Much better instructor than I was, so thorough and patient. I enjoyed my time instructing, and I think my students did too, but I always felt like I could do better than I was. She is what I wish I would’ve been, in that sense. Nice job to both of you. Being a humble student ready to learn, is just as important. A great instructor with a brick for a student is as bad as a bad instructor with someone who is thirsty to learn.
@buridah3282 жыл бұрын
How much do lessons cost these days
@thetaxman53022 жыл бұрын
@@buridah328 $75/hour for the instructor and $230/hour for a c172 incl fuel
@Paiadakine2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad in the late 70’s spins were part of the regiment for ppl.
@kevinmarsden14392 жыл бұрын
The scary thing is the loss of about 500ft on the first spin(and close to 700ft on his second attempt) ... shows you that on the base-to-final turn speed and attitude control is vital, no amount of spin recovery training will help you if she flicks with you down low ... marvelous instructor/student co-ordination throughout 👏
@rogerbrady15784 жыл бұрын
This brings back memories when I did spins in the late 60s. We did a full power and full flaps it took about 5 turns to recover. I was told later it was an Inverted spin? I'm 78 now and this brought it all back. Thank you
@douglasmcintyre32976 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this. It reminded me so much of my own flight training during the summer of 1974.
@rogerdickinson9205 жыл бұрын
Douglas McIntyre Same hear, same year in Victoria.
@RollTide85696 жыл бұрын
This should be required for PPL in the US.
@rogue88536 жыл бұрын
NO!
@RollTide85696 жыл бұрын
Sam Roque Why not?
@rogue88536 жыл бұрын
it should be encouraged and more available but required? that makes training more expensive for everyone and theres no clear data that suggests that it stops fatalities. The vast majority of spin/deaths happen in the pattern. and usually DW to Base or final. which makes it closer to 500ft. most will never recover 500ft in a full spin. putting yourself into a spin on purpose is one thing, but to botch the stall recovery and wind up in a spin is another. More training is always good. but to make it required is stretching sometimes.
@Ichibuns5 жыл бұрын
Before maneuvers are done solo, they really need to be done. Just about any instructor can tell you about a time that a student has put them into a spin. It's not really more expensive to do. If you're in the utility category of an airplane that is rated for it. It takes no time at all and is pretty uneventful. Also, in IMC it's definitely a thing to consider.
@Mike-012344 жыл бұрын
@@Ichibuns I think upset recovery is more useful should be required.
@20121961 Жыл бұрын
My instructor was never that good, and nor was I, as an instructor! This was great! Took me back to getting my instructor licence in the USA, too many years ago. (Didn't need spins for the CPL) Loved it! Thanks.
@squangan Жыл бұрын
Learned spins and spiral dives getting my licence through the VFC at Victoria, BC in 1990. I enjoyed them and always looked forward to doing them both with the instructor and while flying solo.
@daffidavit6 жыл бұрын
You have one of the few YT videos where it is finished correctly. You finish your spin in a CLIMB attitude and then go full power. Most other videos, people just bring the nose level and overspeed the prop or else only go to cruise power. One purpose of practicing stalls and spins is to get away from the ground after recovery. It's good to make it automatic IMHO
@louigee14505 жыл бұрын
Yes. This exactly. I miss this training being part of the American PPL
@mytube0820073 жыл бұрын
That was awesome! Student and the instructor were fun and informative to watch.
@deathstrike11 ай бұрын
My instructor was a hardass especially in stalls and spin training. Considering that you should basically never encounter a spin, and to make matter worse some aircraft are not even rated for spins at all like the Grumman American AA-5 . Let that bird get into a spin beyond I believe it's 3 rotations, you just signed your will. But in retrospect, I'm glad he taught me stall and spin recovery. Better to know how to do it than face being in one and NOT knowing how. That and crosswind landings are a solid test of man vs nature. As in: "It isn't natural to fly" we aren't given wings, so we need clunky cans with props, turbines, and now electrics to hopefully keep us up and in the air. But since flying isn't natural ,you need to be the master of your airplane. It doesn't fly you ,you fly it and if you make a mistake? The results speak for themselves. That was the most important lesson my Flight Instructor always stresses. Always keep control of your airplane, no matter what.
