Bruce Lee could NOT fight,, and this did NOT happen…

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Chael Sonnen talks Bruce Lee on this episode of Beyond the Fight
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[@kevinunderwood4720]

No shit he couldn't fight. You do realize this has been known the footage has been out there for +30yrs. Karate is hardly a real fighting style. Mostly show

[@superbar]

any cooking videos?

[@ultimatescapebro]

Lose the glasses Chael, you look ridiculous.

[@PokerFace837]

Ok bubbles, Bruce can’t fight 😂

[@magatrumper]

Chael is 100 percent right,steven Segal lol

[@brandonpotts54]

Bruce's biggest contribution to martial arts was he was one of the first to say hey in real life this shit isn't going to work. He pretty much said someone who studied wrestling and boxing for a year could beat a black belt in traditional martial arts. I think he had a firm understanding that martial arts and fighting were not mutually exclusive and that's why in my opinion, he is one of the original philosophers MMA even if he wasn't aware of it. The things he was starting to figure out then, we take for granted today when comes to understanding fighting vs martial arts.

[@Killacam1992]

Very true but he also was one of the first to realize you could take things that worked best from different martial arts and combined them into one ultimate style which is now known as MMA today.. but he was a martial artist for the movies and tv not for real life and he was not a real fighter but don’t tell his fans that, they get so butthurt.

[@joediffy]

Well put!

[@ibewillow]

Yay, i found a thread that is full of factual statements that isnt full of fanboy retards.

[@soramirez5473]

as a wrestler, I fear grapplers the most.. strikers, including boxers, are hit or miss and if you miss me, i'm breaking something.. better hope to get that quick KO cuz if you dont, im taking you down every single time. Bruce Lee did say that wrestlers and grapplers are the best discipline.

[@joediffy]

@@soramirez5473 I'm a kickboxer but I totally agree, my son was a good wrestler and BJJ guy he practiced striking but he won his first 2 MMA fights by taking his opponents down and submitting them. Wrestlers have the advantage of dictating where the fight goes, that's a big advantage.

[@Justice_Hammer]

“Bruce, you are an immigrant from Hong Kong, I’m a gangster from America” 🇺🇸

[@calvinhu8214]

Bruce was born in America

[@airplanebuilder8685]

Born in SFO, grew up in HK.

[@murdamonk]

San Francisco

[@batboy555]

Are you sure you want to go do that road?

[@timothychichetti347]

🤣🤣🤣

[@chediablo2809]

Look Bruce Lee stated himself that a real fight is not like the fights in his movies, he said that a real fight is not choreographed and is not predictable as it is in the movies!!! He deserves credit for applying elements from boxing 🥊, Muay Thai, wrestling, judo 🥋, jui-jitsu, etc If it wasn’t for The UFC and The Gracie family, we would still be guessing what really is effective and what is not, luckily our generation knows what really works and what does not!!! That being said, Bruce no doubt would have loved Vale Tudo and MMA, he’s a legend, he was into fitness and not just a couch 🛋 potato 🥔 he lived and breathed Martial Arts 🥋!!! I will leave it at that….

[@mrscaryfox3955]

What are you on about, ufc just proved that juice is all you need just inject shit into yourself to be bigger and stopp on others, no rules to stop you

[@joshuasmith6346]

People love to trash bruce lee. You put bruce lee in the future give him 2 years of solid training with the best guys and bruce lee would destroy everyone in his weight class. Dont think ppl realize his speed and strength and fight IQ. Quentin Tarantino talked smack in once upon a time in Hollywood, Bas Rutin talked smack about Lee, Chael is talking crap. Bruce lee was an innovative genius who went against tradition of the Chinese to train everyone and was the 1st to say there is no one way to win a fight

[@JLOCC23424]

@@joshuasmith6346 Exactly he was the world's best fighter and obviously people are going to find any excuse to say he couldn't fight or that he wasn't all that. They just hate him cos they ain't him.

[@joshuasmith6346]

@flat out heck dont forget bruce lee fantatically trained non stop. He was a mad scientist when it came to training. He would've picked up on it so fast. Guarantee he'd be holding his own.

[@daebak7370]

@flat out heck bruce lee had a mastery in martial art ability in such amount of time eg. Technique timing precision judge of range/distance combined w/ otherworldly physical prowess incredible hand and foot speed incredible power from a 130 lb man great strength for man of his weight/stature nimble fluidity in his movement great reflexes. The only thing we don't really know of bruce is his chin and his heart/toughness. There are fighters littered all over in boxing and ufc with mediocre technical skills but still get by with tremendous heart toughness and chin.

[@benephelps]

Getting accidentally kneed in the groin is common when rolling. I have been accidentally eye-poked, and all kinds of other things like that. Just kept on rolling. What did stop me dead in my tracks: 5 point palm exploding heart technique, kamehameha blast, hodoken fireball, and the worst was when the guy turned into a magical dragon, bit me in half while shouting “fatality!”

[@hydrolito]

Playing a video game is not real life.

[@bb-phantom3324]

Don't forget the Glow from "The Last Dragon"

[@thediaz07]

@@bb-phantom3324 that's ones real.

[@sarnol8973]

almost makes you wonder why he didnt just turn into the dragon at the beginning of the fight

[@thesnailiscoming..5736]

@@sarnol8973 hmmm 🤔 good question. 😂

[@bigheadrhino]

At this point it’s irrelevent whether or not Bruce Lee could fight. What’s important is the impact he had on martial arts and on people all over the world. He had a special kind of charisma.

[@johnnieblades]

Exactly. Thanks for making that comment. I find it sad and toxic to shit on a dead man that did so much for MMA

[@comfykeegs]

He also had a unique impact on the sweat glands in his armpits

[@Joe-bt1vm]

Whats important is it gave us a 13 minute masterclass from uncle

[@koachsavage1639]

Well said

[@theoutsiderjess4869]

Facts

[@philharrison2498]

Didn't think it was possible Cheal you could get any funnier but dang this made giggle all the way through. "Why would you go into a dojo n kick somebody in nuts, why?"

[@tristenewer5278]

Honestly, the way he was dragging certain words out, "Buuut whyyyy, whyy would he dooo thaaat, nobody does thaaat!"😂

[@bradn.2287]

Lol

[@jamesbond_AMK]

Bruce Lee was an ACTOR. And NOT a fighter. Really a JOKER from China.

[@thesnailiscoming..5736]

Whyyyyyy

[@IronReef77]

Lol this shit was fire. Hilarious video

[@rocknrolladventures]

Chuck norris himself has said bruce was the real deal and would have been dangerous in competition

[@MilitantX1]

He did and so did Jim Kelly. The reality is that Bruce Lee didn't need to go the route of competition to get notoriety as the others. They needed that but Bruce didn't. Good for Bruce Lee!

[@TheLocknload1]

Enough said . When a multiple time world champ says you're legit.... You're legit

[@npc3po301]

Of course Chuck and Jim's gonna keep the myth flying, why shit on their gravy train? as long as Bruces legacy is intact so are theirs by association

[@jimjohn9041]

@@npc3po301 yeah chael sells people scams on every video…kamikoto knives…established titles…same company. Dudes a loser

[@Priaperos]

@@npc3po301 EXACTLY!!! Why don’t they get this? Of course his buddies-and those who profit from the folklore-are going to keep the mythology going. AND … prime Chuck Norris is amateur-level today.

[@advancedchiropractic667]

I raised 2 wrestlers. There are levels in wrestling to, but these are ones that wrestle in college. It is something to witness national level and college wrestlers train. Why so many do well in MMA.

[@chrisgarcia6098]

Chael's tone in this video made me laugh so hard "whyyyy? Why would you do thaaaat" 😂🤣 I'm dead

[@comradecarabao9122]

😂 He poured some real emotion into this one. 💯

[@SwampCityRadio1974]

We're all dead. We are death.

[@rt-wz4zp]

Tone as in Tony? 🤣

[@chrisbirch4150]

Chael's Tony? That pool cue bit was hilarious. Is he super dead pan or does he just get wound up in a funny way?

[@Iliek]

His voice is nasaly, whiny and unmasculine. You need to be devoid of testosterone to appreciate such a voice.

[@robtomben]

I told my wife about my time in kids and high school wrestling, about the work and weight cutting and everything. She asked me if it was fun. I honestly never once thought about that. I guess it was fun when you got your hand raised and then got to eat something.

