Ceramic Coating Your Car? EXPOSING THE SCAM!

[@MrDominicharrison]

Ceramic coatings are not the scam Electric cars are a scam

[@lv4077]

It’s kinda hard to believe anything an EV owner says

[@roytyler8534]

Dealership paint and interior protection are a waste of your money (and I’ve worked in Dealerships for 35yrs) the car is not correctly prepared and is normally applied by someone that has little or no clue. A correct ceramic coating with cost £800 - £1500 depending on the amount of preparation required. Why do it any? ….. paint for many years has been water based, rather than the older oil based paints. Better for the environment, however not a durable. However you need to wash your car correctly and not take it to your local car wash. If you do you just wasted hundreds of pounds, as after a few washes (chemicals used) you have no protection.

[@justindale1365]

@@roytyler8534 yep 💯 percent right. New cars to Australia are on ships then the back of trucks and alot of idiots over here think a car wash then they are ready for coatings fmd . I've had to buff out marks brand new and if you run a torch across brand you new bikes still in crates they have swirl marks all through them. Thank you Thailand for making Harley's.

[@tittumsmcsprinkles9020]

I would have worded that differently. It sounds like ALL ceramic coating is a scam but in reality it's just dealers being dealers and upcharging EVERYTHING.

[@seventeen9718]

@@tittumsmcsprinkles9020 He knows, it was clickbait; and it worked.

[@DjNikGnashers]

As somebody who actually worked in dealerships for many years, and am also an ex-valeter and hobby detailer, I think I have enough experience to give a credible opinion. Trade quality ceramic coating products are better (longer lasting) than consumer quality. Dealerships charge you over & above the actual realistic cost of ANYTHING. The main upsells on new cars are mats, and you can always get the same quality as OE mats, from an OEM product, for half the price. Ceramic coatings are the same, you can buy trade quality ceramic coating products for half the price of dealership offerings, and it will be exactly the same quality. It's not a 'scam', as such, you are paying for a product that will be applied at the dealership, so it's convenience, rather than having to take it somewhere else. Also, this valeter talking about how easy it is to prep a new car for ceramic coatings, lol. If you could see the absolute state of some brand new cars that get delivered to dealerships, they do not arrive super shiny and perfect. Most of them have been sat at the docks for months, (just using Hyundai as an example as I worked for 4 years there), covered in birdshit, covered in jet fuel as the docks are under a flight path, and often covered in minor swirls from dust. The prep needed is hard work. The dock workers often use 1 car as a taxi, to transport 3 others up/down the dock to fetch cars all day, so 1 in 4 cars is usually muddy as hell inside, and the paint even more abused. A used car is often a lot cleaner and easier to prep, if the owner has kept the car clean constantly. And, no ceramic coating is perfect, many owners get their car ceramic coated then take it to the Eastern European hand car wash once a month, where it is covered in strong caustic TFR, and that eats away at the ceramic, causing it to be eroded a lot faster. Learn to wash and detail your car properly, yourself, and that will save you money and get you the best results. A good quality wax, can last 8-10 months, something like Fusso Coat Soft99, and is only £30 ish for a tub, and that will last you 5 years. That will be just as good in almost every way as a ceramic coat, and actually look shinier, and bead water better. One last point, you are trusting this valeter, who thinks the modern water-based paint is soft and as such the paintwork needs ceramic coating, to sell his OWN service and product (Diamond Brite is not a great product). Does this melon not understand that there is a solvent based CLEAR COAT on top of the paint, which is much harder, and that is where all of the swirls are sat in.

[@markscott4265]

Wow, you know your stuff, thanks for the heads up.👍

[@shanafehr]

I highly appreciate your comment and your insight. I can actually concur wight he Hyundai remark, in fact my brand new Tucson had water marks/stains and had to return it to the dealership for them to get that fix nd they did. Afterwards, seeing the damage water does I decided to get ceramic coating for it and somehow I don't feel satisfied, supposedly I cannot get scuffs nor scratches off my car without removing or damaging the ceramic coating and it's basically the service provider telling me I need to get professional work, to actually paint the scratches and then do the ceramic coating again and... I feel like it's bs, there must be products that could use to get those removed or at least reduced without having to paint and whatnot.

[@williamfrench9973]

In fairness, I think he was talking about how easy it is to prep a new car as delivered to the consumer - not as it was delivered to the dealership. If the dealer is any good - it will be delivered to the consumer in nearly ready to coat condition.

[@GT380man]

As a keen amateur who is obsessive about my vintage motorcycles but less so about a car which lives outside, I knew that the two part clearcoat is the hard, shiny surface you see. Lots of colour coats are actually matte when sprayed out of the gun and the clear imparts all the gloss. Yes, the colour may well be water based to reduce organic solvent effluent that the manufacturer has to cope with (else our water courses get it) so that clear is utterly vital.

[@kevinwhite8836]

Exactly, I have had some shocking cars delivered new (one had actually been rear ended, and the delivery guy was kind of like, yeah it happens, give it a polish and it should be ok - you could see the plastic of the bumper and zero paint🤦). The worst one I ever had though was an early Model 3. That had damage everywhere (wheels, bodywork, interior). In the end I took a chalk marker to it so their bodyshop could fix it all, there were even parts unpainted. I also took a paint depth meter to it and right at the bottom of both front wings, there was hardly any paint at all. It was about a third of the recommended depth. The later Model 3's were much better though, once they started coming out of China.

