Chakra vs Cursed Energy - Which Is Better?

[@thegoldenghoti7562]

Hey hey, look what I found, a pin 📍

[@adrianmarion4625]

Stop putting random objects in your mouth

[@Sussygojo]

@@adrianmarion4625bud what

[@CoolOkay_]

Why dudes wanna be pinned so much? Six needs to get the gay scouter again. 🤨

[@lonkstakes]

I fought a guy with cursed energy outside an Arby’s one time

[@sixfromtokyo]

no the FUCK you didn't

[@RSorkin]

@@sixfromtokyoNo no, it’s true, i was the guy

[@abrahamlincoln7907]

His name was Pre (he smelly)

[@CrossBearerTheCub]

@@sixfromtokyo I can vouch for him, I was the Arby's

[@cryptic_beatz2127]

Bro this has me rolling

[@TheRealWoopSlap]

I've always liked Chakra because of how fun it is. It’s not overcomplicated nor too simplistic. It's straight down the middle.

[@ivantheenigma577]

The second Nanami said that explaining your ability to your opponent made it stronger, I was sold on the power system. Then we have Todo analyze Hanami's abilities, list off all of them, and even consider that they might all be bluffs while he himself bluffs her with his ability explanation. Generally the closer a power system is to Nen/Stands, and/or the more creativity that exists, the more I will like it. "What can rubber possibly do?" Oh, you just wait.

[@Seinsmelled]

stands are 100x better and less confusing then cursed energy

[@ivantheenigma577]

@@Seinsmelled Idk about less confusing, but Jojo's definitely treats abilities with a lot more respect and creativity than almost any other series. D'arby the Gambler is peak for me. Me: "What's your power." Other person: "If you touch this outlet you become magnetized which gets stronger over time." Me: "That sounds trash." Maria: "It's a Stand Ability." Me: "Damn ***** that's all you had to say."

[@ri_c_e]

@@Seinsmelled nah

[@murddeath]

My stand lets me turn anything and everything at a 90 degree angle. Prepare to have your atoms fucked up.

[@villain9482]

I'm ngl I love cursed energy but Jesus Christ man binding vows piss me off

[@pamajam4038]

Guess this will act as my Curse Energy 101

[@sixfromtokyo]

It most definitely will not lmao

[@yebzy]

​@@sixfromtokyo so make it then

[@sixfromtokyo]

@@yebzy Sure

[@BALAOFMANDALORE]

​@@yebzybroken ronin has made a pretty good explanation video on cursed energy.

[@matijajunger4800]

I think I like chakra more because the characters in Naruto can just learn powerful jutsu or make their own to get stronger and they can have different types of moves in their arsenal. In JJK a ton is determined by ur innate CT and CE amount which u can't really change. I love domain expansion and the various techniques to counter it tho and RCT is also super cool.

[@ΦάντασματοῦΘεοῦ]

"The best power system in history vs the best power system of today"

[@yce.info.]

Chakra is definitely not the best in history

[@medicbag-uc2hm]

Nah. Id win

[@ΦάντασματοῦΘεοῦ]

​@@medicbag-uc2hm stand proud cursed energy, you were unique

[@sagestrongbear]

I missed the part of the video about Nen so you’re comment is inaccurate

[@beatxfavsFaa]

​@@sagestrongbearnah

[@turnerbrawley4715]

Cursed energy is a video game based power system while chakra is a story focused power system

[@GuiltyGal]

Black Flash 🤜💥 = *CRITICAL HIT*

[@RSorkin]

It’s funny, because despite that statement being true, the exact opposite is occurring. The jjk cursed clash game is terrible while the anime is goated

[@KingOfSpeed907]

I like the way JJK handles basic physical strength and speed buffs from cursed energy, mostly because you’re given clear ways to increase it during a battle and you can become someone extremely notable without having a technique

[@kyrudo]

I like chakra because its so widely available vs Cursed Energy. You can go to any village and enroll in a school. There’s whole libraries with the history of jutsu (that are available to the public). My issue with Cursed Energy is that unless you’re part of that top %1 of sorcersors you are kinda hosed in that verse. You aint gonna get Gojo as a teacher or have Yuta as a companion. So with all being equal, I just like Chakra better.

[@thecod2345]

The thing I like about cursed energy (besides the strategy being frankly way more fun) is how specialized the sorcerers are. With chakra, most ninja fight the same with the main difference being a kekkei genkai or chakra nature. Even if you have a special kekkei genkai or chakra nature, they rarely affect how the ninja fights too much. However jujutsu sorcerers entire fighting style revolves around their cursed techniques, and in the case of Yuji, revolves around how he combats complicated cursed techniques with a simple moveset. It’s fascinating watching any 2 sorcerers fight because there’s potentially limitless ways it can go while with ninja, it’s not the same every time, but theres just so much less emphasis on unique abilities.