[@MrJonjonoo7]

For me it sucked... but knowing you could do something and push yourself thru something so many people quit... that was fun for me. Sometimes reminiscing... they were good times. Coach telling you to go run... and not knowing for how long.. practice could be over 545 or 730... we never knew. Sweating thru 3or 4 shirts a practice, not eating for days and then planning your post weigh in meal. Running after practice to cut a little extra weight, being so exhausted after practice falling asleep with my face in a book... Man those were good times... lol

[@robtomben]

@@MrJonjonoo7That's true. Seeing the masses show up for the first practice when you've been there for a month of pre-season. Then by February it's a dozen or so left. Your practices sound like ours. The condition you had to be in for six minutes of wrestling is insane.

[@zaynes5094]

@Jon Lassalle I quit but I quit because I hated the other guys (and even the twin girls on the team, one of which beat a bunch of guys to go to sectional finals and lost in a close one) and I hated how I sucked so bad. I wanted to be dominant like Bo Nikal. I was a smaller guy who bumped up Sophomore year to 152, and I did do good (went 15-5). but I still hated, wanted to be like that guy. The guy who could pin anyone from any shoot or angle.

[@elosoguapo8137]

It was work that had some fun things about it. It was fun being with all your buddies at the tournament and on road trips. It was cool doing well at a tournament or having a big dual meet. It wasn’t fun cutting weight, doing spin drills, getting skin infections, and getting your ass kicked. Ultimately Fun isn’t the most important part. Wrestling is a lesson in how to handle adversity. It’s something you have inside of you for the rest of your life once you’ve done it.

[@robtomben]

@@elosoguapo8137 Well said!

[@MattyDemello]

Bruce Lee was legitimate. I've read his self defense books in the early 90s when NO one used those techniques. Bruce Lee knew the technique for power and speed. Bruce is the one who knew how to throw a proper side kick to get serious power. If he wasn't legit his books would've been crap. His books was right on the money.

[@MohammadAliKhalil]

Not the point You have to fight competitively or else it doesn’t matter

[@MattyDemello]

@MohammadAliKhalil ya. I get that, too. I wish they had ufc in those days haha. I believe he was the real deal but can't really prove it because there's no professional record. But I can tell by the books he wrote that he was way beyond his time. Way beyond

[@firestriker3580]

Bruce lee was not legitimate he was not a fighter

[@tonygallagher6989]

I'm not the Tony who spoke to you before, but I have a genuine "wrestlers walked into a dojo" story. I lived in an area of Ireland that, in terms of martial arts, only had a Japanese jujitsu class - nothing else. Two Lithuanian guys were bored enough to turn up to our class. After a few weeks, they stopped turning up. They consistently submitted everyone in that class, every time they grappled with them. It really wasn't a challenge for them.

[@griffin2599]

I think it depends on how you train and tg person training in that art. We have had college wrestlers come into our Judo school and be submitted. Although we do just about as much Newaza as we do Tachi Waza.

[@tonygallagher6989]

@@griffin2599 It sounds like you're in a good school. Judo's awesome, when it's taught correctly.

[@chanevazquez3046]

@TonyGallagher Lmao!!!😁😆What in the world does that have to do with Bruce Lee.

[@tonygallagher6989]

@@chanevazquez3046 You obviously didn't watch the video or didn't listen.

[@bsm102993]

Since listening to Chael, I've become a Lord, turned my crotch-pocket underwear game to 1000, and now, a Japanese knife master.

[@jacksdad734]

You are now prepared to take on 5 men.

[@termiteproducti0ns]

@@jacksdad734 u mean in a fight... right?

[@iliaaustin2753]

@@jacksdad734 in Brazil

[@chrisconnors9449]

Ok great, But do you own a ridge wallet?

[@bsm102993]

@@chrisconnors9449 I own at least 3

[@rddeb9304]

Bas Rutten had a funny story where he gave some Dim Mak guys permission to knock him out with one of the phony techniques and they wouldn't do it lmao. Wonder why.

[@MB-wp2px]

They were wise not to do it. Bas always comes strapped with salt shakers 🧂

[@dootpooter4740]

Bas Rutten's Arm would be a dank band name

[@jacksdad734]

I had a kung fu guy tell me his touch techniques were so destructive hed end up in jail if he demonstrated them on me.

[@MB-wp2px]

@@jacksdad734 I hope you leg kicked him

[@batboy555]

Is that the touch of death bs

[@eg2320]

According to Chuck Norris Jim Kelley and Joe Lewis Bruce Lee was the real deal. His speed and timing was extraordinary.

[@dmimiguo]

Let's assume Bruce Lee was just cha-cha-cha-fake (it was only his real official achievement btw). Do you really think that Chuck Norris would admit it? Never. It will destroy his own name. The snake of lie bites itself.

[@enrgy-xh5uq]

He was a fake

[@Sumbolon3301]

​​@@enrgy-xh5uq of course he was a fake... he was a pro at "looking great and cool", but he was not a real fighter, just an actor

[@enrgy-xh5uq]

@@Sumbolon3301 exactly

[@bruhmoment3731]

Why would you listen to professional fighters who actually knew Bruce and saw how good Bruce was? You should listen to KZbinrs who weren't even born when Bruce Lee was alive.

[@DarkCloudNC]

Man, Chael can ramble 😂

[@mr.brenman2132]

You are the one that thinks Dustin is washed. Gtfo.

[@ereisfireboi]

That's how his channel blew up, I still find myself tuning in

[@5isalivegaming72]

I need to remind myself chael is the undisputed champion of BS while I'm watching or I'll get carried away with his rambles lmfao

[@ereisfireboi]

@@5isalivegaming72 lol 😆

[@Soundeagle3456]

I can barely understand what he's saying at times

[@user-fh4xp2fv4j]

I don't know why, but when I saw Chael holding those knives I was genuinely concerned for his safety.

[@bchristopher2270]

I was concerned for the knives' safety.

[@wasabi5338]

meanwhile Tito cuts his own fingers while chopping onions

[@mikeynyc6857]

Chael, you would not be where you are today without the awareness Bruce Lee brought to martial arts. That’s why he deserves credit.

[@DivineOassis]

The real point is chael wants some clicks

[@MMAallday67]

@@cosmoanimeanalyst6160 He's right.

[@TheChocolateChamp]

Wtf are you talking about lol. The Gracies are why chael is where he is. But guess what they all did that Bruce didn't?? Guess? Guess???

[@MMAallday67]

@@TheChocolateChamp That crap doesn't work & Chael's claim to fame is wrestling, not the Gracie sham.

[@mikeynyc6857]

@@TheChocolateChamp I am referring to the fact that Bruce Lee brought martial arts into the main stream, this is not controversial or disputed.

[@m1garand164]

I started watching Chael’s channel awhile ago. At first I was seeking a retired fighter’s take on the modern mma scene and fight breakdowns. But what I realized after a while was I was getting a gimmick. A kind of character (much like he was during his ufc career and that wwf/wcw character he brought to real mma fighting. He got it from Ali, this showmanship, and Ali likely got it from Sugar Ray who likely got it from Jack Johnson.). It was all a showman married with a fighter to put asses un seats and make this endeavor a living. For the promoters and the fighters, and everyone who formed around the fighter to make it big. All this was born out of enterprise. Yet capitalism can cause strife. But it at least allows anyone who has drive and ideas to thrive.

[@wxlfgang9950]

Bruce Lee isn't really known for fighting he is known for his impactful And revolutionary way action movies were Choreographed He changed fight scenes in films honestly it wouldn't be a stretch to say he's the father of the genre that paved the way for fight films second to that was his Philosophy and his unmatched speed and Reflexes he displayed one stage Is he a fighter yes although more of an artist But can he beat UFC fighters or actually cage fighters today most likely not Of course we can't say it's impossible I'm sure he's do well But he's no Demetrius Johnson

[@conflict7269]

Dude if he was around today and got the training i bet he would do way better than people think he was a jacked determined lil dude that could do some crazy stuff for real but i liked your comment he did a lot for martial arts and get craped on a ton now a days

[@pops9087]

@@conflict7269 just because he did alot doesnt mean he could fight, your missing the point

[@conflict7269]

@@pops9087 just because he did movies doesn't mean he couldn't fight, at this point in time its all speculation imo, he is not here to prove it

[@philharrison2498]

Bruce isn't known for fighting? ask a hundred random people what Bruce Lee was known for, you think they're gunna come out with what you just said. Come on guy

[@shawnarnold9972]

@@philharrison2498 if you call scripted scenes of combat in a movie fighting, then yes he is known for fighting.