[@whitegoodman7465]

Anything dealer installed is a scam..there "ceramic coatings" are useless spray wax or spray sealants. They are not coatings, they will last a few weeks max and dealers know nothing about coatings or detailing in general, they have fckd up far more cars then they helped. They also outright lie to customers saying it protects it from uv damage and scratches, blah blah blah..stay far away from stealerships if you want any quality work done.

[@ANGRY-VELO]

Some of the comments are quite harsh. I watched the vlog whilst reading some of them and I don’t agree with the constructive ones. You have informed me about something I didn’t know. Water based paints are better for the environment but not for your car. Thanks for the info it’s much appreciated

[@davidadams5116]

I'm a bit old in the tooth and still use turtle wax. Water beads off just like ceramic. Costs about £15. Ok I have to re polish every 3 to 4 months but the bottle I buy does the whole car 3 times.

[@sptrader6316]

Turtle wax sells a ceramic coating for about $15- it's excellent, I use it on my 14' Lexus RX350, shines like glass.

[@ModleskyAutoDetailing]

Hydrophobic qualities are the only similarity between a wax and a ceramic coating. Coatings offer a much higher level of gloss, last much longer and the protection they provide far exceeds that of a wax. If you go through an automatic car wash and the brushes induce minor scratches and swirls it will be in the clear coat with just a wax. Those same scratches and swirls are in the ceramic coating. In addition, you don't get the protection from etching from bug guts,bird bombs and water spots. With that said, a coating will be much more costly so there's a personal preference.

[@whitegoodman7465]

@@sptrader6316 Its not a ceramic coating..it has a little bit of sio2 (silicon dioxide) but it is far from a legit coating.

[@whitegoodman7465]

@@ModleskyAutoDetailing That is the furthest thing from the truth, stop spreading misinformation. When a car gets scratched with a coating, it does not happen to the coating only, that makes zero sense, its literally impossible as a coating is a few microns thick at most. A ceramic coating isnt some invisible shield against scratches or marring. Now PPF is something that will protect against scratches but not a coating. Also, some coatings are worst than wax or sealants with bird bombs or water spots meaning in a few hours that stuff will be etched in the paint regardless what protection you have on the paint, some you can wait a few days and be in the safe zone but eventually that stuff will etch in be it 2 hours or a week.

[@LoremIpsum1970]

Ceramic coating? I only see the true colour of my car every year or two when I wash it... so, this isn't worth the bother for me with a 2008 Ford Focu (the 's' fell off years ago).

[@jjones3057]

Not every car would benefit from a ceramic coating for sure. Many other things to consider including different products, such as sealants and waxes etc.

[@ModleskyAutoDetailing]

Admittedly, everyone is different. I have customers who have newer vehicles they're paying a lot of money for that just want my base paint sealant and then you have a guy who purchased a 2009 Chevy Traverse from a farm for about $3,000 and had me do a 2 step correction and ceramic coating and touch up the paint as well. Not cheap but it looked nearly new when finished.

[@antot1569]

So your here because?????

[@robbie1403]

I’ve had two cars ceramic coated by trusted professional detailers and the gloss of the paint afterwards is fabulous, dirt is much easier to remove when washing and the effect remains for many years without the need for further regular protection like waxing. However it doesn’t protect against bird lime etching which was a major disappointment. The cost of treatment is considerable and my wife and I have both changed our cars in the last three months and have decided not to ceramic coat this time. The cars are washed regularly (not at a car wash) and applying a good quality wax two or three times a year isn’t for us onerous. I do agree that buying ceramic treatment when purchasing a new car at a dealership is to be avoided mainly because the people applying it will usually be untrained and the all important preparation poorly done, if at all. Dealers push this plus other products like GAP insurance, wheel and tyre damage cover etc because the profit margin for them is very high and the sales people will carry a target to sell them.

[@kevinwhite8836]

I had exactly the same with bird lime. It etched a bit like crazy paving. In the end, I had to wet sand it back, compound and polish, which obviously removed all of the ceramic coating, which was supposed to have protected it. Good thing about wax and semi-perm ceramic sprays, is that you can correct any issues and easily reapply a coat to the affected area if you need to. Full ceramic coatings have a much longer cure time and application process.

[@rogergale3297]

As a professional Detailer of 17 years this video isn't entirely correct with all its findings and facts.....no scams when using a reputable company with good ceramics and proper preparation. Even if you did it yourself you are talking 150 quid just for the paintwork ceramics. I've a Range Rover that a client has for over 4 years and the ceramics still beading with no other top ups. Its all in the prep and application. I think DIY detailing is still easy to do yourself to an extent..but remember if you pay a decent company to do a superb job you are paying their labour, premises costs and experience. If you do it yourself then thats all good in my book too.

[@אתהברטון]

Said every detainer ever

[@rogergale3297]

@user-bv3ns9iq5z what's a Detainer anyway? Never heard of that profession....sorry

[@justindale1365]

@@rogergale3297 true words mate 👍

[@justindale1365]

@@אתהברטון most of you flogs can't afford a detail on your shit cars or don't know the value in it. When you trade your car in like an imbecile and you get a few grand less remember a decent detail and selling privately you could get up to 5k more....winner

[@justindale1365]

@@rogergale3297 he's a goose mate probably detaining his pets.

[@christophercroucher280]

It’s not a scam, it’s just an over charge

[@FD-ms2nm]

When they overcharge you by 2,000% it’s a scam

[@bikeman123]

Why would you pay to ceramic coat your leased car?

[@justindale1365]

@@bikeman123 you wouldn't unless your soft in the head. Lease cars are turned over as per the company's fleet contracts.

