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@shango0663 жыл бұрын
radio disney is still on the air today 1/23/21
@Musicradio77Network3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I did checked this morning that Radio Disney is still on the air as of the recording, but it didn’t signed off at 3AM, The station was supposed to shut down as of last night, but it’s still remains on the air until further notice. No word on what the official announcement for the Radio Disney shut down or not. Maybe on a later date.
@09danstart3 жыл бұрын
That was a good video, but all your videos are good
@shango0663 жыл бұрын
Its all automated and doesnt play commercials, maybe they found a buyer who doesnt want it to go cold before a transition, one can hope. I would gladly listen to a music format with commercials
@aerotro3 жыл бұрын
Remember my previous comment on using Acetone to melt super glue, it occurs to me if the Radio Headset plastic is made of ABS you might be able to soften and repair the hat peak by placing inside airtight container with acetone soaked cotton wool to soften the plastic it only works on ABS which it probably is, I use acetone all the time to soften and shine up my ABS 3D printed parts and to bond parts back together. Their are many video's on you-tube relating to ABS and acetone smoothing no reason why you could not try it to re-supple the plastic with vapour bath. Or just find another hat and transfer the radio over to it just some idea's to think about. Also see kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2WvoICAfMubsMk and see the vapor method kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5vOhWijjMyHgrc
@russellhltn13963 жыл бұрын
@@shango066 Did it change format with the automation? Some time ago, a station that's now called "The Bomb" played "You dropped a bomb on me" in a endless loop as part of it's transition programming.
@alphabeets3 жыл бұрын
1976 Bicentennial celebration year here in the US. I lived through it. There were tons of products exploiting the 200th anniversary. Tee shirts, hats, radios, bumper stickers, you name it.
@1959Berre3 жыл бұрын
The theme of "Hill Street Blues" at the end of the video made my day. For the youngsters: it was a wonderful police series, way back in the seventies.
@shango0663 жыл бұрын
yep i had to get that in there, took about 3 edits to get content id to chill out
@1959Berre3 жыл бұрын
I stand corrected: the original release was january 15, 1981.
@5roundsrapid2633 жыл бұрын
@@1959Berre Yep. I remember my father watching first-run episodes, and I was born in ‘79.
@jeffscomp3 жыл бұрын
@@1959Berre I never used to watch it but remember it being on tv a lot.
@freedomvigilant12343 жыл бұрын
I used to watch Hill Street Blues on a Sunday night with my family.
@kensherwood48663 жыл бұрын
Radio and electronic videos are 10 a penny on KZbin, but yours are always different, " let's try a radio underground" , that's so different. Love it
@DriveInFreak3 жыл бұрын
Yes, "ground waves" kinda means just that. The other half of an AM broadcast tower is under your feet when you're standing on a tower field. There's a massive ground system with usually over 100 radials that are all 1/4 wavelength long. Directional arrays are a different story.
@MrBillmcminn3 жыл бұрын
You know you’re in Flavour County when you can pick up KNX on a Marlboro transistor pocket radio in an abandoned mine shaft in the middle of nowhere
@pcno28323 жыл бұрын
3:50 What a difference between the Channel Master and the GE. The former isn't exactly HiFi, but at least with speech it's easy on the ears while the GE is non-stop screeching. That sound is one thing from the 1960s that I'll never miss.
@mrb.56103 жыл бұрын
The irony of the 1776 radio is greater than you think Shango ... at the time it was made, Hong Kong was *British* !
@pyeltd.54573 жыл бұрын
British empire not GB
@johnnytacokleinschmidt5153 жыл бұрын
That stings.
@charleswillsonpeale57393 жыл бұрын
I don't want to listen to ads about Viagra and/or Cialis while in a" shaft". I "come" prepared with my own "hard hat".
@joseppuig9253 жыл бұрын
A nice experiment to do in that mine is to make a passive FM band translator, where on the outside a receiving antenna picks up all the signals, and sends the through a cable to the transmitting antenna inside the cave. It may need a small in-line rf amplifier, but that would make all the FM band receivable underground.