[@bigbfromaz]

Joe Rogan: “Do you really believe that Bruce thought that a bus was a dragon?” Chael: “That happened…..”

[@mrt445]

HAHAHAHAHA... Chael: He tried to feed it a Lantern

[@hydrolito]

Confusing Don Quixote with Bruce Lee.

[@bigbfromaz]

@@hydrolito WHOAAAAAAA, Big fella!

[@jamesbond_AMK]

Bruce Lee was an ACTOR. And NOT a fighter. Really a JOKER from China.

[@mrt445]

@@jamesbond_AMK I wouldn't go as far as to call him a joker from China. He was a great philosopher and action movie star. Maybe the best action movie star ever had he lived 30 years longer.

[@pizzo1427]

Not once did Bruce ever say he was the best fighter in the world. He focused himself on being the best he could be by blending different arts when he found out that wing chun didn't work and was a limited art like every art which focused on one discipline which was very unpractical in a real life situation at that time, so he started to develop a style with no style but to adapt to the fight on the fly And no one at that time was doing that. So yes his philosophy was correct because it's proven today. If trying to tarnish one man's legacy because he didn't fight competition doesn't mean he didn't know how to fight. Which is a closed mindset to have He provided for his family and brought together different cultures inspiring others to be the best they can be. That's a true martial artist. Be water my freind RIP Bruce Lee ☯️

[@abhijaysaraswat83]

Calling a guy 'garbage' who has done so much for your sport and so many legends in the world admire him thats very disrespectful if u have an opinion its fine but there are other ways of expressing it. I like u as a fighter chael but its not always cool and funny to trash talk.

[@keithgordon3823]

I couldn't keep a straight face through this one, Coach! And believe me, I tried. But the visual of you beating the Holy Sh+t outa' that dude holding the Pool stick got me!!! 😂😂😂 (BAD GUY INC ✊🐐🎱)

[@mrt445]

LOL

[@rickdeckard9810]

There was no UFC back in the 70's no legal full contact organizations with sanctioned bouts, Chuck Norris titles were no contact to the face, that was a different era and different times which paved the way for modern day martial artist to shine. We're all standing on the shoulder of giants, in anything, like comparing Roger Federer to Rod Laver, how could Bruce compete when there was no legal way to do so, and after the man is long dead and gone Chael Sonnen is knocking him and can't defend himself. The fact he's still being talked about is a testament to his legacy and despite Chael and Hollywood trying to tarnish it, it has stood the test of time. God bless this man for inspiring so many people. Will anyone be talking about Chael Sonnen in 50 years.

[@MasterDav]

Whether he could fight or not he knew about fighting, he was one of the first to realize and publish publicly that one shouldn't be limited to one martial art or style, he was aware of the striking, grappling and wrestling arts, and their different variations and forms, and to develop and be a complete fighter you couldn't stay within the boundaries of a single style of combat, he also studied and explored the most effective martial arts and their best techniques, he was way ahead of it's time, he certainly wasn't a traditional martial artist, he was employing a lot of western elements, techniques and concepts in his fighting style and in his strength and conditioning training. It's not his fault some of his students or people claiming to come from his lineage started mixing complete bs martial arts and calling it JKD after he died. He also employed full contact full armored training, which now is popular in self defense circles, guys like Dave Leduc have succesfully used Bruce Lee's 5 ways of attack in combat. He's shown ridiculous speed and dexterity in the martial arts. He was doing oblique kicks to the legs way before Jon Jones used them succesfully in MMA. I could go on and on, the point is he knew and he knew before a lot of people knew.

[@mariospiteri8561]

Well said mate 👏👍 if i could i would give you a bug gild medal 🥉 🥉👏

[@vladimirpoutine7522]

I actually agree with your first sentence. The problem is, so many people believe the very myths that were created in the fictional stories published in Black Belt magazine based on Bruce's ETD character. Gives me a giggle when I hear people say shit like, 'Bruce's kick was so fast a camera couldn't even catch it'. That was literally one of the fictional stories. Oh, the same magazine also featured George Dillman and Frank Dux as bad ass fighters...LOL! With all the things Bruce contributed, we need to debunk the nonsense from the truth.

[@MasterDav]

@@vladimirpoutine7522 yeah there's certainly a lot of attempts at perpetuating the myth, the legend of Bruce Lee rather than the real person, he certainly wasn't a perfect human, there's evidence today even that he might have been a drug addict and a lot of other things more that show he had a lot of issues. There's been a lot of attempts that have even succeded at hiding all of that. Now it's starting to be heard more and more about the real human Bruce Lee. But a lot of people also go the opposite route aswell, trying to give the idea he wasn't fast at all, or he wasn't proficient, or he didn't really knew martial arts, but all the evidence points to the fact that he was a very skilled, highly proficient practicioner of the martial arts, and very knowledgeable, specially for his age and the times that he lived in, his way of thinking was certainly revolutionary at that time. We have his writings, we have witnesses, lots of them martial artists, there's even evidence he might have influenced towards the creation of american full contact karate after Joe Lewis trained with Bruce, we also have the demonstrations he did on tournaments from 1964 to 1971, the most famous being the 1967, there's video evidence of all that, also his famous 1965 interview where he sowcases some moves.

[@vampire923]

Vladimirpoutin, camera only capture blurr

[@vladimirpoutine7522]

@@vampire923 Lol light speed blur!

[@yepyep111]

Love you Chael, but I don't get what the point of this video is except to diss Bruce Lee which you always do then throw in a back handed compliment. Bruce didn't believe in Dim Mak or "secret" techniques. But you're knocking a guy who would target the groin and eyes, call 911 if someone attacks your groin wtf? That's the smart thing to do when your life is on the line. And we've all seen how you UFC fighters react when you get kicked in the groin or eye poked. This isn't a finishing move and Bruce never claimed it to be. Let's get this out of the way, how would Bruce Lee hold up in the UFC today? He'd get crushed, as he should with the evolution of MMA specifically BJJ. But to say Bruce wasn't an amazing fighter during his time is simply ignorant. Bruce was a street fighter (with endless personal accounts of those who lived during his time) with the primary target being the eyes or groin followed by a straight blast per accounts of those who knew him. Look at those champions during his time who spared and learned from him. What was Bruce supposed to do during his time, join a Karate tournament and play off points? No disrespect, but one could argue it takes more balls to do a street fight then a UFC fight with a referee to stop it. As you mentioned, he revolutionized martial arts during his time to cross train and do away with silly/outdated techniques which weren't applicable in real fights. Bruce was ahead of his time, and he backed it up with what he could do during his time with street fights. Even if UFC was around during his time he wouldn't because of the restrictions (no eye pokes, no groin shots, no headbutts, no biting) etc all which are techniques one SHOULD utilize in a real fight. I think the point that guy you talked to was making was the difference between sport and street fighting. Oh you want to pull me into your guard? Assuming I don't have a knife or gun then yes I will revert to a groin shot or eye gauge to aid in my escape, so what?

[@jamesbond_AMK]

Bruce Lee was an ACTOR. And NOT a fighter. Really a JOKER from China.

[@mandelatalla6626]

Just for the fact that Bruce Lee came out with the philosophy of mixed martial arts… "Be Water 💦 my friend, be FORMLESS" already connotes he was already way ahead of his time in fighting. It doesn’t matter whether he fought in a competition or not. That wasn’t simply his life’s path. He chose ACTING for a career & excelled in it. If he had equally chosen fighting, he’d still excel in it & would’ve been an undisputed champion. He had the mindset & work ethic to be dominant in any realm of human endeavor he chose to. Ultimately, I do believe he wouldn’t teach what he wouldn’t do. He clearly walked the talk.

[@jimberry5318]

Yeah tell a fighter who's getting beat up "be water" between rounds......that's just nonsense talk it's empty but sounds deep......I'd rather hear real instructions like to jab or circle out left be water tells me nothing. Bruce was the conman of fighting.

[@calebpetersen7279]

He never had a fight. He was a movie star tough guy with an ego problem.