[@stevo1970]

All new cars use water based paints. The paint is protected by lacquer. Which nowadays protects cars from colour fading, especially red cars which use to fade because there was no lacquer protecting the paint. So when you ceramic coat a car, you are not coating the paint, you are coating the lacquer.

[@philg6613]

Oh dear, once that battery has depeleted some more, the car will be pretty much worthless. Watch other KZbinrs who are in negative equity and even their dealerships won't buy back the cars or part-ex them because they have too many unwanted EVs on their books. Electric vehicles are great for milkfloats and the like, but not for cars. Synthetic fuel should be the go-to technology until something better comes along. It can be used with petrol or diesel or on its own. We just need the mass production and infrastructure to make it viable. Don't buy EVs! They are the real scam.

[@Petrolhead912]

Anything a dealer has to push so hard during a sale is bound to be a scam . Dealers never change

[@gmmooseblaster]

Great to see you're promoting a range of local businesses and not just food places. It's trying times for us all and we all need to rally around the local businesses who offer a good service and don't try to rip us off. Equally, exposing those who try to get away with shabby services and goods, is also needed. Keep up the good work.

[@stevensofroniou]

It is THE biggest rip off of the last decade I fell for this on my BMW M2 Competition and it was advised to me by the dealer almost to the point of being essential and I later found out the dealers salesman get a commission for every car booked in for ceramic coating . When I picked my car up I was happier with my local car wash and had to pay nearly 1,000 euros for detailing my brand new cars paint .

[@daveormerod7426]

Was the guy not scared having your EV in his garage over night in case it caught on fire ?

[@chodkowski01]

My car is 8 years old and all I did was regular wash and wax and the paint still looked new after the 8 years. It didn’t wash off like they make you believe.

[@jasonsmith5688]

So it’s a scam and a rip off when you let the main dealer do it for £1k but it’s not when you pay your one man band mobile valet guy £350?? Or you could clay bar your car, totally decontaminate your paint work yourself. Use Autoglym Magma spray approx £15, maybe some Autoglym Super Resin polish then their Ceramic Spray at approximately £15 and get exactly the same results ?? I’ve just done this myself on my Mercedes AMG 53 GLE , washed it again and applied a second coat this evening and believe me the results are amazing at a fraction of the cost!

[@chrislox1]

I took my MX-5 to valet man after the car wash people at that famous retail park near the M1 in Mansfield scratched it to buggery! He did an excellent job on mine too. Brought it back to showroom condition, he did. Fabulous service, and great recommend from The Master of Macs!

[@TheMacMaster]

He’s spot on! Takes care and pride in his work. :-)

[@philf5043]

I tried the so called Ceramic coating offerings on ebay some years ago . My verdict ...a lod of overpriced crap. I get far better results using Turtle wax Flex Wax , Hybrid ceramic wax or even their wax it wet ! The Flexwax holds up better and on.y use it every few washes . Keeps car looking great with a deep shine and dirt cleans off easily. And car even feels waxy. Any car that is detailed well and then protected with FlexWax or the Hybrid ceram wax fro TW will stay just as good looking at a fraction of the cost. But thats just my opinion.

[@mickscowby8974]

I’m a detailer I don’t use diamond bright and £500 is very expensive I do it a lot cheaper the dealers are rip off as they have 18 year old lads washing cars who have no idea I’d gladly clean your car for free lee and you will see what I can do

[@davidpickard9393]

I always tell the sales person that if the standard paint is so rubbish I don't want the car. 😊

[@Axelfl6161]

It’s the same with GAP insurance it’s easy to beat the dealer price and get a policy that’s transferable.

[@andysuzi1]

Only the base coats are water based the clear coats which give the protection are solvent based

[@richardneale246]

Why would you want to ceramic coat a milk float ?????

[@TheMacMaster]

Lol. 😂

[@rodstawaa]

This isn’t ‘real’ ceramic coating. Neither is the stuff at the dealership’s

[@steventhoseby]

NEVER get a dealer installed coating, it's like asking a Macdonald's employee to make Creme Brulee!

[@paulwatts1704]

As others have noted a competent DIYer can get to 95% of a professional ceramic coating service - but you need to invest in a dual action polisher and watch a good few videos on how to use it to prep the paint. A 2 stage ceramic coating can then be applied (not the single coat DIY stuff). It helps to practice on an older car first and allow a couple of days to do the work..

[@RWallyb]

There is no evidence to suggest 2 stage is better than single stage coating. It's way more in depth than that lol

[@TheLongonot62]

I cant really see that you have exposed a scam here. A scam would be that the dealer didn't put a ceramic coating, or just polished the car, but charged for the ceramic coating, for example. Overpricing for a genuine product/finish wouldn't really be a scam. I think that your mate stating using the words 'rip off' is more appropriate.

[@user-ih3nb4vv5g]

They just added this to my car without consent and added fees in million pages i had to sign. Believe fee was 499. I asked for proof the applied it and got answer and told it was not optional to avoid fees from car total. Not right i didn't ask for the costing.

[@sicr7373]

Lovely car and lovely finish.....At the other end of the scale, I bought my VW Caddy van brand new in 2004, it will be 18 years old on Oct 1st and has done 238000 miles without hardly any issues (one new clutch, but I do tow a bit) and it hasn't been washed in 3 years LOL, If I was to have it ceramic coated It would probably cost more than the vans worth so I'll crack on as it is.......Great channel by the way, glad all was well with the medical stuff, I've had Ulcerative Colitis for 29 years so am no stranger to a colonoscopy!