@rockstar116200211 ай бұрын
Hello sir. I watched this video again, and I noticed that the piece of paper that was with that native copper had the word Keweenaw on it. I'm from Calumet. If you poke around along the shore and roadside parks heading to Copper Harbor, you could find pieces like that just laying around. I wonder if I might know your friend. Also, a rural radio test on top of Brockway Mountain would be great. I hope to do this myself sometime. I appreciate these videos and keep up the great work, sir!
@transcanada90283 жыл бұрын
I would guess it sold in 1976 for the Bicentennial calibrations. I live in Canada and my family went to Disney World in 76. The U.S. was Bicentennial crazy that year. Everything in the tourist shops had that 76 Flag design stamped on it.
@Madness8323 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure that I remember that M.A.T. radio from their catalog. You'd smoke your Cowboy Killers & save your "Marlboro Miles" (the barcode from each pack) to exchange for such goodies like that. I did so, back in the 90s.
@johnnytacokleinschmidt5153 жыл бұрын
Cowboy Killers... 😆 How many times we refer to the somewhat grizzled guy that pissed us off as the Marlboro man. :-)
@bluepen613 жыл бұрын
Beautiful sunset!! Thank you for driving 300 miles to capture this!
@The_Studioworkshop3 жыл бұрын
Well done shango. I use USSR soviet capacitors for my repairs. They are paper in oil type! They don’t ever go bad!
@CLUBNEON-m6i3 жыл бұрын
Paper in oil still fails a lot though.
@The_Studioworkshop3 жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen them fail ever
@TapesNstuffS3 жыл бұрын
Up here in eastern Canada, we never get to see stuff like that desert sunset. Very cool...and the radios too of course
@LakeNipissing3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but we have snow and minus 26.
@vancouverman43133 жыл бұрын
@@LakeNipissing I'm thinking about which golf course to go to today.
@ncautoman573 жыл бұрын
I just found and subbed to your channel 2 days ago. I really enjoy the content. I have been doing transistor radio repairs for over 40 years and love to see others techniques in diagnosing. Take care and hang on to your hat 2021 is going to be a ride.
@davepike61703 жыл бұрын
Beautiful scenery and sunset, near the end! Thanks for the tour! Pretty decent reception on those radios, at that time of the evening, when sun is setting, and "warping the waves!" Thank God, I finally quit smoking for good, 30 years ago, I don't miss it in the least, don't know how I ever smoked. But, Marlboro was my favorite brand, back then, thankfully no more!
@Mr_Meowingtons3 жыл бұрын
Steve1989MREInfo would smoke that cigarette
@godfreypoon51483 жыл бұрын
But probably wouldn't have WW1 flashbacks this time.
@rotwang833 жыл бұрын
He would also like the radio: "Nice hiss!" 😂
@HappyHellscapes3 жыл бұрын
I’d say see about having a replacement visor 3D printed, that one piece is too cool to not restore. Gotta love those wild gimmicky radios.
@volvo093 жыл бұрын
That is SO corny, it has to be saved.
@HappyHellscapes3 жыл бұрын
@@volvo09 totally, honestly I collect oddball radios.
@Ewoorg3 жыл бұрын
Definitely should be restored =)
@alynicholls32303 жыл бұрын
when a stream flows through copper bearing rock, the copper minerals precipitate out forming these chunks of "float copper"(though i haven't head that exact name before), its the same as stalagtites forming out of limestone, those big chunks like you have there make good emergency ground planes when fixing stuff.
@NickNorton3 жыл бұрын
shango066 needs more subscribers. The subtle humour and general knowledge is applicable to:- 1) People that know how things work. 2) People that don't know...... how... things....wor..k.. Geez, we're all doomed!
@goyadressunofficial3 жыл бұрын
This Bicentennial stuff is cool. I toured the American Freedom Train when it rolled through my town.
@allthegearnoidea67523 жыл бұрын
This will make my Saturday. Thank you Mr Shangoo. My friends are always trying to get me going caving with them at night but I don’t like being underground when it’s dark outside.
@russellhltn13963 жыл бұрын
11:56 "It doesn't say how many transistors it has", right while I'm reading "8 transistor super het." Ooops. Can't all be perfect. :)
@superconductorchip90723 жыл бұрын
Those Radios are SMOKING !!! Great video brings back good memories..
@gavincurtis3 жыл бұрын
If my grandpa owned that, it would have the 100% authentic smell too.
