CFP Rankings Reaction: How Brand Bias is affecting Indiana, BYU and Miami

[@JoelKlattShow]

Do you think brand bias is influencing Indiana and BYU’s places in the rankings?

[@MichSlam]

BYU yes but Indiana strength of schedule isn’t even in the top 100 that’s bad

[@CaseyByrd-yt5jo]

Big joel im 50/50 on this but want some pushback on 5 seed path of least resistance. How does a powerhouse sec or big10 not want that that end of the day.

[@alexlee4171]

​@@MichSlamMichigan's last year was 112th in the country

[@fastlanemoney8239]

​@@alexlee4171 facts and they won it all

[@Mannyfreshkidd66]

Why does brand bias matter teams should be rewarded for past merit sustained merit. No team outside of Bama has beat UGA in 4 seasons lol

[@JerryJ13]

If you flip Indiana & BYU with Penn St & Tennessee, I think would’ve gotten it right. Feels like they’re projecting rather than ranking the current teams, which makes it tough to move teams up and down later.

[@birwinz]

As a BYU fan, I like being disrespected. The wins are sooooo much sweeter.

[@lingerinlead80421]

@@birwinz great attitude! I hope y'all win the Big 12 and get the bye

[@andrewgygi1608]

You’re being disrespected by teams outside the Big 12. You’re going to get clapped in the playoffs

[@birwinz]

@andrewgygi1608 lol - magic 8 ball?

[@andrewgygi1608]

@@birwinz assuming they win out, they get the four seed. This means they’ll probably be playing Oregon or Ohio State at the five seed, who is significantly better than BYU

[@birwinz]

@@andrewgygi1608 are you certain they are better?

[@kobefan2395]

So an undefeated 9-0 Miami at #4 is too high but 7-1 Penn State, Texas & Tennessee aren’t? You’re saying Miami is a brand thats why they are ranked above BYU & Indiana but at least they are undefeated unlike those one loss SEC schools that you have no problem putting above Indiana & BYU. The double standard is insane.

[@cellamuert]

Idk if the bracket is fair, but every bit of it looks insanely fun. All four corners have great matchups

[@suites.74]

I believe that was the main driver of 12 team playoff instead of like 6 or 8. Just more fun games to watch.

[@exactopposite]

Nothing wrong with brand bias. You suffer from it yourself, Joel. Trying to tell us USC was for real after watching them play exactly one game.

[@andysmith9243]

Right😂 still asking for USC talk but he finally shut it down

[@chrispeters394]

Same with Clemson!

[@81moneeca]

I know like he try to tell us last week that michgan had a path to the playoff

[@andysmith9243]

@@81moneeca right? 😂

[@camheelis1004]

BYU have more ranked wins than Indiana , Texas , Miami and Penn state combined with a 30 point win ones number 19 Kansas state and defeating number 13 SMU on the road . Indiana can’t really complain as they have defeated 0 bowl eligible teams and have the 103rd ranked schedule even though I think they are a good team . If there only loss is to Ohio state they still might make the playoff whereas byu could have 2 great wins and finish the regular season undefeated and still not make the playoff is they lose their conference championship game . BYU should be the ones that are complaining . There’s bo way Indiana should be ranked above byu .

[@shobisness8629]

It ain't Miami fault their competition sucks

[@birwinz]

​@@shobisness8629Omg. This is the exact argument the G5 teams have been using for decades. If record is the only thing that counts no matter the competition, then army is in the top 5

[@danielregalado2745]

Texas beat defending National champions Michigan in week 2, ranked#10. Oklahoma #12 in week 7. Vanderbilt #24. Just sayin… the real brand bias is Oregon. They’ve had a weak schedule and only beat Ohio State by 1 due to a loop hole n the rules. What kind of coach thinks about how to beat the system to win instead of how to beat the team in head to head football?? Oregon overrated!

[@stanhawkes3569]

@@shobisness8629 It is their fault that they should have 2 losses against their sucky competition.

[@joseph6872]

⁠@@danielregalado2745it wasn’t a “loop hole” it was a clear rule in the sport at the time. He read the rules and understood said rules better than any other coaches. And don’t act like OSU didn’t get away with a clear interception call on the first drive of the game. Since the Boise game, Oregon has been firing on all cylinders winning by 35,21,21,35,29,21 with the exception of the 1 point win over OSU. Texas started off the season on absolute FIRE.. but have clearly cooled off with their 3 point victory over Vandy, and the week before they lost by 15 and were down 23-0 at half…. In Austin…

[@coyotestark3949]

How is Florida in the swamp a good win for Tennessee who barely beat the gators. But canes boat raced them in the swamp and it's not a good win?

[@drewfitness1112]

Good question… SEC always gets the benefit of the doubt, because they’re the SEC? 🤷‍♂️

[@PoliticallyIncorrect90]

Florida's close loss to TN was at Knoxville.

[@andrewmueller9986]

Because stupid

[@FreshWhips]

@@coyotestark3949 cause they be moving the goalposts to fit narratives 😂

[@Cashdro2727]

The game was in Neyland.

