Chandrachur Ghose: Bose - Untold Story of an Inconvenient Nationalist | Abhijit Chavda Podcast 17

[@kevinshenoy]

Timestamps. Abhijit Chavda Podcast #17 ( Chandrachur Ghose: Bose - Untold Story of an Inconvenient Nationalist) 00:00:01 Intro music. 00:00:25 Opening Note. 00:01:08 What was the need to write a new book? What motivated you to do so? 00:13:52 Why was Subash Chandra Bose an inconvenient nationalist? Who was he inconvenient to, and who is he still inconvenient to? 00:31:28 Jawaharlal Nehru had a constituency, Sardar Patel had a constituency, Monhandas Gandhi had one, but Subash Bose did not have any. It looks like for Bose, the whole of India was his constituency. What's your views on this? 00:41:59 When you wear a military uniform and when you organize the youth in a military style there is a direct challenge to the ruling order which is the British. They must have seen him as the biggest threat. Now, Subash Chandra Bose was unable to organize all of the disparate forces together because he was in jail,etc., but even the Congress party's leaders were in jail very often. So how was the Congress party, so well oiled, so well unified,what was the unifying factor there which Subash Chandra Bose was not able to have? 00:47:26 Gandhi was afforded the time by the British to build his entire team. It appears the British were sympathetic towards Gandhi and other moderates. Since, Bose wanted to overthrow the British(swaraj), maybe that's why he was not allowed the kind of traction, like Gandhi was? 00:54:42 What vision did Bose had for India. How was it different form the vision that Gandhi had for India? 01:07:45 If Subash Bose was a staunch Hindu, why were there differences between him and the Hindu Mahasabha, Veer Savarkar, etc. . What was the cause for that? 01:14:18 Why did Bose ally with Hitler? Did Bose know what was happening with the Jews in Germany? 01:32:31 What was the plan that Bose articulated to the German, Japanese and other leaders and what value did they see in Bose? 01:40:14 As far as I know Bose did not receive a formal military training. How did he become a reasonably successful commander of the Azad Hind Fauj? 01:43:02 If Bose had won the war against the British, and had liberated India, what was his plan for India? Bose believed in democracy, but people allege that he was someone with dictatorial tendencies. What was his vision for India, had he succeeded? 01:49:10 What is the true legacy of Subash Chandra Bose? 01:53:44 Closing note. Jai Hind 🇮🇳 🙏😇

[@AbhijitChavda]

Thank you very much, Kevin!

[@kevinshenoy]

@@AbhijitChavda Welcome Sir. 🙏😇

[@kreativepulp8760]

Really grateful for your efforts here, Sir.

[@Suvajitban123]

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[@shamnovarunaha9237]

#AskAbhijit When Hindu Constitution Placed ?

[@collegestreetkolkata9669]

46:45 Netaji had too many balls. Well Chandrachur Ghose just gave us the quote of the century and truer words have never been spoken.

[@BeE_AriyaN]

Dada, you have a significant voice in the Bengali community. As I can see, Hindutva as a project is nearing its saturation & like every good thing, it'll also start to deteriorate after a time because of complacent leadership that we'll probably have after Modi & Yogi. A competitive ideology such as this only stays in power when it's always challenged by a competent complimentary ideology. You'll see that Prashant Kishore has already started his decade long journey to consolidate the Gandhian splinters under one umbrella, including all the secularists, ambedkarites, socialists & communists. It's a concerning matter as all these have their support bases against BJP & Hindutva as a whole & before long this "Gandhian Socialist mahagathbandhan" will join hands under the table with the then complacent BJP to form a 2 party rule here in Bharat. & Both being socialist at their core, can have catastrophic consequences for us in the long run. That's why I suggest you & many like you to already start consolidating all the nationalists under the umbrella of Netaji's thought process with an economic right wing flavour through content & narratives for probably a 2 decade long project. We cannot let the socialists again holding us back by having monopoly of 2 parties. It's right time to consolidate & there can't be a better banner than Netaji's nationalistic fervour. Only one thing is a hurdle in this project & that is the still classified files of Netaji. I may just have a plan to compel the govt. to take a step in this direction through some useful sensationalization (it may sound hilarious), but I believe in my conviction, & you'll know if I succeed. I hope you'll find this comment useful in the long run Jai Hind, Jai Bharat 🙏🏻

[@asmita3928]

The journey of Netaji very well explained, thank you Mr. Ghose. He was clearly an exceptional leader of the time and was so visibly much more dangerous for the British government, no wonder, it was logical for him to continue to remain anonymous

[@arijitmukherjee7532]

Netaji subhas the pride of Bengal and one of the greatest Indians ever born🇮🇳🙏

[@purelyperfect1]

Pride of india

[@uditchavda08]