@drguffey5 жыл бұрын
Although not a requirement, my flight school in Concord Ca did spin training anyway. One of the 150's (this was in 1977) had tumbled gyro's so the did spin training in it. Great fun once I realized how quickly they recover.
@robertlafnear48653 жыл бұрын
BEST training ever... after getting my PPL I was up doing some stalls pre landing back at my local airport and DARN ... the wing dipped and over I went.... but..... instantly remembering what I read about spins I did the full forward yoke , spin stopped , speed came up and I flew out of it................. A MUST TRAINING for all new pilots.
@DiMeCard4 жыл бұрын
December 1991 - First flying lesson my instructor wanted to get the measure of what kind of student I was going to be. He let me fly the 152 off the runway at Fort Pierce Int'l Fla and he was itching to have some fun and try and scare the cr@p out of me so he asked me if he could demo a spin telling me it wasn't required for FAA PPL as it was considered the "risks of the maneuver outweigh the learning benefits". I thought why not, my theory being it would be a cure for nerves. George took it up to 6,000 ft entered the spin and I had a nice view of the orange groves out of the front windshield until my field of view shifted to the cabin ceiling, my head back as we pulled out of the spin at 2,000 ft. Not sure how many rotations and how many G's but it took a while to wipe the smile of my face.
@SoloPilot6 Жыл бұрын
In a plane with a stick, you make a "figure 9" (or upside-down figure 9, depending on turn direction). With the 150's yoke, you are doing the same basic movement.
@wrex13774 жыл бұрын
The 150 is a dream to fly. Controls are like butter!
@ianmcgarrigle84923 жыл бұрын
Spin it and the wings fall off. Not a good outcome.
@Imranfeta-R74 жыл бұрын
I have my spins tomorrow this comforted me a lot 😃
@dodge253 жыл бұрын
how was the spins? :)
@markoneill9346 Жыл бұрын
Hold it for tree rotations and you will feel it bite into the spin, an interesting technique for spin recovery in the 150/152 is to just let go of the controls, it takes a bit of nerve, but it works, if you leave 2000 rpm set it does a lovely pseudo flat spin, then just close the throttle and the nose will drop into a regular spin, those little aeroplanes are so unestimated and so much fun to fly. We use two acrobats for AUPRT training, I love them
@markfox1545 Жыл бұрын
Tree?🌲
@markfox1545 Жыл бұрын
Unestimated? Do you mean underestimated? You think sales in the millions for over half a century means they're underestimated? Weirdo.
@Sumtoshi4 жыл бұрын
The USA doesn’t require spin training. Oh what a few basic minutes could do for saving pilots lives yearly.
@sacharcpn97753 жыл бұрын
this is why in usa you have more crash
@alqumran53793 жыл бұрын
Spinning knowledge is vital for any rank of pilot. Above we see basic spinning, but there is a lot more to spinning then the movie above. Payload is a big isssue.high speed stall recovery vital to become really aware of the dangers. Recovery speed is a big debate. High speed stall in recovery, very tricky. The fatal mistake is transferring the knowledge to another airframe. retired CPL.
@eagleviewhd5 жыл бұрын
Used to love doing spins in Cessna 150. More fun than a rollercoaster. To recover from spin, just pull feet off of the rudder pedals. Learned to fly at Albrook AFB Aero Club in Panama in 1969.
@DavidKozinski4 жыл бұрын
All part of proper training. More knowledge to help in a time of real trouble.
@rezamostafid8810 Жыл бұрын
Home sweet home...just saw Constance Bay in the distance.....wondering which flight training outfit the crew and the aircraft is from?...( Ottawa Flying Club, Rockliffe, Carp? ....) ......
