426]

Also looks great all dirtied up and surrounded in flame.

[@geoffpattern5088]

Very funny - great show - not bothered about dating details - please carry on 😊

[@Alfalfa104]

Excellent stuff 😊

[@HeathcliffBlair]

Good stuff. Victor Lewis Smith lives! 😉

[@Nigelrudyardmusic]

Wonderful stuff.

[@Lumibear.]

Well that was both interesting and laugh out loud funny, the annoying family thing was an amuse bouche for the refugees joke that finally broke me, thanks so much!

[@Dougurasufilm]

Hahaha, you guys are getting pretty cheeky! This one was very interesting! What got me at the final joke was absolutely the cue you guys used, almost painful XD Well done!

[@smithpm81]

WOW dont forget the fruit gums mum! not heard that since I was 5 years old

[@davidjones4291]

Good grief you’ve shattered my boyhood dreams

[@HappyDude1]

I enjoy pointing out the little mistakes that break the 4th wall 😁 i also found a few in later episodes i'm curious if you will find them

[@LanchburyConsultingLLC]

Great video. So informative and also very funny. 🙂

[@tomwolstenholme251]

The plot point of the oxyacetalene torches causing them to pass out was always one of the things I remembered most from this episode. Its definitely one of the best examples of the padding material they created to boost the runtime of the 25 minute scripts. It adds tension and increases the stakes for the characters without being nearly as harrowing and unpleasant as what they came up with for Pit of Peril. The beat of having the two controllers think they've perished is a very nice addition too as it gives it a good emotional climax. It doesn't really boost the running time, maybe it was just an improvement they thought of later in 1965. It's interesting that the Firefly was only added as filler material since it went on to be one of the most recognizable pod vehicles. It appears in the padding sequence at the start of Terror in New York too, assuming that was also written as a half-hour episode. Do we have any evidence of exactly when the vehicle was designed and built? Was it one of Derek Meddings designs or was it maybe Mike Trim? It would be interesting if the concept of the Firefly was a direct result of the instruction to boost the episodes lengths to one hour. These videos are outstanding, keep up the good work! (is there a reason the deep dives for Pit of Peril and Vault of Death aren't available? They don't appear to be on KZbin)

[@clivestuarteardley6049]

My second favourite episode

[@ARWest-bp4yb]

I'm totally lost!😵

[@WOFFY-qc9te]

I am very confused but appreciate your thorough research I cant see how I missed all this when I was seven or was it six, you do know that film continuity editors hate you. Congratulations on the discovery of TB film stock we look forward to a new feature film from Century 21 Films.

[@lukegreen5341]

13:31 Virgil Tracy From Gerry Anderson's Thunderbirds The Original Series Thinks It's A Bit Like Indiana Jones From Indiana Jones And The Temple Of Doom AKA Han Solo From STAR WARS Episode IV A New Hope. Thanks A Lot Century 21 Films Buddy Amigo Dude Mate. XXxxx 🇬🇧 🇦🇺 🇺🇸

[@thisiszaphod]

16:42 - The Mole must have left nasty damage to its pod on leaving ....

[@retepsnikrep]

Who is the sarcastic bastard behind the narration, it's great...

[@Tardistravels-d5b]

i never noticed the bloopers until now....lol. There is one in one episode where the hand of the puppet operator is in shot.

[@smorris12]

If you're going to start finding reality intruding in Thunderbirds (love the G clamp!), one of the "space" shots in the credits (earth or TB3, I forget) seems to be pointing up into a dark corner of the studio!

[@class87fan54]

Interesting to see how the episode was expanded. Looking back at the episode, it is now clear that the Firefly sequence was extra material, as Jeff says nothing about the machine being needed when he sends Virgil off in Thunderbird 2, and the Firefly's cab interior looks completely different to how it appeared in Terror in New York City, which was likely filmed first. Regarding the door cutting sequence, some shots do look to have been re-filmed for the extended episode, as Scott and Virgil's visors have a blue tint in some shots, but are clear in others. It seems that the shots with the blue visors are from the original 1964 shoot, as all of the shots with clear visors are when they're talking about the gas.

[@century21films28]

@@class87fan54 Yes, that is possible (and maybe the narration should have made this clear). We just weren’t overly convinced by necessarily extra footage when there is no pressing sync reason for it. Unless they increased the number of doors to cut through. Stuff like costumes / set things change in episodes where there is no expansion issue. But we should have made that clear.

[@century21films28]

Actually, on re-examination of this scene it’s probably worth clarifying that point. We had another theory, but now the video is out we’re not so sure… we’ll add a clarification on the next video… Thanks for bringing it up.

[@class87fan54]

@@century21films28 Incidentally, the added material for this episode appears to have been filmed at the same time as The Man from MI.5 and Cry Wolf were being filmed, as evidenced by that behind-the-scenes reel, which shows scenes from all three episodes being filmed. Another giveaway is that one of the fire tenders from this episode can be seen on Tracy Island in Cry Wolf.

