Model Railway Signals at Chadwick Model Railway | 104.

[@simonbradshaw3708]

Another enjoyable video, I so look forward to Friday's. Thank you for taking the time to put it together for us.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

What a heartwarming comment Simon, many thanks.

[@gilesforrest3945]

Hi Charlie thanks for all your hard work in producing these very enjoyable and informative videos very enjoyable indeed.

[@patrickspeaight9154]

Your explanation on blocks, on the signaling video, was good, and focused. Thank uou. Patrjck

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you found it interesting Patrick. Regards Charlie

[@kevinheard8364]

Wow!! I didn't know the "cycling" of the lights ... thanks!!

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you found it interesting Kevin. Regards Charlie

[@OPHYCLIDE]

"Top shelf signals" Haha! That'd be a different 'signal' entirely from model rail!!! Thanks for your reply on the other video re: the hymek sound conversion. Much appreciated. Cheers, -Jon.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you found it useful mate. Regards Charlie

[@thehobbyistden3720]

Good thing you put up this video about signals....I totally forgot about planning signals into my layout blue print!

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Well that’s a school boy error I’m afraid. It remains a fascinating subject though. Regards Charlie

[@metrafaze]

...and this ladies and gentlemen is why I would not model anything steam! Well done Charlie! That took some explaining! Very educational!

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it Richie

[@fircombehallrailwayoogauge1430]

Love the fact you can’t always find stuff! I do the same all the time. Buy stuff thinking / knowing I will use it one day and then it disappears. Excellent basic explanation Charlie - thank you.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that it’s a video that you could relate to, regards Charlie

[@jimross623]

Hi Charlie, I was quite surprised to hear the former Speaker of The House Of Commons had started a company making model railway signals. Good for him. Perhaps when you want to buy one he will say “Order! Order!” Jim

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Was that a berk or a berko!

[@regurin1]

Take no notice of the vultures I enjoyed this in a way I can understand so thank you

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks mate I’m so pleased that you found it interesting

[@garypollard9736]

From a retired train drivers view, your explanation at the start is almost straight out of a ‘driver training’ first day introduction to signals .. spot on. Great simple explanations for the average train modeller, which is all that is needed. The double headed colour light signal can also be used as a junction signal, with the, LH signal for the left route and yes, you’ve guessed the right hand one for the RH route. These were used in the Gatwick - Three Bridges area in the 70s. They were rather scary when bowling through a curved platform with a non stopping train, and you saw the red signal before your green.. something I never got used to. Thank you for another great video.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Great comment Gary, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it.

[@silkytrack8091]

Thanks for clarifying this. Old style signals have always baffled me! 👍👍

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

You and me both ST

[@colinrimmer789]

And I thought it was only me who puts stuff safely away and then can’t find 🤣😂good vid Charlie.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it Colin

[@derekmulready1523]

There's a safe place in every house, mine is where "she who must be obeyed" put it, but can't recall where, and I should know . Irish modeler

[@TATICMOOR]

Sorry Charlie for being late, but its better than not being here at all, LOL. Anyway, a super Signal tutorial and suggestions of kits etc. I was a bit confused about the use of them, but you clearly explained them and how they work and the info that they reflect to a driver on the lines. Cheers and a pleasure to watch your videos for information etc.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

That’s very kind of you to say so John.

[@thomaswalla4210]

You are a real good teacher! Now iI understand for the first time the principle of the british signals thank you for your clinic!

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m here to help Thomas. Regards Charlie

[@martynbuzzing3327]

The thing is Charlie, it's vids like this that explains stuff and makes sense of something that has eluded some of us. Thanks so much

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks MB, you’re too kind, regards Charlie

[@tonypotts1644]

Just catching up. Enjoyed this one as usual. It's those senior moments that are so reassuring. The item put aside for safe keeping and now can't be found, sounds about right. Well I'm sort of on my way, I've finally bought the wall insulation for the old garage that will be my train room!

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Go for it Tony, regards Charlie

[@stevenrowlands8506]

Always look forward seeing and enjoying your video so till next Friday

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Stephen you’re too kind. Regards Charlie

[@deputydog73]

Charlie, Greetings from Dallas, TX. I had a small train set as a boy and now, more than 30 years later, I am planning to build a layout in my garage. I must admit I am nervous, maybe even a bit scared, of how this will turn out. Your videos are very helpful and informative. I especially like the fact that you don't try to speak over the viewer's head. I look forward to more videos from you. Have a wonderful weekend. Larry

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Larry, what a heartwarming comment. I do hope you can build a successful layout, but remember don’t go too big too early. Regards Charlie

[@bl7355]

Absolutely top shelf! Phwoarrrr 😘 Excellent video. Simply put forward information, correct & complete 👍

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it BL.