@joenenninger9713 жыл бұрын
This will be controversial but simple, moderate g (1-2.5) aero (barrel roll, loop, chandelles, C8s) works in 150/172s with no more stress than spins.
@zack43773 жыл бұрын
they should do stall recovery for ppl in the US too honestly. get rid of S turns or something put this on the ACS. A very necessary maneuver ALL pilots should be comfortable with
@kream9262 жыл бұрын
(1200 hr dual given just for credibility) 3000' safe enough for spin training? I was never comfortable below 5000. Look at it this way in terms of ALT loss per spin; Turn 1 - ~500 (ALT remaining 2500) turn 2 - ~ 700 (1800' remain) Turn 3 - ~ 900(?) - (900 remain) Is that comfortable enough for you?
@cotyvegh58652 жыл бұрын
awesome instructor! she definitely has to be in the airlines by now
@timber4522 жыл бұрын
Ha, she is with an airline. Many a time I was flying home to Ottawa from New York and I would hear her voice and see her as we deplaned!
@soving4 жыл бұрын
Too funny, random click only to spot Constance Bay at the start... Right over my home. Great vid.
@oussamac8744 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for an informative and clear video.
@erickborling13023 ай бұрын
Start at at least 5,000 agl if you're new to spinning. They were 4,000 msl, not sure of the surface elevation.
@easttexan29334 жыл бұрын
I remember my first one......absolutely scared the crap out of me. I got through them but I can tell you for sure, I didn't practice them lol. I am not an unusual attitude kinda pilot lol
@RaterisimoCBA3 жыл бұрын
Great video and instruction, so positive and good vibes !
@maestromarcelominal22476 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Reminds me of my firsts lessons concerning stall, back in Private Pilot days
@craighatzi65596 жыл бұрын
I was 15 and did my first spin,I laughed so hard Clarence,my instructor had to recover after 8 revs.Yeah we had plenty of altitude and I had tons of fun
@jnb894 Жыл бұрын
Currently doinCurrently doing my PPL, 10 flights so far and my instructor made a demo of a spin. We did 3 and man oh man I was sacred, I litteraly panicked for a brief moment. 3rd spin I was less scared but still, quite a lot. The day after, went for another flight and just hearing the stall buzzer was frightening me, so we only practiced stalls... Too scared to get a downward spiral demo... The worst part to me is the spin start phase... I don't know how I will overcome this... Maybe I can't... Not a rollercoster guy right off the bat so... Damn it... I love aviation and everything around it but maybe piloting, is not, afterall, for me... Well done there tho, great control of the aircraft and well recovered.
@oussamac8744 Жыл бұрын
Come on, you will manage it. Have confidence on yourself and try to only think about the very moment, not "what would happen if". Good luck friend.
@headdown1 Жыл бұрын
Pilot training might well take you outside your comfort zone, but that is not a good reason to give it up. Think of spin training as insurance. It's something you need to have before a possible disaster strikes. I got my PPL in Canada and I can't imagine facing a spin situation for the first time in an actual emergency. The spins I did taught me to be methodical and unemotional in my recovery. I'm also a skydiver, and I think of this state of mind as being in the "astronaut zone". Like an astronaut, fear is not going to help you or make you safer during the actual event. It is only going to distract you from the task at hand, and is therefore counter - productive. The best way that I found to deal with my own fears has been to simply change the channel in my mind. When the fearful thoughts begin before a spin, force yourself to instead mentally rehearse what it is you need to do to recover. Think abut the mechanics of what you about to do. Intentionally change you thought process from one that is not helpful at all, to a thought process that not only is helpful, but also one that is a distraction from your fearful thoughts. It works for me anyway...
@adrianamendoza3095 Жыл бұрын
This is what I dread. I hope I don’t faint while I learn this with my instructor.
@germanstorms27854 жыл бұрын
I didnt even know this wasnt requiree in the us. Here in Germany (for a Sailplane Pilots License) you need to do this at 3 diffrent days!
@taytayflyfly72913 жыл бұрын
sailplanes are typically rated for maneuvers such as spins where aircraft operating in the normal category in the US are not.