@j0hnf_uk3 жыл бұрын
_'See what toys you get if you take 10 or 15 years off your life!'_ 🤣🤣
@fanofoldfans92383 жыл бұрын
Looks like Victorville in the waxing crescent moon background. Those are cool schlock kitsch radios from yesteryear.
@alexandernikolov79773 жыл бұрын
Hey man, you're a real maniac, great episode.
@davids84493 жыл бұрын
Always listening to Shango066, in every repair he has undertaken, he makes interesting and leaves you with tips if you are repairing a Wireless, or Transistor set yourself.( England)
@stevehead3653 жыл бұрын
Plus a filter tip
@michaelrobertson5753 жыл бұрын
An interesting Video Shango! Your Tunnel experiment proved what folk already believed about Radio waves with V.H.F proving useless and M.W. working when enough power was thrown at it with a sensitive enough Receiver. I think serious Cave explorers use V.L.F. to make best use of the available technology and energy. I look forward to the Marlboro Pocket Radio diagnosis.
@AMStationEngineer3 жыл бұрын
KNX has a wicked ground wave!
@raymondtroyanovich71083 жыл бұрын
The 76 radio is probably a bicentennial throwback. Everything in 1976 was about 76.
@BenHelweg3 жыл бұрын
We've finally got the mine explorers tie-in.
@pizzaface40793 жыл бұрын
I like your new content in a cave. The Marlboro radio looks interesting. You inspired me to break out my Sony watchman fd-510 & scan the fm airwaves. The moon & sunset was amazing.
@garp323 жыл бұрын
That was an amazing sunset. Looks like I need to make a trip out west. Great video as always. Thanks for sharing the view!
@iRepairElectronics3 жыл бұрын
My god Shangoo...you got a huge set of Neon Balls for going down a "abandoned" mine, 150Ft down, At Night. i sure hope you bring someone along with you on these escursions. Pretty sure that 5G,4G, LTE, CB Radio would all be useless down there.
@freedomvigilant12343 жыл бұрын
+Shango066 @19:11 Mark: "Are we in 1776 2.0? Is that what this is all about? We should be..." You summed it up well there, Shango.
@HD71003 жыл бұрын
Wow! It looked to me like you have done this adventure alone. If so you are definitely a brave soul.
@shango0663 жыл бұрын
Why? Me not afraid pf dark
@qwertykeyboard59013 жыл бұрын
@@shango066 Abandoned mines _can_ be unstable
@bro.weaver12823 жыл бұрын
@@qwertykeyboard5901 ^Pfffft! does it matter if it's day or night in a mine?
@Mr_Meowingtons3 жыл бұрын
@@bro.weaver1282 ROFL right!!
@HD71003 жыл бұрын
@@shango066 It wasn't the dark but you are an adventurous man to be sure. I used to do things like that when I was younger. I absolutely love your resurrection videos!
@JasonHalversonjaydog3 жыл бұрын
kinda cool, for the heck of it i tried tuning it in and i could recieve it here in northern Minnnesota! it was weak but but i could liisten to it. goes to show how far AM signals can travel
@BRMBug3 жыл бұрын
KNX? Wow. Must be b/c you’re further North than me & are getting greater bounce. I’ve never received any AM stations further west than NM here in TX. I get stuff from the north/ NE all the time though.
@joshm2643 жыл бұрын
Gamers choice but with a tad of cancer, I love it
@markmarkofkane81672 жыл бұрын
I've heard of underground radio, but.... Fascinating! Good thing you're not claustrophobic.
@7c3c72602f7054696b3 жыл бұрын
Shango, you are a riot. Cool video, lots of neat collector's pieces in there.
@charlesskelly16993 жыл бұрын
Shango, Thoroughly enjoyed this one! Commentary...Priceless! @43:57 Battery schematic shows different than the way your leads are connected. Also the ammeter goes in the reverse direction right after the on click of the volume wheel. That might explain the silence. Great stuff keep them coming.
@shango0663 жыл бұрын
Ignore colors
@LakeNipissing3 жыл бұрын
11:58 . . . Shango: "It doesn't say how many transistors it has." Label in clear view: "8 Transistors" LOL !!
@Stuartrusty3 жыл бұрын
That torch/flashlight radio I remember being sold here in the UK as a kind of fake Duracell item. Copied the same black/yellow colour combo as the Duracell torch range of the time, late 80s I think.