[@chriskirby6701]

Car looks good Lee, But now the hard work begins, keeping it looking that way, this is were most people that have had they car ceramic coated fail, you need to look after it, no taking it through car washes, the guys at the supermarket or hand car wash station round the corner. you will need to, two bucket wash using a wash mitt, PH natural shampoo, rinse using purified water ( if washing outside ) and dry with a drying towel ( or better still a car blower ). if you dont follow a good cleaning routine then you have just waisted your money.

[@TheMacMaster]

I take it to the Valet Man who ceramic coated it for me. 👍🏼

[@Greg_P611]

I do this for a living and I can completely agree with the fact that what the dealerships are selling as a long term coating is an absolute scam. Fox Motors in Michigan sells one for $1200 and it’s a spray on spray off sealant!

[@johnmcgill4382]

Hi Lee. I have never heard .such a load of DO DAR in my life, water base paint is NO softer than solvent based paint.The factory applied lacquer is not water based only the basecoat and the primer surfacer are waterbased. All of which are baked at 220c apart from the plastic parts. The water based products only have a small amount of water in them to lower the emissions when the products are being applied [VOC's] Once the car is baked and has cooled to ambient temperature the water base product is as hard as solvent based product.

[@Honda_Hooligan]

Totally agree. The fluff that people fall for is astonishing.

[@M.E63]

There was a-load of crap but newer cars are coming with softer paints , even the German cars are coming with soft paint , it’s bcuz they are using different clear coats and there is water based acrylic clear coats on a lot of near vehicles , and the diamondbrite crap is not even a ceramic coating he was talking about , the Japanese’s cars always had soft paints and they still are , they was and still are 2k clear coats but the Japanese use softer clear coats and now it’s more and more common on newer cars from Europe , bmw and Mercedes used to have the hardest clear coats but even they are on the softer side but water based paints should last just as long you don’t keep polishing it as newer cars have thin paint

[@rodheatherington]

Ceramic is a scam. I could call it ‘glass coat’ and people would buy it. Don’t support it - won’t sell it. And I’m a big deal when it comes to detailing.

[@AudioFlat]

What a load of nonsense. All this nano, ceramic, graphene rubbish is just pure marketing pseudo science designed to appeal to people’s OCD.

[@daviddickinson6346]

I am a car painter and that is total BS. Water based paints are NO softer because the water based paint is only in the basecoat (colour coat) The clear coat or top coat is still solvent based clear and a lot of shops like ours use high solids clear coat which is harder than the older paints. Now who's scamming who.

[@TheMacMaster]

Are you the real deal. 😜

[@daviddickinson6346]

@@TheMacMaster 100% true , do your research.😯

[@scotty7174]

100% True

[@Steve-s3x]

So, why is it a scam? If it is a scam, why did you get it? After ceramic coating, can you take your car to the regular car wash?

[@arrozconmgtow5026]

He's a youtuber...he's being hyperbolic. The science behind ceramic coatings is sound. The 'scam' part is where dealerships will charge double or even triple the cost of what a full, standalone detailer would charge for the same product. My personal shop offers this service and the package includes everything one would need for a successful relationship with their coating which is everything from the wash stage to polish/correction and the coating itself. Heck, I even throw in the first maintenance wash, gratis and for a vehicle this size it's going to be 1250 USD whereas the local dealers here want anywhere from 2 to 4 grand JUST for the coating and on what amounts to a vehicle with flaws on the surface. Yup, they put it on right over the swirls.

[@andywright3450]

Hey good vlog enjoy it mate . Congratulations on 63,000 subscribers fully fully deserved mate love your vlogs everyone of them 💯💯💯😊😊

[@Watfordfc71]

I’m 51 and what happened to the old fashioned way . Way to over complicating a problem that isn’t there

[@ModleskyAutoDetailing]

It's a combination of things. One, paint is a lot thinner than it was years ago. So, brand new cars can suffer clear coat failure a lot quicker. Second, vehicles are expensive and they are depreciating assets so the less you maintain the faster they depreciate. Nobody wants to pay for a vehicle for 6 years and have it look like hell now that it's paid off. Third, profucts have significantly improved over the years. What is available now is significantly better than what was available years ago. I was a diehard Rain Dance user. No way I would pick Rain Dance over what is available today, especially because of ease of application and durability. Rain Dance would last a month or so. Carnauba wax doesn't last long either. Both made your vehicle look really good but why use them when the quality of the products available are so much better. My base price paint sealant on a detail lasts 9 to 12 months if the customer is maintaining the vehicle by washing periodically. A ceramic coating can last a year, 2 years, 5 years or longer depending on the specific coating. But, it depends on the individual. If I have a classic that I want to show off and also protect and have ease of maintenance I'm choosing ceramic coating. If course, PPF is the ultimate if you have $8,000+ to spend

[@GT380man]

In my experience, which is limited, car finishes are better than ever. If you’re willing to properly wash, dry, occasionally polish your finish, clay bar it every few years if you’ve an obsessive mind, it’s fine. It’s the clearcoat that protects your paint. And clearcoat is extremely hard and durable. I have found on the better makes, those clearcoats will last decades, even living outside 24/7. My wife’s Audi TT looked as good as new when we sold it aged 15 years. It was always a pleasure to detail her car. I will confess my MkIV Golfs x2 were nowhere near as good and became dull and resistant to polishing within half that time. Current RR Evoque looks closer to Audi than VW so far. I also find I don’t care as much as I used to and find a lot of people don’t either.