[@Aishai26]

I agree but I don't think its down to chakra rather the techniques used from it was neglected in exchange for "Cool power move" Chidori, Rasengan, Susano. They were on the right track in Naruto part 1 where you'd get more technical all of the students were very different with unique abilities past down from their parents or teachers. I think JJK was limited with how much a character could learn. Yes you can get RCT DE but they're quite rare and often locked to your technique anyway. In Naruto if a certain technique didn't work you could use a way more than that like Ninjutsu, Taijutsu and Genjutsu. Unless your Lee but he could still use weapons, kunai for example.

[@afro025]

You're acting like every shinobi in Naruto has the exact same arsenal though. Just like cursed techniques, the vast majority of clans in Naruto have their own unique jutsu, and the shinobi of those clans revolve their entire fighting style around those jutsus. Not every person in the series is using the Rasengan or the Shadow Clone Jutsu, each and every character has their own signature techniques which they use in combat. Just take Shikamaru's fight against Temari, who both have completely different fighting styles, due to the jutsu they specialize in.

[@Aishai26]

@@afro025 Yeah that's what I mean in part 1 but even then it's more technical back part one where strats were used. Later on tho the amount of chakra you had = big attack the unique side started to matter less. the unique side didn't matter as much as you could output. Take Madaras Majestic Flame for example. To me is just a super amped fireball jutsu against the alliance. It's also just cause of his amount of chakra instead of "Unique Technique" Yamato has hashirama cells and can use "Wood style" which was no where near as Offensively potent as hashirama simply because of the chakra amount.

[@thecod2345]

@@afro025 True, but even then their applications are largely the same and specialists are rarely used creatively. For example, take Rock Lee and compare him with Toji. Toji constantly uses his enhanced physical capabilities and invisible man status very creatively by hiding cursed tools and mixing them with deadly regular weaponry. Rock Lee is largely hand to hand, which is fine, but it’s also interesting how he doesn’t quickly turn on one or two gates to throw a kunai at a far faster speed than the opponent expects and mortally wound the enemy. Quick applications of 2 gates within combat to slow down and speed up to keep the opponent on edge, with the main weaknesses being sharingan users being able to adjust to it fairly easily. Just by applying a bit of creativity, Naruto could have used its world and power system in far more strategic ways. Especially if you combine poisons with kunai and treat them as actual threats past the first arc.

[@afro025]

@@thecod2345 Dawg no offense but this is such a terrible argument 😭 have you even watched Naruto? Firstly, the example you use is between two characters that can't even use cursed energy or chakra, so saying that "Toji is more creative" doesn't mean that cursed energy is a more creative power system than chakra. Secondly, we see in his fight against Gaara he tries throwing kunai and shuriken at him with his immense strength, but his sand blocks all of it, not to mention Gaara's sand armor on his skin make kunai and shuriken completely useless against him. And thirdly, that's not how the gates work. It's not something Rock Lee can pop open in a second and then turn it off. Naruto's world and power system already has tons of creativity in it, with characters using chakra in such creative ways. Naruto's entire plan against Zabuza with how he transforms into a shuriken, and has Sasuke disguise it under the shadow of another shuriken, in order to break Kakashi out of the water prison is such an ingenuous use of chakra, and this is only the tip of the iceburg. Throughout the Chunin Exams we see so many unique uses for character's jutsus that don't involve nature releases or kekkai genkais. Shino using his bugs to clog up Zaku's arms, so that when he uses his sound jutsu it just blows off his arms, or Shikamaru using the terrain around him and his shadow paralysis jutsu to incapacitate Kin, without even landing a finger on her. These are all strategic and creative uses of their jutsu that don't involve "I'm stronger than you so I win", and shows the versatility of chakra as a power system.

[@NieOrginalny]

As far as rating power systems, I prefer ones that lean more into univerally learnable aspects, than those than lean into unique abilities, because the the former is more like, you know, a system, while the latter is more like a superpower lottery. Nen is sort of the only one that found a happy marriage of those two concepts, since it's very focused on individual techniques, except these techniques are (mostly, damn you specialization) made from scratch by the characters from the invidual components of the system that we were given an understanding of first.

[@Titanic_Tuna]

Yeah I feel the same. Nen and Chakra are actual systems whereas CE is closer to the Esper powers from Index.

[@chance2110]

@@Titanic_Tuna I like a mix of universal and unique powers. Toaru does it the best I’d say and Naruto does it well.

[@arinzechukwuonyekwuluje2218]

​@@Titanic_Tunathat kind of depends, chakra there's a limit to how much chakra someone can gain , once u reach that limit no matter how u train your chakra won't increase so your genetics play a big factor .but with cursed energy, even if u are born with low cursed energy as long as u can increase your ce control u should be fine and be able to use higher techniques

[@oz9220]

Nope, you're mistaken, and it makes me question if you ever watched/ read the series. Cursed energy is a power system with general techniques that everyone can use without having a particular technique given to them from birth. Examples include: 1-cursed energy reinforcement 2- barrier techniques with their uses ( simple domain, domain amplification, hollow wicker basket) 3- reverse cursed technique ( healing) 4- Black flash 5- Binding vows. 6- Falling blossom emotion These are techniques that can be used without having a cursed technique handed from birth and have been explained by the author and have been used time and time again in JJK fights. Of course, there are special abilities for each sorcerer that can give them an advantage, but anyone without them can still be a pretty strong sorcerer by mastering the basic jujutsu I have mentioned above.

