Cessna 150 Spin instruction

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timber452

timber452

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@Spyke-lz2hl
@Spyke-lz2hl 4 жыл бұрын
Much better instructor than I was, so thorough and patient. I enjoyed my time instructing, and I think my students did too, but I always felt like I could do better than I was. She is what I wish I would’ve been, in that sense. Nice job to both of you. Being a humble student ready to learn, is just as important. A great instructor with a brick for a student is as bad as a bad instructor with someone who is thirsty to learn.
@buridah328
@buridah328 2 жыл бұрын
How much do lessons cost these days
@thetaxman5302
@thetaxman5302 2 жыл бұрын
@@buridah328 $75/hour for the instructor and $230/hour for a c172 incl fuel
@Paiadakine
@Paiadakine 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad in the late 70’s spins were part of the regiment for ppl.
@kevinmarsden1439
@kevinmarsden1439 2 жыл бұрын
The scary thing is the loss of about 500ft on the first spin(and close to 700ft on his second attempt) ... shows you that on the base-to-final turn speed and attitude control is vital, no amount of spin recovery training will help you if she flicks with you down low ... marvelous instructor/student co-ordination throughout 👏
@rogerbrady1578
@rogerbrady1578 4 жыл бұрын
This brings back memories when I did spins in the late 60s. We did a full power and full flaps it took about 5 turns to recover. I was told later it was an Inverted spin? I'm 78 now and this brought it all back. Thank you
@douglasmcintyre3297
@douglasmcintyre3297 6 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this. It reminded me so much of my own flight training during the summer of 1974.
@rogerdickinson920
@rogerdickinson920 5 жыл бұрын
Douglas McIntyre Same hear, same year in Victoria.
@RollTide8569
@RollTide8569 6 жыл бұрын
This should be required for PPL in the US.
@rogue8853
@rogue8853 6 жыл бұрын
NO!
@RollTide8569
@RollTide8569 6 жыл бұрын
Sam Roque Why not?
@rogue8853
@rogue8853 6 жыл бұрын
it should be encouraged and more available but required? that makes training more expensive for everyone and theres no clear data that suggests that it stops fatalities. The vast majority of spin/deaths happen in the pattern. and usually DW to Base or final. which makes it closer to 500ft. most will never recover 500ft in a full spin. putting yourself into a spin on purpose is one thing, but to botch the stall recovery and wind up in a spin is another. More training is always good. but to make it required is stretching sometimes.
@Ichibuns
@Ichibuns 5 жыл бұрын
Before maneuvers are done solo, they really need to be done. Just about any instructor can tell you about a time that a student has put them into a spin. It's not really more expensive to do. If you're in the utility category of an airplane that is rated for it. It takes no time at all and is pretty uneventful. Also, in IMC it's definitely a thing to consider.
@Mike-01234
@Mike-01234 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ichibuns I think upset recovery is more useful should be required.
@20121961
@20121961 Жыл бұрын
My instructor was never that good, and nor was I, as an instructor! This was great! Took me back to getting my instructor licence in the USA, too many years ago. (Didn't need spins for the CPL) Loved it! Thanks.
@squangan
@squangan Жыл бұрын
Learned spins and spiral dives getting my licence through the VFC at Victoria, BC in 1990. I enjoyed them and always looked forward to doing them both with the instructor and while flying solo.
@daffidavit
@daffidavit 6 жыл бұрын
You have one of the few YT videos where it is finished correctly. You finish your spin in a CLIMB attitude and then go full power. Most other videos, people just bring the nose level and overspeed the prop or else only go to cruise power. One purpose of practicing stalls and spins is to get away from the ground after recovery. It's good to make it automatic IMHO
@louigee1450
@louigee1450 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. This exactly. I miss this training being part of the American PPL
@mytube082007
@mytube082007 3 жыл бұрын
That was awesome! Student and the instructor were fun and informative to watch.
@deathstrike
@deathstrike 11 ай бұрын
My instructor was a hardass especially in stalls and spin training. Considering that you should basically never encounter a spin, and to make matter worse some aircraft are not even rated for spins at all like the Grumman American AA-5 . Let that bird get into a spin beyond I believe it's 3 rotations, you just signed your will. But in retrospect, I'm glad he taught me stall and spin recovery. Better to know how to do it than face being in one and NOT knowing how. That and crosswind landings are a solid test of man vs nature. As in: "It isn't natural to fly" we aren't given wings, so we need clunky cans with props, turbines, and now electrics to hopefully keep us up and in the air. But since flying isn't natural ,you need to be the master of your airplane. It doesn't fly you ,you fly it and if you make a mistake? The results speak for themselves. That was the most important lesson my Flight Instructor always stresses. Always keep control of your airplane, no matter what.