[@madanalym4165]

He was a movie star, yes he did martial arts, and he had a few street fights but he was no world champ material

[@mandelatalla6626]

@@jimberry5318 the fact that you say "be water " is just nonsense talk already means you don't even understand the meaning of the expression in the first place.

[@solomonsanabria7092]

@@mandelatalla6626 u didn’t finish quote be like water u put in the cup it becomes the cup . Be adaptable you can be ur self but still acquire needed skills etc to over come the challenge without changing yourself just what you do to get what u need probably more just a simple take

[@griffin2599]

Chael does not know what the hell he is talking about!! He use to say “Karate Sucks” yet a Karate guy retired his ass!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@user-sg8kq7ii3y]

A Karate guy who also knew jiu-jitsu and wrestling....

[@100tuti001]

@@user-sg8kq7ii3y Machida didn’t know wrestling tho smh🤦🏻‍♂️ That’s literally why he lost to Joel Homero and Brunson

[@user-sg8kq7ii3y]

@@100tuti001 What I meant was that he knew basic wrestling. I'm not saying that he was a "wrestler". I'm saying that he knew basic grappling, and he is also a black belt in BJJ. The POINT that I was trying to make is that Machida is NOT a pure Karate guy. He knows grappling. And knowing grappling is that makes his karate useful. NOT the other way around.

[@katokianimation]

@@user-sg8kq7ii3y almost every striker is high level at bjj or having excessive training in the buttom ground game of submission grappling. Even Conor was a brown belt. The better your defense on the ground you can get away, being more reckless on your feet. And anyway eventually you will get down there. Esspecially if you are go with a d1 wrestler. Bjj people gravitate to learn more about striking. Strikers to learn more about the buttom ground game. The two things beautifully complement each others.

[@mattdayman9632]

@@100tuti001 actually he did know wrestling he trained in wrestling with antonio inoki but your probably too much of a casual too even know who he is!

[@vitod7425]

To Chaels point, the other day I was rolling with my teammate and he accidentally kneed me hard in the taint and I still retained guard lol

[@robmangeri777]

I’m doing Karate with my kids. I wrestled in high school. Karate is fun. Wrestling is not. I have to be careful not to hurt people who do karate and I’m new at it. That said, some of the guys there cross train other martial arts and are serious about it so they are certainly capable of doing damage. I personally would take a random room full of wrestlers much more seriously than I would take the nice folks in a random dojo when it came to a real fight.

[@MrDdurrett]

Chael delivering a groin shot to Tone.

[@bb-phantom3324]

Tone cld easily block it an counter with a one inch punch !!!

[@dangerose9210]

Chaels whinny voice is so good

[@georgejenkinson8927]

Bruce Lee is a genius, and his ideas for striking were revolutionary

[@johnmason9221]

Bruce Lee's genius was convincing morons he was a fighter and not an actor.

[@kylebalmer3396]

Nope

[@georgejenkinson8927]

His philosophy and teachings shaped the way we approach martial arts today. He also invented punching mitts which almost every martial artist uses

[@kylebalmer3396]

@@georgejenkinson8927 is that true?

[@kylebalmer3396]

Just looked it up, it isn't

[@cherub3624]

Chael, the point is that the person who figured out to combine the different arts, had to have a mind for FIGHTING. There is absolutely no way he couldn't fight a lick.

[@damzey911]

Agreed!However.... Cheal is never wrong so we are both wrong,sorry bud 😄

[@dustinwalker8152]

Just because you can do an art form doesn't make it technically martial.

[@cherub3624]

@@dustinwalker8152 That has nothing to do with what I said.

[@dustinwalker8152]

@@cherub3624 ok.

[@shawnarnold9972]

Bruce Lee was not the first to combine multiple arts. The Han dynasty created Shuai Jiao... Which was the first art to mix striking and grappling techniques. Most would say pankration was the first form of MMA, but the Han dynasty developed kicking into their art.

[@waelharp4060]

Bruce Lee is a legend.

[@jamesbond_AMK]

Bruce Lee was an ACTOR. And NOT a fighter. Really a JOKER from China.

[@waelharp4060]

@@jamesbond_AMK Lol have some respect bro what's this world coming too. Bruce Lee is still a legend.

[@valcrist7428]

He's a MOVIE ACTOR Martial Arts Legend. But in terms of REAL FIGHTING AND REAL MARTIALS ARTS. Nope.. he didn't won a SINGLE fight. Because he's not a REAL Martial Artist.. What he does is just for movies..

[@jeffjacobson59]

Some people fight for fun, some for exercise, some for technical prowess, some for a spiritual perspective, and some because they want to find the best way to kick someone’s ass. I believe in internal benefits for training. I’m not a fighter for money. I do martial arts for discipline and meditation. It’s all about perspective, Chael. Any martial artist worth their salt will admit a good MMA fighter will kick anyones ass, but this isn’t the reason everyone trains. Guys like yourself make money, so you needed to do what you had to. An accountant that likes a philosophy of martial art is just having fun and doesn’t care about kicking ass. I know it’s hard for you super competitive guys have a hard time understanding this. For me it’s a meditation of purpose

[@mastersathlete7380]

I'm not sure what dojos Chael is referring to, but any I've trained at result in my gi being drenched in sweat. One of the biggest sins at the dojo (Shorin Ryu and Shotokan karate) was NOT to launder your gi between workouts.

[@johnnolting1856]

He looked good on Film to Me.. & he was certified by every "World Champion" he ever Sparred with. Legend

[@Ooga_Boogaaaaa]

A lot of people would tell you Siegel is a badass too

[@derekmarlowe522]

you drank the kool-aid and became delusional. what you wrote never happened...

[@theblindref4u]

@@Ooga_Boogaaaaa he is

[@johnnolting1856]

Lmao, I don't even understand the Hate when it comes to Bruce Lee??? Sooo Many Athletes and World Class Martial Artists that where in the same room as him, and tried to lay hands on him have all said the same thing.. He was on another Level!!! I dare anyone to just attempt to follow his training Logs,, Good Luck!!!! 👍

[@vanhattfield8292]

@@johnnolting1856 If his training methods were actually any good you would see tons of people following them, but yoiu don't. You never saw other actual martial artists following his style at all, the ones you DID see were Westerrn actors who were mesmerized by his Charisma. Not a single person in modern times uses his style in competition. there is a reason for that...

[@zappasaves]

gg means "good game", which is a smug and sarcastic way to suggest the game is over and you have lost.

[@olddadagamer]

I was looking for this one haha

[@tokesalotta1521]

What's with the myth that Bruce Lee was the first to cross train and to promote it? Plenty of people trained multiple disciplines such as boxing and wrestling, or catch wrestling, boxing, and judo etc. In fact Judo basically copied catch wrestling -- lot's of martial arts copied others, but just kept their old name. I think the myth started because eastern martial arts instructors were militant about their styles and acted as if theirs was all that was needed. Bruce Lee was humbled when he came to America because even novice wrestlers and boxers could take him, and his weapon usage couldn't hang with low level fencers. That's where he stole his bamboo thing -- the flexible bamboo being faster than a big sword

[@briantneary2248]

Bruce Lee would be the best WWE champion of all-time

[@Deo_Volente]

Vince 'I'm not a fan of vanilla midgets' McMahon has got a problem with the new 'superstar' 'Bruce'.

[@alyberop1]

Imagine if he got sensei Seagal to train him? Unbelievable

[@GoRun1982]

@@Deo_Volente Vanilla midgets are the worst

[@shafqatishan437]

Nah, Vince is racist, he always made Asians into jobbers.

[@jamesbond_AMK]

Bruce Lee was an ACTOR. And NOT a fighter. Really a JOKER from China. Bruce Lee was an ACTOR. And NOT a fighter. Really a JOKER from China.

[@jessem.2807]

Interesting switch there Lord Uncle Chael! You go from Bruce Lee to modern dojos. Modern dojos teach technique. Conditioning is at your own leisure. Bruce was well conditioned, combined techniques and dedicated his whole life to the practice.

[@VanishingNomad]

Every Kung Fu school I was ever at we trained so hard we crawled out of there because our legs were like rubber...no showers. Just a changing area for the guys and another one for the girls. Granted, this was in Chicago...and it seems Kung Fu there was a whole different animal, than what people "Claim" Kung Fu is today. Most all schools had a full contact fight team.

[@user-rr5ce1wb2j]

Kung Fu is useless. Even what you're inferring is "real" Kung Fu. Why do you think Bruce created his own style? Because he knew Kung Fu was no good, too limited, didn't work. I think you need to go watch some Xu Xiaodong videos.