Pride of India dude

[@shatwatadinda6111]

He is from Orissa kotok

[@shatwatadinda6111]

@Arpan I know 🤦‍♂️, I said just for information, I know very well about Netaji

[@arijitmukherjee7532]

@@shatwatadinda6111 He is not from there, he was just born in cuttak as his father used to work there and at that time Odisha was no separate state , it was part of Bengal presidency. Netaji's mother is from Baranagar, kol and father is from Kodalia(WB). Their ancestral home is still there. Netaji stayed in Cuttak for some part of his student life, then moved to Kolkata. There are hundreds of letters of Netaji in Bengali. Read Conundrum by Chandrachur Ghose and Anuj Dhar and the latest Biography. Also do read Netaji's own letter to Anath Bandhu Datta from Mandalay Jail and another letter to Sarat Chandra Chatterjee where he refers to Mother Bengal and longs to return to "Sonar Bangla". He was a proud Bengalee and above all a proud Indian. Jai Hind🇮🇳🇮🇳

[@akashbhullar]

Many qualities of Abhijit Sir match with Subhash Chandra, interesting!

[@akashbhullar]

@Arpan Legends were also living person once and you should check the meaning of appalling, I guess you mistyped

[@Rajarshi_X]

Thanks for bringing him in Abhijit.

[@snigdhabanerjee4731]

I'm an old lady still l respect you and Anuj Dhar , because your hard work

[@surarnab]

The book BOSE ... Is a real treasure trove. Best wishes to all.

[@abhishekbose8107]

Chandrachur Da provides a concise portrayal of Subhas Bose as both a man and a leader. His research indicates that Bose was a forward-thinking leader who held steadfast to his objectives and principles, making him stand out. Bose's visionary outlook, intellectual depth, unwavering commitment to India's freedom, eloquence, and effective leadership are qualities worthy of admiration. While replicating Bose may be unattainable, learning from his example is essential, given his global perspective.

[@lorddigital4525]

Good discussion, and a notable effort by Chandrachur Ghosh to bring out the truth about Netaji in his own way, esp when the entire class of professional historians are sleeping. Though it needs a greater intellect than Chandrachur to bring forth in more depth the true contribution of what Netaji did for this great nation. But these efforts are necessary because there has been in recent times a concerted move by vested interests to malign and misrepresent the contributions of Netaji and the Azad Hind Fauj. Earlier these attacks came mostly from leftists but now they are coming from groups pretending to be Hindutvavadis but are in reality Gandhians at heart.

[@rishi.girdhar]

An excellent viewpoint on the ideas and differences of Subhash Chandra Bose compared to the Gandhians and Nehruvians.

[@miteshpatel6074]

Chandrachur sir is an excellency!

[@madhurasapre7863]

Chandrachur ji is amazing. But i m damn Intrigued by the questions you ask . Hats off Abhijit Sir 🙏🏻

[@earthcitizen2515]

Get chandrachur ghosh back for part 2 and ask him about the kind of claims made in his book with anuj dhar. (Spoiler alert: there is a chapter that talks about some paranormal topics)

[@anishchoudhury2301]

Gumnami baba ( netaji) got ptsd that's why

[@earthcitizen2515]

@@anishchoudhury2301 that’s the thing the book expressly states that it is one of the possibilities. But not sure. Delusions are said to be a part of ptsd but remember the govt was in contact with bhagwanji and was taking advice from him on many security matters to a level that bhagwanji was running his own operations within the govt. a man who has severe ptsd will not be given such security details. Unfortunately until the IB files are released claims cannot be proved but if these claims are proved even a portion of it, this will be chaotic not just for india but for the world

[@anishchoudhury2301]

@@earthcitizen2515 yes true and they themselves too never said it is confirmed truth but it is highly possible considering all eyewitness and literary evidences.

[@earthcitizen2515]

@@anishchoudhury2301 ya so it is possible

[@MJ1OT]

One of the best podcasts you have done so far, Abhijit! Chandrachud is an amazingly eloquent researcher. Definitely getting his book! We clearly missed out on a passionate and master planner leader in Subhas Bose! A few questions arise: 1. Did Bose go underground because Japanese announced the end of the war after the two atoms bombs were dropped? 2. Why did he go to Russia, of all places? Was it because Germany and Italy had also lost and Russia was the only friend he had left? 3. Hard to imagine a proud nationalist like Bose doing nothing to further the Indian cause in Russia? What all did he do there? 4. How can you (Abhijit) and us (the listeners) do to further Bose’s causes and make India great again? I hope Chandrachud has some answers in his book. Thanks again for a great podcast!