[@brendamorgan]

Its just like when you buy a new sofa you need special foam cushions, easy glide feet for wooden floors and Scotchguard for stains. 250 quid extra! And if you buy any electrical item you need insurance on it. I ALLWAYS say no.👍

[@garethdavies7564]

im a detailer my self never ever have your car ceramic coated in dealership ...they use cheap chinese stuff...not the high end products ... i have had to strip many cars of the old coatings and re do they work 😮

[@ModleskyAutoDetailing]

I've had several customers bring me their vehicles to be detailed that purchased them new from a local dealer who sells multiple brands. They were sold the "ceramic coating" by the dealership and given a kit with maintenance products and the remaining "coating" which was nothing more than a spray wax with an siO2 element to it. I used a strip wash soap and it was gone. So much for the dealership ceramic coating

[@pinkpolo97]

Been working in the motor trade for over 25 years for main and cowboy dealers... diamond bright isn't very good at all, it's been outclassed by so many others now. But yes it is a scam, because it never gets done correctly, that's if it's even put on. Williams or super100+, etc are easier to apply yourself.

[@zenzen9131]

I just bought a year old Yaris Hybrid from the main dealer and paid about £200 to have what they call SupaGuard. I only did this because I had my previous Yaris Hybrid (in solid red) treated the same way and kept it for 9 years. The paintwork was still in pristine condition when I part exchanged it.

[@colinjones2505]

Ironically, my Skoda Superb is getting detailed and ceramic coated this coming Monday. I quite like polishing and waxing my car, but this one is just so big I 'd have to do it over several days. GAP insurance is another favourite from dealers too....another total rip off. Twice the price or more from your own car insurance provider

[@sadoldgit313]

Never buy GAP from your current main insurer! If you need to claim you don’t have an independent representative in the team!

[@badgersalesman5595]

Every car needs professional paint correction be it brand new or used. IT IS NOT A SCAM. It is just overpriced and not applied properly by the lazy valaters. I prefer GARD X and it DOES work. I sell it at £399 and it is a lifetime warranty. I do it myself on my own cars and it is amazing. I just don’t have the time to do it for my customers.

[@1kontrabida]

It's not that its waterbase paint but the application of clearcoat is far less than lets say upto 2014 non single stage paint( meaning for example they do 6 coats of clear before and now their doing 4 coats or less) is whats causing clear coat failure/ damage and compared with other brands it is much more significant with Japanese vehicles than North American or European Cars. Even the the headlights suffer uv damage prematurely hence i recommend applying clear film on headlights and taillights and this year i started offering not ceramic but flow coating for certain clients who wants to take their cars paint to the next level (which the car is color sanded and re cleared a few times enough to color sand and polish the car 3-4 times more than a regular car that came out of factory without going through the clear coat and also with just a little to no orange peel depending on the clients preference and a car show gloss level. This is guaranteed the life of the vehicle if properly maintained.

[@dvdmakinson]

i would not buy an ev if you paid me.

[@unpointsword]

I ceramic coated my 2019 ford ranger with a double undercoat. People remark on my truck everytime i bring it out. For the compliments i receive it was worth 2500...

[@locophoto6881]

You ever notice stupid people never think they're stupid? You DO realize that before "ceramic" the SEMA show cars were simply washed, waxed, and then put on a coat or two Zaino Z2 which is $20 for an entire bottle and it's cake to put on.....and looks fantastic and lasts for six months.....so no bud...you ripped yourself off by not being smart enough to do research in detailing forums.

[@Wonkabar007]

A couple of times when buying new cars, the salesman threw in this treatment for free when he realised I wasn't going to pay for it, the dealerships must make something out of using the product. The plus point when they do this treatment is you get a bag packed with various bottles of cleaning products for cleaning the exterior of the car.

[@audiovideotech9777]

By looking at those water beads, you don't have a Professional Ceramic Coating on the Porsche. Ive been Detailing for 23 years and I was the 1st detailer who brought Glass/Ceramic Coatings into the PNW (USA) back in 2007. Im also a Regional National Porsche Club of America Pro Detailer. My low average Ceramic Coating Detail starts at $2500 (USD).

[@lacoste1245]

What you after a badge ?

[@audiovideotech9777]

@@lacoste1245 put junk on your car if you want

[@petersmith7126]

Ceramic coatings can and do work but they need to be done correctly and the car needs to be prepared correctly prior to the coating being applied... A new car beliefe it or not can need a full one stage polish at minium and I've seen video evidence of them requiring a two and 3 stage polish and paint correction before you can start to apply the ceramic coating ... You can easily be talking of being in the unit 2-3 days just for the paint and add on another day or two for wheel and glass protection and a proper ceramic coating can require 24 hours to cure so you can easily be talking about 7 days to do the whole car Yes its going to cost £700-£1,000 but unlike the dealer applied stuff this will last the 5-7 years if looked after properly

[@RonaldRenner-pr7zd]

It’s a scam at a dealer! They mostly put a spray “ceramic” on and sell you an insurance policy. True pro installed ceramic is not a scam and protects your car for years!

[@DirtyDingusMcGee]

I had it done 5 years ago on my Jeep and even now things like squished bugs don't stick to it, had my new jag done and it seems well worth it especially if you intend to keep your vehicle, but never ever get it done at a dealership go to a professional valet.

[@tomgreaves85]

This valeter doesn't seem very knowledgeable at all, just because a car is brand new doesn't mean at all that it won't need the same level of preparation as a car a couple of years old. I regularly have cars with delivery mileage that need correction work (plus the necessary decontamination stages) prior to applying coatings. Diamond bright is also not a good coating, which is why very few professionals use it, other than main dealers.

