Pay the Fine or Fight this Injustice?

Chael Sonnen talks about a recent traffic stop in West Linn, OR on this episode of Beyond the Fight
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[@aflippingg4340]

How nice of chael to let the officer go

[@Jbad99]

I remember the rage

[@dmcgarry07]

he didn’t get close

[@TheeJosephSantos]

Hahahaha.

[@scottbentley2825]

You win my friend! I fell out my chair laughing!

[@JakeTruthSnake]

This is just as confusing as tapping in a MMA fight. You're only supposed to lose the round... lol

[@theWayoftheHero]

I love when Chael aggressively corners us into becoming his support group

[@truthhasnoagenda3785]

Yea fight it. You said you don't back down from a fight. Why start with this one. There's no curb. He lied. Period

[@jasoncorey]

I just Google mapped West Linn Oregon McDonald's so I could open up street view and follow along with Chael's story 💪

[@born2win50]

Just done the same after seeing this 😂

[@booqrdoit9138]

Did the same thing. That is a BS place to put an "Only Turn Right" sign. As Chael said, you can tell that intersection is made to be a four way but I bet some jag from the city wanted to put that sign there for whatever reason

[@SMac86]

​@@booqrdoit9138Dont enough people die going to McDonald's every day? Maybe they are just trying to extend lives here.

[@MrPhilipRoberts]

I couldn’t find it. I’m on the corner of 8th and 10th but no right only

[@meiken417]

Hilarious. Chaels story time the best

[@marklarz4399]

You can't let injustice get close

[@Nicholas-HTX]

Lmao

[@TheeJosephSantos]

Hahahaha!

[@mattjackson2795]

Hahaha

[@joshuataylor7582]

Pay it or fight it… either way you make it go away and WIN. Undefeated, undisputed.

[@highjenks3d]

You always fight the injustice

[@ZWhiskey]

That sign will end up on the studio wall 😂

[@FazzzyV]

“Lethal Sign”

[@littlezero6399]

Everyone has a bad day, the cop forgot Chael pays taxes and owns the road. Forgive the officer and go after the root of the problem. The street sign people.

[@brandonhartley7462]

Paused the video 2 minutes in to say I'm so glad the road rage video has a sequel!!! It may be one of the best videos Chael's ever done! Ok...let's continue...

[@jessevelasquez3847]

Chael did you just take a fake sip of that drink? 😂😂😂

[@derekstevens3119]

These are by far the best type of chael videos

[@herogibson]

I get the feeling his day to day life is a lot like a seinfeld or curb your enthusiasm episode.

[@jasoncorey]

Ace Of Base saw the sign as well. Sorry I had to correct you Chael please don't hate me.

[@yamizanduel]

Chael for Police Chief 2024

[@21hatwell]

Chael P Sonnen never walks away from a fight!!!

[@shadow_realm47]

Chael keeps breaking the law in the lawless West Linn.

[@codycox2465]

Poor cop gonna have a heart attack watching this 😂 God bless Chael enjoy the weekend with fam!

[@meiken417]

Story time with uncle Chael is the best

[@bolverkvolsung6142]

I lived on grapevine road in West linn. The police there are hyper policing. Especially near the jiffy lube and chevron, close to the on ramp to 205. I know exactly where this is. There's no reasonable way to navigate with only a right turn. It's a huge waste of time.

[@MurphyUFC]

This is the content we are looking for

[@rcaseyc]

Stupid that they changed a 4 way stop into a right turn only. Chael, you're absolutely right! If I was the owner of the McDonald's or the gas station, I would be pissed! Directing traffic away from my business. The "right turn only" makes no sense. If they're going to change from a 4 way stop for "safety and traffic" purposes, then they should've put in one of those "roundabouts" that are popping up everywhere. Then traffic isn't forced away from the businesses. As far as your ticket, you have a valid argument. But I don't think it will work "because he's seeing the back of the sign." His argument and the court's argument will be that that's the officer's "beat" and he drives it all day long. He knows the speed limits, signs, etc. of his assigned area. Good luck though!! Judge should dismiss it just for the simple fact that you're Chael P!!!

[@WNY1996]

For clarification: if the ticket was specifically for jumping a curb, then you can definitely fight it and win. However, if your argument is the officer “didn’t see the sign” so he can’t issue you for it, you’re going to lose

[@BadGuyInc]

Why? I’m not disagreeing with you by the way I’m asking why. If the claim is that, I ignored a visible lawful posted sign it would seem that the officer would have to be able to testify that there was a visible lawful posted sign. From his vantage point, that simply would not be possible. Ticket is based on assumption An assumption by definition creates reasonable doubt.

