CERAMIC COATING TEST (Slickness & Hydrophobic's) Cerakote | Clean | C6

[@diydetailofficial]

Thanks for the follow up.

[@imjoshv]

You bet

[@diydetailofficial]

@@imjoshvI know how much time and effort goes into this.

[@miscellaneous5215]

Thanks for the no hype review. Appreciate it. I'd probably go with USA Cerakote here.

[@imjoshv]

Hard to beat that value! But it will be interesting to see how long each of these holds up

[@gtileo]

Cerakote looks the most impressive, especially for the price. Obviously C6 is the best but Cerakote holds its own and looks to be superior to Clean by Scam, and it's 30% of the cost. I guess time will tell on the durability but I'd give my money to Cerakote

[@FantasticDetailing]

I used the updated version, and it's impressive.

[@gtileo]

@FantasticDetailing I'm curious how it would hold up to road salts that we get here in Canada, after this video I'm seriously considering getting a kit

[@SNieX0]

Clean by Scam - lol

[@dtna]

I wonder if Cerekote blends the Ceramic Coating for the other brands.

[@sheepstardetail]

@@gtileo I have a real world test going with both V1 and V2 of Cerakote. 2 month update should be coming shortly.

[@willsridecare]

Super cool to use the digital meter to measure surface tension to get objective numbers! thanks Josh!

[@imjoshv]

You bet!

[@sheepstardetail]

For slickness testing, you should only measure peak until the sled moves, not over a long stretch. You're measuring just how much force it takes to move the sled, pulling any longer can introduce additional peaks.

[@imjoshv]

I didnt think about that.. The problem is that since these are so slick, it take a bit to get them to register on the gauge. Ill try that next time though!

[@sheepstardetail]

@ a valid effort and far better than “it feels good”. Appreciate the test so far, looking forward to updates!

[@SamuraiDetailingLLC-007]

These are always great reviews! I believe the Cerakote has the best value in these initial tests. I have not personally tried the other 2 products yet but if price is a consideration, Cerakote seems to come out on top as of now.

[@Wes23Sut]

Josh out here getting chemist fired

[@nicholasborrelli7544]

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[@imjoshv]

haha no way, they test the right way im sure.. Im just doing my own test as a detailer

[@TheMobileDetailShop1296]

And the winner is armor detail supply

[@cleanlife1305]

Josh for president !!!

[@imjoshv]

haha thats a rough job

[@beijingbiden5931]

@imjoshv do you honestly think Gavin Newsome is a good governor?

[@cleanlife1305]

You’ll have to wear a suit and tie. But you can still wear your baseball cap with it….backwards of course!

[@imjoshv]

No I don’t… I’m not a fan

[@imjoshv]

👍👍

[@2atya]

Wow for the price Cerekote is a no brainer for average consumer who would pay 10x as much for very similar performance

[@imjoshv]

Yeah the price is hard to beat!

[@onecoldgamer6022]

Wow!!! Great Test!! Thank You Josh!!! I have C6 Hydro Lite on my car and I love it!!!

[@imjoshv]

Right on!

[@diydetailofficial]

Thank you.

[@DavesaysHi]

Do you have a review of windshield coatings?

[@BXGreen_DrivewayDetails]

I love the resistance test cool! Thanks for the follow up! I love watching this stuff.

[@imjoshv]

Thanks for watching!

[@adamrusch7112]

Great video, I'd like to see Pan's vs Armour Detail Quartz more comparable C6 just too expensive with other great options out there.

[@imjoshv]

Yah Pans 8 year may be a better comparison to C6 but even thats still half the price in comparison

[@MyGuyKirby]

After the towel dry it is possible to have some moisture still present within the clear coat and coating valleys.

[@imjoshv]

Yep i agree, that may have been a factor.

[@williampinchbeck4321]

Great video it will be interesting to see how they are in a month!! Thanks Josh!!

[@imjoshv]

I agree! 1 month, 6 months, 1 year, etc... It would be interesting to see which one fails first

[@CyberSkunk90]

A good comparison to the cerakote would be the Griots 3-1 ceramic wax spray. I did 2 applications on my car after clay bar, compound and polish, and that stuff is still holding strong after 2 years.. The Griots is some really good stuff if applied correctly and a much more affordable option coming in at $25

[@imjoshv]

Wow that’s impressive, typically the spray style isn’t as long lasting as the little bottles. I’ll check it out thanks

[@CyberSkunk90]

@imjoshv I've applied it other cars (withstanding a clay bar compound and polish) and it barley holds up after a month. So it's all about proper application it seems. And doing multiple coats over a 48hr period. Supposed to let each coat sit for 12 hours before applying a second

[@waelabdelazim8459]

Great effort … thank you very much.