[@modeltrainstipsandtutorials]

Hi Charlie - purchased one of those soldering stations, unfortunately mine packed up after an hour of use - soldering droppers on to a helix - sent it back and got a refund. Purchased one from a different manufacturer and this is working fine. As usual very good and informative video - thanks.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so sorry to hear of your misfortune with the soldier station, do keep me posted on its replacement. Regards Charlie

[@szabados1980]

Fun fact: Siemens implemented electric train detection using insulated track at the end of the 19th century. It was used to detect the passing of trains at the very end of most travelled routes. In lack of national electric grids to take electricity off of, these interlocking machines used inductors and batteries. And of course, if they had to wait too long for the train to pass, the battery went flat and the train went undetected which caused extra headache to signallers.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Great comment GS. Stay safe mate, regards Charlie

[@Captainpubwatch]

Hello Charlie, thanks for another great video - despite what you say at the start I don’t think anyone can take issue with your understanding of signals. Your demonstrations make perfect sense and illustrate the principles really well. I’ve been a signaller myself earlier in this career and what you’ve said sums it up nicely! The part about your MRC and the infrared element really isn’t that dissimilar to the real thing, certainly where I am traditional insulated track circuits have been phased out over the years with train positioning being used instead of train wheels on the track. Moving on a bit further we’ve seen a more dynamic system of train tracking with the CBTC (Communication Based Train Control) system coming in (even more similar to the infrared approach) - though being described as a moving block system the blocks you describe still remain. In the case of CBTC they’re tiny mini blocks of 6.25 metres, so small that for all intents and purposes (and without fixed signalling) could be seen as moving block in a practical sense. Great video and a great introduction to anyone looking to learn about signalling and how to make this a feature on a layout. Wishing best for now Charlie : )

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks CPW, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed the video. Regards Charlie

[@dilwich]

Cheers Charlie - You simplified what i thought was a subject to complicated to even bother attempting to understand.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m sure there is still an enormous amount to learn on this modelling nightmare

[@HumancityJunction]

Charlie, thanks for another great video. Do not worry about all the people that have other ways of doing things, or think that their way is right. If you ask 10 model railroaders their opinion on how to do something, you will get 25 different answers.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Well said HJ.

[@rafaelvoncina6036]

Thanks for shining a light. A nice overview. And thanks for keeping the fun. Top shelf.... I promise not to be late next week. Wishing you a lovely weekend.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks RV, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it

[@MrTimTech2022]

I always look forward to finishing work on a Friday, having dinner and then putting my feet up and watching the next installment from Chadwick Model Railway presented by Charlie. Charlie - thank you yet again you have explained Block Detection in such an easy to understand way. Here's looking forward to the next installment and me learning something new again! Thank you Charlie!

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

You’re far too kind Tim, and I’m so pleased that you enjoy my videos. Regards Charlie

[@christopher-2000]

awesome video ii love semaphore signals their really awesome i own a really old specatical semaphore plate and arm i got it from my friend who works on the railway when they were getting rid of it on the railway line

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

You’re a lucky man Christopher. I wouldn’t mind a couple of those signals myself. They would look great in my railway room mounted on the wall.

[@christopher-2000]

@@ChadwickModelRailway im planning to restore my semaphore and build it back to a working semaphore signal to put it in my Garden

[@charleymartin9422]

British Railway Signalling, an Ian Allan publication, written by G.M. Kitchenside & Alan Williams. A must for anyone interested in signalling.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

A great tip CM.

[@graemehannam3950]

I have that book it’s a great read

[@johnpapworth433]

Ahhh good old Yeovil Pen Mil, an odd station I never visited often when I lived there - Mainly I went to Yeovil Junction

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

It’s an interesting Station, there is not a concrete sleeper insight. Also, nothing but semaphore signals which I find rather reassuring. Regards Charlie

[@DAVIDJGLOVER1952]

Excellent Video Charlie and very timely for me as I'm at the stage of wanting to put some signalling in myself. Your explanation of how the signalling works has really helped me better understand the basics. Given me some great inspiration to get started on this now as well as making me confident about going about it. Cheers

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

What a kind comment Dave. I’m so pleased that you found the video useful, good luck with your project, regards Charlie

[@thomaslamb2526]