[@bcdave91]

You need to dump that Porche and get a Hillman Minx or Austin Cambridge -- something with some character!!

[@lloydmillership9682]

My family run a high end detailing company they added a 5 year ceramic coating it's been great washing the car is so much easier use a revive shampoo no polishing just dry off with fleece cloth cost me £149 mates rates no regrets 😊😊

[@maxzanderv1]

So much missing information. Just because your car is new does not mean it will be less work. That new car has been through a factory, a transport carrier or boat, transported on a car carrier, washed by a lot tech before you received it. There is plenty of contamination, swirls, hazing and marks on every vehicle. Like stated new paint is soft and very receptive to abrasions. When a professional applies a Professional coating, that car is decontaminated including Iron decontamination, clay bared, polished or corrected at the minimum, IPA wiped down then coated. My bottle of Professional Ceramic cost almost as much this service.

[@kevinwhite8836]

Absolutely agree. I have detailed all of my new cars and some of the paintwork was shocking new from factory. Often needs a bit of de-nibbing and all cars should be washed, clayed, compounded, polished and then IPA wiped before ceramic coating. Micro scratches will bug any perfectionist if you coat over them, as they become more visible.

[@rickyrich799]

I couldn't afford a new car but I had enough money for ceramic coating, So I decided to buy an old civic for a grand instead ...

[@michaelderozario5626]

When I worked in dealerships 30+ yrs ago, I couldn’t (wouldn’t) sell it as it was crap and then. Mind you it was sold at £300+vat, cost was about £16…

[@joebloggs4191]

He said four hours to do the job and then says £500? Sounds expensive to me, 4 x £40 per hour = 160 plus a bottle of ceramic coating say around £80 for a good one = £240. Alright maybe there is VAT to pay on the labour cost but seriously for this type of work I can’t see the labour rate being higher than £40 an hour!

[@lewisbrown51]

So he reckons labour time plus Vat is worth £105 and hour, ridiculous. And anyone paying that is responsible.... Unfortunately not uncommon with valeters these days... At the same time a lot cheaper than the stealerships (but they are proper crooks)

[@NwdesignCo]

Diamond Bright, that’s a blast from the past taking me back to the 90s.

[@Essydyk]

Why would you pay for a ceramic coating on a rented car? Plus your headline is attention grabbing but deeply misleading.

[@TheMacMaster]

It’s not rented. It’s leased and keeping it mint so they don’t charge me when I take it back.

[@pdadswell]

Your pal is wrong the base coat is water based then dried and the lacquer is still 2 pack . So he's telling you porky pies my friend your paint work is as hard as ever

[@lacoste1245]

@@TheMacMasterit’s not rented it’s leased 😂 they mean the same thing you tool

[@TR6Telos]

I bought the stuff off ebay for about £15 after 10 yrs I re did it, it reduces dirt sticking you just hose the car and once a year clean with micro fibre cloth.

[@MrDead1975]

I had Feynlab self healing ceramic coating applied after a full detailing to my lambo and the end result was night and day. any future micro swirls in the paint work self heal with heat. also had a nano-coating applied to my wheels and dirt/break dust just washed off with a hose, no scrubbing required. money well spent

[@justindale1365]

Bought time a guy knows what he's talking about.

[@jjones3057]

Also, Diamond Brite is an absolute disgrace of a product. Anything like that which needs a conserver.. is nonsense. If you ask a dealer how they applied it in the first place, you will quickly realise, its doomed to fail.

[@darrenwootton2007]

Yes it’s shit Lee I would of done you a better deal for £150 kkd sistal with a single stage polish panel wipe and coating.

[@ryanl8653]

If you want to talk about "scams", look no further than the "warranty" you got with your coating! A quality coating applied correctly is 100% worth it! I will agree some are overpriced and over-exaggerated. With stealerships being the biggest offenders.

[@philipdodd7728]

Brilliant vlog Lee whatever happened to good old spit and polish 😁👍👍👍

[@AllanSimpson1973]

Hey Lee... The last time a bird pooed on my car I dumped her... but your car is looking great... great video again... Little birdy in the sky why did you poo in my eye, i wont laugh, i wont cry I'm just glad Elephants don't fly!

[@jjones3057]

Not named Amber was she...

[@chrispayne523]

When I got my car I was offered the Williams one £350. I refused it. They knocked £350 off the price of the car so I would buy it. Just goes to show they make something for selling it.

[@vermontvermont9292]

Ive worked for several dealerships. I can 100% say with certainty those "protection" packages they sell are a scam. Especially the auto armor package here in the states.

[@markrobinson1458]

That was basically an advert for the detailing guy, good luck to him being a self-employed detailer, at his age he's probably just doing for pocket money. Hence the discount.

[@jezevans8697]

The joy of vehicle ownership for me is DIY cleaning. This is an easy job but probably 6-8 hours for a perfectionist on their own vehicle. I’ve had ceramic both DIY and professional (£800) but believe a 6 monthly quality polish is as good and enjoyable, with the correct preparation of course. Each to their own though and at £350 it’s worth a go if you’re time crunched 👍

[@massimocredenza5697]

The base coat is waterborne on some premium vehicles but the clearcoat is still solvent borne and the same as used on solvent borne base coat. Clearcoat is the outer layer so that’s the only layer that the environment interacts with. I’m amused by all the waterborne rationale.