[@oz9220]

@@chance2110 JJK does that with general techniques that every sorcerer can master, as well as special abilities given to certain sorcerers from birth, which can give them a significant edge in battle.

[@akira6645]

Testosterone levels > any power system

[@eddielopez6731]

Facts👏🏾

[@UNLUCKYONE-cj8cf]

Toji and rock lee agrees

[@GaionSputro]

Its called "reality".

[@MichaelMcDoesntExist]

Baki power system

[@zefem]

Baki logic

[@CJ-qv4sd]

Hot take but the only thing that makes cursed energy really cool compared to other power systems is the concept of domain expansion

[@afro025]

Yeah I completely agree. Without domain expansions, I don't think people would be as interested in cursed energy as a power system. It'd just be considered a knockoff of Nen or smth

[@ri_c_e]

really enjoy Black Flash, Extension Techniques, The Few Maximum Techniques, other barriers like Blossom, Simple, Wicker and Amplification, the "Nen" Conditions, The few RCTs we saw and shikigami alot man. Heavenly restriction is ight ig but bro wouldn't you agree that if you take out the most important part of any power system the quality dips lmao?

[@CJ-qv4sd]

@@ri_c_e not for every power system because in Naruto you can still be pretty cool and overpowered without the use of Genjutsu which just goes to show how versatile chakra as a power system is than CE and in bleach you can still be a god tier character that has a really cool ability without the use of a bankai or a zanpakuto like quincies and hollows. but with cursed energy the only thing about it that makes it appealing to most people are domain expansions and how it’s the pinnacle of jujutsu

[@S1l_v2r]

@@CJ-qv4sd ofc you gonna use genjutsu, the jutsu that was completely forgotten after itachi died. Let's be honest here, what would naruto be without the tailed beasts? i mean its very much compareable in popularity to domain expansion? If you said that there are still alot of other unique things you can do with the power system without tailed beasts, you see the point in having jjk without domain expansion. If you say that not having tailed beasts in the series is pointless, congrats, you made yourself your biggest opp.

[@S1l_v2r]

@@CJ-qv4sd Now on another point, how many fights did jjk have that did not revolve around domain expansion? let's see, we have most of the fights in the beginning of the story, goodwill event didn't have any, more then half of shibuya, hidden inventory, yuji's execution arc, culling games arc had more then enough fights that had many outcomes that lead to fighters that did have domain expansions use other abilities outside of it, sukuna vs gojo had many aspects in the fight outside of domain expansion, and the final fight we had with the sukuna cycle had many different aspects of the power system all collide, included but not limited to domain expansions. Heck jjk 0 didn't even have domain expantion even in concept when it was written, this arc was fire. CE has alot more to offer other then just domain expansion and most readers are all for it, after its way more enjoyable then the disappointment alot of naruto fans had to suffer with how some characters got their powerups in the war arc. I do not mind if someone might not like jjk as a series or prefers other power systems instead of CE, I'm actually quite for it, but there's a whole new level of disconnect you get when you see someone say that CE has nothing to offer without domain expansion.

[@ДавидГригорьев-ф3ж]

Also, people with Hashirama cells are definitely more common than Reverse curse energy. Kabuto, Orochimaru, Naruto, Obito, Madara, Mitsuki and all his clones, all Shin Uchiha clones probably got that one too.

[@lightspeed4615]

I have premium so I typically don't look at the visuals but Shoutout to the editor! Bro cooked!!!!!

[@UnwantedGhost1-anz25]

I agree with the outcome in this video.

[@AnimeFan22858]

now this is what i have been waiting for 🔥🔥🔥

[@emssasukeisunderrated7946]

Best power system ever is still stands but chakra and cursed energy are up there with nen and alchemy too (would say quirks but it's like a watered-down version of stands) or even limiters in OPM. I like how well balanced chakra generally is but also like how cursed energy is more user-specific. Chakra CAN be user-specific but typically isn't. Case in point, everyone has their natural chakra affinity but someone like Sasuke, cause of him being an Uchiha has multiple natural affinities being fire and lightning. This also doesn't mean he can't and doesn't master more just that his strongest attacks are going to more so be fire and lightning release attacks. I like that this gives versatility but also cause it isn't user specific, things that once had high importance to clan or user specific techniques now aren't. Then again, I guess having an alien race create all the jutsu cause it's derived from the god of that alien race and his divine abilities would change how one can view the power system. I still like chakra though

[@qazdr6]

I think Kishimoto tried keep the core abilities of his main cast simple to keep Naruto accessible - apart from Yuji, Gege tended to enjoy making more complex abilities and just assumed the audience would keep up

[@diefty94]

It's easily Cursed Energy, one of the best power systems. It's heavily inspired on the best shonen manga power system, Nen from Hunter x Hunter.