[@andyr810]

Hey Josh, love these informative videos!

[@andyr810]

Super impressed with Pans ceramics! For that part that you didn't get the ceramic coating on [the driver side of the door I believe it was] Would you just apply some in that spot very quickly, or would you repolish that area and then apply? Thanks!

[@imjoshv]

Glad to hear it!

[@imjoshv]

I would just add and monitor. If it doesnt seem to be holding up, i would polish it off and reapply!

[@francoisgibeault8740]

Have you ever tried Ethos Max graphene coating? supposed to be ultra resistant

[@imjoshv]

I have not... Ill try and check it out

[@bigd9848]

I always use Adams Advanced Graphene and Blue Collar By Apex Detail. I used others the C6 looks great and this is a great video comparison.Thanks 👊🏼💎

[@imjoshv]

Thanks for sharing! The adams graphene is great! I havent used the Apex Product yet

[@abramians1]

Great follow up! Thank you!

[@imjoshv]

You bet!

[@mjrhavok3929]

I think you have to be very careful with he strain gauge to use the same initial force/speed when you start your pull. If you start one harder or quicker you could cause a higher peak reading.

[@krjohnson29]

What Im seeing in this and other tests Ive seen online is that there isn't a huge difference between the different coatings. Seems the biggest differentiator is ease of installation 🤷

[@imjoshv]

Thats partially true. There are so many great coatings now that we are splitting hairs on the differences. So for me ease of application is one of the big deciding factors!

[@bigredwag]

All great info. But can you objectively articulate any visual differences? Is one deeper, warmer, glassier, wetter looking than others?

[@imjoshv]

Honestly no, most of the gloss and clarity is from the paint correction and polishing. All of these were prepped the same way and they all look very similar after the ceramic application

[@elvispjetrovic]

Hey is it possible that numbers changed after the contact wash because of the way you sort of yanked it upwards ? Seems to be on your first test you slowly and gradually brang it upwards vs the last test. Correct me if I’m wrong.

[@Special.Purpose.Weapon]

He definitely pulled faster on the second test.

[@imjoshv]

Yeah definitely could be. Again there are more varibales so its not a bullet proof test, but i tried to do the same pull technic on each of the 3 passes so they would atleast be fair between the 3.

[@elvispjetrovic]

What’s fair is fair then. Great test and I just received my first coating from pan and can’t wait to try it.

[@o0Hotiron0o]

Thank you Josh

[@imjoshv]

Very welcome

[@calvertschmued2920]

I really want the cerakote to perform well considering the price, I hate how they don’t give durability ratings in years though

[@imjoshv]

I understand that, but the amount of variables does make that hard to give. If the vehicle is garage kept and driven 200 miles a month and properly cared for the coating will probably last 10 years, but they dont want to say that because if a car is parked outside in harsh conditions and never washed it could fail within a year. All coatings are that way so I appreciate that they dont include that. Its almost just seems like marketing to list years in some cases. C6 is a year or 2 old or so and its rated for 6 years. Clean just launched ands its rated for 3 years...

[@g0ldslug]

Off the topic of the video, but have you ever considered trying dual pressure washer setups, namely with the $99 Ryobi and the Active 2.0?

[@johnhopkins7614]

Very thorough job, Hand pull force gauge test is a good guide but results cannot be conclusive.

[@imjoshv]

Yep I totally agree, lots of variables to consider with that.

[@Special.Purpose.Weapon]

Just from the vid, it seems like Pans didn't perform as well as the others visually. As you said, it's splitting hairs though.

[@imjoshv]

The initial slickness wasn’t quite as high but it had the least amount of change after the wash wish is very encouraging! And it also felt the slickest under the wash mitt. I’m not sure what would explain that but it could feel a difference

[@Eric-vy7sz]

@@imjoshvCan you do a carpro quartz hydrophobic against pans ?

[@imjoshv]

I can look into it! Frim past experiences, i would personally go with some other coatings over the Cquartz line up from CarPro. I really like the Gtechnic Crystal Serum Light

[@2atya]

After seeing how difficult it was to apply the other two coatings, Cerekote was a breeze for me to apply. Why would I make it more difficult when there’s very similar performance and drastic difference in price?

