CFL Game Winning Rouge Compilation

[@cflhighlights9370]

I found one in a highlight package from the second last game which I would've included if I had known about it when I made this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qp6wnIyLiJiKn80 0:00 2022 Toronto @ Montreal 0:43 2011 Winnipeg @ Toronto 0:58 2017 Saskatchewan @ Ottawa 1:18 1986 Toronto @ Edmonton 1:27 2023 Edmonton @ Saskatchewan Week 5 2:11 2004 Toronto @ Calgary 2:36 2019 BC @ Toronto 3:10 1989 Hamilton @ Winnipeg 3:33 1991 BC @ Edmonton 3:55 1959 Winnipeg @ Calgary 4:06 1980 Montreal @ Winnipeg 4:33 1987 Winnipeg @ BC

[@teo_heel]

Add this to description.

[@cflhighlights9370]

@@teo_heel Done!

[@KangaKucha]

Sir, can you do, snice 1964 when it came in after 1963, as many kicked balls that hit the post being dead balls? In my opinion, it's awful as they should be single point as well (the other team getting the next play at 45, now be 50) So to see as many examples of those plays that could have resulted in the kicking team winning the game (like in 2022: Montreal still won in OT against Winnipeg, but if my rule change happened, Montreal would have won by 1 w/o OT) than losing if you can 😊

[@cflhighlights9370]

@@KangaKucha I think it was 1974 but I can try to find examples, this is a rare play and footage from this time period is rare so I'll see what I can do.

[@KangaKucha]

@@cflhighlights9370 cheers mate I asked on Facebook months ago and this guy said that in Stemp 1963, due to a play being a live ball resulting in a TD, it got changed. He didn't say when but my guess it be the next season of 1964. However I originally thought it be 1974 too sir so no worries mate. All the best :) Matt R/S aka Kangiwii PS: let me know if you make a video as I like my rule change option to appear on it and argue the more Canadian Football is like Australia Rules Football (we do it as the Behind rule) and Rugby Football where Canadian came from and less like its American counterpart, the bloody better it gets! Agree? :)

[@teo_heel]

That single by Roughriders against Elks this season... CJ Sims didn't understood the rules, it was a perfect showing of how bad Elks were at that point.

[@badouplus1304]

@4:00 First time I see uprights like that, pretty cool the design has changed since then.

[@KangaKucha]

By the way CFL mates (CFL Highlights, CFLfan#31 I think, CFL, and so on) Thank you all so much for all your help for me and other CFL fans. You are greatly appreciated and honoured! 😊 Cheers/Santé Matt R/S aka Kangiwii

[@TheAseer2020]

This may sound strange but to me the Single is the most exciting scoring method in all of gridiron football.

[@cflhighlights9370]

I agree. Also when you are anticipating a field goal, but it's missed and you are mocked with a meaningless single point, I find that to be very hilarious salt being rubbed into the wound.

[@TheAseer2020]

I do have two technical question. When a single is scored is it considered a "scoring drive" I hear this term used when a touchdown or field goal is scored. Second, who gets credit for the single point, the punter, team, or no one? I think that I read that the punter does not get credited for the single.

[@cflhighlights9370]

@@TheAseer2020A scoring drive is just any drive that ends with a score as opposed to a turnover or something. In the CFL stats rouges are usually credited to kickers afaik, they have stats on most rouges in a career etc.

[@arcusmae]

​@@cflhighlights9370I have another question, there's a rouge scored after a kicker deliberately missed the FG and put it out of bounds at 0 secs to win the game. Am I interpreting that right? Also, does a missed FG have to be caught? I take it that it's live so it has to be received otherwise the kicking team can score a TD?

[@cflhighlights9370]

@@arcusmaeyes you’re interpreting that right, but it doesn’t have to be caught. For example in the bc edm one in this video, it went out of bounds without anyone having the opportunity to touch it.

[@wolfmanatlarge6506]

You'd think this would happen more often.