[@jameswhitaker12]

Interesting to see the difference between merely extending/redubbing scenes v shooting entirely new openings as seen in Vault of Death. So glad I'm not the only one to find that family the most irritating

[@willowsalix-author]

The first episode where I became convinced that Brains is a psychopath that is trying to off the Tracy boys to collect the inheritance. Why did he even put the dangerous cutting gas in the pod when it wasn't properly tested and had literally knocked the boys out. It all adds up to murderous intent to me lol

[@ACtheLegend]

Shame about all the jibes about the Carters, but the rest was cool. Yes Brains really ought to have been locked up.

[@idontlikeitproductions3509]

The dedication of your hatred towards the Carter family is admirable. One thing I notice about this episode is how different the Mole’s emergence from the pod differs from Pit of Peril. In Pit, they’ve bent the sides of the platform the drill sits on outwards to lower the overall height of the vehicle, and even then it can barely squeeze out of the pod door and down the ramp. In City, the pod and its door are significantly larger and the Mole at full height just rolls out with barely a hiccup and much more satisfying engine sound for such a large vehicle. I’d really like to know when they changed the size of the pod door because it does change, as does its relative size to the pod.

[@century21films28]

@@idontlikeitproductions3509 It’s the same size in that film strip from the 1964 City of Fire though - which we only found yesterday afternoon so just managed to squeeze in.

[@idontlikeitproductions3509]

@@century21films28From the looks of it, it seems that early on, the pod’s interior wasn’t set dressed for the external shots of vehicles emerging, they just emerged from the dark interior. It seems that the size change coincided with the addition of interior detail for the external shots. I almost wonder if the difficulty with the size of the Mole prop in Pit contributed to enlarging the pod set in later eps.

[@phaasch]

In "Pit", The Mole literally fetches up on the top of the pod door, which sends it twanging out onto the ramp. Would have been expensive in real life.

[@idontlikeitproductions3509]

@@phaasch Jeff: What were you thinking Scott? You were told not to hit the door on the way out! Brains: I-it’ll buff out, M-Mr. Tracy.

[@TaylorZanderFrancis]

I heard Matt Zimmerman once say he started voicing characters on Thunderbirds from Sun Probe onward, so it could be that Ray Barrett was the original voice for the controller before they had Zommerman dub over him when it was expanded, and just forgot one line. It kinda ties in with Pit of Peril too, as the voices Zimmerman did were of characters presumably when the episodes were expanded.

[@century21films28]

@@TaylorZanderFrancis No it definitely isn’t that, because that scene is not in the half hour episode. And it would be insane to redub an entire character. This is a business after all and every change costs money. Sun Probe was likely recorded the same day, so he would be right.

[@century21films28]

Characters changing voices happens elsewhere in the show, and in other series too. It’s more likely to be a mistake at the recording session.

[@ACtheLegend]

I once heard someone try to ask Matt about this during a convention panel. Matt misunderstood the question and replied that he, Ray and David would usually carve up the lions share of the guest roles. The guy tried again and I started shaking my head slowly at him as if to say "Dude, Matt's not going to have a damn clue what you're on about." Needless to say, he didn't shed any light on things lol

[@twigwonderkid]

😂 I just came across this as suggested by KZbin I was in primary school when this was broadcast so loved it more for the explosions and space craft. I hated the alligator one at the time, but can’t quite remember why. I absolutely loved your narrative and giggled away, I thought that was so well done, so thanks. Also great and informative for a retire wondering what to watch. Really enjoyed this to see how they added 30 mins. Oh also, my memory was of them on before tea time, was surprised to see it shown at 7 ! So was 7 a sort of kids slot with adults joining at 8 ?

[@cedarcam]

I know the time varied between regions, and sure when I fist saw it it was on before the news at 6 and part two after the news.

[@TroyUlysses]

The more I watched these the more I'm desperate to see a version of the episodes that were originally 25mins.

[@century21films28]

@@TroyUlysses Vault of Death is probably the one you could most reliably revert back to 25 minutes.

[@TroyUlysses]

@century21films28 Are you saying between the recovered footage and existing footage that a version of the series with 25min episodes, still isn't possible?

[@COBO2]

We was supposed to get a full TB2 launch in city of fire oh how disappointing that we didn’t get one.

[@Miru_Man]

I can't believe we would have no firefly if it wasn't for the longer episodes! Do you know which was firely footage was shot first out of terror in new york city and city of fire?

[@zwolleinfo8032]

Great! If this episode already has 10K views in 1 day, then I can't imagine that Century 21 Films isn't already working on a completely new series of episodes. Who has the rights to the program these days?

[@Dancrazyman1]

❤❤❤ best 1

[@campacolasworkshop6042]

I thought I was being too critical in the 1960's, as a child with "the most annoying family in the world" 😅 However, this episode no doubt contributed to the general destruction of my toys & my brothers toys by my fascination with creating fire & explosions (chemistry set & fireworks & any combustable fluid) 😮

[@christineburns5246]

All this chaos caused by Lew Grade.