@drguffey
@drguffey 5 жыл бұрын
Although not a requirement, my flight school in Concord Ca did spin training anyway. One of the 150's (this was in 1977) had tumbled gyro's so the did spin training in it. Great fun once I realized how quickly they recover.
@robertlafnear4865
@robertlafnear4865 3 жыл бұрын
BEST training ever... after getting my PPL I was up doing some stalls pre landing back at my local airport and DARN ... the wing dipped and over I went.... but..... instantly remembering what I read about spins I did the full forward yoke , spin stopped , speed came up and I flew out of it................. A MUST TRAINING for all new pilots.
@DiMeCard
@DiMeCard 4 жыл бұрын
December 1991 - First flying lesson my instructor wanted to get the measure of what kind of student I was going to be. He let me fly the 152 off the runway at Fort Pierce Int'l Fla and he was itching to have some fun and try and scare the cr@p out of me so he asked me if he could demo a spin telling me it wasn't required for FAA PPL as it was considered the "risks of the maneuver outweigh the learning benefits". I thought why not, my theory being it would be a cure for nerves. George took it up to 6,000 ft entered the spin and I had a nice view of the orange groves out of the front windshield until my field of view shifted to the cabin ceiling, my head back as we pulled out of the spin at 2,000 ft. Not sure how many rotations and how many G's but it took a while to wipe the smile of my face.
@SoloPilot6
@SoloPilot6 Жыл бұрын
In a plane with a stick, you make a "figure 9" (or upside-down figure 9, depending on turn direction). With the 150's yoke, you are doing the same basic movement.
@wrex1377
@wrex1377 4 жыл бұрын
The 150 is a dream to fly. Controls are like butter!
@ianmcgarrigle8492
@ianmcgarrigle8492 3 жыл бұрын
Spin it and the wings fall off. Not a good outcome.
@Imranfeta-R7
@Imranfeta-R7 4 жыл бұрын
I have my spins tomorrow this comforted me a lot 😃
@dodge25
@dodge25 3 жыл бұрын
how was the spins? :)
@markoneill9346
@markoneill9346 Жыл бұрын
Hold it for tree rotations and you will feel it bite into the spin, an interesting technique for spin recovery in the 150/152 is to just let go of the controls, it takes a bit of nerve, but it works, if you leave 2000 rpm set it does a lovely pseudo flat spin, then just close the throttle and the nose will drop into a regular spin, those little aeroplanes are so unestimated and so much fun to fly. We use two acrobats for AUPRT training, I love them
@markfox1545
@markfox1545 Жыл бұрын
Tree?🌲
@markfox1545
@markfox1545 Жыл бұрын
Unestimated? Do you mean underestimated? You think sales in the millions for over half a century means they're underestimated? Weirdo.
@Sumtoshi
@Sumtoshi 4 жыл бұрын
The USA doesn’t require spin training. Oh what a few basic minutes could do for saving pilots lives yearly.
@sacharcpn9775
@sacharcpn9775 3 жыл бұрын
this is why in usa you have more crash
@alqumran5379
@alqumran5379 3 жыл бұрын
Spinning knowledge is vital for any rank of pilot. Above we see basic spinning, but there is a lot more to spinning then the movie above. Payload is a big isssue.high speed stall recovery vital to become really aware of the dangers. Recovery speed is a big debate. High speed stall in recovery, very tricky. The fatal mistake is transferring the knowledge to another airframe. retired CPL.
@eagleviewhd
@eagleviewhd 5 жыл бұрын
Used to love doing spins in Cessna 150. More fun than a rollercoaster. To recover from spin, just pull feet off of the rudder pedals. Learned to fly at Albrook AFB Aero Club in Panama in 1969.
@DavidKozinski
@DavidKozinski 4 жыл бұрын
All part of proper training. More knowledge to help in a time of real trouble.
@rezamostafid8810
@rezamostafid8810 Жыл бұрын
Home sweet home...just saw Constance Bay in the distance.....wondering which flight training outfit the crew and the aircraft is from?...( Ottawa Flying Club, Rockliffe, Carp? ....) ......
@joenenninger971
@joenenninger971 3 жыл бұрын
This will be controversial but simple, moderate g (1-2.5) aero (barrel roll, loop, chandelles, C8s) works in 150/172s with no more stress than spins.