[@ttkrystal8329]

Oh no my lil King Fu school I trained at in Seattle was the real deal. Guy who ran it had Krav and Sambo training too.

[@marquiecruzado1804]

Also Joe Lewis The Muhammad Ali of Karate is a true representative of Bruce Lee’s fighting skills.

[@FarmerDrew]

Jeet Kun Do is a highly esoteric art that I put to work in my everyday life with absolutely fluid performance constantly like water.

[@rddeb9304]

This just had to contain the Kamikoto add

[@roberttauzer7042]

I think Chael wants to put down Jeet Kune do, which was not envisioned as a martial art but as a self-defense skill. In the case you're attacked and fight for dear life, you want to maximize the damage and get away asap. That's why skill focuses on groin shots and eye pokes, they do maximum damage compared to strength invested and you can use them even if you are much smaller, or as woman against a man. This was never envisioned as a competitive skill or sport.

[@Junkzillabox]

Probably better to just learn how to use a knife and grappling, if you are ever gonna be in a life and death situation and already have that mind set you mentioned. A lot of it can translate over to mundane things you can carry around like a pen or something similar. If someone is planning on killing you, you might as well make it extremely not worth their while..

[@Vekren]

I can agree from both sides but listen to this honestly my father was training in Japan doing shotokan in the 80s and he told me that the students would go and watch The Green Hornet because they were impressed with Katos abilities and kicks so that must mean something. I'm not gonna say he was the best of all time but he may have been the best at that time.

[@villain1813]

This and DB Cooper is all I need in my life.

[@HARRY__Pecker]

“He thought that was cool, that he could go into a gym, and get thrown around by an 83 year old woman” 😂😂😂😂

[@chaosiscoming3369]

Bruce Lee is the real goat of mma 🥰

[@jamesbond_AMK]

Bruce Lee was an ACTOR. And NOT a fighter. Really a JOKER from China.

[@phoenix21studios]

impossible to tell. he is lacking a fighting record. he never proved himself.

[@Artesian_mirage]

I remember in my teens buying a couple of those books that had notes and drawings by Bruce that had been compiled by an editor posthumously into a set of books, and one book in particular focused on how Bruce saw fighting, as in street fighting. There were diagrams of eye gauges, groin strike, primitive choke holds. I remember reading lines that Bruce Lee wrote that went something like (i'm not directly quoting as i can't remember), "If you are going to fight in the street, you best be prepared to do whatever it takes to win the fight, if that means biting the nose off of your opponent, then so be it. But the point is not the pre-planning, but the will and intention to do harm and to not lose, if a guy is that besotted and driven, he will likely bite the nose off his opponent even if he is not as skilful." Something like that. Anyway the guy had a mentality of a fighter first, a martial artist second to back up his street fighting (there's plenty of sources backing up his prior experiences of street fighting in Hong Kong). But I think he would likely lose to any skilled bigger heavyweight in most other effective disciplines, but i'm sure he could mollywhop the average 6ft3 heavyset powerful burley truck driver who felt he could manhandle Bruce.

[@nativeamericancowboy5028]

All you need in life is to defend from the average threat. Bruce was strong enough to defend himself from the average man, and that say a lot for a Chinese man his size.

[@OriginalSmohrman]

As someone who fell for the whole TMA B.S. when I was young I have to agree with the attitude that the uninitiated have: If I learn a few "secret moves" from this KF Master I'll be a killing machine. Sparring once with someone in MMA will cure you of that pretty quick. Having said that, I was in L.A. a lot in the 80s, running around in MA circles and knew a few people who either sparred or had friends who sparred with Bruce. They said he was blink-of-an-eye fast, and could hit and kick *really* hard. I don't think he was a great fighter, but he was obsessed with fitness and being able to hit and kick with speed and power. He wasn't just a Hollywood "fighter", neither was he able to beat like a Bas Ruten I think... he was somewhere in between and didn't have today's training methods... he was too busy innovating some of them.

[@colinwin6916]

sparring sure. MMA in a street fight ...not so much. Being on the ground is a liability in a street fight. Everything has something to offer in different situations

[@swedishbutcher]

yes all of a sudden a trained mma fighter loses all his skills in the street and a streetfighter reigns supreme. Of course a trained fighter is incapable of fighting dirty and eye pokes and groin strikes will incapacitate him. 🙄

[@youngnguyen2012]

damn how did you went from he was blinkingly fast and hit really hard but i don't think he was a great fighter? That's the ultimate succession of every martial artist is to hit hard and FAST. if ure there, then everything else is secondary

[@gravel2474]

Chael back at it again with the clickbait. The real American Gangster

[@mr.brenman2132]

What was his pro or amateur record?

[@mr.brenman2132]

@@mrmoonlight1001 I'm talking about Bruce Lee.

[@unsub6737]

Unc has lost his mind. There are some things that everybody knows but u just don't say out loud. Bruce Lee is still a legend though, whether he could really fight or not.

[@cordellsenior9935]

OMGl. I think I'm in luv with this guy. I almost started weeping when he got to the ethics and efficacy of Dripping Sweat equity. I'm with you 100, sir. So glad to hear it from someone else other than me.

[@Basta11]

Bruce Lee was not a pro-fighter, he didn't really engage in tournaments for whatever reason. Maybe he thought the rules were too constrictive, this is certainly true with boxing although Bruce Lee did box in high school and won a small inter school tournament in Hong Kong. Point Karate was not really sensible either. MMA didn't exist yet, if it did, young Bruce would have probably been keen to try. Who knows. He certainly had the balls to start teaching martial arts during his time in college. He was famous for defying all the "masters" and daring anyone to challenge him which led to the duel with Wong Jack Man. He had a family to support at 24 years old, tournament fighting was not going to pay the bills. He went into acting instead which he was familiar with. As an Asian man in Hollywood at that time, what he was able to accomplish is quite a miracle. Bruce Lee had a massive library. He was probably the one of the most well read person in the arena of martial arts at that time. He read books in boxing, fencing, Chinese martial arts, Karate, military combat training. He had a collection of film reels of boxing matches. He studied fights from Jack Demsey, Sugar Ray Robinson, Muhammad Ali. Bruce didn't fight in tournaments, but he did learn, teach, and trained with many martial arts of diverse backgrounds including but not limited to Fred Sato and Gene Labell (Judo and Wrestling), Taky Kimura and Jesse Glover(Judo), Chuck Norris and Bob Wall (Karate), Jhoon Rhee (TKD), Leo Fong (Boxing), Wally Jay (Jiu Jitsu), Dan Inosanto (Escrima). As one can see, he wasn't oblivious to the grappling arts at all. Bruce Lee films have featured moves that are seen in MMA. In many cases, its the first time people have seen such moves in film. The guillotine, oblique kick to the knee, side kick, question mark kick, double leg take down, scissor sweep, arm bar, arm triangle choke, crucifix, shoulder throw, hip throw. In his demonstrations in the Karate Championships, he clearly exhibits lots of knowledge in Judo which he mixed with Chinese Martial arts. Unfortunately he died in 1973. He was still evolving, learning, studying, researching. The Gracies didn't set up their garage in Los Angeles until 5 years later.

[@carlinytc7431]

This is very true he also trained Joe lewis who is considered to be one of the or if not the best karate fighter of all time and he claimed bruce hit like a heavyweight. Also he taught jhoon rhee the accupunch who later went on to teach it muhammad ali. Anyone who claims bruce lee couldn't fight is a idiot. I think some of the martial artist get real salty because it's as Jon jones once said you can go out there and win 30 Pro fights but your legacy will never be near bruce Lee's

[@mekkiabdellaoui5378]

The boxing tournament win is a myth and lie he had one boxing match with another kid from his school there photos of it

[@wasabi5338]

bruce absolutely didnt want to test himself. bare knuckle kyokushin competitions that allowed throws, face punches and headbutts, along with muay thai that allowed groin shots existed in the 60s. Bruce was aware that both of these martial arts exist as he said thai guys would wreck traditional kung fu people, and that he owned a Mas Oyama book. He was also in thailand during filming Big Boss, he couldve very well came back after finishing the movie to spectate and even try himself in muay thai comps that had less rules compared to now.