Brilliant! Had been wanting something as an introduction on signals

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Thomas, I’m so pleased that you found it interesting, regards Charlie

[@Dbcxyz123]

I learned a LOT watching this.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

And I learned a lot from researching it too, regards Charlie

[@nickbishop6784]

Ughhhh Signals have just got to be one of the most mind numbing and confusing aspects of model railways. Thanks for giving this a really solid crack Charlie I appreciate your time and effort. However my head is still in a spin. Nick

[@mikeburnitt403]

Try it on the big railway, we have Absolute Block with semaphore or colour lights, Track Circuit Block with Semaphore or Colour light, Radio Electronic Token Block plus others I dont get involved with, all as clear as mud.

[@szabados1980]

Oh come on, you don't have to jam everything into a single layout. Just like you probably don't have Eurostar, a complex yard with a hump and a cogwheel line on the same table.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

We rise to the challenge gentlemen

[@andrewstevenson5449]

Ah, yes. The safe place we all put things. I'm sure all safe places are somehow linked, and somewhere there's a massive safe place where all the stuff we can't find is hiding. Great video again. Top shelf signals made me smile too.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it Andrew.

[@ldifalco2010]

Love the tutorial on the white board of the new and old signal blocks and how they work. Nothing like a visual as far as I'm concerned. Well done!

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it Lewis. Regards Charlie

[@adnalm]

Well done for this video - very brave because railway signalling is an often neglected subject; not helped by the secrecy seemingly maintained by those in the know. But I'm not here to rant! May I offer some comments, intended to be helpful... Almost all railways that used semaphore signals started with Lower Quadrant; it's just that the GWR never progressed to Upper. The upper Quadrant type was deemed safer in the event of a break in the rodding or snow holding the arm down! The easiest way - by rule-of-thumb - to identify home and starter signals, is that the home signal allows a train home to the station, and a starter signal allows the train to start on its journey. Again, rule of thumb, outer home and inner home can exist (in that order after the distant), and then platform starter and advanced starter. But every rule has exceptions. One observation that may be helpful is that when the feather lights up, it does so before the aspect clears. This is to prove that the driver will see the correct aspect. The 10:30 feather is called Position-1, 09:00 Position-2, 07:30 Position-3; then 1:30 Position-4 and so on. So the signal that you were describing that you wanted would have positions 1 and 4. But yes, well done and keep up the good work!

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

A constructive comment, many thanks.

[@brooklynjunctionmr9470]

Great vid, learnt more in this than all the other trawling through tinternet!

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

That’s a great compliment, thanks BJ

[@davidsheriff8989]

Great stuff as usual.....old signals as a kid were either up or down, A - B - C still used today with high speed trains, well done Charlie

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it David.

[@haroldalexis4200]

Hi Charlie. These introduced products & demos sold me. Your presentations and railroad prototypes beautiful. On your layout thru out the video I like the design of the stone archway and trackage road bed, very nice! Thanks for this it was so educational. 🙂🚥🚦🚄🚃🚃🚃🚃🚄🚉

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Harold, what a heartwarming comment. Regards Charlie

[@Simonize41]

As a signalman I chuckled at some of your explanations during the first part of your video.😉😅😇

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Now now Simon, play nicely.

[@wimdelange6019]

Hi Charlie, good morning, thanks for sharing your knowledge and the comprehensive information in your great videos with such a variety of themes 👍👍👍 I already used a lot of samples in my own model railroad environment!! Have a nice day stay healthy with season greetings from a small village in the Netherlands. Cheers, Wim.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

That’s very kind of you to say so Wim. Regards Charlie.

[@maxcowell3920]

Always a pleasure to watch your vlogs - a great model railway you've got there, incidentally

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Max, you’re far too kind, regards Charlie

[@finmedia]

First pun 37 seconds into the video. Cheered me right up. Right, best get back to watching the rest of it!

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

You know me, here to please

[@bobbowen65]

Yet another very decent video Charlie.I personally didn’t realise the true extent of the signalling system - just thinking of stop / go for where two lines join into one, etc... Many thanks and already looking forward to your next video...

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Bob, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it.

[@davidgreenwood5160]

Loved this one. You managed to explain home and distant in a way even I could understand.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks David, regards Charlie

[@rawright34]

Thank you. I have never got to grips with signalling, most informative, even the fact of why some signal are up for go & also down for go, I never knew why. Thanks again Rob.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you found it interesting Rob, regards Charlie

[@jimsmoter4510]

I must admit Charlie I’ve been a railroad fan and modeler most of my life but know very little about signals and what they mean . . Enjoyed the lesson on signals Charlie . Thanks

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Jim, I’m so pleased that you found it interesting as I did doing the research, regards Charlie

[@steveyates2091]

Very enjoyable and well explained ... very well done mucker ! Thanks Steve

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it Steve.