[@samclark3370]

LSU has absolutely no chance to jump Notre Dame since they lost to the two teams Notre Dame beat. Indiana at 11-1 drops behind Notre Dame. 2 loss Tennessee drops behind Notre Dame. It would take an insane miracle for Notre Dame to not get in.

[@quantumpotential7639]

Notre Dame 💪 2024 National Champions 🏆 🥇 Roll Irish

[@samclark3370]

@ Probably too many injuries but a healthy ND would absolutely have been good enough this year

[@ej3zx]

The fact that Army is ranked below Mizzou indicates that eye test isn’t really a factor

[@theread3480]

Let’s be honest with ourselves and recognize that mizzou would destroy army

[@billyyank5807]

They unfortunately don't play anyone.

[@ej3zx]

@theread3480 I watched Mizzou play Auburn and BC. There’s bo guarantee they’d win, let alone a blowout

[@evanhiatt5606]

@@theread3480Missouri almost lost to Auburn bro 💀 Auburn got blown out by New Mexico State at home last year and looks like the same exact team

[@stevenhossen1624]

Love your content Joel! But the reason why teams like Indiana, BYU, and SMU, are slow to get up in the rankings is because people do not want another TCU v UGA national championship. These blue bloods are blue bloods because they have a history of winning. When pit against these new bloods, they usually dominate. Clear as day.

[@crazcane]

Where is the brand bias for Texas Joel? Their best win is Michigan. They faced one team in their realm this year and got WAXED at home. Why so quiet Joel?

[@carterware9389]

Oh no Texas lost to a football team that is 49-4 in their last 4 seasons with 2 national championships haha they’re frauds wow imagine losing to Georgia

[@mansionman777]

I think #6 is a fair ranking for Texas. Who would you put ahead of them?

[@samclark3370]

Texas at least has a defense. Miami is a one trick pony.

[@RedRocket415]

@@carterware9389 True, but as a Texas fan I can say that the Vanderbilt game did not inspire confidence. Sloppy play. Mental mistakes. They looked shaky.

[@crazcane]

@samclark3370 The issue is Miami's 'one trick pony' keeps them in any game, against any defense. It's the great equalizer. What other team is down 28-17 midway through 3 and still cover 21 at the end of the game? Lol Also, the greatness of the Texas defense is irrelevant if Ewers keeps turning the ball over.

[@daneyoung395]

Alabama is not a top 12 team period

[@jtagsir3589]

If they beat LSU in LSU, yes they are

[@cesaramezquita_]

Bama will always be good 😂 and will always have a cfp spot regardless

[@swatisquantum]

Top 5 roster with a 1st year head coach bro. They’re stacked in talent but underachieving bc first year coaching is hard.

[@BigMouf]

If they’re not, Georgia isn’t either

[@danielbenjamin3084]

Boise State is? Bama would destroy them

[@pnut3844able]

Miami will line up with any team this year and have a good chance to win. There are no elite teams this year, and they've got the best offense in the nation.

[@rashaudmoore]

🤣🤣🤣

[@nate_johnson8]

Georgia would boat race Miami be real

[@musicbyTaraRose]

@@nate_johnson8 so would Oregon and tOSU

[@nate_johnson8]

@ Agreed 👍

[@jonasfarbo2661]

We should have kept a computer model while moving to a playoff. Then, with all its flaws, we'd at least have defined and consistent metrics for playoff selection. I don't know why a committee of administrators and executives was added upon the creation of the playoffs - The selection method of the top two teams wasn't the issue in the BCS era, it was the fact that only two teams were selected.

[@stevescheidjr4632]

The BCS also incorporated the human polls. I am curious what top 25 the BCS formula would show on this season.

[@cellamuert]

I agree entirely

[@cellamuert]

​@@stevescheidjr46321. Oregon 2. Georgia 3. Miami 4. BYU 5. Penn State vs. 12. Boise State 6. Ohio State vs. 11. Texas A&M 7. Texas vs. 10. Iowa State 8. Tennessee vs. 9. Notre Dame This was from eight days ago. So obviously there'd be some significant changes (PSU/OSU, TAMU, ISU) From SECrant

[@alexreichanadter]

I’m guessing the brand bias is really the talent composite. If a team has a low talent composite entering the season, there is more doubt when they have a weak strength of schedule. Indiana and BYU entered the season at 57 and 78, respectively. Now if IU only loses a close one to OSU, they deserve a playoff spot.

[@TheBulllets]

why does everyone think they gonna lose to osu? osu is def beatabale orgeon and neb proved that

[@kylewebb469]

To be fair Ohio state lost their starting left tackle first half of Oregon so couldn't run the ball the 2nd half. Used Nebraska game to try to figure out a way to run the ball for the Penn State game. But that being said they are beatable anyone can lose any week.

[@MrGeneric2011]

@@kylewebb469 ROFLMAO. Gotta love the ability to rationalize bad play.

[@kylewebb469]

@MrGeneric2011 Who has looked better than Ohio State not named Oregon?