[@mechanick1000]

it use to be called diamond bright i worked at a main stealers once and they really pushed this stuff to the extent they lied so much once i had a woman call me (service manager ) to complain she hit a tree and the diamond bright didnt protect the car !!!

[@mirrorlessmedia1536]

Ceramic coating is a rip off, I’ll never pay anyone to do mine - I do it myself with a £40 bottle of carpro , 3 stage decon 2 stage machine polish and you don’t have to leave it inside for 24hrs , it’s as easy as applying wax

[@justindale1365]

Well do it yourself and save the money you choad. Arm chair experts why whinge when you can do it yourself.

[@gottliebdee263]

@@justindale1365 I think you're either mistaken or haven't done the research or aren't being completely honest. Looking at the support pages for these products, (not what the 'installers' say), you get TO VARYING DEGREES things like; Conditions should be dry, out of direct sunlight and no strong winds present during application. Conditions must be above 5°c for a minimum of 12 hours, the car must not be released into the elements for the first 4 hours and the vehicle should not be washed for the first 7 days after application. ​How I read that is, people cannot be trusted and will not follow the instructions and then take the car back when the product has failed.

[@alanoliver379]

I hand wash my 9 Month old Car despite the fact I am disabled & need to use a walking aid. I would NEVER use one of these places that employ possible illegal immigrants. They use the cheapest & most aggressive solutions & they tend to miss parts of the Car. I used to on my Previous 12 yr old Car but despite the fact it slaughters me physically I know it's being done with the Care & attention only an owner can give it. The front of my Car is PPF'd, I have thought about Ceramic Coating but I'm not totally convinced. As others have alluded to, Good quality waxing 3-4 times yearly will suffice, And good quality wax added shampoo when washing (fortnightly)

[@jleo3051]

I used to be a rep for Feynlab...save your money up for PPF instead. Ceramic coatings aren't worth the money.

[@jglasernyc]

informative for sure, thanks Lee.

[@mansfieldlad123]

Would a can of Mr Sheen and a duster not do the same job ?

[@TheMacMaster]

Come on Pledge :0)

[@Eric_G65]

Ceramic coating around here on Long Island is considerably more expensive. For the full treatment for a slightly older car, it generally costs about $2000 US dollars and they recommend redoing it every three years. I have a Lexus LS600 and I have to get mine done and I am still shopping somebody to do the job.

[@rodheatherington]

It’s a total scam I think. It takes polish and spray wax every 3 months -

[@ModleskyAutoDetailing]

It depends on the starting point. If there's scratches and swirls that need to be removed first it takes time to correct that, especially if it's over the entire vehicle. Then, you need to refine the paint to bring back the gloss because the cutting phase tends to dull it up. And it's not as easy as it sounds because you need to do a test panel first to see what kind of results you get from different pad and polish combinations before beginning. You can't just throw a pad on a polisher and put a few dots of just any compound and go at it because not all paint is the same. Some are harder than others. After the polishing stage you need to do a panel wipe to remove all the oils from the surface so it's completely clean for the coating. And, the application of a coating is different as well. Different coatings require different amounts of time before wiping off and then you need to check for high spots because if a high spot dries you have to use a machine to get it off and re-apply the coating in that area. And high spots look like hell. Some ceramic coatings require the use of heat lamps to cure them as well. And that takes time. In any case, if you find a good detailer who has been in operation for years and not just some weekend warrior who says it's easy and he can do it a lot cheaper you will get a combination of the best price and quality. I've corrected numerous mistakes made by weekend warrior types. Find a good detailer. You won't be sorry

[@rjanuari1978]

If only people knew how easy is to ceramic coat a car. I DIYed mine with 0 experience. Watches a bunch of youtube videos, spent around 400 bucks worth of products + a polisher and did it myself in one day. Wash, decom, polish, coating. It's going strong for 2 years now. 400-500 bucks is 1/3 of what you'd be charged and you still learn a trade on the process that a LOT of people are willing to pay for. EDIT. 400 bucks I spent was in all products + a polisher. Just to be clear.

[@Youtubeuser1aa]

Yeah but how much time?

[@PenFriends]

@@KZbinuser1aayour time is your time, point is he learnt and did a job good enough for him to enjoy. I love washing my car, even though I don’t have a professional setup. I am contemplating adding a graphene coating as it is supposed to be tougher than ceramic

[@jamesweber4938]

Anything bought at the dealer at the time you buy the car is going to cost more money than getting it done elsewhere.

[@derekwhittle2158]

Wash it dry it with a drying towel give it a good polish and next day wax it Twice if you can Use a drying towel and a liquid wax.get some decent wheel cleaner and wax the alloys as well

[@amenerstugard1894]

HOW fantastic and informative video again, Lee! :-) Thank you so much. From your videos I have leaned that I will NOT buy an electric car and I will NOT have a ceramic coating on ANY car. I will stick to my nonelectric feet with natural coating and my traditional and electric bicycles and scooters. No problems ever. Thanks for you help with making my decision, Lee. :-)

[@keithpearson8355]

Kia sold me me this rubbish and charged me £200 when I complained they said they would clay bar the car for free when I asked if would affect the coating they said no its still coated i had to kick off befor they. agreed to do it again and i don't believe they ever touched it its a scam

[@ratansarkar4990]

It's not a scam if it's done properly

[@surething1656]

It’s a scam but you got it done to your car……how does that work?

[@GT380man]

It’s not worthless but not worth £1000+ The scam isn’t that it doesn’t do anything but that it’s massively overpriced on a new car, when the work must be as easy as it’s going to get.