[@davidblincow8012]

Thanks Charlie. Much appreciated and very helpful but also perhaps a little daunting. As the systems develop six month university courses could be the norm on how to set up, wire and program the systems!!

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

David I'm so pleased that you found the video useful. Regards Charlie

[@willp358]

We hey its Chadwick Film Day. That'll brighten my day up!!!!

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

55 minutes to go!

[@cedarcam]

For the basics of signalling you did well. Signalling a layout is something many avoid at all costs, it is good to see you have inspired some to get started on their layouts. One thing about the feather you demonstrated, it always lights first and is proven to be lit before the signal can change from red. This ensures that if the feather failed to illuminate you would not get a driver thinking their train was going along the main line and suddenly finding it was turning off over a low speed junction. Train-Tech make very good colour light shunt signals which can be wired as either old or new style, as for the main ones I use the Berko which I find are a lot better for night time running as there is no light bleed to the unlit aspect.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Great comment mate, mant thanks.

[@peterbolton8130]

Thank you Charlie for again supplying just in time info. Best $/month patreon I pay. Keep up the good work. PS I wont be late...promise LOL

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Peter, what a heartwarming comment. Thank you for your ongoing support of the channel, regards Charlie

[@garyedwards9722]

Hi Charlie. Basildon MRC has had a GWR exhibition layout called Kadeleigh for around 14 years and it has working signals, including ground signals, controlling the exits from the goods yard loop. All signals are interlocking and will not show a clear route unless the points are correctly set. Great video as always.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

That sounds like a thing of beauty Gary.

[@garyedwards9722]

Chadwick Model Railway Thanks Charlie. Featured in July 2011 Railway Modeller 👍🏻

[@marktowers8569]

Well done Charlie you have done a grand job of explaining track circuit block (tcb) and the one with the boxes is absolute block. Keep up the good work 👍 Stay safe

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it Mark

[@trainmanbob]

I neve cease to be astonished how a small layout like mine can require so many signals. When you hving working signals made for you the cost can be astronomical. I don't know the cost of the original signals but Iam holding my breath on this one! The guy who made ours was the same guy who made theexquisite signals for Liverpool Lime Streeet. Great video as always Charlie. Cheers, Bob

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Yes they can be rather pricey Bob. Regards Charlie

[@wheezypalacemodels7726]

That made a lot of sense to me Charlie...thank you, regards, Chris

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Chris, I’m so pleased that you found it interesting.

[@bionicgeekgrrl]

A good introduction to such a complex subject that is often overlooked. You covered most of the main options, though model signal engineering available from wizard models are well worth considering for the semaphore signals and have a extensive range covering all of the main companies and some of the more unique too. The range is also of use if you want to kitbash or scratch build your own signals and they offer gantry options i believe. If people are interested in learning more about signalling, then the signalling record society is worth a look. They offer a extensive library of diagrams and information and run open days usually at their kennilworth archives.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m pleased that you enjoyed it. Signals are a nightmare subject to cover and not all comments were favourable!

[@bionicgeekgrrl]

@@ChadwickModelRailway they're both complex and simple when you think about it really. The complexity is the route and block control, especially at complex junctions such as borough market junction (the junction where trains from charring Cross, cannon Street and London Bridge meet and diverge). But a simple track plan is not overly complicated when you understand how things work as you described well in your video. You can effectively discount 2 signals (distants i think, my cohort in model railways is the signalling expert! ) as they can be the other side of say your tunnel at each end. Then a case of working out what movements need to be accomplished and controlling accordingly. A little simplified, but it is a basic way to look at it. Those who give negative feedback are free to operate their own layout how they want, if you want to operate it accurately (especially if you have gone to the expense of detection and automation!) Then go for it and I look forward to seeing the results.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Great comment, thanks.