[@TheBulllets]

@ Indiana

[@Prod_Xanta]

20:50 if Texas A&M passes Notre dame without Notre dame losing then there’s no point in playing the games

[@j-finn6746]

Not talking about the Penn St bias is crazy

[@tomhwm913]

Yes it should be Penn State vs Indiana or BYU rather than Indiana vs last year's Michigan/Georgia

[@Justyouraveragetrashcan]

Penn state still being ranked that high is insane 😒 they haven’t beaten a soul yet and lost at home to Ohio state and that game wasn’t even that close. They scored 10 point in the first 5 minutes and then scored 3 the next 55.. that’s not a good team.

[@fredb8969]

There’s nothing to talk about? The Miami, BYU, Indiana ranking positions are much more important and interesting. Penn State would be talked about if they were undefeated and didn’t lose their biggest game of the season…

[@FreshWhips]

Joel. Miami has covered 7 out of 9 weeks and has almost a 100 team difference in strength of schedule as you said. Why don’t you discuss their average point differential?

[@billyyank5807]

Because Miami plays no one. Not one ranked team. They played ball state and Florida a&m.....c'mon 😂😂😂 Miami is in a cupcake conference. No one is ranked except them. Get tf outta here.

[@drewfitness1112]

@@billyyank5807SEC isn’t that good this year. Use your Gators as a reference

[@MagicCityPhotography]

He can't it would ruin his weak argument.

[@Ermatinger503]

Miami was also gifted two wins by the refs. They’re not a real contender

[@drewfitness1112]

@@Ermatinger503 explain gifted? If you think Miami was gifted anything, you’ve been asleep for the past 30 years.

[@RockandRant1]

Hey Joel, who at Miami hurt you?

[@jgrub7]

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[@Newbgainer]

The logo on the helmet

[@frontier556]

Jon Beason

[@nathanburton3864]

Comparing ‘23 UGA and ‘24 Indiana is a joke and you know it. UGA had won 40 strait games, of course they had some brand influence. We don’t know these players on Indiana. There’s a difference

[@ScarletGray-o3j]

Indiana is 2020 levels of annoying. Remember the Indiana fanbase back then?

[@DustinSchoonmaker]

You compare Indiana to Michigan and Georgia last year, but Michigan and Georgia were both playoff teams the two years prior. Indiana doesn’t have that.

[@halfthe]

The placement just doesn't matter at this point. If you control you destiny, just win and you'll make it. This is true for BYU, Indiana, Boise State, each team will have a chance to prove themselves

[@noahrausch655]

“Just win and you’ll make it” is such a dumb thing to say after FSU was left out at 13-0 just last year

[@mike.armstrong92]

​@noahrausch655 and when someone like Army this year who, unless everyone else implodes, likely won't make it in even if they win out and that's in an expanded playoff let alone the old format

[@halfthe]

@@mike.armstrong92 army would absolutely be in if they are 13-0 Champs with a win over a 10th ranked team. They are 25 right now with no ranked wins. If not in as the 5th highest ranked conf champ, they'd be in as an at large for sure

[@stevencraven4897]

NO ONE controls their own destiny under this system. If 5 or all 6 of the "non-power" conferences went undefeated and all 4 of the "power conferences" ended up with 2 or 3 losses after conference championship week, we would still be spoonfed 4 Power 4 champions and only 1 "Group of 6" school in the playoff.

[@halfthe]

@@stevencraven4897 G6 schools can still get in as an at large. Look at Boise State, currently ranked ahead of 1,2, and 3 loss P4 schools before conference champs are considered. If army steps up and beats ND they'll be in the same spot.

[@richardgonzales4685]

Hey Joel great show again.Have been waiting a long time for the playoffs to come to cfb .It’s going to be great love cfb more than I do the pros can’t wait for it to start.Keep up the good work Joel and crew.👍

[@coyotestark3949]

Biggest Miami hater besides the Ruffino dude

[@bradybuschur5995]

Facts.

[@billyyank5807]

You'll see...it's all blah blah from Cristobal.

[@NeverFinishAnythi]

Miami is a pretender

[@garyco766]

Miami looks pretty suss. They nearly lost to unranked Va Tech, nearly lost (and should have) to unranked Cal, was losing late against unranked Duke, gave up 45 pts and nearly lost to #25 Louisville. They could easily have 3 losses and be irrelevant now, but here they are at #4.

[@chrispeters394]

@@garyco766should have would have could have. At the end of the day they haven’t loss and took care of business.

[@jackielusk6281]

I love when you so-called experts hate on Miami all of you keep Miami’s name in your mouth more than you do your own team. Keep hating please because a true hurricane fans love it.

[@JuliaBlum-i8s]

you talk about brand bias but don’t acknowledge the complete brand bias for notre dame?

[@jeoffbenzos4959]

In the past, the CFP committee has always asked "who have you played?" and "who have you beat?", basically SOS and SOR metrics. Then this year they just threw that out the window in favor of the eye test.

[@lhsfan100]

Joel you are the greatest and I am an old 77 year old man who enjoys your show very very much

[@jbjohnson4728]

Cheers for hanging in there for so long. I'm 47 and I hope to be enjoying college football thirty years from now.