@frankowalker46623 жыл бұрын
There must be a way to fix that Solar hat radio. It's so cool.
@Wageslave6453 жыл бұрын
The only thing that black Marlboro radio was missing is the 12 inch fluorescent light that all of those multipurpose garbage lights used to have.
@BRMBug3 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to see what happens when you take one of those radios into one of the big/long mines. I also often think of the mine explore vid you did years ago where someone had old car radios hooked up to a tap off of the light power supply outside of the mines. I forget what the exact mine setup was, but I wish you had been able to get those going.
@scottbrady74993 жыл бұрын
i moved to the bay area in the late seventies, and my dad gave me a pre- "adventure team" marlboro pack set like the smoker's choice that he acquired in nyc in the late sixties. the box had a partition for where the nine volt battery and earphone were. the box also was a giant pack of marlboro red. a promotional item in a promotional container.
@arthureverett82203 жыл бұрын
I give you credit. I would be afraid to go into an abandoned mine for fear the ceiling may collapse. They must be strong radios. My factory ford radio won’t get any reception in tunnels
@shango0663 жыл бұрын
Ill post a video here of a real adventure some day. This was nothing
@bigsky19703 жыл бұрын
I can imagine back in the day, going to a Dodgers game and wearing that Boomer hat behind home plate, thinking you were hot stuff. Looking forward to the restore of the "Marble Oh" radio!
@nickfrench73723 жыл бұрын
Those vintage am/fm transistor radio work better receiving stations,,,,than any modern am/fm radios we get these days altogether.
@kevkabluebird10323 жыл бұрын
Funny how easily FM can be blocked compared to AM. Thanks for sharing!
@kiteman3573 жыл бұрын
Theme from Hill Street Blues. Haven't heard that for many moons. Great video, all your videos are great. Best content on KZbin I think.
@_wave64_3 жыл бұрын
Great intro. The wavelength of 1MHz (AM midband) is 100x longer than 100MHz (FM midband). Therefore for a given sensitivity, generally speaking, you can expect AM to penetrate 100x deeper into the ground than FM. Of course the FM receiver section of the radio is much more sensitive than the AM, because of the extra frontend and usually one more IF amplifier section, but the advantages quickly fade under ground. Submarine communications use almost ultrasound (~35kHz) in order to make the signal penetrate into the water as deep as possible, for a given transmission power.
@tonymanzo37663 жыл бұрын
I bought one of those testers for 20$ . I’ve fixed a couple of things with it that I would otherwise throw out. The downside,and you mentioned it I have to take the component out of the circuit to test.
@addagwenlyn96623 жыл бұрын
I was born one morning when the sun didn't shine, I picked up my shovel and, I walked to the mine. I loaded 16 tons of no. 9 coal and, the straw boss said, "well, bless my soul".
@Rev22-213 жыл бұрын
Remember that.
@arise29453 жыл бұрын
Tennessee Whiskey Ford.
@addagwenlyn96623 жыл бұрын
@@arise2945Yes, Ernie Ford, 1956. Originally written and performed by, Merle Travis, 1947. Covered by many greats such as, Jimmy Dean, Johnny Cash, Billy Gibbons of ZZ Top and the above mentioned.
@5roundsrapid2633 жыл бұрын
It was one of the few American songs allowed in the USSR. They decided it would be good propaganda.
@addagwenlyn96623 жыл бұрын
@@5roundsrapid263 I can understand that propaganda. A song to unite the working class.
@robot7973 жыл бұрын
that solar cap radio could be repaired make a simple mold fill with epoxy would be an awsome project
@volvo093 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, i totally remember wanting that "adventure radio" in the marlboro rewards magazine as a kid... early 90's? ... I wanted one because i liked radios and lights, haha.
@shango0663 жыл бұрын
Its time to learn how to sm0ke
@shango0663 жыл бұрын
They are like $15 on ebay. Now your dream can come true
@volvo093 жыл бұрын
It's not as fun buying one... You really got to earn it. I lost my chance to sm0ke as a kid. I might have gotten that inflatable dingy i wanted too :(
@5roundsrapid2633 жыл бұрын
@@volvo09 Have you tried the gum? All of the buzz, none of the cancer. 😆
@tedcowart36473 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! Loved the radio test in the cave and the great sunset! I've got that same Channel Master and its a great performer. Or was, haven't used it in a long time. The tonal qualities of that GE remind me of my exgirlfriend. Makes you want to stick ice picks in your ears. Lol. Thanks for making my day
@billmyke7463 жыл бұрын
Lmao! Nice comment sir.