[@JKBlackClover]

Chakra would be my favorite power system if half its rules didn’t get abandoned. So many aspects of it just got forgotten about like hand signs, genjutsu, elemental weakness, even ninjutsu for a while became useless because of all the absorption.

[@gabrielsalahi3656]

Saying Zabuza is stronger than Sukuna is pretty funny. I hope it was so more people would comment because it’s working

[@Hcjeiwjc]

i mean stat wise similar but it'd be hard for him to tank hits like de

[@gabrielsalahi3656]

@@Hcjeiwjc You’d REALLY have to up scale Zabuza’s speed for him to keep up and REALLY weaken Sukuna who’s Flame Arrow in Shibuya has been calc’d to be anywhere between nuke level to hundreds of nukes. And I don’t think Zabuza would take a nuke exploding in his face

[@Hcjeiwjc]

@@gabrielsalahi3656 speed wise he can compete and it was never calced near that high. Even Gojo’s 200% hollow purple isn’t strong enough to destroy a small city which a nuke can easily do

[@gabrielsalahi3656]

@@Hcjeiwjc Area of effect =\= Attack Potency While Sukuna only destroyed a 140meter radius circle, he VAPORIZED it. The difference in energy required to break concrete is tens of thousands of times less than the amount of energy it would take to vaporize it Picture a bullet vs a punch, a punch actually has 3 times the amount of energy as a bullet, but clearly the bullet does more damage, why is this? Well because all of a bullets energy is only focused at a single point This is literally what Sukuna did with his Flame Arrow, the narrator even stated that he made it smaller. If Sukuna wanted to blow up a country he EASILY count

[@thelostwanderergames4287]

@@gabrielsalahi3656zabuza gets annihilated but he’s way faster

[@leaffinite2001]

CE is more entertaining on a moment to moment basis, but it does this by being vague and somewhat random. It works more as a writing tool to let gege create surprising moments or complicated power interactions with binding vows, or the basically random personal abilities. But chakra is actually explained fully? Almost every ability, with maybe the exception of some of the late shippuden hax abilities or whatever the fuck is going on in boruto (idk idc), can be explained by the chakra rules given to the reader. It also functions as a part of narutos worldbuilding, whjch ce kinda does with the whole negative energy becomes ce, and then cursed spirits, but i think naruto uses it better in this regard if only because naruto actually has a world to build. Chakra feels like a facet of the world naruto takes place in, while ce feels like a shonen powersystem designed to make interesting fights. Its just different. I personally think chakra is better, since its far better implemented into the series world, and does a far better job being an actually explained system, while ce in jjk is basically a bunch of ideas slammed together that only gets expanded upon when gege needs to, leaving him open to make stuff up when he wants. Really the only thing in jjk i think is actually really cool is domains and rct, which are actually connected to the base elements of the system and are consistent. Mostly. Kinda. Well rct is. Stuff like the hand signs and chanting sound cool, but they just sorta happen. Black flashes look cool, but they just sorta happen. They are explained post hoc, which i think is kinda sloppy writing, especially black flashes being literally random crits in tf2, its so lame idk how ppl get hype for it. Like they didnt do anything! Gege just decided they could win now! Its so lame. And yeah, individual ces in jjk makes for more complicated fights (sometimes, actually not that much), when you compare to other complicated-individual-powers shonen systems like stands in jojo or nen abilities in hxh, jjk does a much worse job justifying the uniqueness of each ability, or even just explaining the rules of the abilities. Most people still dont understand the way the ten shadows fusions work, when its one of the most important ces in the story. In jojo stands are just as if not more random, but the series actually utilizes that to make the fights all about strategy and figuring out each others abilities, while jjk uses binding vows (aka geges writing cheat code) to justify having the characters explain their abilities, to avoid as much of that as possible. I dont even have to get into hxh, we all know its power system is goated as far as actually justifying and explaining some of the most random abilities ever. Like sure, jjk is more unique than naruto in this regard, but at least naruto is able to fully quantify its simpler system. Tbh i think its kinda silly that you basically give jjk the dub for being more unique, and give naruto props for combat? Which was surprising to me. Narutos system should get props for being an actual system tbh. Jjks system is only unique when compared to naruto; its a mishmash of various elements from other shonen systems, which is fine, but not actually all that unique. Domains are like the closest it gets. Actually idk if any other shonen has dared to put random crits (black flashes) in its story, but im not sure thats an advantage for jjk.