[@crazyjedi5994]

22:03 I’ve never seen that behind the scenes video before. Is it available to watch anywhere?

[@dunebasher1971]

So who else has been sad enough to slow down the phone voice to see what it says?

[@scopex2749]

I grew up with Gerry Andersons productions under 'Century 21'. This was GROUNDBREAKING entertainment for a small boy in the 1960's. Now i finally see how they produced these amazing programmes was so much work. I am however, heartbroken - as I only discovered TOO LATE that the studios, ( near to me in Slough) had been bombed out of existance! I was literally only about 5 miles from the studios. However, I visited that particular industrial estate MANY times, as an adult working nearby and doing a temp delivery job. I dId actually pass by the studios several times not realising Iwas on HALLOWED TURF! I recall the old 1960 ish buildings but never got the chance to visit the studios whilst they survived. So many people knock these films and laugh at the production - trust me - back in the 60's we had mainly BLACK AND WHITE TV............watching boring BBC RUBBISH period dramas and news programs OR we had TECHNICOLOR WITH THUNDERBIRDS SO.....................leave Gerrys beautiful work alone - ( but I do chuckle at your crazy commentaries at times at the 'outtakes' included in the broadcast episode) Jolly Good Show!😭

[@johnHAMMOND-l3u]

thank you i did enjoy watching that i wonder if the film towering inferno got it idea from city of fire makes you think

[@retepsnikrep]

Top Nerding...

[@morgandude2]

It's one of those episodes that I rarely watch......it's almost painful.😖

[@TheBlackEventorizon]

Ah, Thunderbirds - Glamorising Pyromania since 1964

[@RadioJammor]

"... inexplicably decide that they need to be saved" Ahem, thank you for your interest in Thunderbirds, but I think we'll stick with John Tracy up in Thunderbird 5. 😆

[@MediaArchive2-z9f]

Is it true the episode was banned by the BBC and ITV in 2001/02 due to 9/11? I recall hearing it was as in the early 2000s BBC 2 repeated the series.

[@ACtheLegend]

It wasn't banned, but it aired later in the run, same thing with Winged Assassin in the Captain Scarlet run.

[@MediaArchive2-z9f]

@@ACtheLegend yeah I remember a banned Captain Scarlet episode

[@quizmaster85]

I thought the mother looked more like a _Stingray_ character than a _Thunderbirds_ character.

[@john_smith1471]

@21:35 ‘Tonight’s TV’ 6:35 Crossroads, I wonder what the storyline cliff hanger was in January 1966?

[@vulcanvoyager]

Jeff, always pronounced 'Details as D'tails" still annoys me to this day.

[@hafstrat]

❤

[@Rapseflaps]

I've gone through the Century 21 channel four times now and I still can't find the Thunderbirds Unseen episode for Pit of Peril. Am I blind? Can anyone help me? 😬

[@century21films28]

@@Rapseflaps We erroneously stated that The Mole wasn’t in Pit of Peril so it’s been taken away for reediting to make it more accurate.

[@brianfretwell3886]

I would assume the "Shooting off the set" was due to the camera having viewfinder "Safe area" marks that allowed for 1960's telecine underscanning and tvs overscan and would never have been seen on original transmission. A bit like the boom mikes in the Tara King Avengers episodes.

[@century21films28]

@@brianfretwell3886 No - the fire sequence is inside the action safe area.

[@brianfretwell3886]

@@century21films28 But is the edge of the set that you mentioned? And is there a VT transfere (backup) that was made at the time it was originally shown?

[@century21films28]

@@brianfretwell3886 They almost certainly were shown off film, so it would depend on the telecine operator. The wall of TB5 possibly wasn’t visible but the fire scene must always have been visible (maybe not in b/w but that’s a different matter). Also remember the early video assist gave a very dodgy idea about where the framing was.

[@andrewofford1533]

Did Hollywood pinch the Idea of City of Fire, for The Towering Inferno?

[@substandardabuse6028]

23:05 "Oh the Humanity""

[@sjcuk7]

@century21films28 Several times during this edition the narrator tells us about the "previous" episode which discussed Pit of Peril, EXCEPT the previous episode DIDN'T do that it features The Making of "Perils of Penelope" and "Terror in New York City". So what happened to The Pit of Peril Unseen Thunderbirds? So far out of three episodes it hasn't featured, despite being promoted ahead and mentioned looking back.

[@century21films28]

There are six installments so far of Thunderbirds Unseen. The Pit episode was available for a month, but has been temporarily withdrawn for reediting as we now realise a section of it is wrong. Although there is a lot of guesswork involved, we want the series to be accurate where possible.

[@sundaysearchers811]

"Use the brake honey!" 😂 Jokes about female drives after this one aired didn't go down well in our family.

[@Heavy-Metal-Spike]

I'll admit that I used that line for YEARS 🤣

[@taternater83]

I just want to know how those people survived that wreck, if their body's went flying out of that car and two seconds later they are perfectly fine.