Changing the Way I Mill Logs With Woodmizer LT15 Sawmill?

[@DanielAtkinsFirewood]

I don't watch many channels that do milling, but i can say i learn something from you every time.. So, thank you for the effort you are putting into the channel. 😉👍

[@Dustin_the_wind]

It ain't just logs, brother. I've said the same thing about pipes; they're always waitin' to catch you slipping. And all it takes is one. Thanks, Wilson.

[@mikehughes2026]

Watched you the other night-hard for you get a word in edgewise. Don’t fix what ain’t broke, 180*- let gravity work for you.🇺🇸

[@jamescotie7535]

After taking the first 2 slabs ( 180 degrees) I always use a framing square to ensure that the 3rd cut will be square with the bed and thus a square cant doing it the 90 degree way you are assuming tha the log rests are always square to the bed rails and over the years this is not always the case I'm a big fan of the 180 degree turn and then squaring the log to the bed, works perfect for me every time. Thanks for your very entertaining an informative videos!

[@michaelflores572]

I do the same. Even when I’m edging on the mill

[@offgridbc6810]

You can always use a wedge under the log when turning it 90 degrees if you have one that is being uncooperative. That will hold it from rolling back while you set up your toe board or whatever else you need to do. Thanks for the video

[@terichampion1165]

Love watching your videos. I am from Central Pt. Oregon (Old Military Rd area) and have lived on the east coast for over 40 years. Watching your videos makes me feel like I am back at home. thank you.

[@bard44]

Jarhead has his way, you have yours. Don't change what you're used to. Even I prefer your way better. You can argue with the other 4 next month and answer more questions. Keep up the good work.

[@mcpiddler1135]

With my Cook's AC36 mill, on which the log is against the squaring arms on the loader side of the mill, you only rotate 90 degrees so the blade enters the log into clean wood as opposed to bark. I hope that makes sense to you, but I doubt I've explained it well. In other words, the log clamps on the opposite side of the bed and rotates clockwise so the blade enters a side that has already been sawed to save blade wear. I do enjoy your videos even though our sawing equipment is very different. You just seem to be so logical in your thoughts and work processes.

[@grahamgeiger3206]

As someone who doesn't own a sawmill yet but watches to learn for when I hopefully get one I was always curious as to why you did 180 vs 90. It now makes perfect sense. Love the video.

[@bobjarrard]

This has become one of my favorite content providers. Just excellent ++++ Bob in Nevada

[@K-Fred]

Thanks for taking the time to show us and explain to us your way of thinking. I really enjoy your videos.

[@HobbyHardwoodAlabama]

Nice video. As a general rule, I agree with you, considering the inaccuracies of the side stops not being exactly at 90, it is more accurate to cut 180 so you have two sets of parallel faces, only off by the error of the sidestops once, where when rotation 90 for each face, any error in the sidestops is compounded each rotation. For modern hydraulic mills, 180 degree is just as easy and fast as 90, and will result in a more accurately cut board.

[@johnjenkins4139]

Very much enjoy your videos . I spent the last 25 years of my career as a sawyer in a hardwood grade mill . I usually turned 90° but , depending on the log . One of the differences , is the number of boards to be edged . If you don't like edging , turn 180° .

[@andysmith8544]

Very well done! While we occasionally roll 90, for the most part we roll 180 as it's just easier on a manual mill. I agree any time saved in rolling 90 is negated by trying to dog down an unbalanced log. We're hobby-ists, not production sawyers, so we're not trying to maximize production, but I would like to maximize quality, so I prefer 180. If we had a hydraulic mill, I'm guessing we'd be rolling 90. Appreciate your thorough evaluation of the pro's and con's!

[@WilsonForestLands]

Well said Andy. I have noticed you guys flip 180 too.

[@sacha11666]

Great questions! I have an old sketchy 28' sawmill. I do both methods depending on the log's shape. But doing 90° like you said can get tricky if you don't secure the log into 90.0° not 89.9º or 90.1°. Specially if the back holders are tired crooked or loose.

[@willbass2869]

Enjoyed the livestream the other day. Top notch

[@Twobrothersoutdoors]

Any mill with a vertical blade, commercial mills as well the cant has to roll 180* That was the standard procedure until horizontal band mills hit the market. I see comments, wedge the log, use a framing square, all that takes valuable time if you are sawing production. If rolling 90 and it's not square you can easily end up with diamond boards. Good video!

[@twagenknecht]

Your workflow/preference is precisely why I said in the chat what I said during the live stream. You also said what I was thinking...that on a mechanical mill, with the operator able to adjust from his seat, that is the big difference. But also, I think that those sawyers have helpers. Your way is what I would do if I was solo logging/milling. And BTW...great Monty Python reference. Trouble now is, every time I see you cutting a log, I'm gonna think: --- "What are you going to do? Sap on me?"

[@theodore9382]

I used to be a 90 degree turn guy but after watching you mill I have switched to 180 degrees and I like it a lot more. My brain can visualize the cuts a lot easier by flipping it all the way over.