[@alaricnickless5360]

The minefield that is uk signalling through the ages,,,,, don’t envy you trying to pull this one together in a week 🙃Nice to see the various options from suppliers available and how well they operate, been tempted with the train tech offerings and having seen them operate, you have me convinced. Wonder what next weeks offering might be already. Watching your weekly video is the official start of my weekend.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

What a heartwarming thing to say AN. Have a great weekend mate, regards Charlie

[@brucenelson7451]

Another simple but brilliant explaination of a complex subject, well done Charlie.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Bruce, you’re too kind

[@ianstrachan7668]

Blimey. The 2 signals I've just found in my 60 year old collection are worth more than I thought! Thanks Charlie...really interesting. And from viewing some of your previous videos again, now realise I need to think seriously about how I set up my layout...having old locos/DC control; and invested in DCC equipment with small number of new locos,....oh, and that Triang series 3/4 track needs converting sections if I connect to Peco Code 100! Every video of yours is a 'school day' !!

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Blimey Ian, Triang Super 4. Those were the days.

[@ianstrachan7668]

@@ChadwickModelRailway shame they never set a standard for rail height! I'll be grinding metal for months !!

[@spence812]

Thanks Charlie. Another informative and interesting, (and for me, confusing as I know nothing about signals really - until now!!!). At least I dont have to worry about this until much later. Thanks again, I really enjoy learning from your channel. Regards, Spence.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Spence, I’m so pleased that you found it interesting, regards Charlie

[@thebritfarmer]

Thanks for this video. I think signalling is a mystery to a lot of us so this has definitely shed some light on the subject and given me some food for thought.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you found it useful Scott, regards Charlie

[@alanhaynes4576]

In Queensland Australia the signals are based on British practice. For Semaphores they are read from top to bottom then left to right so the left most signal would mean the line furtherest to the left. Their is also an Outer Home signal which is used where a siding might be built outside the home signal. In this instance the Distant signal would be moved further out. The Starter is usually used at the departing end of the platform or where a yard may connect to the mainline. There was also an Advance Starter which was used where the platform was not at the end of the station limits and would give permission for a train to depart a station or yard as far as the next signal which would be the Starter. We use the British modern signalling today with 4 aspect colour light and Junction or Route indicators. They are the lunar lights that are set generally at 45 degrees to the main signal but for multiple routes can be 45 degrees below horizontal, horizontal and 45 degrees above horizontal and can also be on both sides of the main signal giving the driver the option of up to 7 routes. They are read in the clockwise order starting with the lowest set of Lunar lights on the left to the lowest set on the right. Also in normal practice with 4 aspect signals the 2 signals behind a train are held at stop (red) to ensure a train cannot overshoot the red signal and hit a train in the next section. The procedure of keeping 2 red signals behind a train is for safety. Of course their are more types of Semaphores and Colour light signals. But I will not go into them here. How do I know this? Because I shunted with Queensland Rail for 22 years and then spent over 9 years teaching Drivers, Guards, Station Officers and Shunters to shunt. What you have shown is the basics and you have done it very well. Good job Charlie.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

What a fascinating comment Alan. I have never heard of the two red light signals before.Which seems very logical on high-speed routes. I shall check it out but I’m sure we don’t use that system in the UK. Regards Charlie.

[@alanhaynes4576]

@@ChadwickModelRailway Perhaps I was not clear on what I said. When I said 2 red lights I mean that if you have blocks A, B, C, D & E. Then you have a train that is in block C. A train entering block A cannot progress into block B until the train in block C has fully moved into Block D. This way you always have at least 2 red signals between trains heading in the same direction on the same line. Of course the demand for trains to be closer in peak hour running has meant exceptions being introduced. A train can be brought immediately up behind another train by the use of a Flashing Yellow signal. It requires the train in the rear to approach the signal of the block it needs to enter and we shall use Block B from the example above. It must come to a complete stop at the signal. Once that happens the signal at the entry to block b will change from Red to Flashing Yellow. It is the Yellow between the Green and Red that is used. This advises the driver that the next signal is at Stop and there is a train immediately beyond. So what this means is by using a 3 or 4 aspect signal they can get 4 or 5 signal indications. Now I do not know if they use a flashing yellow in the UK but as we have taken our system from you I would think it is likely. Other states in Australia of course use different systems from different countries.

[@alanhaynes4576]

Hi again Charlie, I wondered about the flashing yellow after I had mentioned it and so had a look on the UK railway signaling wiki page and found you not only have Flashing Yellow but also a Flashing Double Yellow so you are one up on us for now. Here is the wiki link so you can read from there: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_railway_signalling

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks for the clarification Alan, now it makes perfect sense.