@edwardallan1973 жыл бұрын
Shango.... you will stop at nothing to keep things interestng. Very nice!
@bjornholmqvist32303 жыл бұрын
I had one of those solar cap radios in the 80s, didn't look exactly like your tho (mine was blue) but similar. It was FM, had a tiny rod antenna (maybe 10cm long) and had battery you charged with solar, but I think my battery was bad (I was a kid and didn't understand much electronics at the time), as I got maybe 10min out of it after a day charging in the sun.... Shango, you have been cranking up subscribers lately! Have you not? I came here when you had a couple of thousand, now almost 50K! Congrats man! Must be the dry tech humour :P
@filter4now3 жыл бұрын
Sorry for not saving all my comments till the end, but I'll bet you it's the first IF transformer (or shorted cap). I had to build one of these radios in class and the red (first) IF transformer was open... rather than failing the lab, I pulled the can apart and soldered the open winding together (that was fun)
@cjmarsh5043 жыл бұрын
Back when smoking, and getting lung cancer lead to getting items in the catalog.
@kinasc15753 жыл бұрын
I have a Sanyo RP 8800 4 band that was my late mothers, dates back to the early 80s if not earlier, and that still picks up everything there is still going on all bands! Shango with his best humour on this one I think, great stuff!
@leroyjenkins093 жыл бұрын
That 76 radio and solar visor radio were trinkets given out to employees of Unocal oil company. My dad gave me that exact solar powered am radio visor when I was a kid, it never worked.
@JWimpy3 жыл бұрын
That little Marlboro stick radio has a torch function. Cool, you can cut steel pipe nd weld with it
@5roundsrapid2633 жыл бұрын
It’s British English for “flashlight”. Makes sense that the Chinese would use that dialect.
@JWimpy3 жыл бұрын
@@5roundsrapid263 I know. I was being sarcastic as a joke. You know now us Yanks are always poking fun at the Brits.
@whiskerlesswalrus3 жыл бұрын
an actual scissoring video-awesome haul!!
@Zooumberg3 жыл бұрын
At least it's not a Fred Flintstone advert to persuade kids to start smoking...
@bfeme3 жыл бұрын
I have a channel master just like that one, I still play it
@RuneTheFirst3 жыл бұрын
I had a couple. They were made by Sanyo and used those awful plastic electrolytics. I replaced them and performance was incredible after that. Just picked up a couple (red and black versions) to rebuild.
@whiskerlesswalrus3 жыл бұрын
That M.A.T radio would have been even better with a lighter built in-and I like how it has the word torch on it-would be fun if it EOL'ed itself when you switched on the "torch"-it torches itself
@Cyb3rst0rmIndustries3 жыл бұрын
Not really your usual thing, but do you want a Tasco NV100 night vision scope? I was given a box of stuff and this thing was in it in pieces, principle problem is all the solder joints are garbage. All the parts seem to be there.... yours for the price of shipping.
@SquantoTerror3 жыл бұрын
44:22 Diganose my Marbalow...Mauhrbelau...Marlboro...
@markrhine58093 жыл бұрын
Shangoo66, Most amazing video you have ever done, I just can not beliveve that Channel Master is playning that well. Keep the lights shinning...
@shango0663 жыл бұрын
How so? Explain..
@aaronz96873 жыл бұрын
Can easily pick up 1070, night time dx over here in arizona.1700 out of Mexico is interesting, commercial free music . 80's all kinds of oldies.
@shankslitter13443 жыл бұрын
Most entertaining video Ive seen this year!
@estebanvillalobos23033 жыл бұрын
i picked up a native american AM station in new mexico once on a TRF set in california, over 500 miles away
@alanfryer56703 жыл бұрын
From the SF bay area we can pick it up occasionally as well.
@jayhiz35143 жыл бұрын
I love ur videos, your my spirit animal.