[@leaffinite2001]

I guess i should also say that i do think jjks system is more efficiently constructed to create clickbait/hype moments? And theres a real argument that its the better system from the perspective of a shonen writer, since it allows gege to have basically whatever he wants to happen happen and easily create "hype" with stupid shit like black flashes. However personally i think narutos system is better as a power system in a vacuum. To illustrate; imagine if you had access to chakra, just like a naruto character. You immediately know what consequences that could have, since narutos system is more fully explained and explored, with only a few elements being up to chance (like what nature you have, or your personal chakra quantity, which can still be effected by training). Now if you imagine having cursed energy like jjk, its totally different. You know what abilities you could theoretically gain access to, ces, des, etc, but what those abilities might actually be is random, so outside of like rct and amping, theres no real system to aquiring abilities or determining what abilities an individual might have access to.

[@afro025]

i completely agree with everything that you wrote 🙏 and i'm glad someone finally said it instead of meatriding CE and treating it like the best thing that has blessed battle shonen

[@ErictheConqueror-gy6es]

Bourto added more context to power system and explain the war haxs and stuff

[@oz9220]

Black flashes are hype because of how rare it is ( disregarding Yuji, ofc lmao). It is sorta like winning a lottery, which transforms the proficiency of a sorcerer's cursed energy manipulation abilities, giving him the edge in battle Yuji kind of ruins it, seeing how frequently he uses black flash ( which is one of my few gripes) but besides that it is a surprise move for the opponent and the user since it is so random ( like jackpot machines for example). Yes, I agree that the basic techniques of jujutsu all feel disjoint. But it does leave a lot of room for strategy. The binding vow " showing one's hand allows a user to make their techniques more effective( reward) by explaining how their cursed technique works because it is much more risky fighting a knowledgeable foe. The techniques do not have to be explained fully, even a basic explanation of it will do. This allows the person explaining to mislead their opponent, giving room for mind games. Even matchups between techniques and how those techniques are used determine who will win the fight. If a sorcerer has the perfect cursed technique to counter another user's technique but does not know the right strategy to utilize it, he/ she will lose despite all of that advantage and vice versa. Contrary to what you had said, the author does explain most of the abilities, with a few exceptions like the ten shadows.

[@leaffinite2001]

@oz9220 nothing you said is contrary to my points; i didnt say they dont explain abilities, i said they were awful at it. And everything you said about black flashes supports my dislike of them.

[@kandymanis]

Wonder of U representation at the start? Liked.

[@tjadams98]

Good ass topic man good shit. I don’t know if I’ve ever heard anyone say that chakra is the best power system tho😂

[@michaeleanthonyjr]

When you think about it, Binding Vows could be used to store excess Cursed Energy if you set the terms. Similar to what Nanami does

[@whispr_2ME]

I know you mainly cover Naruto and JJK, but it'd be cool to see a comparison between Cursed Energy and other systems like Nen, Stands, Zanpakuto, etc as far as how they serve as reflections of the characters themselves. For newer shounen: I think JJK stands out as doing this particularly well. Edit: I do think Naruto has some instances of this, but less direct. Like I think Itachi's heavy usage of genjutsu is a reflection of his true nature as a pacifist.

[@animedan3934]

In my opinion chakra is heavily underutilised many characters would be powerful if they take advantage it for example a kekei genkai is a combo of 2 natures like wind and water make ice ...characters like haku dont need water or wind to make ice they just have it.. but others who have both elements should be able to mimic basic uses of the application...the most recent example is sasuke vs the dinosaur he doesn't have ice release yet he can still make it using water and air.....idk i think thats one reason chakra is often forgotten or disregarded although it has limitless potential

[@qstar1237]

I think its possible but only for basic cases. like you could replicate ice or lava since that's simple but you wouldnt be able to replicate wood or magnet style. also pretty sure trying to replace the combinations would require extreme chakra control which I kinda doubt most people would have.

[@Jsipki265]

The problem is that it exhausts so much chakra compared to kekei genkai who can naturally combine these chakra natures flawlessly

[@nirjhar4803]

From what's understood you need a godlike level of Chakra control + understanding of chakra natures, in order to seamlessly combine 2 chakra natures to essentially mimic Kekkei Genkai to that level. Sasuke was likely capable of doing that because he had possesed a Rinnegan back then. (Since the Rinnegan does influence your potential for mastery over chakra natures). Its sort of like Six Eyes relation with Limitless. CE Control at an atomic level. Although I do think there should be a way to impart knowledge/abilities like that on Non-Rinnegan/Universal Comprehension users.

[@dontwatchmyvideoace1383]

Sasuke has the rinnegan which is why he could do that.

[@MikeHawk-z1r]

i think both jjk and naruto use reincarnation as a means of strength pretty similarly. put simply, by having a strong being reincarnate and use their power through your body, you effectively gain immense strength at the cost of loss of control. sukuna and yuji, boruto and momoshiki.