[@christiancolozzi3518]

Thank you pop i really enjoy watching you have fun workin !!!

[@MrJoRobb]

Love the content! My brother and I just got the Woodmizer LT15 recently. Thanks for the insight!

[@AlanW]

Thanks for potting these up, I really enjoy learning all this stuff!

[@PineInTheAshMilling]

Great video good info thanks

[@stacyharmon5865]

I use the Nintey degree, but I have a hydraulic lt40 so it is easy. The way you are doing it (180) is definitely easier on a manual mill. I've also used a norwood manual mill and preferred the 180 on it. Keep on keep'n on!

[@MsdMakingSawDust]

Good video there Mr.Sir. I know what you mean on a Manuel mill about the way you turn it 180. When we ran our Manuel mill it seemed easier that way. But with this full hydraulic mill it’s seems easier turn a 90. But I do turn the log 180 when I’m doing slabs. One top cut and flip and then just go straight down. Then I don’t have to unload any slabs. I just pick the whole log up off the mill with the tractor. Appreciate you showing the demo…

[@Glock2201]

I am still new to portable saw mills and I have only tried it the 180 degree way. It was not even for the reason you said it was best for but it makes complete sense that it is easier to lock the log in place when it is laying flat on the mill. One of the reasons I like to do it is because I feel it is easier if you are sawing 2x6 or 2x8 or any other dimension it is easier to get to 6 or 8 and then roll over and start taking your other dimension off.

[@beerbuzz62]

One armed log in a sword fight,love it!!!!

[@randiegadberry5448]

180 has worked for me. I get squarer lumber.

[@patrickcreath217]

Alright. Full disclosure coming from Virginia southern piedmont region. Being older than you, and of course much wiser, I have an LT35 hydraulic which turns those logs hydraulically. Now, if I could ever figure out what to saw with that thing. (besides the wife's cedar board cut list that is)😂

[@joelperigo7213]

Thanks for making this video

[@GMC-qo9xi]

I think with the 90° flip you will have at least one flitch, maybe two, that then have one edge already cut… making it a ‘little’ less painful for the work that comes after the cant is cut.

[@MyClutteredGarage]

180° just makes sense. I’d rather start with two parallel cuts than two cuts at hopefully 90°

[@birddogfarms6981]

Hey Wilson....really enjoyed your live stream. Hope you guys hook up again for another one. Tom

[@WilsonForestLands]

The plan is for the group to do one once a month. Probably the third Saturday.

[@birddogfarms6981]

@@WilsonForestLands Good to hear!

[@Neilson-ve9si]

Great content, thanks for your time

[@glennwilck5459]

Ive always done 90° turns with good results i think. Just need to be careful and make sure the log is square to the stops..once you get two sides flat the reat is easy turning flop it and cut it!

[@tomt8320]

Thanks for the explanation.

[@southernadirondackoutdoors]

180! We've gotten (is that a word?) good results both ways but 180 is more manageable on manual mills. Perhaps the Old JarHead should bring his mill down to you and demonstrate by milling up all your logs using his method. 😁

[@WilsonForestLands]

He said he would come down and mill my logs but he also wants me to come up and cut his tree.

[@dgoodman1484]

Do you try taking the taper out by centering off the pith, by measuring the diameter, or just letting her rip? I assume the tow plate raises the small end but could be wrong as I’m stuck just using an Alaskan occasionally. 👍🏼👍🏼

[@WilsonForestLands]

Yes I have been centering the pith with the toe board.

[@cjm3508]

How do you adjust the tow board properly?

[@joeyrector1015]

Seems like that will work better.

[@geneplummer6645]

i have been using the 90 method since i got my mill , really only notice any issue s when my logs are crooked or over 18" but then again , i only have a 36" cant hook

[@kirkherrick3737]

Hey Wilson greenhorn with the same mill. I really enjoyed the conversation the other night and love your videos. Today you said "adjusting the toe board" so far I just keep a 1" & 2" piece of board around putting on rail when needed prying up with my cant hook to get it in place. You seemed to do it effortlessly with one hand. Was that an editing thing, have you bought or fabricated something or just the old super human strength shining through? Thanks for your help

[@TheOldJarhead]

I think the key here is manual vs. hydraulic mill 😉

[@TheOldJarhead]

I should add that 90 degree method requires thinking ahead a little. You make the first two, and then on the 3rd face, set up your width and the 4th. You knock it down...boom boom boom

[@johnfahey7215]

Those damned wily logs!😂

[@mrMacGoover]

Is all that lighter wood around the heart wood... sap wood?

[@OtherWorldExplorers]

If you slice off your opponents both arms. You're starting to enter in that realm of Monty Python and the holy Grail where he fought the Black Knight.. Have at you!

[@ditto1958]

On Lumber Capital Log Yard they do the 180.

[@HoneyGlzedHam]

The log: "Tis but a scratch!"

[@tims6232]

Hello, I'm a new sub and been watching loads of your videos. Great content! I've been looking for 2 years for property to retire to in southern coastal Oregon forest. Any tips on areas you like?