[@ardnfast]

Yes, I agree. I'd like to know what the actual citation was for 🤔

[@ardnfast]

@BadGuyInc I'm taking it that the officer didn't get a photograph of the area including the sign, so the evidence would be in doubt, even though you saw it (the sign) prior to deciding what you're gonna do. A decent prosecutor would ask, what did you see? Was there any graffiti? Was it legible? Did you understand what the sign indicated... Good luck 👍

[@briangardner8140]

If you would like to waste hours of your life in court and lose then yeah fight it. Sounds like you got a failure to obey x sign or whatever they call it there. Curb or him mentioning a curb wouldnt matter on that. Maybe if you got reckless driving it might play into it. Id let it go and take your lump on that one.

[@WNY1996]

@@BadGuyInc no problem, I’m assuming the officer patrols the area and knows the area he works in. If that’s the case, the officer already knew the sign was there. So you get where I’m going with this? So even though he technically “didn’t see the sign” at that moment. He already knew it was there from past experience

[@andrewsindustries7722]

But where does Tony Ferguson fit into all of this?

[@RS-xq6je]

He's going to kick that sign post down

[@bourbonick]

sounds like a ticker trap. they just added the sign to give out tickets

[@tilsker7561]

God Bless the councillors of West Linn that decided to install this road sign.

[@BigNickAllDay]

Uncle Chaels ability to captivate an audience here is astounding. With that being said "Choose your battles wisely" and never lose the ability to simplify something. its truly precious.

[@joshuachurchwell7323]

Damn Chael you will definitely win this in court and you might even have a case to sue the officer and the city for loss of your valuable time. I mean 10min on KZbin makes you money, 10min on ESPN, of Fox Sports, 10min in the Octagon, etc. Figure up the most valuable 10min of your life and say That's how much they owe you for the traffic stop alone, then say, how much longer you going to keep me here at court? Cause that's gonna determine how much I'll be charging the court system. You can pull it off Chael, Cause your the Man!! Show them they don't mess with the Great Chael P Sonnen!!

[@muchneededdoseofreality]

I'm pretty sure this won"t help at all but let's give it a shot. A curb by definition is a stone or concrete edging to a street or path. So the curb is where the concrete that was used to pave the street ends and a different topping like dirt or rocks begin. Just because that particular portion isn't beveled or raised doesn"t mean there isn't a curb there or that you can"t jump it. Now Chael I know what you're thinking. "How can my car Jump? When i was a child I used to jump rope & My car didn't leave the ground or jump anything." No shit captain literal, next time use the process of elimination when reading a definition. So if there is no "Raised" portion of the curb then you would eliminate that part and move to the edge of the street part. Jump implies you overstepped your boundary Jump= to move suddenly or involuntarily : start. I now know why you miscalculate everything inappropriately. Oops I don't want to confuse you... since you're probably thinking hmmmm.. Mrs Calculate? Well there's no female calculator, problems or numbers here. Ok so how do I say this "I now know why you missed that spinning backfist in the 2nd Anderson fight!"

[@Jeffdugy]

6:24 the quickest sips in west Lynn.

[@billyarsenault1970]

Bro cannot even let a traffic incident go 😂😂

[@bchristopher2270]

Someone needs to film a documentary about this 4-way stop.

[@m.ianraymer9880]

The bad guy doesn’t pay traffic fines. You’re the gangster of West Lynn, Chael P Sonnen! let’s go!

[@tadgodsey]

Chael never backs down from a fight. That dude called you by name. Make the walk.

[@citizencrumb2075]

Only an undefeated man would make him testify that he couldn’t see the sign. Brilliance.

[@TheRealRobertFlowers]

“I know he’s watching this” 10-8 round for Chael

[@robertevans5205]

I never forget these stories chael when the goat speaks you listen

[@MS-mr4zm]

I made my wife watch this & she just said “this is exactly why I hate you sometimes”😂😂😂😂

[@RS-xq6je]

I've done the same but she doesn't mind his voice in the background compared to some of the other channels (she hates accents 😂) she did say Chael looks like Jeffrey Dahmer tho 😂

[@sicotic2897]

Chael. You are the BOSS of West Linn. Nobody can tell you what you can or can not do in there. Do act accordingly. They are worms, you are the man in there!