[@imjoshv]

Yep thats fair and the Cerakote is super easy to apply. Longevity is the question here and we will see how they perform. I dont mind that Cerakote doesnt give a year rating, when performance is great so far!

[@ssjcajas]

Hey Josh I see you have the BigBoi short gun. How do you like it and how does it compare to the others i.e. McKillians, MTM and such? I was looking to get it for that fact that its green and was wanting your opinion on it since I don't remember you doing a review on it.

[@ExodusFX]

The force gauge makes for a nice show, but this is hardly a scientific test that can be trusted. Too many variables not being held constant. (different body contours, force angles, speed, etc) All of the coatings do look to be performing well though, so everyone using them should be happy.

[@imjoshv]

Yea i agree. Better than me just saying one feels slicker than the other, but there are more variables to take in to account

[@gtileo]

I think the speed was a big one, giving it a quick yank will make for a higher peak force

[@petercuranaj7565]

$60 Bucks for Cerakote right now. not bad, seems cheap?

[@c.c.5472]

Hey Josh, would a gloss meter help with this test?

[@imjoshv]

It potentially could but from my experience with gloss meters they can get different ratings just a few inches apart so i dont like to rely on them. I may include one in an update video though if you want to see that

[@jefferrrson1x]

Awe Man I got Clean by Pan 3 year so hopefully it works out well for this video 😭😭😭 After watching: I feel good about installing Pans now. They are all pretty legit. C6 at $300 is no different at one week post application. The real test is at 3-6 months really. Question, did you notice the APP have any effect on the performance of the three coatings vs the Panel Prep only?

[@imjoshv]

So far so good! The initial slickness wasn’t as high but it was the least affected by the end of the video and also felt the slickest during the wash process!

[@colinbeckstrand2612]

All the hydorphobics are good. The "slickness" test was kinda whatever in my opinion. He said that Clean felt slick while washing which is the most important. It should treat you well. Most Ceramic options these days are really good. Like Josh said, we are "splitting hairs" here.

[@imjoshv]

Totally agree!

[@cebasmb8250]

How come pan's not on this channel commenting 🤔 he's always on everyone else videos

[@PRSNMKE]

Those other guys are in his cult that's why

[@cebasmb8250]

@PRSNMKE ypu bet lol 😆

[@JPCMOOSE]

What aboat the gloss? Which has better gloss and reflection?

[@imjoshv]

They all look about the same. Gloss is mostly from the correction of the paint to increase it visibly. Coatings can help slightly but this vehicle was prepped all the same way and I dont really notice a difference atleast right now. Ill mention that in update videos!

[@noehfuentes6284]

Super ama - Aurrera

[@thollenbeck]

Great video. Could the mf be picking up some dust and causing the surface tension increase in newton meters? Maybe use a clean towel for each section of the panel being tested. I'm no expert in surface tension, just my SWAG.

[@imjoshv]

Thats possible.. The surface was clean, but small bits of dust could potentially cause some changes

[@skullz4322]

Bro you are so W👌🔥

[@imjoshv]

Does that mean whack haha?

[@skullz4322]

@ that means like great! You have helped me improve my car detailing skills in your videos I also go to harbor freight a lot now 🙏🔥

[@johnlei9821]

What is the power washer gun you are using?

[@adamstrachn]

I think it's Big Boi brand

[@imjoshv]

It is from BigBoi and came with the pressure washer

[@android-jp3kn]

And the winner iiiiiss...one and only truly amazing Clean by PTO🎉...the best product in the world from the best advertiser in the world...and if anybody say something diferent its probably just best troll or hater in the world😂

[@RichardMJr]

couple of things I would like to see. Stop pulling that gauge so hard and fast. Start slow and barely move it to see where it breaks at and then stop feeling the coatings with your finger tips, use the back of the fingers. Obviously clean hands.

[@imjoshv]

👍👍 for the fingers you are right about the backs, but for me I feel like I have a better gauge with the finger tips since that’s how I’ve always done it

[@1stfrompuertorico568]

Nice

[@imjoshv]

Thanks

[@Katrin-d6m]

Your videos are a real treat! They are always informative and well edited.🎬🐘🚴

[@Wanessa-j5l]

Thank you for your attention to detail and high quality. Your videos are always impressive.💿🐍🏠

[@imjoshv]

Thanks!

[@Eric-fz7on]

The theory is that, the slicker the coating the worse the durability.