[@mekkiabdellaoui5378]

@wasabi5338 mauy thai was there, and Lee had been to Thailand, but people will tell you it wasn't popular lol but this isn't about popularity or money I thought bruce lee want to prove he can fight,he didn't need the fame or money he already had both which was going to help him set up any sanctioned fight he wanted to do , full contact kickboxing,boxing, mauy thai,no rules fight if he wanted he had the money and the fame to make it happen

[@mekkiabdellaoui5378]

Bruce lee never won boxing tournament that's myth that has been already debunked he had a boxing match with another kid from the school

[@InvestBetter.]

Chael "Bruce Lee ain't sh!t" Sonnen

[@thomasdrotar]

Bruce Lee, after he shot Enter the Dragon, weighed 125lbs

[@nasri]

List of reasons why I believe he could fight: 1. In his biography, 'Bruce Lee, A Life - Matthew Polly', it's revealed that his first and only official fight was a boxing match in high school. He won as an underdog. This fact alone debunks the myth that he 'never' fought. 2. Bruce was notoriously vocal, especially about martial arts. As a loud-mouthed Asian in 60's Hollywood claiming to be able to kick ass, I'd say it's more than probable that there were many who accepted his challenges. But what's missing here? Anybody who outright claims to have beaten him, besides Gene LeBell, of course. 3. He learned the significance of grappling arts and went so far as to claim a person with a year of boxing and wrestling could beat a lifelong traditional martial artist. This, especially when coupled with the fact that he was foremost a 'kung-fu' guy, shows how his theories weren't borne out of thin air. He had experienced problems and found the solutions in other arts. In fact, his findings were extremely upsetting to traditional Chinese martial arts schools. He was and is still right, 20-30 years before MMA was even a thing. 4. For every person who claims he can't fight, there's also a person in every traditional martial art who SWEARS someone from their art, who is of course, anonymous, that fought and defeated Bruce before he died, often times insinuating that the match was the cause of Bruce's death. So which is it? He never fought but died from fighting? 5. His physical training and discipline. You don't train that hard just to talk about martial arts. I'm not saying he was undefeatable. Even he wouldn't claim to be; he had bodyguards and also bought a gun to defend himself after the Manson murders. But to say he couldn't fight at all is simply unrealistic. Even Chuck Norris and Jim Kelly have backed him. What more do you need?

[@jonevans870]

I mean, there’s no question that Bruce was obsessed with martial arts and physical training. But he was also a movie star who played fighters! The only thing remotely indicating that he was a good fighter is the accounts of other respected martial artists, and quite a few say he was great. Norris if I recall respected Bruce Lee’s skills but did not indicate he was anything amazing. I think it’s likely Lee had some skills and was probably as good as a hobbyist can get. But unlikely in the league of a professional fighter, especially not by today’s standards.

[@EBKmichael]

Read about the Bruce Lee vs Yoichi Nakachi (kyokushin black beltfight) at the YMCA gym in Seattle in the early 60’s. Plus, dan inosanto said it himself he witnessed lee fight numerous challengers in their oakland jun fan school days.

[@stevo62ful]

@@EBKmichael Yoichi claims they never fought, so another unproven myth. A couple of guys on these threads have trained with Dan Inosanto and both say that the only fight Dan ever saw Bruce have was a road rage incident.

[@firestriker3580]

He never fought anyone in those days.

[@mikesprigg5495]

6. He's a fake

[@jamesspeights1035]

I think that Bruce Lee was one of the best fighters for his time. He has this reputation for being the best of all time and that is simply not true. The reality is there is always the evolution of training. The next generation is always going to have more experience to learn from. If Bruce Lee were alive today and he decided he wanted to step into the cage with his skill set as it were he would get destroyed. The thing that separates Bruce from other people is that he would be willing to train and learn to be the best that he could. He had the understanding that you need to be constantly evolving to keep up with everyone else.

[@yaakw]

That plus he was a movie star in his spare time.

[@googlemyself4091]

Lol um Bruce Lee never had a fight in his own time. So how was he one the best fighters for his time kid?

[@crispin_21]

@@googlemyself4091 He absolutely been in street fights.

[@crispin_21]

In a cage not but in a street fight he would destroy many to this day.

[@chilltheboss1959]

@@crispin_21 are you special??? he said the man NEVER had a fight lol you people will believe anything

[@414chino4]

Lmao to these days standards I can understand but Bruce knew how to fight before “fighting” was even a thing. Before all these combat disciplines were a thing there was Bruce lee💯 created Jeet Kune Do his own martial art n basically did everything a fighter could do back then

[@mrt445]

Good for him but claiming he would have beaten all pro fighters regardless of weight is ridiculous.

[@murdamonk]

Calling Judo Gene Lebell a fake is wild af

[@gheranyarramansteel5608]

Bruce wasn’t a fighter. But, I think he would’ve done well today i thats what he wanted to do. He was athletic, hard working, smart, innovative, he knew how to get lean and build muscle, he knew how to throw a kick and had good speed and agility. But, yeah, he wasn’t a competitive fighter, he was a movie star and a philosopher. His movies had a massive impact on getting people to want to be fighters.

[@jessycruz2465]

One thing I would give to bruce lee is that his impact is still felt up to this day which is freaking crazy.

[@trumpisthemessiah7017]

he was an actor... You people cant tell movies from reality... jfc...

[@vampire923]

most said about bruce lee is true, but naysayers is sour grape .

[@Tuface_Killa97]

Well his physique says otherwise and philosophy.

[@user-im2zg3ix8y]

​@@trumpisthemessiah7017You might wanna watch the Jim Kelly interview who worked with Bruce Lee on the set o f Enter The Dragon, He said Bruce was the real deal,He was untouchable.

[@axelstone3131]

@@user-im2zg3ix8ylook at what the guy said you replied to and look at his name and avatar. It says it all. The guy is lost. Doesn’t know up from down.

[@bebop4874]

Bruce Lee - “Wannanow”

[@simplyphenomenal695]

A man that is solely an actor and isn’t a martial arts wizard is not realistic. How would an actor help improve joe Lewis’s ability? (Lewises own words). Why would a newspaper claim that they saw Norris was intently listening to lee scold him about his technique being wrong and that Norris LISTENED like a student. Don’t see an actor being able to make 2 great martial artists listen to him.

[@timmertwotone1]

I believe Bruce would be an elite MMA fighter if he was in this time. Not because of his skills that he possess, but because of his insatiable need to learn, work ethic,and the absolute need to be the best.

[@bio-hazzard1233]

He was also really athletic. From what I’ve seen, he was faster then any of the current UFC Bantamweight division

[@caseybyrom1]

What martial art do you consider him the best at? Because he had literally one fight in his entire life, a decision win over an amateur boxer named Gary Elms who retired 0-1. I’m a Bruce Lee fan btw just curious.

[@traceygresham6845]

I agree. However, it's also true what Chael said in this video. Bruce Lee promises attacks that are too dangerous to use. I think the main issue with Bruce Lee philosophies is apples and oranges. I think he could find devastating attacks that could be legal in MMA... yknow... innovative stuff that he could create that we could all use. But he didn't live long enough for that to happen :c

[@mrt445]

@@bio-hazzard1233 No he was not, lol.... but he was athletic and carasmatic.

[@bio-hazzard1233]

@@mrt445 tell me a bantamweight faster then him

[@bobgriffith2001]

Bruce was a fighter...a streetfighter, and to call him less because he didn't compete in competition is ridiculous. JKD was developed for the realistic street situation. Bruce had numerous street fights in his youth and even as an adult, fought challengers on movie sets, tough guys who tried him in his school, all out sparring matches with some of the biggest martial arts names of that time and the infamous no rules fight with the Tong's Wong Jack Man. Bruce also trained the likes of Mike Stone, Chuck Norris and Joe Lewis (Who all became champs under his teachings). KZbin is filled with testimonials of name martial artists who spoke of his skills as a teacher and real fighter, having witnessed it. Unfortunately, there are MMA fighters who believe that if you haven't fought with rules in the octagon, that you are not a real fighter and that is just not the case.

[@12floz67]

🤣🤣

[@TheChocolateChamp]

Lol yeah I'm a better basketball player than LeBron and steph curry. I just never played.

[@MMAallday67]

Well said...

[@bobgriffith2001]

@@TheChocolateChamp what didn't you understand about what was written in my post? Aside from your basketball skills, your reading comprehension is dubious as well.