[@cflhighlights9370]

It happened a lot in the 60s and 70s, but not many games from that era have footage, and if they do, they probably weren't won on rouges. Here's a list I compiled of every one. docs.google.com/document/d/1dMUdXONRrguuPJbvJNYXUjJCLRCZBu8PvXbOrMEQXB4/edit?usp=sharing

[@TheAseer2020]

Question for all. Does anyone know of the best anwser for the orgin of the Single? I have read one hypothesis that its orgin might be in a game played at Eton, a Private school in Britton, the Eton field game. The single was adopted from the Brittish Rugby influence had on the evolution of Canadian Gridiron Football. True or not? From my understanding the Single is a bit of a mystery, with orgins in Brittish games

[@cflhighlights9370]

Yes, it’s true. According to a 1956 documentary a rouge in the Eton field game is scored by kicking the ball around the uprights and landing on it for a single point. Just like how a rouge is kicked around the uprights and the ball is not brought out of the endzone.

[@geoffroi-le-Hook]

In Aussie Football, a kick just wide of goal scores one point, called a behind. Sores are usually reported as Brisbane 50 (7.8), Adelaide 32 (4.8) with goals and behinds both listed.

[@ferrisreels66]

4:00 mark-- wow, was that game being played in Winnipeg's old Osborne Stadium, across from the Legislative Bldg?

[@cflhighlights9370]

No that was at Mewata in Calgary

[@Magic_beans_]

3:57 Old timey field goals look so casual. Guy just walks up to the ball and boots it.

[@253jacksonrhoads1]

How common are Rouges? I’ve been watching American Football for 35 years (I am 40) and this is the first time I have seen one or many performed. It’s a very intriguing part of the sport.

[@cflhighlights9370]

Pretty much once or twice a game I would say. If you go to the website CFLDB you can go to a season schedule for any year, and games from 1994-present have the scoring plays listed when you click on the game and go to "boxscore." Typically you'll see no more than 3-4 in a game, some none. You can also see how they were scored (punt/missed field goal/kickoff/etc).

[@kellydg471]

If you have been watching American Football, you won't have seen one. It is a rule exclusive to Canadian Football.

[@generalmoonstone]

One of the announcers for the BC Edmonton game seemed to be a little upset about the kick being missed on purpose.

[@cflhighlights9370]

It was a pretty anticlimactic ending to a great game in overtime

[@brentstwocents]

It was a briliant call by the coach. Not only is it the shortest distance to the back of the endzone, but you don't risk hitting the uprights and having a dead ball.

[@lemonator8813]

​@brentstwocents exactly! And it seemed like none of the players cared, they were stoked they won. That last kick by Lui has to be one other best punts of all time

[@FooFloyDon]

You need to update it with what happened to the Argos yesterday ;)

[@cflhighlights9370]

Yes of course! I have several games lined up for a part 2!

[@urusledge]

It’s called the rouge, and if I understand it correctly it applies to drop-kicks/punts as well. I actually kinda like it, wouldn’t mind it being introduced to American football with a minimum distance requirement. Would introduce a new dynamic to the game, and reaffirm the “foot” part of football in an era where all kicking plays aside from field goals are being devalued.

[@epicpika11]

Punts play a major part in American football too

[@urusledge]

@@epicpika11 they do, but only as a purely strategic move in the field position battle.

[@terryblake5076]

A rouge can be scored on a kick off as well. Have seen it.

[@thomasdinsmore5866]

In cfl if you intercept in end zone and tackled does it count as a rouge too

[@cflhighlights9370]

No, but it used to be scored this way in the early days of Canadian football. Nowadays it’s just a touchback.

[@Zoyx]

NFL needs this.

[@HalianTheProtogen]

IMO, American football needs the whole Canadian kicking game.

[@Zoyx]

@@HalianTheProtogen -Yep. I also like those onside punts.

[@montyharder3663]

NFL end zones aren't deep enough to give a full point for a rouge, but I think a fraction would be cool. How about 7/11 of a point? Deliberately making the denominator a prime means that unless each team scores the same number of rouges, ties would go away.

[@TheAseer2020]

Actually, the NFL has one rule that has it origins in Rugby, however, modern Rugby did away with this rule, and is very old. The CFL does not have this rule. It is the option to make a field goal attempt after, a fair catch/mark. Yes the NFL needs rule changes, however, it does have an old odd rule.

[@DNSKansas]

@@montyharder3663 What is so bad about a tie?

[@theculture1285]

Never watched cfl but they have odd rules imo but im here for it. Is it even possible for the defense to not concede atleast one point if the offense tries for a fieldgoal?