[@johncrowley3322]

15:17 every mangekyo sharingan user also has access to reality warping in izanami/izanagi that essentially doubles their utility. Along with unique astral projections that can wield top tier weapons

[@thehonoredone2361]

Love both power systems but alas they both sadly lack in the Demon back.

[@ryanmitindonga5770]

Don't forget the kokugan kawaki dojutsu

[@sageanimations2463]

Cursed energy pretty much just an energy that can be used to get a black flash or do a binding vow to amp a cursed technique, but without a technique you basically only have simple domain, cursed energy punches, RCT, domain amp. Chakra because of its ability to be used without a bloodline based ability, has more applications than cursed energy. We see tobirama who didn't have a unique inherited style just straight up copy some of his brother's abilities like the wood clone, he named his into a shadow clone. He was also able to revive the dead.

[@MykeSmith-ed7od]

Funny how tsunade survived being bisected but gojo didn’t lmao 💀☠️

[@ErictheConqueror-gy6es]

she survived and saved the other kage while being in half

[@princeemperor62]

Just like the chakra nodes having there specific placement. RCT’s for lack of better words (idfk activation organ 🤨???) is located in the lower half so gojo was just fawked. tsunades healing factor through her chakra is applicable throughout her entire body, theres the core difference.

[@rageplai9555]

I read a lot of fanfiction and to me Chakra is the better system because it allows every character with it to do more and even though Shippuden power scaling kind of ruined some nuances with its system, there are plenty of ways to still make fights interesting and tactical like with Kakashi vs Zabuza. I think CE is interesting but I think the control of elements, possible kekkai genkai and tota and things like genjutsu and fuinjutsu and stuff that it's more diverse

[@romerojackson4405]

I grew up watching the Naruto series and will always love it's power system. But curse energy reminds me of HXH power system Nen. Mostly how different everyone's nen abilities are. Cause everyone has something different and unique. Plus how strategic you can be with curse energy. Naruto started off with being strategic then later on became power focused. But it's interesting if you ask me.

[@ruikirisame1744]

im going to comment now and have future me comment on how wrong i probably am later but from the outset, Chakra was versitile in the beginning of naruto and it unfortunetely had to deal with the added weight of having more shit bolted onto it as the series continued. jjk on the other hand feels a lot simpler. like chakra anyone can use it but unlike chakra, a vast majority of the techniques are personalized which makes it better since you can add whatever character/ability you want and it won't clog up the fundementals with things that fundamentally change how the system works, like yin and yang release

[@jordanjackson8873]

Mitonic Regeneration has leveps to it and allowed Tsunade to get cut in half and survive.

[@dzigayu4944]

That One Piece sneak diss tho

[@samoodustani5198]

rent free 🧠

[@ivantheenigma577]

You either love or hate the One Piece Power System. It has like 4-5 different methods for characters to gain power which all have little to nothing to do with each other, but most people just focus on the Haki.

[@yrreberry1092]

Honestly it deserved. Haki is inconsistent as fuck. Oda just be doing shit lol

[@Nobarawithwatermelon]

peak shit

[@samoodustani5198]

@@yrreberry1092 its been there since first chapter

[@MAZINO225]

Really great video. People be sleeping on the Chakra even in 2024. 🔥

[@shakielff3716]

'dopest power system in history vs dopest power system of today' ahhh vid

[@Redacted_Ruler]

The strongest power system of today versus the strongest power system in history

[@BrunofanofK]

The problem of naruto power system is that it went out of hails in the last ceason. JJK at least waited the last second to shit in the bed, but Naruto walked itself into a corner.

[@ObsidianMiner32]

Considering binding vows absolutely break the system and the consequences of breaking a binding vow were never shown, I think it’s safe to say cursed energy was a failed nen ripoff

[@bachiwar6555]

This again?? binding vows with oneself you can only lose what you gain.

[@hypotrain]

good video about chakra and nen🔥🔥

[@mechs4life]

Holy hell did that opener show Sukuna losing to Zabuza? Naruto definitely sets the bar higher for power but I feel like maybe Zabuza beating Sukuna is a stretch.

[@chalbramwell5353]

Nah

[@thegrandyata]

Ok what is this W editing?

[@GlorytotheImperium]

Why is the guy in the thumbnail so cheeked up tho

[@catsdogzt3515]

Binding vows and Nen contracts 🤝

[@gorillaflipflop4565]

Domain expansion carries the JJK power system IMO

[@jd7337]

It's literally just banki

[@TheDON914]

Preeety much , kamui still clears tho

[@tftoxic7791]

🔥🔥🔥

[@zonnodon163]

Overall agree with this take. Cursed energy is much safer than chakra.

[@60zn]

I think chakra because complicated doesn’t equal good

[@gregorykenmoe3374]

Nen vs cursed technique is the video to make

[@redsprites5216]

The various, summons, spirits, demons, and fuuinjutsu are the closest thing to cursed energy the show Naruto has had since Day 1!

