Does shabda make pratyaksha invalid? Part 1 The Monk's Podcast 206 with Radhika Raman Prabhu

[@malgorzataojoj4256]

Thank you! but the talks seems to end in the middle?

[@madhavsinghsodhi1614]

It's only part 1

[@narasimhuluyarrajowdu9477]

Hare Krishna

[@RAHULVERMA-kj8ml]

Dandwat pranaam prabhus🙏🙏

[@soumyagupta7931]

hare krishna prabhus. you refer in this conversation to "our previous conversation".. pls provide link, would like to listen to the previous conversation

[@sandy_vb]

One situation I was hoping would be discussed in this talk is when the claims made by प्रत्यक्ष and शब्द are mutually exclusive, meaning only one of them could be true, and by implication, the other would be necessarily false. One example is that of relative placements of earth, sun and moon. The purport of 8.10.38 conclusively establishes the position Prabhupada held. There are several similar examples.

[@observer-uz9tf]

It doesn't, because Prabhupada changed his position after a disciple pointed out that the battle did not take place on earth.

[@sandy_vb]

@@observer-uz9tf That retraction happened only for the context of that verse where Prabhupada mistook the battlefield to be earth. The point about Earth-Sun-Moon is a corollary -- it is a position Prabhupada held independently, and has nothing to do with the context of this verse.

[@observer-uz9tf]

@@sandy_vb There are other problems with 8.10.38 purport. The words "apparently" and "supposed" leave some room for other interpretations. My reading is that this purport alone does not establish his position. Other places may do it, though. I have not done a systematic study so I would not be able to tell either way.

[@sandy_vb]

@@observer-uz9tf are you saying that sun being closer to the earth than the moon is not a consistent position Prabhupada held?

[@observer-uz9tf]

@@sandy_vb this one purport does not seem to be conclusive, although all the other statements might well be.

[@prahladananda]

One question was raised by big philosophers that Lord described his own theory in the form of Vedic literatures. Therefore we will not accept. As far as I rememberJaimini is the sage who raised this one. Let us know how to reconcile this issue by logic? They only understand logic.

[@sagidegon9003]

❤

[@karthiks7861]

Its time to start accepting and seeing bhagavatam as work of art. A work of art can be great and requires no scientific endorsement to capture peoples minds. The attempt to compete childishly with scientific findings seem unncessary and obfuscating the artistic endeavor of Vyasadev.

[@sharadkumar123]

So sun is closer to earth than moon 🌙 ??

[@AshwinChauhan77]

Yatha Srishti Tatha Mati

[@sharadkumar123]

@@AshwinChauhan77 "संस्कृतभाषायां लिखितमिति सत्यं न भवति, मूढता सर्वभाषासु मूढता एव भवति"

[@Newbie122]

Hare krishna