[@quantumpotential7639]

Wow! 77 is a LOT!! You probably made it this far by never skipping leg day, am I right? 💪

[@mr_gb]

Last time people were arguing for lesser teams to make it into the playoffs..etc.. TCU was made an example of and Georgia set the record (at the time, still is, idk) for the largest sporting championship win of all time. Also, he uses Georgia’s season last year as an example. But, he conveniently didn’t mention that Georgia played two top ten teams and then a top 20 team right after that Florida game, and completely smoked them. I get he’s saying “at this point of the season”, but you have to at least mention that. Georgias schedule last year was not as easy as people make it out to be.

[@coreynelson9727]

People say that and I am in no way a TCU fan, but TCU had to beat Michigan to get to that game.

[@wesleyowens4089]

That's weird I remember tcu setting the example that they belonged by beating the 13-0 Big 10 champions (and huge brand) Michigan in the playoffs

[@mr_gb]

@@wesleyowens4089 yes, that’s true. But, I think my point still has some truth to it. Would not another team of had better odds of playing and beating Georgia that year? B/c is it the team with the best record or the “best” teams that get put in the playoffs. I’m also just curious for other opinions.

[@mr_gb]

@@coreynelson9727 ^

[@mr_gb]

@@coreynelson9727 trying to tag you Corey to see my comment above. But, from my end the comment keeps disappearing.

[@conmaz]

There is still some interesting games that could make big changes in the coming weeks. 😊

[@ZB_Snickers]

i think conference bias is against ND. a fluke loss but looked impressive the rest of the time. why isnt ND ranked up there with the big 10 schools? why are they only 1 spot ahead of the only 2 loss school in the top 10

[@Mel-py7no]

It was a very bad loss to a bad mid major school. The fact it was week 2, there have been many upsets that have allowed ND to be in control of getting to the playoffs. Not a hater huge ND and Marcus Freeman fan.

[@mr.nobody8181]

Well this is why we implemented the 12 team playoff. If BYU and Indiana stay undefeated they will 100% get in the playoffs and we can decide who's best on the field.

[@cameronheelis3486]

Someone was saying BYU should blame TCU for the disrespect they are getting by the playoff committees first ranking . TCU made it to the championship game defeating again Michigan team . It’s so weird people just ignore that win .

[@CigarsUnleashed]

Both Michigan and Georgia were also in the playoffs from the previous year and so started the season already ranked fairly high. So yeah there probably is brand bias but it also can matter a lot where the AP ranks you preseason

[@nathangibbons7382]

Absolutely right, Joel. Great perspectives. I do agree with everything you said....except for that #10 ranking for BYU (not sure how you can put them there and continue with the arguments about brand bias). Go Cougs!

[@zachduren8796]

The CFP isn’t about getting the best teams. It’s a product that is owned by ESPN. It’s a television product. Ratings are the only things that matter. So it will be difficult for smaller schools to make it in without winning their conference

[@canIeaturcarrots]

If you can't make it into the top 12 you're not one of the best teams lol

[@zachduren8796]

@ if you removed the logos and looked at résumé’s only Indiana is easily top 4. And I could not care less about Indiana. I’m a Texas fan

[@jwolf2254]

@@canIeaturcarrotsthat is not true at all. Army is the only team in the entire nation to never trail and they are ranked like 25

[@andysmith9243]

@@zachduren8796what?? They haven’t even played a ranked team 😂 they will easily get stomped by Ohio state and I won’t be shocked at all if they lose to Michigan. Definitely not a top 4 team we all know they will get smoked in a playoff game 😂

[@johnnywebb2351]

Agreed 👍🏾 💯

[@coyotestark3949]

103rd in strength of schedule...Come on man...

[@aaronsimpson1167]

As stated in the video Michigan last year were 113th in SOS and were ranked 3 in the first playoff ranking. Don't think you'd make the same argument for them

[@wasdqwe2]

Can someone explain to me why the SEC and Big 10 get 8/12 spots.

[@bc5208]

Best teams. Has nothing to do with conference.

[@Gorgothamon]

Because it just means more

[@BrentRousey]

Better teams and don't complain

[@timporter6424]

Because they were ranked to start the year

[@its_pat6267]

Because those are the best 2 conferences

[@NDreece]

His hatred for ND is really apparent at this point. If you don’t think ND gets in with 1 loss you know nothing about football.

[@jonesgilanthony]

Yeah. Klatt continues to hate Miami. It’s crazy because he kinda liked them earlier in the season.

[@billyyank5807]

Miami is trash. That's why. They've played zero ranked teams or any tough competition. Ball state? Florida a&m? C'mon. 😂😂😂😂 cupcake conference.

[@deeguwxp]

@@billyyank58073rd best SOR buddy. Clearly they’re good enough to be undefeated. Louisville and Florida were tough games considering Louisville lost by 7 to three ranked opponents and played at FL at the swamp, the same FL that went toe to toe with UGA with their practice squad and went into OT with TN. Quit nut hugging Miami because all these “elite teams” have played some inferior teams don’t hear you complain when TN whoops up on Chattanooga and Kent State.

[@andysmith9243]

@@billyyank5807you named the teams not in the conference. Every team has played easy teams. Miami is far from trash, sure say overrated but get your bias out of here lol.