[@FuriousFireDude]

Chakra clears

[@TheDON914]

EASILY

[@rainsagex]

W POSTTRT

[@DynamiteDominique]

In tabletop rpg terms. Naruto is D&D and JJK is GURPS. Right down to your heavenly pact being how you make abilities in that system by establishing disadvantages to get points, that can be spent on anything. Damage, range, effect. Anyway I prefer pathfinder lol

[@JadedSatoru]

TIGHT TIGHT TIGHT

[@sixfromtokyo]

Bro thinks he's Tuco

[@kirk5649]

​@@sixfromtokyo 😂

[@saidomiv3465]

Chakra and it's not even close. JJK contradicts its own power system every single fight past the 2nd arc of the manga lmao. It is also so ambiguous but not in a cool way, the restrictions are never explained so characters can infinitely break the rules of their power system with next to no explanation JJK is the unfortunate case of live long enough to see yourself become a disgruntled mangaka P.S JJK power system has more in common with my hero academia quirks then people like to admit

[@afro025]

thank you 🙏 someone finally said it

[@xyfghter99]

Having only seen the anime JJK never explained the basics enough to be more than, I am more op than your for reason xy. It made the later half of season 2 just one big nonstop fighting montage without any kind of power scaling rules. That super powerful curse everyone is hyped about? No idea why I should be hyped. It is cool animation, but nothing really has much meaning. No world building, no build up. I got bored by the best animated anime fight of the season... That hasn't happened in all of Bleach or Fairy Tail.

[@saidomiv3465]

@@xyfghter99 Without spoilers Sukuna actually makes 0 sense with an ability later on to the point it took me out of the manga the second the last arc started. Like straight up makes 0 sense to this day

[@Sk8fordays123]

Bro fr had “insert heavily edited image of what i bring up”

[@shawnellesmith]

My problem with CE that it’s a power almost limited to one group of people (Japanese) whereas Chakra is something that anyone can use they learn; like ki in Dragon Ball.

[@zzliment]

cursed energy betta

[@AlanJia8]

I feel like talking about Cursed Techniques in JJK, basically every technique, while only talking a specific branch of jutsu, Kekkai Genkai, isn't the most fair comparison.

[@cryptic_beatz2127]

Cursed energy has probably higher peaks, like some of the cursed techniques are some of my favorite powers in shonen, but Chakra is just the most consistent and well rounded. It’s a toss up I think depends if I’m reading tbv or jjk that day

[@KevinNarwhal002]

Cursed energy is more fun to use

[@Wavedashnoir]

The coolest power system of today, Versus the best power system in history

[@blazemastermind3168]

Are we gonna get a curse energy vs nen or nen vs every other power system since it's clearly the strongest power system

[@Atrociously-bad]

I think curse energy is more simple than chakara, though I’m not saying it’s better

[@YetiCoolBrother]

Both these power systems and the Sons Of Nen so it's all good at the end of the day

[@cesarpedrazamartinezgarcia725]

I like jjk more in theory while i feel more content with Naruto in practice. Jjk could've cooked a lot more many of its ideas but they just didn't, it was played too long with the idea/fact most sorcerers are low level so we straight up didn't see much of domains, RCT, long fights, binding vows, even cursed techniques were a bit wild because some effectively didn't have one, like Hakari had a domain and that's his whole schtick or Takaba had an insane CT that was more wild than any domain.... but i mean generally we just missed out on too much potential content just to be proven a point that now i can say wasn't worth to go on for so long. Naruto also ditched a lot of its potential, strategy was a lot more involved, ninja tools, elemental advantage, common extremely useful jujutsus, a lot of things that were neglected too because they were too good and story breaking or just literally wasted, tho for the purposes of this topic, energy system wise i think chakra held up fine, it didn't had anything unrealized for itself, so I'm content with the result

[@tabalo126]

[@samoodustani5198]

Keep hating One Piece , One Piece living rent free 🧠

[@kingdomofdemyx]

Goat ting

[@Aaxolt]

Cakra is Universal It is Top tier power system

[@erdodimate9017]

You didn't mention shinutsu That clears power wise

[@nobody5066]

Honestly this didn’t feel like a chakra vs Curse energy video. Its more like comparing everything that JJK has with few segments that are similar to chakra. I expected to see a video of all the accessibility you get from having chakra or curse energy. I expected things like ninjutsu, taijutsu, chakra natures and chakra control being a factor in this video.

[@Just_Red_]

Cursed Energy is the far more interesting power system to me, but I feel its not used as well as it could be For example, for a series that creates a way of justifying characters explaining their abilities, it rarely actually ever does this We also know that you can create basic shikigami without even a cursed technique, yet this is also almost never utilized (if it is utilized at all, cant remember off the top). Incantations are a thing, and super cool, and outside of the one used for veils, they're only used by two characters, with one of them having 3 and the other having 1. So many interesting abilities that just go unused Edit: oh right, how could I forget cursed technique reversal, which we see what, twice? Is it just limitless and anti grav?