@zack4377
@zack4377 3 жыл бұрын
they should do stall recovery for ppl in the US too honestly. get rid of S turns or something put this on the ACS. A very necessary maneuver ALL pilots should be comfortable with
@kream926
@kream926 2 жыл бұрын
(1200 hr dual given just for credibility) 3000' safe enough for spin training? I was never comfortable below 5000. Look at it this way in terms of ALT loss per spin; Turn 1 - ~500 (ALT remaining 2500) turn 2 - ~ 700 (1800' remain) Turn 3 - ~ 900(?) - (900 remain) Is that comfortable enough for you?
@cotyvegh5865
@cotyvegh5865 2 жыл бұрын
awesome instructor! she definitely has to be in the airlines by now
@timber452
@timber452 2 жыл бұрын
Ha, she is with an airline. Many a time I was flying home to Ottawa from New York and I would hear her voice and see her as we deplaned!
@soving
@soving 4 жыл бұрын
Too funny, random click only to spot Constance Bay at the start... Right over my home. Great vid.
@oussamac8744
@oussamac8744 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for an informative and clear video.
@erickborling1302
@erickborling1302 3 ай бұрын
Start at at least 5,000 agl if you're new to spinning. They were 4,000 msl, not sure of the surface elevation.
@easttexan2933
@easttexan2933 4 жыл бұрын
I remember my first one......absolutely scared the crap out of me. I got through them but I can tell you for sure, I didn't practice them lol. I am not an unusual attitude kinda pilot lol
@RaterisimoCBA
@RaterisimoCBA 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and instruction, so positive and good vibes !
@maestromarcelominal2247
@maestromarcelominal2247 6 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Reminds me of my firsts lessons concerning stall, back in Private Pilot days
@craighatzi6559
@craighatzi6559 6 жыл бұрын
I was 15 and did my first spin,I laughed so hard Clarence,my instructor had to recover after 8 revs.Yeah we had plenty of altitude and I had tons of fun
@jnb894
@jnb894 Жыл бұрын
Currently doinCurrently doing my PPL, 10 flights so far and my instructor made a demo of a spin. We did 3 and man oh man I was sacred, I litteraly panicked for a brief moment. 3rd spin I was less scared but still, quite a lot. The day after, went for another flight and just hearing the stall buzzer was frightening me, so we only practiced stalls... Too scared to get a downward spiral demo... The worst part to me is the spin start phase... I don't know how I will overcome this... Maybe I can't... Not a rollercoster guy right off the bat so... Damn it... I love aviation and everything around it but maybe piloting, is not, afterall, for me... Well done there tho, great control of the aircraft and well recovered.
@oussamac8744
@oussamac8744 Жыл бұрын
Come on, you will manage it. Have confidence on yourself and try to only think about the very moment, not "what would happen if". Good luck friend.
@headdown1
@headdown1 Жыл бұрын
Pilot training might well take you outside your comfort zone, but that is not a good reason to give it up. Think of spin training as insurance. It's something you need to have before a possible disaster strikes. I got my PPL in Canada and I can't imagine facing a spin situation for the first time in an actual emergency. The spins I did taught me to be methodical and unemotional in my recovery. I'm also a skydiver, and I think of this state of mind as being in the "astronaut zone". Like an astronaut, fear is not going to help you or make you safer during the actual event. It is only going to distract you from the task at hand, and is therefore counter - productive. The best way that I found to deal with my own fears has been to simply change the channel in my mind. When the fearful thoughts begin before a spin, force yourself to instead mentally rehearse what it is you need to do to recover. Think abut the mechanics of what you about to do. Intentionally change you thought process from one that is not helpful at all, to a thought process that not only is helpful, but also one that is a distraction from your fearful thoughts. It works for me anyway...
@adrianamendoza3095
@adrianamendoza3095 Жыл бұрын
This is what I dread. I hope I don’t faint while I learn this with my instructor.
@germanstorms2785
@germanstorms2785 4 жыл бұрын
I didnt even know this wasnt requiree in the us. Here in Germany (for a Sailplane Pilots License) you need to do this at 3 diffrent days!
@taytayflyfly7291
@taytayflyfly7291 3 жыл бұрын
sailplanes are typically rated for maneuvers such as spins where aircraft operating in the normal category in the US are not.
@roberthorvath9784
@roberthorvath9784 2 жыл бұрын
I miss it so so much
@stevemoerman6327
@stevemoerman6327 Жыл бұрын
re: comment at 2:00 about the 150 coming out of the spin as soon as you switch up the rudder... Try a few more turns. Full opposite rudder alone does absolutely nothing in an established spin until you actually break the stall first.