[@chrispeters394]

@@billyyank5807they won at Louisville(who is ranked) who killed Clemson at Clemson

[@garyco766]

Miami looks pretty suss. They nearly lost to unranked Va Tech, nearly lost (and should have) to unranked Cal, was losing late against unranked Duke, gave up 45 pts and nearly lost to #25 Louisville. They could easily have 3 losses and be irrelevant now, but here they are at #4.

[@mcallarse]

Why isn’t the Indiana QB getting more recognition?

[@andysmith9243]

He’s good but tell us who they have played? Nobody.

[@markparker1353]

Gratitude for putting up that graphic with the 2023 Michigan Wolverines "Strength of Schedule" (11:40 - 11:45) and their 2 best wins being against UNRANKED Opponents!!!! I've discussed / argued with Wolverine Fans about how EASY their schedule was in their '23 National Championship Year compared to the other '23 Playoff Teams. I had no idea that their Strength of Schedule was so LOW (111th)!!! Besides Minnesota and Rutgers being on that '23 Conference Schedule........Purdue, Michigan St., and Maryland were other "perennial BIG 10 bottom feeders" they had the "comfort" of playing in 2023. Michigan's Out of Conference Schedule was also a "joke" in '23: Bowling Green - East Carolina - the 2023 UNLV Runnin' Rebels. I've said this before in this comment section: "If the '23 Wolverines had to play the schedule that the 2024 Wolverines are playing.........they would NOT have won that National Championship".

[@garyco766]

Their tough games were all end of year, like OSU. 4 of their last 5 games before the playoffs were against ranked teams. But 8 games in, yeah, it was horrible.

[@kennyc332]

Joe has a hatred for Miami ever since Beason destroyed him.

[@jeoffbenzos4959]

BYU passes the eye test if you just watch the 1st half of games. They tend to get up big then control the game and clock in the 2nd half. They're not blowing out teams even though they could. When they get up big they use the time to get backups some experience instead of running up the score for style points.

[@debomofia8858]

Say you hate Miami without saying you hate Miami

[@DallinGraham]

You don’t see any inconsistency in the ranking of those 3?

[@jeoffbenzos4959]

BYU has the same number of CFP Top 25 wins as the 5 teams ranked in front of them. BYU(2) IU(0) Tennessee(1) Texas(0) PSU(0) Miami(1)

[@Teejigga]

The Miami hate is real 😂 how pathetic this was a very bad take

[@mike.armstrong92]

He didn't say anything bad about Miami, his point was that Indiana and BYU aren't benefiting from the same bias that Miami is. He also didn't say Miami doesn't deserve to be that high, quite the contrary he said the other two should also be higher like Miami is. The fact you think this was a bad take goes to show you literally didn't listen to the take at all and instead just got defensive and shut down so the only pathetic thing here is you.

[@pwrhitterp]

@@mike.armstrong92Indiana hasn’t beaten a team ranked inside the top25 😂 their best win right now is Washington 😂😂😂

[@seancraven-tf6ec]

@@mike.armstrong92love it dude…..nice comment bro!

[@jameslee8366]

I’m glad someone that has a voice in the media said it. These playoff rankings are a joke

[@CoopDaddy305]

Who has Texas and Penn State beaten? Why not call them out instead of Miami? Do they have any wins over CFP 25 opponents? Nope, but Miami does! I might have to start believing that you Klatt dont like M.I.A.M.I.!

[@DaiyonYarmeto]

He’s a clown !!! They all have a narrative to push !! Right now it’s Miami and ND … but watch both of those teams beat their fav sweet hearts

[@thenorsegodsdiscgolf5751]

Dude is such a biased hater on Miami. Maybe it’s because they knocked him out many years ago. Miami is 4-0 versus the FPI top 30. All of the “bad calls” against Miami were the correct calls. People are just getting caught up in “indisputable” verbiage. What a surprise he loved the non Miami team in the ACC. How long til he falls in love with SMU? GTFOH. I will only come back when Miami wins a playoff game to watch his tears.

[@Ermatinger503]

The end of the VT game and the no targeting against Cal were not correct calls. Sorry to burst your bubble. Miami should have at least 1 loss and has no defense

[@thenorsegodsdiscgolf5751]

@ You are letting the hate cloud your judgement. If you honestly believe the VT debacle was a legitimate catch, then you are not objectively watching the same play as me. As far as the targeting play, I saw a shoulder to shoulder hit. Even if it was targeting, there was 2 minutes left on the clock and Miami had 3 timeouts. Cal had gotten many (0) first downs in the fourth quarter and likely would have punted after 3 more plays. Not to mention all the calls that didn’t go Miamis way. Nobody mentions those plays. There were several against Miami in both games. Listen, Miami has an elite offense. This is likely the best offense Miami has ever had. Sure, Cam is a stud. So is the OL/DL/WR/RB/TE position groups. We have an SEC type group in the trenches. Anyone saying Miami is overrated just doesn’t watch their games.

[@chrispeters394]

@@Ermatinger503”should have” well sorry to burst your bubble but they don’t. If you honestly think that VT and Cal calls were wrong then you’re just a mad fan of another team that’s not Miami.