[@thewalkingjuju]

The sign says "Must Turn Right" indicating that no left turn is permitted. It didn't say "Right Turn Only" which could still be confused with no left turn being permitted. The sign also didn't say "Do Not Go Straight Must Turn Right", so how could you know that the sign implied that going straight isn't permitted?! Also, if there isn't a sign saying "ONE WAY EXIT ONLY" on the other side, then you have a much better chance of getting the citation dropped! Take pictures of the sign and the intersection to show the court irrefutable evidence of why you claim there is no curb to jump! #NotGuilty

[@freedomissue7824]

Chael the type of guy to beat up 5 stop signs at one time

[@Chacason]

When he said there was no curb but there was a something, I lost it

[@WesternCivil]

I think Chael is right about this one, the sign should be in field of view for the officer to interpret the sign posted.

[@seanrichter3730]

I know that part very well, just like the stop in Gladstone and Oregon City. The West Linn officer will bring up at 4 way the " right of way" law- which either way determines the rules of the road.

[@sovietspy86]

Please go to court for this one!!! We all want to know what happens!!!!! Please!!!!!!!!!!

[@Hogibaer]

Would the technicality of the officer not having been able to see the sign have changed if he went back together with you right after the violation to take a shared look at the sign (i.e. to prove that he was right in his assumption)? Difference to the hearsay-story would be that the "cause" for the violation was still in effect. Reg to "jump the curb" it would be interesting if a traffic officer is allowed to use the expression in the broad slang sense of "making a (non-specific) mistake while driving". Anyhow, all the best!

[@danieldexter3550]

I think a warning and education about what the sign means would've been more appropriate! Unless you have a record of disregard for traffic laws. Fight the ticket, but ask for clarification on the sign and definition of a "curb". That's a case worth making

[@DanBCooper]

You can't fight City Hall.....but MY Uncle Chael CAN !!!

[@shadow_realm47]

you still kicking IT! I knew you were alive!

[@PatricksPoetry]

you should run for the city office to get the sign changed. get the sign taken down legally.

[@JamesSmith-sw3nk]

Chael should make a video showing this 4way stop. sign and no curb.

[@justingreen4450]

Chaellator still out here cleaning up the mean streets of West Linn.

[@brodythebrain]

Chael asks cops for their license and registration "I know you were a cop yesterday but I don't know if you got fired since then"

[@wml1736]

Only one way to find out- challenge and see what happens- worst case you still have a ticket. Make sure to take pics with you to prove no curb, and sign not visible from Officer's perspective. Good luck😉

[@lathamroman4599]

Chael, you are undefeated. You have never lost a round. If you fight this in court, there's no doubt what's the outcome will be!😂

[@OverproofMMA]

Did he drive straight through a roundabout?

[@mmamath1817]

These types of videos are my favorite Chael videos!

[@LittleBigHorns]

He added the curb just to be the winner..

[@gimlis77]

I would fill out the check. However, I've known three people that fought traffic tickets. They each won and had to pay nothing.

[@Wooder_Designs]

Cop might say he saw the back side of the sign? The curb thing ultimately wouldn't matter because theyre allowed to lie to you. The sign is the only thing that would matter.

[@LowBlow_Nickal]

You got heel hooked by Craig Jones inside 2 minutes

[@BBKing1977]

Chael saw the sign, and it opened up his eyes, he saw the sign.

[@jiito808]

Slow week huh?

[@kevinolley]

These are the best chael videos. I highly recommend the "get in the hole" story if you have not seen

[@gamebredduramax71]

Wait until the court date, then request a new court date, your allowed to do so, 9 times out of ten the cop don’t show and gets dismissed. When you change the date he has to come when you say which may interfere with his schedule or flat out forgets about it

[@Jimbojones3030]

Uncle Chael fighting Anderson Silva to have money to hire an attorney for this lol

[@herogibson]

That officer tapped

[@Ignitionite]

The office saw the sign, and it opened up his life. He is happy now living without you. Oh-oh-oh-oh-ohhowo.

[@jondiaz3329]

I can only say if it was me I'd just pay it. Courts are generally not in the habit of taking the side of the citizenry vs any member of the judicial system or law enforcement. You really just need to ask the question "who has better facts?" A judge's job is to interpret the law according to the facts. If you don't have good facts you don't have a shot in court no matter how right you might be objectively. If you're not disputing any facts and the officer was legally right to issue the ticket there's no case imo.