[@cflhighlights9370]

If they can get it out of the endzone it’s not a single point.

[@fortranwarrior8716]

It’s not that weird. It’s to reward the offense for advancing the ball that far and to encourage the defense to have to think about something besides just blocking the kick. The point isn’t a reward for missing: it’s a reward for advancing the ball. It only really makes sense because the the end zone is so big and the posts are on the goal line, where they should be :)

[@GregMcNeish]

@@fortranwarrior8716 Even moreso that the rouge not being a reward for missing, it's essentially a penalty given to the defensive team for playing it safe, instead of trying to make a big return play. It encourages special teams units to make special plays. And as a spectator, that's what I'm here for. I'm not a big football guy in general, but for my money Canadian football is far more entertaining to watch.

[@user-yg1dg6xm2g]

Why is #37 jumping up and down and looking ridiculous at 4:07?

[@cflhighlights9370]

Trying to distract, or preparing to jump over the linemen to block it…but yes very odd.

[@FooFloyDon]

The first clip (Als-Argos) is a weird call. Alouettes should have had the chance to run it out of the endzone so that the Argos can’t just decline the penalty and take the rouge. Or they accept the penalty and rekick.

[@cflhighlights9370]

@@FooFloyDon no it’s not. The Als caught it with a foot out of bounds.

[@FooFloyDon]

@@cflhighlights9370 oh my bad I missed that

[@cflhighlights9370]

@@FooFloyDonNo worries, commentators did a terrible job explaining!

[@flagtheoffense]

In the first highlight, why did he not even bother to try and get it out of the end zone?

[@cflhighlights9370]

He caught it with a foot out of bounds

[@flagtheoffense]

@@cflhighlights9370 oh duh

[@ironpanther2420]

4:51 "I am no longer economically viable!"

[@KangaKucha]

In my opinion, FG attempts should be done as far as 60 yards (not further). Unlikely to be successful for 3 points but could be a single or just like a punt attempt anyway. I think it's worth a risk desbite the dead ball BS (should be singles)

[@brentstwocents]

The problem with a long field goal attempt is if you miss the chances of a huge return (or TD) is too high. At least on a punt you have downfield coverage.

[@brentstwocents]

On the first highlight, the referees call the play dead before the Montreal concedes the rouge. Penalty or not the play should have been allowed to continue to conclusion.

[@cflhighlights9370]

Worthy caught it with a foot out of bounds

[@hrshy491777]

This might be the most embarrassing way to win. This would be like giving half a goal for someone hitting the crossbar in hockey.

[@cflhighlights9370]

@@hrshy491777 hockey is not a game of field position

[@SortaNonymous]

So unless I'm getting this wrong, I assume if you're a kicker and need just 1 point to win, then it's perfectly fine if you shank it as long as it's strong enough? EDIT: Right after I type this, I get to 2:11. So I guess you can shank it for the win! I guess [insert kicker behind infamous NFL missed kick of your choice] played in the wrong country!

[@cflhighlights9370]

Just need to make sure it gets out of bounds in the end zone and you’re good.

[@mikepalamino3011]

Rouge rule should be tweaked - kick should be fieldable in order for it to be awarded. Shouldn't be able to just kick it through the end zone, return team should be able to kick it back or return it

[@cflhighlights9370]

Might as well not be able to just kick it through the uprights for 3 since the defence can’t stop that either.

[@n0t0ri0us89]

This rule is the equivalent of chucking up a full court shot in basketball at the end of the game and getting awarded a point for trying. Seems counter intuitive.

[@cflhighlights9370]

@@n0t0ri0us89The point is not for trying. The target is the back of the end zone and they hit their target. You are not being rewarded for the fact that you missed.

[@n0t0ri0us89]

@@cflhighlights9370 yea I suppose so. I'm used to watching the NFL and never realized both leagues are basically 2 completely different games.

[@cflhighlights9370]

@@n0t0ri0us89Hey man no worries, you’re exactly who I make these videos for.

[@michaelschettig1613]

Why do teams even try the game winning field goal in a tie game? If youre close enough just have the punter send it out the back of the endzone

[@cflhighlights9370]

It’s hard to be close enough, and also because if you go for a field goal, the other team instinctively tries to block it in front of the uprights, so you can just miss and miss the block. It’s a good strategy. But a short distance punt has happened before for example thanksgiving 2002 Toronto/Hamilton.