[@garyco766]

Miami looks pretty suss. They nearly lost to unranked Va Tech, nearly lost (and should have) to unranked Cal, was losing late against unranked Duke, gave up 45 pts and nearly lost to #25 Louisville. They could easily have 3 losses and be irrelevant now, but here they are at #4.

[@thenorsegodsdiscgolf5751]

@@garyco766 and yet, somehow, they still could beat any team in the country. That’s what makes Miami a top 5 team. They can lose to a bunch of teams, but they are also good enough to beat anybody. Their offense is A+++++++ A great defense will not stop them from scoring.

[@timecone57]

Who wants to play nd this time of season?

[@quantumpotential7639]

Notre Dame 💪 2024 National Champs 🏆 💪 ❤️

[@Doritoboy44]

Love the show Klatt! But Jon Beason giving you your pilots license isn't a good reason to have this much miami hate

[@travismcadams]

Klatt always spits facts

[@af4224]

I don't know why Joel does not say the quiet part out load. The reason the brackets are messed up is the automatic qualifier conference champions instead of the 4 best teams. Those 4 brackets are set regardless of what the committee thinks. We need the 4 best teams. You could still keep the conference champs but even there a problem will show there at some point in the future.

[@brandonL18]

100%. The committee looks at the “blue blood” programs from the perspective of “prove that they don’t belong” and any other team from the perspective of “prove that they do belong”. It’s a gimme for the cfb favorites and an uphill battle for anyone else

[@Jueen_]

Just say you hate Miami

[@JaredSasser]

BYU just needs to stay focused and continue winning (and surprising people). The respect will come as will the ranking.

[@djyoung278]

lol we just keep winning and everything else will fall into place .. keep pumping whatever narrative yall want about us.. don’t see anyone really slowing this offense down.. no team has been dominating every game but we gotta be perfect in a win or yall act like we lost🫢🫳🏾🫳🏾🫳🏾

[@RoadTo19]

Joel, I believe the claim for brand bias against Miami doesn't hold water. Today, The U is simply predicted as the ACC winner and thus has to be in the top 4. #roadTo19

[@garyco766]

For seedings, not rankings. Miami looks pretty suss. They nearly lost to unranked Va Tech, nearly lost (and should have) to unranked Cal, was losing late against unranked Duke, gave up 45 pts and nearly lost to #25 Louisville. They could easily have 3 losses and be irrelevant now, but here they are at #4.

[@sampleelpmas]

you’re spot on with BYU and Miami but you’re crying brand bias against indiana when they haven’t beaten anyone (their fault for scheduling 3 cupcakes) and they don’t have the NFL talent on the roster that Michigan and Georgia had last year

[@RafLpz]

I think it’s good spot for Miami matching up better. Miami has a better chance vs bigger talent. They struggle vs smaller faster talent and more spread offenses.

[@calebhamon5484]

I think we’re confusing “brand bias” for talent bias. Not saying talent bias is good or should be swaying the CFP, but I think that’s more likely what the issue is.

[@kamonra1]

Klatt I know your bias towards Miami , but this was a good one. The only reason Mich got in last year, and they are G'n Indiana right now.

[@hunter24seven]

I think Miami deserves a top 5 spot. They have the #1 offense, a top 20 defense drastically. Miami is ranked #1 in 3rd down efficiency and their defense is ranked 12 in 3rd down defense. Miami gets a lot of hate from former players in the media out of envy.

[@garyco766]

Miami looks pretty suss. They nearly lost to unranked Va Tech, nearly lost (and should have) to unranked Cal, was losing late against unranked Duke, gave up 45 pts and nearly lost to #25 Louisville. They could easily have 3 losses and be irrelevant now, but here they are at #4.

[@PGCNFLMO]

Such brand bias! I’d totally put Indiana & BYU above Miami! Miami is only 4 because people want them to be 4 even though they’re not! Just let me say that they are playing in the ACC! The conference is so weak and Miami is barely beating average or bad teams. Maybe if they can even make it to the ACC championship and get beat by SMU people will finally see that they have no defense and their schedule is almost AAC level! Thanks for the show Mr. Klatt

[@johndavid4072]

If they win the Conference and beat SMU in the championship game in which SMU almost beat BYU . It's undeniable and Indiana will lose to OSU . 😂😂😂

[@Comicbookyoutubersrock]

Indiana's strength of schedule is 103rd in the country, Miami's is 46th. Facts over your biased opinion, and Miami has had a much tougher schedule. As far as barely beating, VT is a very solid team, definitely not average. They almost beat Syracuse and with a backup QB as their starter was hurt. We clobbered Florida, the same Florida who should have beat Georgia if not for losing Lagway. We lead the entire game and beat a now ranked Louisville, and ultimately we beat the spread and handled a Duke team with one of the best defenses in the country. Scored over 50 points and double the points than any other team has. As far as the ACC being weak, they are literally on par with BYU's big 12. It's the SEC/BIG 10 and everyone else, but Indiana has the weakest strength of schedule in their conference, and they're going to lose to Ohio State. Their only tough game.