[@PenFriends]

Click bait title …again

[@PenFriends]

@@GT380manbut that’s not what the title says.

[@RandomGuy-j8t]

Dealer quoted me CAD$1400 for a ceramic coating on my new car (I'd assume that also includes paint correction...) - I can buy all the paint correction tools and ceramic coating, etc for MUCH less and just do it myself. If it saves me a lot of money. Doing it myself, not looking for perfection...plus the fun of doing it is good

[@craig8692]

Why did you need to do paint correction on a new car?

[@ivor1957]

@@craig8692highlights his lack of knowledge😂

[@spittinvenom9843]

Depending on the quality of product and number of coatings and if runs were included that’s not a terribly bad price.

[@MartinBennett-rs6thrasher]

@@craig8692 because the car is not protected and will be scratched and contaminated by the time it is at the dealership. Unfortunately, most people don't notice and are satisfied with a (apparently) clean and shiny car. Dealerships do not employ detailers, as it would eat into their profit. They will however charge a premium for a lackluster 'coating' service over the uncorrected clearcoat.

[@oggie1967]

Jesus! I’m taking delivery of a 2005 one owner Aston Martin DB9 in a fortnight. The local detailing guy is going to give it a full detail inside & out including clay bar & finished off with a 2 year ceramic coating for £140.00!! I’d call that an absolute giveaway!🤷🏻👍

[@petersmith7126]

You sure that's not just an extra £140 for the ceramic coating..... I've looked at a few guys around me and the full detail is £150 plus £100 for a 1 year ceramic coating

[@ModleskyAutoDetailing]

Hope it worked out for you. Something doesn't sound right

[@petersmith7126]

@@ModleskyAutoDetailing .... Sounds too good to be true ..... Don't get me wrong there's a stack of mobile valeter's around where I live offering a ceramic coating, even without a machine polish, for an extra £90-£100 on top of their full valet

[@oggie1967]

@@petersmith7126 I’m going to make damn sure before I trust them with my Aston, that’s for sure! Cheers for the tip!👍

[@oggie1967]

@@ModleskyAutoDetailing You’ve started alarm bells ringing! Going to find out a bit more about them!👍

[@johnnywoods9473]

I use Harly Wax. Far better than any ceramic coating on the market!

[@GT380man]

I use that on my old motorcycles. It’s wonderful. Carnuba wax goes on easily and polishes off just the same. Really important that the paint is super clear and of even reflectivity before waxing. Also to use only v v clean cloths. You cannot polish with a dirty, gritty rag.

[@TomQuinn-j1t]

The Toyota dealer just applied the ceramic coating without any preparation and every day we watch it streak off. Cost 300USD for nothing.

[@eroom2087]

Wax is nothing more than a cleaner, new finish wax wipe’s on easy and wipes of easy, been using it since 1990

[@poseidon3032]

Ran into it in 2019 as an adjuster. I didn't like it. Thought it to be a gimmick to solve a problem that could already be solved with a higher quality clear or an extra coat of standard clear or both. I'm no longer a tech and glad I don't have to deal with it. Been out of the mix for awhile and ready to get back to it. If it's possible as an adjuster, I'd recommend Appearance Allowance and leave crap off or leave it to the owner to pay for the coating themselves. OEM and aftermarket urethane clears are really good nowadays.

[@EV6-Gear]

Had my EV6 ceramic coated. Cost a bomb but was worh it. Cheap ceramics are the rip off's

[@locophoto6881]

Oh really? What made it worth "a bomb". You DO realize that before "ceramic" the SEMA cars simply washed, waxed, and then put on a coat or two Zaino Z2 which is $20 for an entire bottle and it's cake to put on.....and looks fantastic and lasts for six months.....so no bud...you ripped yourself off by not being smart enough to do research in detailing forums.

[@user-jg6vw3em9f]

Hi Lee. Good video however I don’t see the financial benefit if you are paying £350 to have your leased car ceramic protected on an EV bought on lease at £120,000 with significant depreciation. Can you explain the financial benefit? Better to have the car valeted. 😊

[@lewisbrown51]

Financial benefit will be to the guy who buys it second hand after he's shelled out coating it and paying the depreciation

[@travelwithstyle400]

yeah i also wanted ceramic coating but i didn’t feel worth it. And I am happy with original paint quality. I use microfibre cloth nd good shampoo to wash. And never wipe car with dry cloth without washing

[@yessanknow302]

you haven't exposed any scam

[@MrChadder007]

500?? !!! In the US some places are charging thousands of dollars. One even quoted around $5000.

[@chodkowski01]

When the coating fails they will tell you that you didn’t maintain the coating properly. You’re not allowed to take your car to a car wash because they use strong chemicals that can degrade the ceramic coating.

[@artv4nd3l4y]

@@chodkowski01 Yeah it's really fishy trusting any detail shops for anything at all. The marketing is just crazy behind ceramic/nano now, and there are guys selling this for woodworking/epoxy projects and general use. The coatings have some use cases, but the need to polish it off and reapply is simply impractical for most applications. For a dealer however, it's the perfect way to continue charging someone for a refresh, or maybe the ceramic even went away because you didn't maintain it properly. Lol, no thank you I also hear about them being applied incorrectly and having to fight with the shop to fix it.

[@logiclee1]

I never fall for that one. I even tell dealers not to wash it. If you are that bothered about the paint go for ppf.

[@bigmatt2896]

im having my jag xfr machine polished next week along with wheels off detail and 4 year ceramic protection.......£££