@roberthorvath97842 жыл бұрын
I miss it so so much
@stevemoerman6327 Жыл бұрын
re: comment at 2:00 about the 150 coming out of the spin as soon as you switch up the rudder... Try a few more turns. Full opposite rudder alone does absolutely nothing in an established spin until you actually break the stall first.
@sunnygurl336 Жыл бұрын
O man on my second flight my instructor stalled the plane and I just felt the same feeling when I watched this
@troyc333 Жыл бұрын
I understand his way of thinking. "I need to get out of this situation FAST". She's obviously comfortable pulling this maneuver, but to someone who is not use to it would be very alarming.
@MhmmdAydn3 жыл бұрын
I like the camera angle
@kaswhite13806 жыл бұрын
Yea did lots of em too in Cessna 150 s way back in 1969 when I got my PPL with the Greenwood Flying Club at CFB Greenwood, N. S., Canada The C 150 has to be the easiest and most fun thing to fly on earth !
@willowglenn2 жыл бұрын
Got my glider pilot licence there.
@Plowman3604 жыл бұрын
wait a second, this is the Ottawa Practice Area! I thought I recognized the lake and the bay. I finished my training out of RFC, guessing this is OFC/OAS
@timber4524 жыл бұрын
Correct. Ottawa Flying Club
@willowglenn2 жыл бұрын
Got my PPL flying out of Pembroke. I wonder if our cross-country (Arnprior) would have crossed over?
@Plowman3602 жыл бұрын
@@willowglenn Definitely crossed over!
@jtkent287 жыл бұрын
Aw c'mon get a few more turns in on those spins : )
@MrBangla11 Жыл бұрын
The mighty 150
@tommyjordan8543 жыл бұрын
This could make me nervous if I'm asked to do this when I start flying soon, yet it seems very simple to recover. Im sure il be fine. I may not even have to do this..... and I'm cool with that. Lol.
@ericwoy41325 ай бұрын
That was cool!
@Yellow_cub Жыл бұрын
Good instruction
@wdcapl Жыл бұрын
It has not been mentioned, but it's fairly difficult to stall a 150. This is why the guys forced it during the training with left-rudder. Nice stuff
@Virginia914 жыл бұрын
Only time I did a spin was when my instructor accidentally got into one demonstration a stall. Scared the crap outta me. When from 2500 feet to 1500 in seconds
@santiagokiwi31874 жыл бұрын
In my country, that's quite illegal haha. Stalls should be fully recovered before 2500' the fact your instructor even demonstrated a stall starting at 2500' isn't really good..
@oriongrandjean52553 жыл бұрын
Nice ramcharger
@owenjc91323 жыл бұрын
I'm so scared for this lesson
@d234baum2 жыл бұрын
I remember my first spin, was crazy.
@quantomic1106 Жыл бұрын
I remember accidentally going into a spin when practicing slow flight. Almost shit myself.
@Xkh5144 жыл бұрын
How much G’s of force in the spin?
@harryroberts3884 жыл бұрын
Negative g
@FlyingWildAZ6 жыл бұрын
I've got a lot of Cessna 150 spins on my channel.
@markdpua3 жыл бұрын
This looks like a 152?
@timber4523 жыл бұрын
Correct. A nice 152 ... only 50 years old
@markdpua3 жыл бұрын
@@timber452 yea because the 150 looks older and has a round ish shape panel lol
@airraptor5 жыл бұрын
600 feet gone in three seconds
@peterkumar7080 Жыл бұрын
Going in stall are scary whit Cessna 172
@MorganCarney17 жыл бұрын
wait how did he put himself in a spin? is he doing something with the rudder?
@XplaneStudiosHD6 жыл бұрын
Morgan Carney full left rudder in a stall stalls your left wing and spins you
@kaswhite13806 жыл бұрын
Yea you go power off with wings level, to a stall, controls all the way back, at the stall (you should be in level flight) you go full either left or right rudder. And you'll drop off into a spin. Nothing to it.