[@andysmith9243]

Stats don’t lie, Indiana has played literally nobody.

[@jmac4765]

You want to talk eye test. It’s not just offense. BYU’s defense stifled SMU for much of that game. SMU has been scoring at will against everyone, but at home they couldn’t solve the BYU defense.

[@drewc771]

For me, BYU is the only real issue. I had Indiana 7, BYU 5, Miami 4. Miami does have the highest SOS of the 3 based on computers n power ratings, not people. Miami won at Louisville, won at Florida. And even Duke is higher rated most places than any1 indiana has beaten yet. I di think the argument of miami/byu is a closer call, but indiana should be behind both, imho.

[@DallinGraham]

This is my favorite take so far

[@rjhoward1925]

Indiana has had a cupcake schedule and came out of nowhere this season. They still need to prove themselves. That's just the nature of the game. Respect is earned. Let's see how they fare against Ohio State... If they play well I'll jump on the Indiana train.

[@curtleonard4687]

Great show. Appreciate you taking on big brand bias. Problem is that it will continue until they come up with an autonomous way to determine teams in the playoffs. BTW. Take the Ducks to cover on Sat 🤣

[@drewdozerthaprophet9568]

Having Texas and The U legitimately competing for a national championship is great for cfb. Go Bucks! ⭕️🙌🙏⭕️🌰🌰🌰 Beat Purdue!

[@TonyM132]

If you think brand bias against #8 Indiana and #9 Brigham Young is so clear, then how do you explain both of them being ranked lower yet in the major computer rankings? Sagarin currently has the Hoosiers 12th and BYU 21st, while Massey has them 11th and 12th. They are by definition unbiased, assuming their preseason rankings are no longer part of the formulas, which I believe they aren't by now.

[@kanyehess33]

How do we go about fixing the committee and their biases tho?

[@ericwalton3406]

Miami strength of schedule 45. Indiana 103 🙃. I will hear the BYU argument considering they beat 13 SMU. Brand bias is Alabama being in over SMU. Brand bias is Penn State being 6th with no good wins. Even with Indiana's weak comp they've looked much better against it than PSU

[@MichaelSaline]

Finally, somebody telling the truth thank you, Joel!!! The appearance of inclusivity, but the agenda, pushing things is still the same!!!

[@IsMoKeDgRaPeS]

If Indy played @oreg and @penn st, then we could talk. Let’s see when they play top teams if they perform the same.

[@drumsofberk]

IU in 2020 was 6-0. Ohio State was 5-0. They picked Ohio State to win the division and go to the Championship with one less win let alone one less game. There is definitely brand bias in College Football.

[@GrittyTigs313]

I can’t wait for this fascination with Indiana to end. They haven’t beat a single team that is currently bowl qualified.

[@ChristianFoucrault]

Good comments as always

[@cannon5041]

We've been hating on Miami since the start of the season.

[@bradbecker8982]

I have tried for weeks now to watch Joel Klatt.. and every time I always end up feeling like the substance is missing from his points. Robo Klatt

[@rotorbro]

I agree with you about BYU and Indiana… BUT you work in the entertainment business Joel. Big brands sell. It’s all about the money for these networks including yours. If you want Indiana and BYU higher up with a better chance of making the semi-finals, it’s going to affect you and your show. Again, I don’t agree with it but it’s the reality.

[@r3d646]

I get your point but there is a 0% chance that a 1-loss ND team with 4 ranked wins does not get into the playoffs in the 12-team era.

[@brandenrule3123]

What about all those undefeated Boise State teams of the 2008-2012 era’s? With weak schedules and winning by more the 20 points or more, but they were G5 so that’s different then Indiana with a 103 ranked SOS since they are in the Big 10?

[@AfroThunda999]

Being undefeated and not opening the playoff at home is wild

[@garyco766]

That won't happen to anyone except maybe Army. Indiana will have to beat OSU to remain undefeated, and if they do that they will have to beat Oregon in the B1G championship game to remain undefeated. If they do that, they get a bye and a home game (and probably a #1 ranking). If not, they won't be undefeated.

[@kitjenson]

Context matters. They should be weighting games later in the season more heavily. I'm not sure how to do this numerically, but teams change so much by years end with injuries/confidence/players swaps/etc. Week 1 matters sure... but it's clearly not the same as week 12/13. This is why these fist ranking matter so much. Where you start often dictates where you end. A team ranked 9th losing a game almost certainly drops them out of the top 12, but #3 losing likely results in staying in the field of 12. Prime example is BYU in 1984... their lone National Championship... they beat #3 Pitt in week one. This vaulted them from unranked to #13, they won out against a mediocre schedule and took the championship. Pitt finished 3-7-1 that year. An objectively bad football team. it didn't matter, the damage was done in week one.

[@Zinter1984]

The flaw with this format from the jump is that the #5 spot might be the best draw, even with the extra game.

[@pnwadventurer802]

These positions are guaranteed to change multiple times

[@B34STBOY12]

I truly feel the first four seeds deserve a home playoff game in their home stadium instead of at a neutral site. Reward the fan bases!