[@IamRobotMonkey]

Thank you for doing this. I've always been woefully ignorant, not just about how real world signals operate, but also what's available for the modeller and how it's used/installed. You've certainly enlightened me, so once again, thank you.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

What a heartwarming comment RM. Regards Charlie

[@TheCrazyhorse1876]

As per usual Charlie another great video and yes I did know about the old lever signals.You slipped the "plonker" bit in very professionally too,but as a DC man my lights went out when you started talking LSD so it's a case of Iv'e got Friday on my mind - The Easybeats stay safe

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Robin but I do need to make the video is suitable for both breeds of modeller

[@nigelcarter9503]

Great article, Charlie.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Nigel.

[@RobA500]

Very informative, you certainly won’t be shot down by me as I’m a complete novice and I’m sure any signals that eventually end up on my layout will be completely wrong.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m sure that you’ll crack it Rob

[@NicholassTrainChannel]

As always Charlie great video before watching this i always thought that signals would go in front of points but when you explained the signal positions in the diagram you drew up it made a whole lot more sense to me the next installment on my layout will have to be signaling and this video has been a big help thank you Chadwick model railway. cheers Nic

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

What a heartwarming comment Nic. I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it, regards Charlie

[@2H80vids]

You're not wrong about the points though. Virtually any set of points on normal running lines will be protected by signals. A simple way to look at it: absolutely *anything* a train needs to do has a signal for that purpose. Without points/junctions, signalling is pretty straightforward, as Charlie explained. It's when the train has choices, that's where it can get complicated. Oversimplified but, half of signals are to allow trains to do things, the other half are to *stop* them doing things. If there are points though, there should be signals of *some* sort, except in goods yards and even then............. 😁

[@Chucklesrailarchive]

@@2H80vids Depends what era you are talking about. There were many main to main crossovers that were not signalled often in station platforms. These were used mainly for engineering work or emergency use and they were not signalled. Just depends how detailed you want the modelling to be.

[@2H80vids]

@@Chucklesrailarchive While you can find a "prototype for everything" and there are/were many oddball signalling installations, a fairly good rule of thumb is: a passenger train will only make signalled moves. While special instructions might allow a goods train to be moved under a hand signal, it would take an emergency situation for this to happen with a passenger train. From a modeller's point of view, one useful "workaround" could be the flag, shown from the signal box. Too small to model accurately(or is it?) it could account for a passenger train using an unsignalled crossover. Another thing often forgotten on a lot of layouts: wherever possible, facing crossovers are avoided on main lines. When possible, a trailing crossover with ground signals will be used. A facing crossover will, nine times out of ten, be fully signalled. As you say though, engineering works/emergencies can cover a lot of anomalies, as can modellers' licence. Few people have the space to signal their layout "properly". If an oval, with no points, is to have a signal box, it needs signals, and few layouts have the space to leave correct distances between a distant and a home signal. Like everything else, it's what the modeller is happy with, that's what's important. If they want to do it as properly as possible, there are plenty of books/websites out there to help.😁

[@thegrowler-blackwoodngauge]

Hi Charlie - very enjoyable video. CR signals is where I get my N gauge signals. The guy will make you anything and configure the signals to suit your junction layout. Hope the "vultures" aren't too hard on you - your explanation was more than satisfactory - top of the class sir ! Cheers Euan

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thank you and, you’re too kind, regards Charlie

[@gaschaves]

Good night Charley and thanks for the videos you have shared, it has been insinuating a lot, until tomorrow.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Gabriel, regards Charlie

[@iangoodman7395]

Thank you Charlie for another excellent video. In all the years I have been associated with railways signals and signalling have never interested me, mainly because I couldn’t understand them. But with your great explanation I will look on them now in a new light.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it Ian.

[@briansmith9946]

The essential 'aspects' of a complex subject nicely and correctly explained, thanks Charlie.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it Brian.

[@irvinelindsay3814]

Good dit Charlie. The whiteboard explanation of 'signalling for dummies' (that's me) was spot on. Might even say top shelf, no I mean top drawer! More next week please.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you found it interesting, regards Charlie

[@kevinmartin1065]

Top shelf, think you made a boob there! Great video as ever. 😂

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

My boob Kevin! Ops.

[@samuelives20]

That makes me feel better about signals. A very well thought out video, very clear. Thank you Charlie

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

You're very welcome Samuel.