[@dafade2254]

I think cursed energy is a more interesting and fun power system but kishimoto explores and dose cooler things with chakra so the jjk power system is only better based on potential

[@jacetaylor52]

where would you put hunter hunters power system? i’ve always seen it be considered one of the best power systems

[@Shadowiscutie]

W

[@BLUECHAOSVII]

W video, i'd choose cursed energy.

[@-Datboijj-]

Bad move little ant

[@BLUECHAOSVII]

@@-Datboijj- Who you talking to? Cause i know it ain't to me.

[@-Datboijj-]

@@BLUECHAOSVII cursed energy is just a trash version of nen + chakra but somehow way worse. No one should choose it

[@BLUECHAOSVII]

@@-Datboijj- I don't give a damn about what you think people should do, cursed energy is a fine power system and is it fits in perfectly with the lore. if you're just gonna call it bad without bringing up an argument i suggest you hop off my nuts.

[@BLUECHAOSVII]

@@-Datboijj- I don't care what you think people should choose, cursed energy is a great power system and it fits well within the lore of the world. If you're not going to bring an actual argument and continue to repeat "its trash" then i suggest getting my nuts out of your mouth.

[@cesarjack-vallee4398]

How do you not have any section that specifically includes progression and attack variety. I think naruto would get a clear win there with the thousands of jutsu created over multiple elements and the fact that as you get stronger you can unlock more elements than what you were born with. The innate technique vs kekkei genkai comparison just isn’t fair without adding jutsu into the equation as well if you’re going to put domain expansions in the body enhancement category and also only name a few types of jutsu that enhance your body. All types of jutsu has to be formally included and not vaguely mentioned in a video like this or it’s biased. Attack variety is such an important thing in Naruto that leaving it out entirely is like just giving a point to JJK because their attack variety is very bad in comparison to what 1 ninja can achieve in their lifetime.

[@luciph]

Did he say Zabuza beats Sukuna? No fucking shotttttttt

[@starchildlucid]

w six vid

[@pspsmallz]

Chakra is written and explained better and more in depth, as well just being more powerful overall and having more interesting mechanics and even better hax.

[@ErictheConqueror-gy6es]

I almost had Cursed Energy in my top 3, but the final battle with Sukuna made me not like it as much.

[@rolion4424]

In story and concepts I do like Chakra better, but as a SYSTEM Jjk takes it far above, it is much more settled down, explained and coherent Plus Naruto's system and power levels goes to shit ib the end in the manga

[@Zenoforce]

Yess i was actually debating this with myself yesterday and while i think curse energy is diverse depending on the person. Chakra is generally gonna have more wiggle room for tactics for your D or c rank modern shinobi ultimately i can do more with chakra if im a lower rank ninja vs a socerer with a shitty curse technique imagine my curse technique is turning my hair into a jet or chopper💀💀💀💀

[@slevinchannel7589]

Ive never in my LIFE heard ANYONE say Naruto has the Best Power-System. Whoa Nen is usually disussed, i dont even see Chakra being BOUGHT-UP in such dicussions. Whetever Nen s Nr. 1 or Nr. 2, though the majority leans to literally 'Best ever Magic System' while Chakra just isnt present

[@marikuami6840]

Dark/ negative chakra is already a thing n we saw what it can do in the shippuden movie bonds .....I think ima stick with chakra not to mention there was a couple curse puppet users out there sumwhere in the narutoverse mechamaru not special 😂❤️‍🔥

[@matijajunger4800]

The best power systems in history vs the best power systems of today

[@kingoftheclouds8602]

So we are just not gonna talk about change in chakra nature and form? Or Yin and Yang style ninjutsu and Genjutsu? You didn't talk about like half of the features of Naruto's power system

[@kelmirosue3251]

I like JJK's power system more tbh. Just a lot more interesting stuff going on beyond just amping oneself

[@TheDON914]

Yawn 🥱

[@martimfreecss8311]

13:15 It seems you're implying that elemental kekkei genkai are not exclusive to bloodlines which is wrong. All kekkei genkai are exclusive to bloodlines.

[@personanonmaga5178]

the most power system in history vs the most power system of today

[@ButtersID]

The better power system is the friends made along the way ❤ Also, sukuna fans on sewerside watch

[@Titanic_Tuna]

🤣

[@tobi2960]

Hey wait, I'm not an expert scaler, and usually vs battles between characters from different series dont interest me... But how is Zabuza stronger than Sukuna?

[@afro025]

it's mainly due to the fact he scales to kakashi, who has feats which places him above sukana

[@tobi2960]

@@afro025 I can see that, feel like the version of Kakashi that fought Zabuza is way weaker than later tho

[@Sayojen]

Why compare CTs to Kekkai Genkai? Why not ninjutsu and genjutsu?

[@sixfromtokyo]

Because Innate CT and Bloodline Kekkei Genkai are the most similar of the two power systems.