[@itsunclebaghdadi]

Nah I think the bye works. We’re already getting a lot of extra games due to this 12 team playoff, that’s a lot on the players.

[@tomhwm913]

I think there's too much panic regarding Indiana. This ranking really tells us they don't put too much against losing to good teams. Ohio State is still at No.2 after a 1 pt loss to No.1. And most importantly, if Penn State is still at No.6 after a home loss to OSU, then bottom line Indiana should not drop from their current No.8 spot if they lose to OSU in Columbus unless they got blown out. In terms of BYU, I don't think their fans would have too many complaints. If they win the conference, they'll be the 4th seed regardless of being ranked 3rd or 10th. If they can't win this weak Big 12, they shouldn't be in the playoffs anyways. This is the tradeoff of having an autobid through conference champion. You can be in a weak conference and get in and get a bye by winning it. At the same time if you're the best team in a weak conference but can't take advantage of the conference champ, then you shouldn't be in the playoffs. Same goes for Miami. So at the end of the day, the issue is about Miami, not Indiana or BYU.

[@ORLOSTguy]

Brand Bias. So, what you're really saying is the problem is the rankings and CFP committee. Since the BCS era I have been lobbying for college football to change its structure to four Power Conferences. This would include a commissioner; balanced schedules and no games played against non-Power Conference teams. Each conference has 16 teams with two divisions of 8 teams. Conference Champions go to playoff and get a homefield advantage in first round. Conference runner up get into playoff and play against a different conference champion. So basically an 8-team playoff. Notice what is missing? No rankings needed. No committee needed. CFP determined on the field.

[@orangecrushhex]

Brand bias plays a factor, but I'm not aware that BYU and Indiana have played any ranked opponents this year. If I'm wrong about this, please let me know. Certainly, this held up Michigan last year from being ranked higher until they beat Penn St. and Ohio St. This isn't the players or coaches fault, but it is what it is.

[@theninchilla]

Indiana hasn't really played anyone yet, but they do play Ohio State soon. BYU beat #13 (at the time) Kansas State 38-9, and beat SMU on the road

[@nothingpersonal1000]

BYU beat SMU and K-State, both teams are currently ranked

[@BMLocal374]

Onward Notre Dame

[@harryhondo1013]

Not sure BYU has this opportunity, but IU can beat OSU in Columbus, then go to the B10 championship game for a chance to beat Oregon. IU still can play themselves to the top.

[@joshahlstrom2764]

I feel like it would be tough to rank BYU at 4 below the ACC champion, if that champion ends up being SMU who they beat in the regular season.

[@ScarletGray-o3j]

Indiana hasn’t beaten Ohio State since 1988. This is 2020 levels of annoying.

[@ORLOSTguy]

Indiana would have one apparent advantage. Home field for the Big10 Championship game. Although, if you've seen the "Ducks Vs Them - Are You Not Entertained?" video here on KZbin, Oregon has the right mentality to face "The Arena". If Oregon is healthy then they beat Indiana by several scores.

[@ArchAngeLs777Gaming]

Great video! Agreed 100%. The good news is these teams will be able to help themselves down the stretch: - Indiana beating Ohio St. will flip those two in the rankings. - UGA winning out will drop UT down some with another loss, but then likely bumping Bama since they won head to head - BYU winning out, beating a ranked team in the Big 12 championship - SMU beating Miami...repeat...SMU beating Miami. Did you see how bad they beat Pitt? Its a good bet they will light up Miami's D. And of course they lost to BYU which helps BYU's resume. - added bonus...I'm not sold that Texas will win out, especially playing A&M on the road. They have to win that game or they likely get bumped from the playoffs.

[@andysmith9243]

In no world is Indiana beating Ohio State….

[@timothycunningham3983]

FIRST RANKING! THINGS WILL CHANGE AS MORE GAMES ARE PLAYED. AND IT WON’T TRULY MATTER UNTIL THE END OF THE SEASON. OVER REACTION!

[@Victor.A.]

Comparing the bracket matchups now is pointless. This is all gonna shuffle over the next 5 weeks

[@williambarger8468]

Preach Joel Preach...The clowns on the committee make me want to 🤢

[@WhyYouWahYoo]

I’m a Michigan fan, but if Indiana beats us this week I’ll be cheering for them the rest of the way! I think they’re capable of beating Ohio State and/or winning a playoff game

[@rockerfarm6445]

You wouldn't If they lose to you? I thought you'd hope for them to take down OSU in general and represent the conference well in playoffs

[@WhyYouWahYoo]

@@rockerfarm6445oh I would, I just meant that I’m not cheering for them this week. I phrased that badly lol

[@VerifiedBarz]

A Michigan fan thinks Indiana is capable of beating Ohio State?! NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@robbywagner590]

same

[@jeffcolling9569]

Cheating not working well this year lmfao

[@danielclark5586]

The eye test is interesting. When you have a schedule like Indiana the eye test is great like High School play against little leaguers. Let us see them play three or four rated teams like the other teams in the top 10.

[@garyco766]

Well, they'll have to play OSU, and, if they beat them, Oregon to stay undefeated. So we'll find out ow good they are soon enough.