[@rowanm4074]

Gday Charlie great video as the train driver myself you explained block detection and signals really will You are right there is a few more signals out there then that but all in all mate you covered most of them well the high light of my Fridays keep them coming looking forward to next one good job mate

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Praise indeed Rowan. You’re too kind, regards Charlie

[@dan8400]

Well done Charlie. Another entertaining video. I even learned something new! I really enjoy your videos and you always raise a smile or a laugh. Good stuff, please keep them coming. Thanks, Dan

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Dan, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it

[@paulwilson3083]

Thank you Charlie for the effort you put in to make and explain this subject, there is nothing worse than seeing a layout where every possible minute detail is thought of and researched only to find there are no or wrongly placed signals or no loco crews, you have explained the basics of the subject well, as an ex BR signalman they feature strong in my garden railway , semerphores with some colour light distance as it's set in 1966. Thank you again Charlie for posting.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

That’s very kind of you to say so Paul.

[@matthewwren1177]

Yet another great little film! I don't know if you know of them but a great model kit & model component company you maybe interested in is 'Wizard' they do signalling mainly semaphore. They manufacture all they sell and they often have stalls at model events and they have a website. The kite and components they do are mainly high quality brass. Wizard has much much lager range than all most anyone else including Dapol. In recent years they have taken on model coach kits and coach components. It's well worth looking at there website or/& look at there stall in my opinion.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Mathew that’s very interesting, I’ll certainly check them out.

[@matthewwren1177]

@@ChadwickModelRailway www.wizardmodels.ltd/

[@darrenrogers7891]

Another great video charlie.... Excellent.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Darren

[@martinwelsford1353]

Good explanation of function and use of signals Charlie. Just the right detail. My own signals previously saw service as corn flake boxes and do not move. Happily our hobby is that flexible. By the by I've stood on the footbridge at Castle Cary many times to enjoy the view. After the train has left and the passengers have gone it becomes a sleepy rural scene where the only sounds and birds and wind. Lovely.. Watched all the video but think I'll stick with my corn flake signals.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

An excellent comment Martin thank you, regards Charlie

[@garthjunor3027]

Thank you sir, for your correction. My struggle welcomes any and all support. Local supermarket has an express lane which has a sign "12 items or less service", but to make things worse they do not enforce it, despite my protestations

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I Wonder how many comments I would’ve had if I hadn’t entered the correction?

[@garthjunor3027]

Don't bother too much about us old chalkies - it's ingrained in us.

[@davidstokes8441]

I always considered signalling a dark art, to be avoided at all costs. Your 27 minutes of clarity has inspired me to have a go. Thanks Charlie.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

What a heartwarming comments David. Thank you very much, regards Charlie

[@Knappist]

Great help Charlie well explained thanks 👍

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you found it useful mate.

[@wibbleJunction]

Another fantastic video, very informative, comical and entertaining. I absolutely loved that shot at the end of the viaduct 😁😁

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Chris, I’m so pleased that you found it interesting

[@srduke]

Hi Charlie. Excellent video on a subject close to my heart. I decided that I wanted 4 aspect signalling on my layout but was vehemently opposed to paying the price for commercially produced signals when i required two dozen of the things. Cranked the 3D printer into life and made my own. Was easier than I thought it would be. I also sorted the electronics for driving the LEDs so that they operated as per the full size automatic signals. Using a type of track circuiting too rather than a sensor that tells when the loco passes the signal. Obviously, time was a factor to be considered. It took me some time to develop the electronics and then there was the time constructing the signal heads and soldering the PCBs that drove the signal LEDs. At the end of it though, I had the satisfaction of knowing I'd done it myself, and at a fraction of the cost of buying in a system. Very rewarding.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Wow, what a great achievement. That could be a lucrative cottage industry.

[@rogersea6529]

brilliant idea about a 3d- printer - would be great to see a video of yours producing the signals - I could be very tempted

[@barrywest8944]

Thanks Charlie another well put together video.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Barry, regards Charlie

[@chrislockerby1411]

Cheers Once again I Love these Video's got worried when i logged in at 1205 hrs and it wasn't there but it soon came up. As always very informative in a Friendly way. I usually watch these when I'm up in my loft working on my Layot `but it gets hot up there Got some more Houses for my Layout so I've been fitting Internal Lighting to them. Keep up the good work Charlie

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you found it interesting Chris. I always schedule the videos to appear at 12 noon, regards Charlie

[@redbank542]

Thanks Charlie. I’ve not got as far as signals yet and was somewhat confused as to the use of ground signals. (I have a packet somewhere!) Now I have a better understanding.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you found it interesting mate.

[@SimonLivertonCentral]

Brilliant explanation Charlie, I am relatively new to the model railway World, still trying to understand terminology, your videos help considerably...Simon

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Glad it was helpful Simon.