[@MOHIT836]

Read Conundrum & Chandrachud's book, few of ur questions is answered there

[@debosmandasgupta3940]

thank u sir for the amazing podcast!! dhanyavad🙏😊

[@bhumikachaturvedi4446]

Thank you abhijit sir for your efforts! Finest episode! I really appreciate your efforts!

[@alok2020]

Would love to hear major Gaurav Arya and u together on geopolitics🙏

[@pranavbhaskarjha9892]

Independence that began with Savarkar was accomplished with Bose. Vande Mataram 🫡

[@rudramahanty3862]

People has to choose Bose over the surrendered leaders. Otherwise it's the nation's loss not of the legacy of bose.

[@971381744]

Subhas himself is an ism. He needs to follow no ideology. Other need to follow his ideilogy i.e. Subhashism.

[@MrJojo2335]

Discussion part 2 is required. We need to more about Netaji's actual political ideology.

[@anshitupadhyay5142]

Amazing discussion in live chat and loved the session . While I personally disagree to few things what " the Guest " stated . Thanks

[@lavento3573]

Bro can you share some of your disagreements?

[@vs_916]

Yes please share some of your disagreements

[@anishchoudhury2301]

Please share the disagreements

[@anshitupadhyay5142]

@@lavento3573 Several statements regarding Gandhi and Nehru . Like he said Gandhi was trying to transform humanity and many more claims regarding Nehru .

[@anshitupadhyay5142]

@@anishchoudhury2301 ..

[@GopalYadav-re5rm]

Fascinating to say the least

[@govindaaggarwal103]

Very nice podcast! Need more knowledge from him!

[@chandermotwani3493]

Awesome Content & Iinsights on Netaji. Hopefully the complete scenario cones out. Bose always wanted secular India. And yes partition would have not happend if he would have been there. 👌🏼🤘🏻💯🇮🇳

[@banerjee3]

BRING PROF. KAPIL KUMAR 🔥🙏🌻🍁

[@arnavkhare4801]

Namaste Guruji. Could you please tell us what is the history of the chamar and chawar vansh, it is said that they used to be of kshatriya varna but then sikander lodi came and forced them to become a jati that tans leather. Thank you.

[@Zealpatel2004]

Jai hind

[@riyasarkar2511]

India, and only India, nothing else matters... I wish he could be officially our first PM. The country would have been a whole different place.😢

[@ManasiCSE]

this podcast is blessing to listeners ,thanks chavda sir.....❤❤❤❤❤

[@siddharthadutta5317]

What was the role of Rash Behari Bose in raising the INA

[@binduchawla5156]

Gurudev Tagore was very supportive of Nataji per history textbooks in a history curriculum of graduate studies in India - how come?

[@AdityaYadav_quest]

Sir when is the next Q&A I would love to ask you about our contributions to mathematics. I get frustrated by viewing videos after videos about algebra and algorithms etc credited to the Arabs when I know for a fact that they only copy pasted and not developed this sciences. I would also love to know about books that I can read on these topics. As google is also about spouting this nonsense and crediting all of this to the Arabs.

[@farsa.658]

Watch the more than a dozen talks/presentations/lectures of Dr C.K. Raju on KZbin. He also has a website.

[@AdityaYadav_quest]

@@farsa.658 thank you will check it out.

[@mohanprakash5137]

Read the book "Ancient Hindu Science" by Alok Kumar. Abhijit Chavda sir did a podcast with him.

[@riyasarkar2511]

Some people might have been offended by the remarks on Gandhi and Nehru. But hell yeah, truth always hurt.

[@architjain30]

it still seems unbelievable and implausible that a man who could raise armies on a foreign land would be scared of gandhis to come out in a largely independent and democratic India. There is no good explanation for that

[@MJ1OT]

Independent and democratic? India was still a dominion of the British and was far more British in the Nehruvian era. Bose’s family was being spied on till 1965 at least. If Bose had returned, he would have been tried as a war criminal in Britain. Shri Nehru promised this to the British in several letters he himself wrote. All well documented. And the fact that a patriot of the highest order was treated this way is India’s biggest tragedy. Only after 70 years do we have a government that is not a puppet of western powers. We should be proud of the current dispensation for this reason alone if not for any other reason!

[@architjain30]

@@MJ1OT it is not still a dominion. Yes, we may have just gotten dominion status in 1947, but in the 1960s a resolution was passed and we've been completely independent. Do you know what a dominion means? It means to be in the camp of UK in foreign policy matters unconditionally, like Canada and Australia. Heck, we were largely in the soviet camp throughout the cold war and beyond. Let's not take everything at face value and assess the claims as Mr. Abhijit Chavda suggests - first principles thinking

[@architjain30]

@@MJ1OT right but you have to understand that there were other governments after nehru all the way to 1985. From 65 to 85, we had the jan sangh government and others. Our relations with UK were already pretty sour, we were literally sanctioned, US and UK had their navies up in bay of bengal in 1971 war, why would someone like Bose not come out the entire time. He was not someone weak like you and me that he would wait for a golden time. This was a person who was bold enough to raise an army outside the country. To even shake hands with hitler if it meant help. He would not be afraid of Indira gandhi for fucks sake lol. And this logic of being scared of the west would make sense if India had had steadfast relations with uk which it hasnt

[@MJ1OT]

@@architjain30 no need to call any names. You lost me there. Bye.