@timblake58443 жыл бұрын
Where did you get your ESR meter? Did you build it yourself? And if so, do you have a link? Thanks for the great videos!
@jamesatkinson64802 жыл бұрын
Some years ago, 'Electronics Australia' released a project of an ESR, low ohms meter, using a 'Zilog' chip. I bought the kit, and built it. It saved a lot of time, as I used it extensively for 'in circuit' (power off) testing of electrolytic capacitors which compared poorly with a new one out of circuit...
@bojackh58123 жыл бұрын
Nice Video, it's somehow different than usual but i like it. What a beautiful sunset in the Desert.. Thanks lot for sharing this
@gregorycaspers11013 жыл бұрын
I'm in the twilight zone right now, didn't you already do the "76" transistor radio video before this and yet you're unpacking it now? :)
@5roundsrapid2633 жыл бұрын
That video was made later, but posted first.
@j0hnf_uk3 жыл бұрын
Continuity error.
@electrofan71803 жыл бұрын
I wonder what is more scary to meet: a man who listening radio in an abandoned mine at night or a man in the middle of the desert who listening to few radios lying around...☻
@craigtegeler46773 жыл бұрын
That Marboro pocket radio looks like it has RCA innards! I have several of the Channel Master model 6015's and I also own the GE pocket radio that you featured. The GE that i have has sub-par performance and i wished that I hadn't bought it off of eBay.
@bro.weaver12823 жыл бұрын
Shango: "I'm curving to the LEFT, now a HARD LEFT here....." He is gone folks!
@shango0663 жыл бұрын
Its all in the subtleties...
@paulsto65163 жыл бұрын
It was 'all right' when he came back out.
@pyeltd.54573 жыл бұрын
HARD BREXIT
@godfreypoon51483 жыл бұрын
I was surprised when he turned hard left.
@adrianfrigo83733 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah,this video was a gooood one for sure!
@fredfabris71873 жыл бұрын
I suspect all the original members of the adventure team are dead.
@craignehring3 жыл бұрын
Nice departure in this video. Long time channel subscribers will love this and those that are not should too. Thanks Master shango066
@iulianispas86343 жыл бұрын
I use to own the malboro poket radio was offer about 18 years ago on malboro promotion (that was in Romania ) good content video thanks
@ryan613843 жыл бұрын
Shango is Cialis right for you?
@nonamehere41953 жыл бұрын
Nice looking sunset/moonset
@qwertykeyboard59015 ай бұрын
Yep. Picked one of those Sanyos up. Bad audio output transitors. The construction put me in a bad mood. Never put it back together.
@arthureverett82203 жыл бұрын
You’ll have to take a GE Super Radio into that tunnel and check am reception
@stephenwilliams52013 жыл бұрын
What is a s66e ?. Put one together. Had to hack the case. To fit the reciver. But was amazed. That it took off. On the first try. Weird though... first time I could hear the signal Floor. And distant stations. On a floor sweepings radio. Impressed. I have several Chinese kit radios. This one takes the cake. Tks de kv4li 73.
@helioshaul39243 жыл бұрын
What's your procedures regarding Snakes on your wilderness and Mine visits at night.
@johnnytacokleinschmidt5153 жыл бұрын
I would have been nervous going in th there. Animals? Snakes I hadn't considered. Bad people? Air quality? Confined spaces safety? I still would have gone. But I'd have taken a piss first...
@mackfisher44873 жыл бұрын
Interesting, your demonstration brings a whole new connotation to ground wave, of course we know that VLF frequencies conducts penetrate the ground and that's why navies use in to communicate to submarines underwater, but a.m. in a mine shaft, bet there's no RFI.
@juslitor3 жыл бұрын
doesnt look like he is even close to a half wavelength inside the mountain. As far as the RF is concerned the rock aint there yet
@milesmoore54223 жыл бұрын
Are you in the Los Angeles area ? And are there any Radio repair forums you can recommend ?
@n2n8sda3 жыл бұрын
I changed my messenger tone now so when I receive messages I get a "smokers choice" sound :D
@opus19523 жыл бұрын
That was great Shango, really great. Your fucking nuts going underground in the night! I'd go as high as you like just don't ask me to go underground, I be underground long enough when they put the lid over my face!!! I can see the beauty of camping out in the desert that's really cool. 😎👍