[@mac760]

Great stuff Charlie , I only had a vague knowledge of signalling , you've helped me immensely . By the way " top shelf " is perfectly correct , it usually refers to the place where the most expensive drinks are kept behind a bar !

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it Graham. Now stay out of the bar

[@mac760]

@@ChadwickModelRailway 😀

[@jamier9627]

Very informative video about a subject that can become very complex, just finished signaling my own railway using a combination of all of the signal types you reviewed. all of which are operational. I used color light signals for the ones i could see the front of from my operating position and semaphores for signals that i could only see the back of as you can still see the position of the arm . Which i think you will agree makes sense as you don't want to spend money on working aspects and then not be able to see them.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

A very interesting point Jamie, which makes perfect sense. I may well use semaphores at the branchline station.

[@CAPNMAC82]

Excellent vid. Signals can be a rabbit hole that goes right through Alice's Looking Glass. And, for head scratchiers, the Canadian & US signals are without equal. They have three lamps, except for when they only have two, except for those with only one; ground signals which are always one lamp, but might be two. (The semaphore signals require a tenth-level Wizard, especially the ones with blades and lights.) For modern era layouts there's a mix of automatic lights, as well as dispatcher-controlled, just to turn a person into a newt.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

A nightmare, is the only way that I can really describe it, regards Charlie

[@gregoryhale2202]

Charlie it is a pleasure to support you with a small contribution each month to help you produce high quality informative, interesting videos which gives us the pleasure of watching them each week..This video was all three...High quality, informative and interesting along with your relaxed presentation....Thank you Cheers Greg

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

You are far too kind Greg, and you make me blush. Stay safe out there mate regards Charlie

[@chriswalker2858]

Well I think I actually understood that! Nice one Charlie. I have books on SR signals but haven't managed to wade through them yet! Looking forward to next week's instalment, stay safe 😎

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Chris you’re far too kind, regards Charlie

[@leonardlea8740]

A good explanation of the different types of signal. Like you I like the quality of Train-Tech signals, which are very easy to install. Keep up the good work Charlie!

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks Leonard, I’m so pleased that you enjoyed it

[@JB-ek4yx]

Very informative video. I've been into railways for 35 years but never known what the different type of semaphores mean until now, despite my local station being controlled by what's possibly Britains most impressive remaining semaphore system to this day (Shrewsbury)

[@patmcdermott4832]

Amazing that a large junction like Shrewsbury still has semaphore signals and rod operated points & probably the largest lever operated signal box! It was featured on a recent TV railway series and is a superb piece of engineering design. Crewe Heritage Centre has the preserved working model of the old CREWE NORTH Junction signal box and is well worth a visit if in the area. Website;- www.crewehc.co.uk/attractions.

[@JB-ek4yx]

@@patmcdermott4832 Yes it amazes me that it's all still mechanical too. Network fail keep saying they're going to replace it all but thankfully they haven't got round to it yet. Severn Junction box at the South end of the station is indeed the worlds biggest operating mechanical box, so big that I can see it from my bedroom window! I do like the heritage centre, nothing better than sitting on the viewing platform on the roof of the old signal box with a cuppa watching the action at the North end of the station

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Yes we really do need to hang onto our heritage. These wonderful pieces of engineering shouldn’t be forgotten. Regards Charlie

[@medwaypeninsulaMR]

Hi Charlie another informative video and I use the TrainTech sensor signals as they are the easiest for me to set up as i just poke them through my Peco code 100 track !!!!. Also I have the DCC Concepts Ground signals although I have not installed them yet....Cheers Kev

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

Thanks for sharing Kev, I like them too.

[@tomlawton7087]

I think there are two more. First is the calling on signal, which allows a second train into a block (eg at a station). And the other is a banner repeater (black bar on white background) that show the next signal that may not be visible until you are close (often used at bridges near stations, where a short train doesn’t use the whole platform, and cannot use the normal starter signal.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

I know Tom but I had to draw a line somewhere. It could have been 2 hours long!

[@tomlawton7087]

Chadwick Model Railway Yes, please, Charlie, 2hours of your dulcet humour would be great. Do you do stand-up?

[@wolvertoncentresidings5676]

Hi Charlie, thanks for your video and explanation of basic signalling procedures. On the subject of gantry's I believe scale model scenery do a range of laser cut ohle gantry's which can be used for signals. On the west coast mainline ohle gantry's often have the colour light signals fitted above the wires sharing the gantry.

[@ChadwickModelRailway]

A good point Steve, many thanks.