@sunnygurl336
@sunnygurl336 Жыл бұрын
O man on my second flight my instructor stalled the plane and I just felt the same feeling when I watched this
@troyc333
@troyc333 Жыл бұрын
I understand his way of thinking. "I need to get out of this situation FAST". She's obviously comfortable pulling this maneuver, but to someone who is not use to it would be very alarming.
@MhmmdAydn
@MhmmdAydn 3 жыл бұрын
I like the camera angle
@kaswhite1380
@kaswhite1380 6 жыл бұрын
Yea did lots of em too in Cessna 150 s way back in 1969 when I got my PPL with the Greenwood Flying Club at CFB Greenwood, N. S., Canada The C 150 has to be the easiest and most fun thing to fly on earth !
@willowglenn
@willowglenn 2 жыл бұрын
Got my glider pilot licence there.
@Plowman360
@Plowman360 4 жыл бұрын
wait a second, this is the Ottawa Practice Area! I thought I recognized the lake and the bay. I finished my training out of RFC, guessing this is OFC/OAS
@timber452
@timber452 4 жыл бұрын
Correct. Ottawa Flying Club
@willowglenn
@willowglenn 2 жыл бұрын
Got my PPL flying out of Pembroke. I wonder if our cross-country (Arnprior) would have crossed over?
@Plowman360
@Plowman360 2 жыл бұрын
@@willowglenn Definitely crossed over!
@jtkent28
@jtkent28 7 жыл бұрын
Aw c'mon get a few more turns in on those spins : )
@MrBangla11
@MrBangla11 Жыл бұрын
The mighty 150
@tommyjordan854
@tommyjordan854 3 жыл бұрын
This could make me nervous if I'm asked to do this when I start flying soon, yet it seems very simple to recover. Im sure il be fine. I may not even have to do this..... and I'm cool with that. Lol.
@ericwoy4132
@ericwoy4132 5 ай бұрын
That was cool!
@Yellow_cub
@Yellow_cub Жыл бұрын
Good instruction
@wdcapl
@wdcapl Жыл бұрын
It has not been mentioned, but it's fairly difficult to stall a 150. This is why the guys forced it during the training with left-rudder. Nice stuff
@Virginia91
@Virginia91 4 жыл бұрын
Only time I did a spin was when my instructor accidentally got into one demonstration a stall. Scared the crap outta me. When from 2500 feet to 1500 in seconds
@santiagokiwi3187
@santiagokiwi3187 4 жыл бұрын
In my country, that's quite illegal haha. Stalls should be fully recovered before 2500' the fact your instructor even demonstrated a stall starting at 2500' isn't really good..
@oriongrandjean5255
@oriongrandjean5255 3 жыл бұрын
Nice ramcharger
@owenjc9132
@owenjc9132 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so scared for this lesson
@d234baum
@d234baum 2 жыл бұрын
I remember my first spin, was crazy.
@quantomic1106
@quantomic1106 Жыл бұрын
I remember accidentally going into a spin when practicing slow flight. Almost shit myself.
@Xkh514
@Xkh514 4 жыл бұрын
How much G’s of force in the spin?
@harryroberts388
@harryroberts388 4 жыл бұрын
Negative g
@FlyingWildAZ
@FlyingWildAZ 6 жыл бұрын
I've got a lot of Cessna 150 spins on my channel.
@markdpua
@markdpua 3 жыл бұрын
This looks like a 152?
@timber452
@timber452 3 жыл бұрын
Correct. A nice 152 ... only 50 years old
@markdpua
@markdpua 3 жыл бұрын
@@timber452 yea because the 150 looks older and has a round ish shape panel lol
@airraptor
@airraptor 5 жыл бұрын
600 feet gone in three seconds
@peterkumar7080
@peterkumar7080 Жыл бұрын
Going in stall are scary whit Cessna 172
@MorganCarney1
@MorganCarney1 7 жыл бұрын
wait how did he put himself in a spin? is he doing something with the rudder?
@XplaneStudiosHD
@XplaneStudiosHD 6 жыл бұрын
Morgan Carney full left rudder in a stall stalls your left wing and spins you
@kaswhite1380
@kaswhite1380 6 жыл бұрын
Yea you go power off with wings level, to a stall, controls all the way back, at the stall (you should be in level flight) you go full either left or right rudder. And you'll drop off into a spin. Nothing to it.
@eagleviewhd
@eagleviewhd 5 жыл бұрын
Yes have to apply rudder to spin this plane, and just center rudder and it will stop spinning.