[@WilsonForestLands]

If you mean right on the coast, I like pretty much everything from Coos Bay to Brookings. If was to look for a place from scratch, I would think about up the Winchuck or the Chetco Rivers. I like the Port Orford area. Also Bandon and Coos Bay. If you like being more remote, there are endless great places in between.

[@pettere8429]

I am wierded out by the bandsaw making combustion motor noises...

[@Dan_Akins]

Good information, if it ain’t broke, don’t try to fix it. How about the deer, have they been back to the milling site?

[@WilsonForestLands]

They have been around grazing just about every day. But they haven’t been hanging around the mill laying in the sawdust like they do in the summer.

[@konradsusiebakalarczyk267]

Do a video on how you use the scale for each cut. Especially when you cut 1” then 2”.

[@pfsmith01]

I think he's already done this...

[@dalittlebearjew8525]

First the rain is coming LMAO lolololol

[@TheTwistedOutdoors]

90° also requires you to turn the log less

[@ElectricDanielBoone]

Watching you try the 90 all by hand like you do, it just seems better/safer to go 180 and get the log stable on the deck. It’d be fun to design and build some hydraulic driven arms to quickly flip a log 90 though. Getting your body between a log and that steel rail looks sketchy.

[@ronsfarm103]

My mill is fully hydraulic. 180 is my opinion. But hey I've only done it twenty years. The other method is not much faster and actually if you do it right it's slower. You are dependent n the fact the lg is at a perfect ninty. If you don't check it you may be milling firewood.

[@ElectricDanielBoone]

@@ronsfarm103 Good to hear you go 180 too. I don’t own a mill, but watch Mr. Wilson because he’s entertaining. 180 just makes more sense to me watching Mr. Wilson and listening to him explain it. Adding hydraulics to flip 180 would be a fun project too.

[@Joeman57]

Whens the next live stream

[@bosse641]

180 would be my choice also. Simple.

[@m8s4lif]

I must say that a 180-degree turn should be a lot more stable. If someone really likes 90-degree turns, well that's OK also. But those of you who think that 360-degree turns are best, you need to stay in Portland and leave everybody else alone.

[@flintknappingtools]

180 is the way to go

[@mergrew0110]

In most things in life, gravity is usually your friend. There are, of course, a few exceptions…..!

[@jeffery19677]

Ripping off Monty Python! I knew you were a nerd at heart. LOL

[@WilsonForestLands]

It had to come out at some point. 😁

[@outtadebox1877]

I don't know anything about it. But your way makes sense. How old are you? Am I going to be able to do this? Lol.

[@Bushman9]

“Come back and fight like a man!” … for the Pythoners

[@davidsturtz1731]

it just depends on the log im milling on how i turn it

[@lpeterman]

"Your arm is off!" "No it isn't!" "What are you going to do, BLEED on me?" (Sorry, you got the ball rolling with your Python-esque metaphor.) Which method do I use? It depends! I use both methods (90° vs. 180°) depending on the log. I monitored the live stream for a while... A lively discussion at times. A likeroo and cheers from your neighbor in Linn County

[@WilsonForestLands]

“‘tis but a scratch” “you’re a looney” Now you’ve got me going again.

[@lpeterman]

Buwhahahahahaha! (Rolling my hands amid evil Python-esque laughter...)@@WilsonForestLands

[@07negative56]

I use shims on the bungs. The doesn’t roll

[@mcsawmill]

I don't understand how you all can be so wrong, 90 or 180, you let the log decide. you have to roll it 90 to get to 180, if it's happy at 90, good that's less rolling, if it's not happy you know it will be happy at 180 so take it there. My point is, and this is especially true with large logs, they are older than you so they know better than you do, let the log decide. 😂

[@RobertSkene-qw3ob]

Lumber is wood ,tree is wood,so tree makes wood which is still wood but now called LUMBER from TREES!! Sorry I digress 🇨🇦😄

[@stevek5988]

Then, why do others call it timber?

[@WilsonForestLands]

The plot gets even thicker than that. Some call it sticks.

[@johnk.3593]

I'm shocked, you believe in gravity 😮 That's a novel concept. Next you'll be talking about the earth being round.

[@WilsonForestLands]

I know I need to be careful talking about things like gravity. People will start thinking this is a conspiracy channel.

[@edwinlikeshistractor8521]

So, really what's a metaphor. Cows methinks.

[@dubya2514]

If I'm cutting dimensional 2" I turn 90 and check it with a square occasionally, if I know that my customer needs perfectly square sides I do 180. You're cutting "rough cut, not finished lumber.

[@johnfolger8871]

180 deg best

[@robbobcat7286]

you comment about other site so we go watch but AI is way ahead of you.But it is nice

[@HubertofLiege]

You know what’s easier? Going to Home Depot and turning those boards onto a cart. No logging or saw milling necessary. It’s like milk from the store, no cows necessary. Jk

[@glennwilck5459]

You know where those boards came from?? A tree being turned and cut

[@realairplane261]

Hubert, I think that is funny!

[@moonmunster]

Or it could just be a flesh wound.