[@stephenconnors7380]

What I don't understand is why even bother with a FG when a rouge will give them the game? Instead of wasting a guy as the holder, make him a blocker.

[@cflhighlights9370]

Well because punts are live, at least if it’s a FG it’s dead and you don’t have to kick it 20 yards further into the endzone or risk the other team bringing out. A failed game winning rouge on a punt has happened many times. But there are definitely some times where teams should just punt for the single.

[@HunteronaBudget]

Kicking it to the back of the endzone for a single point ahould be banned as it takes away yhe skill of the kicker to get it through the up rights, especially for a walk off game winning FG. Now tackling the returner in the endzone for 1 point should be kept.

[@santaclause3487]

Why not just punt out of end zone instead of kicking a fg?

[@cflhighlights9370]

They do sometimes, but a punt has to go 20 yards further than a field goal cause it had to go out of the endzone to be a guaranteed point, whereas a field goal is dead once it goes through the upright which is 20 yards closer than the back of the endzone. Also, if you do a field goal but have the intention of missing, the other team will block in front of the uprights whereas the ball will go around them. On a punt everyone knows exactly what you are doing. But again it has been tried for example Thanksgiving 2002 Toronto @ Hamilton

[@Devourer2000]

One for part 2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/poG5lpd5aLmZoq8si=R4bfjJsmggV6vf9E

[@cflhighlights9370]

@@Devourer2000 I’ve got a big list for part 2 and that one’s on there!

[@Devourer2000]

@@cflhighlights9370 I've seen many Ticat losses over the years. This one still bugs me.

[@cflhighlights9370]

@@Devourer2000I can see why

[@ryan10888]

That rule makes no sense even if you miss the field goal majority of the time it’s gonna go out of the back of the end zone you basically are just rewarding a team for missing a kick

[@kellydg471]

If you don't like the rouge, you are free to watch American football.

[@Reglar_Cat]

Goalposts on the goal line + 20 yd deep end zones make a difference.

[@drunkenmmamaster419]

Such a shitty way to lose a game 😂

[@cflhighlights9370]

Such a smart way to win though

[@KangaKucha]

Edmonton lose to Saskatchewan 12-11, Elks are fools as due to my fictional score, they should have won by at least 2 points. Idk about the other games but I bet most be like that. Yet in Saskatchewan beat Edmonton, it's a pure dumb luck win that almost got SSK into the playoffs that thankfully they didn't.

[@TheJinxCast]

No such thing as luck in sports. Either you win or you don't

[@richardsimmonsjuggernautof9781]

Incredibly stupid rule

[@cflhighlights9370]

@@richardsimmonsjuggernautof9781 Incredibly misunderstood rule

[@richardsimmonsjuggernautof9781]

@@cflhighlights9370 I understand it perfectly, it’s just Canadian nonsense

[@cflhighlights9370]

@@richardsimmonsjuggernautof9781 Not nonsense at all. If you kick the ball past the goal line you should get a goal.

[@surreydaprejident432]

This dumb rule is why no canadian watches cfl and watches nfl instead. Lol.

[@cflhighlights9370]

@@surreydaprejident432 No not at all actually, the reasons for the NFL’s popularity have more to do with its status as an entertainment business and their yearly revenue.

[@surreydaprejident432]

@cflhighlights9370 sorry let me rephrase that...this dumb rule is part of the reason no canadian gives cfl a chance. Facts. Eat em.

[@cflhighlights9370]

@@surreydaprejident432 It’s not a fact at all that no Canadian gives the CFL a chance. Most Canadians who don’t watch are unaware of the rouge entirely.

[@surreydaprejident432]

@@cflhighlights9370 cfl is garbage. Period. Imagine getting points for missing a field goal 😂

[@surreydaprejident432]

@@cflhighlights9370 cfl is trash man. A league where you get a point for missing a field goal.

[@commonsenserevolutionx1053]

Canadian Football is a real sleeper. What a boring way to win a game. I am a Canadian but have watched real football in the NFL since I got interested. Wish we'd get a team in the pros.....preferably Toronto.

[@cflhighlights9370]

Since this is an additional way of winning, that means every way you could win in the NFL is also possible.