@eagleviewhd5 жыл бұрын
Yes have to apply rudder to spin this plane, and just center rudder and it will stop spinning.
@Ichibuns5 жыл бұрын
BOTH wings have to stall for a spin. You have to put one wing farther into the stall than the other. Eagle View HD is incorrect about recovery. Power Out immediately. Aileron neutral. Opposite rudder. With opposite rudder it will stop spinning pretty quickly in the Cessna. The idea is to be able to stop it quickly so you don't die when a spin is entered inadvertently. If you're in a 172, it's a lot of work to get into a spin. Those will pretty much recover themselves.
@emaleonel7655 Жыл бұрын
Siento adrenalina de solo verlo
@timber452 Жыл бұрын
estaba sudando
@squidiebah7 жыл бұрын
Nice video!
@d.n.36522 жыл бұрын
They look scary, I’m just glad U.S PPL doesn’t require this
@GZA0364 жыл бұрын
"fly your plane"
@plebaroni34952 жыл бұрын
I gotta do this today for the first time bruh
@AwakenedSerenity Жыл бұрын
Wow! great video, may I feature a part of it in one of my videos? (will of course link back to your video in the description!)
@timber452 Жыл бұрын
Yes, no problem
@prestontoborg41497 жыл бұрын
How old is this instructor my god
@Shizuma77755 жыл бұрын
lady instructor
@roberthorvath97844 ай бұрын
Many pilots on the American side don't know how to pull out of a spin
@starallianceflyer72315 жыл бұрын
Really Nice:))
@ivorharris4200 Жыл бұрын
Sorry that is completely the WRONG way to teach/demonstrate a spin entry for purposes of spin recognition and avoidance (and subsequent recovery of course). Spin entry method used in training should always be off a slow over-ruddered (ie stalled skidding) gliding turn: THE WAY IT HAPPENS IN REAL LIFE!! As the Tiger Moth instructors used to drum into their students " don't stall and skid in a gliding turn, or for sure you'll crash and burn". This can also be turned into a good entry into a spiral dive by simply relaxing the back pressure on the elevator a little as the incipient spin transitions to the full spin, thereby providing a good demonstration of the differentiation of a spin from a spiral dive....critical of course for the recovery method to be applied.
@luke.thedrifter2281 Жыл бұрын
That’s gonna scare the shit out of me..
@MalachiWhite-tw7hl Жыл бұрын
Does anyone think this is how Glen DeVries died?
@sumtingwong54513 жыл бұрын
It looks dangerous, but it seems like a necessary skill. But I'm still scared. I had no idea that such a small and weak aircraft could do this.
@stanktail3 жыл бұрын
It's only dangerous either a) low altitude or b) poor pilotage
@brucekather47323 жыл бұрын
Small, but very stout airplane. Had to be to survive years of being beaten up by students
@gulfstream72353 жыл бұрын
150 is a piece of piss to spin, very stable, as is the 152. It's brother the 172 is even more docile.
@Blacktopcowboy2 жыл бұрын
😵 I want to be a pilot but this terrifies me
@JimForeman6 жыл бұрын
I was a CFI for years and in both airplanes and gliders and you can bet your boots that anyone I ever flew with got the full treatment in spin instruction. What the heck, I even talked an FAA check pilot into an inverted spin in a glider during a CFI recertification ride. The story is in my website, www.jimforeman.com Click on Flying and look for Short Tales
@lucifermorningstar61266 жыл бұрын
Who's this flirty instructor I'm a new 150 owner (25 year old Texan) and would love some "spin training" from her!?
@airplaneramp Жыл бұрын
WEEEEEEEE lol
@luiscavalcanti34313 жыл бұрын
Mommy’s doll horror short film is quite amateur. Ghastlier than the own story PS. I had to opine here due to comment section being turned off
@spruill77165 жыл бұрын
No thanks.
@markfox1545 Жыл бұрын
Interesting, the UK PPL doesn't require actually entering a spin.