[@hydrostatic3g]

My friend who often mispronounce’s names similar to Chael came over for Fury vs Usyk. He doesn’t know much about MMA at all. At some point in the night, he brought up the fact that he likes that guy “Chal” on KZbin. Knowing what I know about Chael and names, I started laughing due to the outright irony of his statement. He couldn’t understand what I was laughing about and I didn’t even try to explain it. “Chal” lmao

[@smithjones1906]

I think it would be noble for the king of West Linn to demonstrate that even he is subject to his kingdom's laws.

[@levipolacek6938]

imma need you to fight this so i get a part three thanks champ

[@dagobertoespinoza9094]

Stop signs have a specific design unlike other signs. Even if seen from behind you must identify it.

[@jiujitsuislife4256]

Videos like this make me realize that Uncle Chael is the Larry David of mma iykyk

[@christophersiddall7270]

I hope uncle chael doesn’t order the officers termination.

[@brewster7723]

Don’t fight it, Chael. As a LE officer for over 20 years. He knew the sign was there, or he wouldn’t have stopped you. If it is in fact the money, the judge will charge you the citation, plus court costs. Just pay it and turn right.

[@TrappyJenkins]

Chael is getting bill clinton levels of philosophy of what words actually mean

[@bendaves77]

There's a organizing that is country wide. You contact them and they put you in contact with a great traffic lawyer in your area. You won't save money by doing this but atleast your money will go to someone who is willing to defend your actions rather than a person who is interested in writing you a fine for everything that they don't see legal

[@DaBlaccGhost]

Id pay so much money to see chael body camera footage

[@andrewbrown8927]

Here is a tip for you. It's got me out of 2 running stop sign tickets. Signs have to be posted at very specific spots by the county. If a sign is 6 inches off from where it should be or there is any thing off with placement. Then it is not a legal sign. I'm sure uncle chael can beat any court case what are we talking about here anyways.

[@sovietspy86]

Chael still undefeated!!!

[@mcbingoitz8782]

Yes i remember. Uncle Chael made left at the round- about.

[@MainCardMinute]

This is the type of content I come here for

[@samk.8687]

New mythical fighter, motorcycle cop

[@AustinYoung-z9u]

Was 16 with 4 people riding up front of my truck speeding got pulled over. The cop let me pass on the speeding but gave me a wreckless and said I hit a curb. I didn’t. And the officer that first stopped me with the supposed video of me hitting the curb left when three more officers came. Either way I took that and the no seatbelt tickets and was happy because they didn’t find the weed in the back seat. Paid the ticket cash and my grandparents to this day 15 years later never found out.

[@michaelinsc9724]

Only Chael would think a right turn only sign means you can turn right or go straight. 😂😂😂😂😂 The curb isnt the issue. The sign is.

[@SaintBrickalous]

Driving through west linn later today, will report back if i see the sign or not.

[@bendaves77]

I saw the sign and it opened my eyes, I saw the sign.. life is demanding without understanding..

[@mmatrainee]

You drive a raptor, curbs are like tic-tacs

[@ninoswanna6100]

I always say it. YOU ARE A LEGEND!!! 😂

[@decafdoctorthunder2189]

Chael’s greatest opponent: Anderson or the 4-Way outside the studio?

[@astronut1728]

Ooo a sequel

[@moneyraylucas7161]

NOT GUILTY! No one beats the Bad Guy in court

[@LittleBigHorns]

Fight it.. you are the bad guy we need you to stand up for justice

[@hoot9356]

First thing we need to talk about is whatever is green in front of you reflects off your glasses and is very annoying, please move or get rid of it. Second, absolutely you should fight it and call him out on it. Take a photo from where his point of view and have him tell you what it says as he sees it. Do the same with the intersection and have him point out what curb he was referring to when he said “you jumped a curb”. But first get rid of that green thing in front of you. Thanks

[@billc5780]

If Chael pays we riot.

[@jeffvinje3438]

So who is going to take the sign down?

[@dannyzuko7182]

The sign says all traffic must make a right. So I jumped out the truck and yelled at the officer, Hey! What gives you the right.

[@gvraig]

Chael is undefeated in court

[@gentlesnot1864]

Yo what the hell is happening

[@fredb3143]

-the officer «I Saw the sign it was last night» -Cheal «well it was a long time ago how can you recall having seen a sign as far as last night»

[@MrPhilipRoberts]

Went on google street maps. Could not find this junction

[@Razear]

Chael doesn't even need to show up to traffic court. All he has to do is e-mail this video to the presiding judge.

[@KUCaldog187]

this video needs to be sent to the commission granting Chael his fighters license