[@imjoshv]

I dont think ive ever heard that before.. I have heard that a coating may adhere to a panel that is not 100% perfect a bit better though. Just like painting metal how you want to scuff the surface to get the paint to hold

[@derek9319]

You pulled down on the 1st pass and pulled towards the window on the 2nd pass

[@haikuancheoh2418]

All things equal, the one with best value must take the biscuit, to be objective. Don’t u think? Cerakote took this round.

[@SophiaodC]

Your channel is a place where every video is a true work of art. Thank you for your dedication and passion for creativity!🛫🦅😂

[@majbach1968]

Who ever thought that keeping a car looking new could be so complicated? Before I bought any ceramic coatings (well over a year ago) I watched a lot of reviews by Pan. I eventually lost interest because it took him forever to arrive at a conclusion or recommendation and when he did, it was based on trivial factors. Plus, the facility and equipment he has and the money he spends on products just doesn't align with the everyday consumer. The differences between how the product is applied probably is more of a factor on the result than the product itself. I like your down-to-earth presentation, your enthusiasm and the DIY'er guy next door appeal. But what the hell difference does how much resistance a coating provides on a cloth pulled across it? I think you should stop the BS scientific testing and return to the basics: How does it look? How long does it last? How well does it protect my paint or clearcoat from dirt and scratches? I've tried the Ceracoat, the CQuartz, Armour Shield, Turtle Wax Hybrid solutions on three motorcycles (black and red) and used it as directed on plastic, rims, exhaust and painted metal and also a brand new black car. There's always a noticeable before and after improvement but no more than I used to get with a good wax. The extra thick CK did nothing for the rims or exhaust pipes insofar as keeping them shiny, water beading or easier tot wash the dirt off. I ruined some of the plastic paneling with the Ceracoat pads (no one mentioned how after a few weeks it develops a glazed donut appearance). I also noticed that on the black surfaces, the water beading left really bad water spots that could only be removed with a fine polish. Sure, I chamois after washing like the next guy but when your car is in a parking lot and it rains and the dust and pollen collect on the beaded water, not much you can do. In these instances, I found it wasn't worth the elbow grease and time to put any of these coating on except for the inexpensive Turtle Wax hydrid solutions. At the end of the day, we just want to see the water bead and this stuff works as good as any of the other high price stuff. I stopped with ceramic routine not long after that. Then one day I saw a black pick up truck that was at least 5 years old drive by me and I could practically count my eyelashes in my reflection. But more than that, it was how rich the black paint looked. I followed him until he parked and asked his secret. He said he had it professionally done 2 years ago. So I went to the same place, forked over a ridiculous amount of money for the clay bar and color correction process and then they applied ceramic. Two years later, the water beads nicely on the vertical surfaces but not so much on the horizontal surfaces - which see a lot more sun. But the paint still looks near new so in that regard, I am happy. But, I wouldn't pay that amount to do it on my next new car, I'd just spray the insta-ceramic stuff and buff off after I'm done a hand wash. I think the results are the same. I've purchased several items from water cannon to soap to micro fibre cloths based on your recommendations and I am happy with all. But I'd really like to see you start reviewing ceramic coatings based on real world application practises, get the car dirty and do a normal car wash and see if any wash easier then come back in 3 and 6 months and a year and see how well the coatings still do. See if scratches hand buff out any easier from one to the other. And most importantly - how it looks! Not under a spectrometer or some Digital Reflectance Meter - that none of us own - but to the naked eye. Those are the realistic parameters that makes product reviews worth watching. BTW, I seriously didn't intend to write such a tome. I'm waiting for it to cloud over so I can wash my car.

[@curtisrichard6252]

The longer you watch a video the more money they pocket because they are also paid for watch hours. This is why many KZbinrs tell you “ stay tuned until the end for the conclusions”.

[@Chancy454SS]

Will we ever see 3,5,8 yrs review anywhere on any of these channels?????????????????????????

[@imjoshv]

Ha I know right. I’m gonna do 1 month 6 month 1 year and then we will see…

[@asaholey]

All of it is the same garbage made by the same company. Any added slickness is just a bonus. True innovation would be a product you apply to your car’s paint and forget about-no need for maintenance, no dirt buildup, and no bug splatter.

[@paulreichelt1259]

That's just dumb

[@davidm6256]

1st United States of America

[@imjoshv]

Nice

[@kevinadkins8469]

1st

[@imjoshv]

Nice!