@Ichibuns
@Ichibuns 5 жыл бұрын
BOTH wings have to stall for a spin. You have to put one wing farther into the stall than the other. Eagle View HD is incorrect about recovery. Power Out immediately. Aileron neutral. Opposite rudder. With opposite rudder it will stop spinning pretty quickly in the Cessna. The idea is to be able to stop it quickly so you don't die when a spin is entered inadvertently. If you're in a 172, it's a lot of work to get into a spin. Those will pretty much recover themselves.
@emaleonel7655
@emaleonel7655 Жыл бұрын
Siento adrenalina de solo verlo
@timber452
@timber452 Жыл бұрын
estaba sudando
@squidiebah
@squidiebah 7 жыл бұрын
Nice video!
@d.n.3652
@d.n.3652 2 жыл бұрын
They look scary, I’m just glad U.S PPL doesn’t require this
@GZA036
@GZA036 4 жыл бұрын
"fly your plane"
@plebaroni3495
@plebaroni3495 2 жыл бұрын
I gotta do this today for the first time bruh
@AwakenedSerenity
@AwakenedSerenity Жыл бұрын
Wow! great video, may I feature a part of it in one of my videos? (will of course link back to your video in the description!)
@timber452
@timber452 Жыл бұрын
Yes, no problem
@prestontoborg4149
@prestontoborg4149 7 жыл бұрын
How old is this instructor my god
@Shizuma7775
@Shizuma7775 5 жыл бұрын
lady instructor
@roberthorvath9784
@roberthorvath9784 4 ай бұрын
Many pilots on the American side don't know how to pull out of a spin
@starallianceflyer7231
@starallianceflyer7231 5 жыл бұрын
Really Nice:))
@ivorharris4200
@ivorharris4200 Жыл бұрын
Sorry that is completely the WRONG way to teach/demonstrate a spin entry for purposes of spin recognition and avoidance (and subsequent recovery of course). Spin entry method used in training should always be off a slow over-ruddered (ie stalled skidding) gliding turn: THE WAY IT HAPPENS IN REAL LIFE!! As the Tiger Moth instructors used to drum into their students " don't stall and skid in a gliding turn, or for sure you'll crash and burn". This can also be turned into a good entry into a spiral dive by simply relaxing the back pressure on the elevator a little as the incipient spin transitions to the full spin, thereby providing a good demonstration of the differentiation of a spin from a spiral dive....critical of course for the recovery method to be applied.
@luke.thedrifter2281
@luke.thedrifter2281 Жыл бұрын
That’s gonna scare the shit out of me..
@MalachiWhite-tw7hl
@MalachiWhite-tw7hl Жыл бұрын
Does anyone think this is how Glen DeVries died?
@sumtingwong5451
@sumtingwong5451 3 жыл бұрын
It looks dangerous, but it seems like a necessary skill. But I'm still scared. I had no idea that such a small and weak aircraft could do this.
@stanktail
@stanktail 3 жыл бұрын
It's only dangerous either a) low altitude or b) poor pilotage
@brucekather4732
@brucekather4732 3 жыл бұрын
Small, but very stout airplane. Had to be to survive years of being beaten up by students
@gulfstream7235
@gulfstream7235 3 жыл бұрын
150 is a piece of piss to spin, very stable, as is the 152. It's brother the 172 is even more docile.
@Blacktopcowboy
@Blacktopcowboy 2 жыл бұрын
😵 I want to be a pilot but this terrifies me
@JimForeman
@JimForeman 6 жыл бұрын
I was a CFI for years and in both airplanes and gliders and you can bet your boots that anyone I ever flew with got the full treatment in spin instruction. What the heck, I even talked an FAA check pilot into an inverted spin in a glider during a CFI recertification ride. The story is in my website, www.jimforeman.com Click on Flying and look for Short Tales
@lucifermorningstar6126
@lucifermorningstar6126 6 жыл бұрын
Who's this flirty instructor I'm a new 150 owner (25 year old Texan) and would love some "spin training" from her!?
@airplaneramp
@airplaneramp Жыл бұрын
WEEEEEEEE lol
@luiscavalcanti3431
@luiscavalcanti3431 3 жыл бұрын
Mommy’s doll horror short film is quite amateur. Ghastlier than the own story PS. I had to opine here due to comment section being turned off
@spruill7716
@spruill7716 5 жыл бұрын
No thanks.
@markfox1545
@markfox1545 Жыл бұрын
Interesting, the UK PPL doesn't require actually entering a spin.
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