[@a.lawrence4969]

Norris, Lewis and Stone were all point champions well before they met Lee. Can you share videos of Lee's actual fights. Guys who stared in films have some. Benny Urquidez fought when Lee lived and was in films. They were around the same weight. No fights nor did Lee fight at the tournaments he demoed at. Why? Other Asian martial artists fought.

[@d0ublestr0ker0ll]

It's baffling how many people desperately hang on to Bruce being a great fighter. It's embarrassingly rampant.

[@axelstone3131]

When your criteria for being a “fighter” is a combat sports athlete and competes in regulated sports fighting with rules and a referee, yeh, it is embarrassing. Especially because it is widely known Bruce didn’t care about nor compete in combat sport because he considered it a waste of time and utterly pointless. His interest was in stopping someone who breaks into your house with a knife, or approached you in a parking area with a weapon, or tries to attack you from out of nowhere when you are walking down the street at night alone. Actual self defence, not prearranged sport nonsense. They two things are completely different and you are putting him into a category he was never in to begin with.

[@Stunt877]

@@axelstone3131Bruh anybody with common sense knows the average street fighter can’t compare to any professional fighter. We aren’t the ones saying Bruce lee is a great fighter but that lie has been carried on and portrayed for decades that he was a great fighter. WWE actually let’s us know what they were doing. But people actually still actually debate Bruce lee vs mike Tyson when that’s disrespectful to mike Tyson a proven fighter.

[@axelstone3131]

@@Stunt877 since I am tired of having these debates with people who are not even slightly educated on Bruce, have any frame of reference for events in his life, who he fought or how he trained. You being another one of these people, I am going to link you to this video stating the facts about the guy. You can chose to ignore it which you probably will. Also, Bruce Lee wasn’t just an average guy that randomly got into fights drunk fools at the weekend outside the pub. Your criteria of a “street fighter” is also just as ignorant. Here are the facts. I won’t be responding to you again. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ommvgKJvebOIpq8si=H8U8MB7H-XXLicEh

[@axelstone3131]

For you @d0ublestr0ker0ll so you can also educate yourself about the guy since you are just as ignorant as chael kzbin.info/www/bejne/ommvgKJvebOIpq8si=Le93BoWSI_gFGNMz

[@mrjeffish8113]

you're just another hater that have no martial arts concept

[@griffin2599]

Also, stuntmen on the set of the big boss told stories about an MT guy that challenged Bruce on set. Bruce accepted and Bruce defeated him.

[@martinterrizzi515]

Many here behind a screen would t have the balls to say shit like that to Lee’s face . It’s the American Way bigger is better . Land if look at me I’m tough guy . Easy to be tough and put a man down who is dead 50 years.

[@griffin2599]

@@martinterrizzi515 I know it's ridiculous!! I don't think people consider the fact that Bruce was always training and wanting to learn something new. Additionally, there are a number of people who trained with Bruce that said his speed was insane!!

[@phoenix21studios]

beating up a random stuntman isnt exactly honorable or proof of good fighting skill.

[@YODAJJ]

“You made it up to prove a point” 😂😂😂

[@anthonypena4447]

I disagree Chael; Bruce Lee had olympic level speed, agility and cat like reflexes; he was also very explosive and can land any offensive attack before his opponents can anticipate them. Bruce also cross trained in Wing chun, Boxing, Tae kwon do, Karate, Muay thai, Savate, Japanese Aki jiu-jitsu, Judo and catch wrestling. Just because Bruce Lee never competed doesnt mean that he cant fight, the man clearly had years of extensive training in his own personal development of (JKD) mix martial arts, he had the athletic physical abillities of an olympic athlete, and he was also mentally tough and had a very high fight IQ when it came to strategy and tatical ways to win a fight.

[@jamesbond_AMK]

Bruce Lee was an ACTOR. And NOT a fighter. Really a JOKER from China.

[@nikesh9157]

Glazing

[@abdulmuhammad-md7xi]

because martial arts is not about fighting, he was just using it to push his bodies highest potential, not to fight. the golden rule that martial arts masters say, we learn martial arts so that we do not have to fight, self control which is inner strength. it is called self defense not fight people. its like exercising a whole lot to see how strong we become, see our body's limit, he was never about fighting that is the normal man's ego type of thinking, it is a dance, it strengthening the mind and body so that you can see that the mind is the body, mind power expressing through the physical body, an art. you gain wisdom by having that experience, mind body connection just like yoga is the same thing. knowledge, wisdom, health, wellness, strengthen mind then body, and spirit. inner union, a real true martial artist, not because you can be violent, because of your grace.

[@TheIronandSilk]

Long before Bruce Lee was even born, the Great Ch'ang, Tung Sheng said, "No one can become a champion by using one style." Ch'ang was known as the face of modern Shuai Chiao (Chinese Wrestling).

[@patrickm4935]

True words!

[@willms7173]

Was it really before Lee was born. I used to read the articles on Shuai Chiao, and I didn't get the impression that Ch'ang was teaching before Lee was born.

[@patrickm4935]

@@willms7173 he didn't really teach until later in life, but he was training and defeating adversaries in legit fights long before Lee was ever born. Part of his success was training in multiple internal and external styles of Chinese martial arts. A blueprint he followed long before Lee ever started plagiarizing.

[@willms7173]

@@patrickm4935 Although what makes Lee different, is that he incorporated both eastern and western training methods.

[@elitecombatfitnesscentral6170]

Remember also Bruce Lee lived in a different era he was a badass in his era.

[@breezy1507]

Would still be a badass in our era too tbf

[@jamesbond_AMK]

Bruce Lee was an ACTOR. And NOT a fighter. Really a JOKER from China.

[@breezy1507]

@@jamesbond_AMK he was a legit martial artist

[@chrisanziano1781]

Bruce fought on the street not in the ring. There are plenty of people how have fought bruce or has seen him fight and they will tell you how good of a fighter he was.

[@vladimirpoutine7522]

Yeah he fought on the schoolyard in China, when he was 13. Just like most people getting into school fights. He explains this in his book. And everyone who tells you how good he is, that's called hearsay. Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear. Wise words.....

[@vampire923]

and bruce lee hearsay is genuinely true

[@burningdaylights]

"Why are they touching their groin in any fashion?" Classic Chael.

[@swangonzalez4797]

Whatever the case, as long as people talk about him, his legend will live on long after most fighters are forgotten.

[@alexf9381]

Which has no relevance to the point at hand whatsoever. Nowhere is the discussion about who is the most famous. The reason he will be remembered is through his words and through his works movies, ie works of fiction. Which only underlines the point.

[@swangonzalez4797]

@@alexf9381 A lot if his contemporaries from his time, some still alive might disagree with you. Experts in their own martial art. I dont think its possible for him to earn respect, capable martial artists into thinking he was skilled if he wasnt Though his movies naturally hyped his skills, to think that people still talk about and argue about his skill points to a high possibility that he was skilled to some degree. Only a fool would think he was unbeatable....but also that he was a fraud.

[@2002kirbow]

I needed to put on subtitles when Lord Uncle Chael was talking about the pool cue game 😅

[@yogsothoth-tz2bu]

It is mindblowing that the world didnt know about Sambo,that art is basically mma and it has been around since the 30s.

[@Lyr1c1stG3n3ius2012]

🤣🤣🤣 we need uncle Chael to 1 of these a day... Just getting at someone...poor Tone or Tony🤔

[@RyanPortland420]

I'm totally sold on this idea. Thanks Uncle Chael.

[@dootpooter4740]

I believe it's Lord Uncle Chael in the public square.. but you can be informal in a more private setting. Protocols and all.

[@charlieanton6785]

It was a different time and I don’t think it is fair to compare him to modern athletes. However I get your point that it is more about his philosophy than anything. HOWEVER he could fight very well! He could punch and kick very fast, he had great movement and strength and he was in great shape for the time. You can’t dispute how good he was at punching, kicking and moving.

[@forelamp6873]

You clearly haven't seen videos of him punching, he was downright horrible at striking

[@ysonline]

GG is a respectful acknowledgement of a 'good game' session in a competitive video game but can be applied to any sporting situation where there is friendly competition.

[@jimsteinmanfan80]

Much of what Chael said is true but even before UFC guys started acting in movies Dolph Lundgren was actually a European karate champion. That might not mean much to an american but I imagine you have to train quite a bit to do that.