[@architjain30]

@@MJ1OT lol what...what name did you get called sir? If you're sensitive to opposing opinion, that's ok. Cheers

[@aniljagruth7664]

Excellent chandrachur for giving us the whole picture of nethaji...tkx chavda for bringing such a scholarly talks..grt

[@gopinathmondal5939]

31:28 very important

[@premajagannath4952]

The heinous back stabbing of Shri Subhash Chandra Bose seems to have ended the becoming of a powerful glorious India !😞

[@rohanmishra3117]

👍

[@Lafayette_09]

plz can anyone tell the name of starting music

[@mohanprakash5137]

This podcast gave more confusion than clarity 😅

[@vs_916]

Why ? 😂

[@EasyBoy17-o8g]

Haven't watched it yet wht happened

[@mohanprakash5137]

@@vs_916 Because of a few things which he told about Nehru and Gandhi.

[@anishchoudhury2301]

@@mohanprakash5137 what?

[@vs_916]

@@mohanprakash5137 Oh.....

[@darkdreamer4343]

👍🏼

[@binduchawla5156]

Nehru a banyan tree under which no thing grows -

[@kevinshenoy]

😇

[@siddharthadutta5317]

Ghose babu is Byomkesh

[@SaradinduGhosh-q4d]

Viewed sometme ago.

[@gopinathmondal5939]

বাংলায় অনেক দিন হয়নি দাদা !একদিন বামলায় হোক দাদা

[@arupadatta4355]

Mr Chandrachur please don't compare the prachanda joker with Netaji Bose. That joker is not comparable with Netaji Bose in any aspect.

[@youtube-flaked8151]

Please get Sarvesh Tiwari on the show too. His exposition on Jihadi elements within INA & how Subhash Chandra Bose knowingly or unknowingly furthered them, is brilliant.

[@anishchoudhury2301]

Sarvesh tiwari just wants to defame netaji

[@youtube-flaked8151]

@@anishchoudhury2301 lmao, as if he has some personal grudges against Subhash Chandra Bose. Don't make a demigod out of SCB. He was not infallible. If you don't even acknowledge the mistakes by SCB, how would you rectify them? Smh

[@anishchoudhury2301]

@@youtube-flaked8151 I do acknowledge his mistakes which is that he called gandhi father of nation which was used as a leverage and this gandhi bhakti has caused a great deal of damage to the country. But in that situation when on one side jinnah is instigating Muslims and on the other British is plundering the nation what should a man do? Boycott Muslims? He had no option than to keep everyone intact in spite of all nuisance created by Muslims. Atleast he never justified the genocide of hindus by Muslims like gandhi did and he himself was a proud hindu and always carried a gita and rudraksh with him wherever he went ( even during war) and he used to meditate at night in ramakrishna mission wearing bhagwa shawl. He had also made comments against secularism in 1927. Try to understand what a single man had to go through by filling yourself in his shoes, it's very Easy to criticise after 75 years.

[@anishchoudhury2301]

Even today's congressi and liberals insult netaji that doesn't mean they have personal grudges.

[@anishchoudhury2301]

@@TheB657 exactly true 👍

[@techintern5566]

Chanachur ghose

[@gurugantaal5782]

Abe Bose Ka Kya Hua Unka Death Kaise Hua Kisne Kiya Yeah Indian Govt Ko Malum Hai .... Usko Hi Puchho ... Khaali Fokat Time waste mat Karo speculation Kar k.... And please don't focus on Only Bose or Gandhi or Patel they are Just Soldiers of India and not The India .

[@gurugantaal5782]

STOP THIS !!! SUBHASH JI IS GONE NOW .... PLEASE STOP IT !!!

[@anishchoudhury2301]

What?

[@vs_916]

@GURU GANTAAL Pls stop it for all the freedom fighters then. They are all gone. Please dont be insensitive.

[@gurugantaal5782]

@@anishchoudhury2301 Subhash ji ki Baato Ko chhodo Woh purani hain ab aage kya karna Hai woh socho.

[@Random_places_india]

Netaji is gone but the respect he deserves is not given to him yet.

[@anishchoudhury2301]

@@gurugantaal5782 aage subhash ji ki adarsho par chalna hai gandhi ki nahi