[@bb-phantom3324]

Man that guy ain't nothing, he got beat up by a little short guy from Philly!!

[@phoenix21studios]

@@bb-phantom3324 but he was made of iron !

[@darkness198065]

I've been arguing this same shit for awhile with people, and I be like.."The movie Once upon a time in Hollywood was on point in terms of who Bruce Lee actually was." Their heads explode. Thank you uncle Chael.

[@Jrm__15]

Bruce was the first big name to combine multiple martial arts disciplines in practice. Very ahead of his time, it’s all respect. Multiple fighters cited him for inspiration. Anderson Silva is probably one of the most well known.

[@phoenix21studios]

Yeah but Chuck Norris did it before Lee. and then Chuck went on to be the world champion. Lee made movies. so BIG name is subjective. Lee was not a name at all in the fighting world, only in movies. Chuck was the big name in the fighting world.

[@vampire923]

bruce lee is real fighter, not sport fighter, he fight real, not sport, his technic and skill is superb, his speed is unmatch, he dedicate himself the wholelife for martial arts, emphasize record is paper tiger, it doesn't matter to have record or not when fighting in.street.

[@edwardrichard2561]

Joe Lewis Champion kick boxer said Bruce was the threw fastest punch he’d ever seen and that he hit like a heavy weight. Bruce may not of fought for sport but the ones that did that Bruce knew said he was world class.

[@madanalym4165]

Someone cannot be considered world class if they haven't fought or competed at world class level.

[@edwardrichard2561]

@@madanalym4165 when you beating world class champions in sparing or at least holding your own I would say that’s incorrect.

[@gametime2473]

Do you really think Joe Lewis was fighting 100% against Bruce Lee? He was shining on the famous movie star, probably hoping to get a movie role. Also, there is no 135 pound fighter on Earth that hits like a HW so that is blatantly false.

[@edwardrichard2561]

@Dnomyar Akunawik how do you know? He trained and rolled with Gene Labell 2x National Judo Champ, catch wrester, boxer and winner of the first televised MMA match. Bruce spared and trained Joe Lewis world champ kick boxer who was a great fighter. Haters are going to hate.

[@edwardrichard2561]

@Dnomyar Akunawik Joe Lewis said Bruce threw the faster punch he’d ever seen and that he hit like a heavyweight. He said he knew because they spared. You can find Joe speaking on it on KZbin.

[@kleeklee4572]

I haven’t fought “professionally” but I’ve fought in real life many many many times. I’ve never lost, but I do not have a pro record. Does that mean i can’t fight?

[@khmerxbxboi]

At the end of the day Bruce Lee is legendary ... you know how hard is this Art? from creative of all elements ...

[@lesgrossman8698]

I am a huge Bruce Lee fan since my childhood days but then I grew older and matured and subsequently came to the conclusion that Bruce Lee was nothing but a martial arts enthusiast, teacher, trainer, philosopher, artist and an actor but not a real FIGHTER. He would be demolished against any amateur in boxing and in mma. Even though I loved and love his fighting style still to this day.

[@SKODENSTOODIS]

The problem is that people will be people. People will always compare and have conflict about shit that doesn't even matter or shouldn't even be brought up. Fact is the man has been dead for decades. And people still talk about him to this day. Good and bad. And will continue to talk about him. Whether it's good or bad. Sometimes both. The way I see it. The man was cool and brilliant at what he did. People can go ahead and talk shit if they want to. Just know you're talking shit about a dead man. And at least he doesn't have to worry or hear any of this bullshit. Because the man is resting in peace. That doesn't stop people from being people. Rather than appreciate what they did while they were here. People have to compare stupid shit that's irrelevant to reality. And the reality is that he's dead. Even if he were alive today. He'd be an old man. Than people would just be talking shit or praising an old man. If you have to talk shit about an old man or would pick a fight with an old man. That speaks volumes about who you are and your character. Even asking an old man a stupid question like if they were in their prime etc. The fact would remain that's a stupid and irrelevant question. Because they're old. That's the reality. You want to entertain yourself or let your imagination run wild. Go write a book or make something useful of it. That's just my opinion. Not talking shit or trying to shit on anyone. Just sharing my thoughts and opinions on how shit is. If you don't like it. Than kick rocks

[@DavidHughesKJN]

Chael Sonnen, I agree with the VAST majority of what you’re saying and I even use your videos to counter the online cult of Lee fans that claim that “MMA fighters say that Bruce Lee would be champion if he were alive today.” However, a couple of the things that you are saying are not accurate in this video, though I am sure that you believe that you are correct in saying it. First, there were many people who were cross training between many styles and systems of martial arts prior to Bruce Lee. For example, Kajukenbo was a hybrid, full contact street fighting art that was a blend of Karate, Japanese Jujitsu, Judo, Chuan Fa/Kung Fu and Boxing. It was developed in Hawaii in the 1940’s and had reached the mainland and Bay Area before Lee arrived there. In fact, Al Novak, one of the four men to reach 10th degree black belt in the system actually was a business partner of Lee’s who helped him open his school in the Bay Area. Kajukenbo cross trained in multiple systems in a lot more depth than Lee ever did. Btw, I am not a Kajukenbo practitioner. Even guys like Chuck Norris did more cross training and in greater depth than Lee ever did. Where Lee only dabbled in cross training, Norris went in greater depths earning black belts in Tang Soo Do, Taekwondo, Shito Ryu Karate and Judo before he ever met Lee. He later earned rankings in BJJ and Kyokushin too. Lee was the exponent of this philosophy that had the largest public platform. Even Norris created his own hybrid system, but since Lee had already popularized the concept, Norris gets little recognition for it. And I am sure that you’re well aware of Pankration from Ancient Greece. The second thing is that in Sport Karate point sparring tournaments for many decades groin strikes were a legal point in competition. Both groin kicks and punches were perfectly legal in American Sport Karate tournaments in the 60’s through the ‘80’s. And at least on the NBL circuit, they were legal points at least into the early 2000’s. I, myself was a pro kickboxer back in the full contact days fighting for the WKA and ISKA and more recently have competed in the Masters (old guys) Worlds division in both BJJ Black Belt Gi and No-Gi. So I am very much in agreement with the vast majority of what you say on this matter.

[@kanjilion9946]

Bruce lee died in the 60s, the fact that we still talk about him is proof that he is of legendary status. People need to give the man the respect he deserves because A. he is no longer around to defend his position and B. If it wasn't for people like Bruce lee bringing martial arts to the west, we may not have a fight culture like we do today. Bruce lee studied multiple disciplines of martial arts and came up with an entire new style of combat. people should respect that he came from humble beginnings and became obsessed with his craft, forging The person we all came to love and admire. Athletic and strong work ethic. Rip to a legend

[@nativeamericancowboy5028]

I concur 100 times.

[@kingbrahma5005]

He died in the 70s

[@willms7173]

1973, it is still an inspiring comment.

[@somethingoutdoors1412]

Bro they want to try and tear him down. But they never will no matter how hard they try.

[@nativeamericancowboy5028]

@@somethingoutdoors1412 I won't stand for anyone attacking Bruce

[@mato2677]

The mma gym i went to, it wasnt uncommon to see new comers throw up, the training sessions were only 1 hour but we were drenched and crawling out of the gym at the end

[@ronanscreed]

Not proven to be able to fight, is not the same as proven to be unable to fight. It's totally OK to say that Bruce Lee never publicly or professionally proved he was actually good at fighting. That's just true. However, to proclaim that he could NOT fight, as if you have any evidence on that specifically is just conjecture. To be fair, it's also BS to proclaim that Bruce lee was actually an amazing fighter, because that is just conjecture. That said, tons of real fighters from Bruce's time, many who knew him and trained with him, claim that he absolutely could fight. So, personally, I'm not going to proclaim that Bruce was or was not a great fighter, I will however lend more credence to those who actually knew him and trained with him than people of today who never even met the dude let alone spared with him.

[@ToneGuruLA]

Benny the Jet. He practiced and excelled at multiple arts by mid 1970s. By end 1970s he had black belts in many disciplines. I think its 7? Then Benny traveled the world to fight in any dojo, any arena, fighting many former and future champs. Nobody did multiple arts? I think not. BTW, love you and the show. PS. Benny fought em all... and usually finished them all by vicious KO.

[@12floz67]

The Jet was the real deal.

[@12floz67]

@D Legionnaire 🍻