Remember that time an unclean spirit, an abomination, told that one guy, a necromancer, that the Church of Jesus Christ -- all of it -- was itself an Abomination? So the necromancer told us that all their Creeds were abominations? And then some people decided to believe and follow the necromancer over the Lamb of God?
@peterkennedy80114 ай бұрын
What are you talking about
@ts-9004 ай бұрын
@@peterkennedy8011 First part. Who is Moroni? We have zero credentials on him. We have no idea if he was good, evil, or if he even existed. Men of God, holy, righteous people are concerned about this. The pagan are not. We have a responsibility before God to find out. JS's own testimony on the matter is not consistent. That makes him, at best, an unreliable witness. Was it an angel? A dead guy's spirit? Was it Nephi, like Mary Whitmer and Lucy Mack Smith claimed? Was it MoronI? Do we believe the credible witness who interviewed Joseph's Father who said, "He then told his father that, in his dream, a very large and tall man appeared to him, dressed in an ancient suit of clothes, and the clothes were bloody. And the man said to him that there was a valuable treasure, buried many years since, and not far from that place; and that he had now arrived for it to be brought to light, for the benefit of the world at large; and, if he would strictly follow his directions, he would direct him to the place where it was deposited, in such a manner that he could obtain it."
@ts-9004 ай бұрын
@@peterkennedy8011 First part. Who is Moroni? We have zero credentials on him. We have no idea if he was good, evil, or if he even existed. Men of God, holy, righteous people are concerned about this. We have a responsibility before God to find out. Was it an angel? A dead guy's spirit? Was it Nephi, like Mary Whitmer and Lucy Mack Smith claimed? Was it MoronI? Do we believe the credible witness who interviewed Joseph's Father who said, "He then told his father that, in his dream, a very large and tall man appeared to him, dressed in an ancient suit of clothes, and the clothes were bloody. And the man said to him that there was a valuable treasure, buried many years since, and not far from that place; and that he had now arrived for it to be brought to light, for the benefit of the world at large; and, if he would strictly follow his directions, he would direct him to the place where it was deposited, in such a manner that he could obtain it." Which one is true?
@ts-9004 ай бұрын
@@peterkennedy8011 Second, JS was a necromancer, that is a fact. He tried to join the Methodist church. But he said later that God had told him not to join any? The Methodists didn't want him because he was currently a practicing necromancer. JS promised his wife's father that he would give up the black magic stuff, but he didn't. Why would God have anything to do with a necromancer, the practice of which God said was an abomination?
@ts-9004 ай бұрын
Not sure if I can help. All I know are the higher ups, and they wouldn't appreciate your understanding of Jesus or the LDS at all. There are around 24 divisions of the LDS here, and I don't think your belief system matches any of theirs. We have the Reorganized, Restored, Remnant, Cutlerites, Strangites, Toneyites, Hedrickites, Elijah Message (Fettingites?), Community of Christ and so on. Which one do you think would like your division of the LDS?
@reflectivesaint49044 ай бұрын
I only hold to the true doctrine revealed by Christ through Joseph Smith, and continued by Brigham Young and his successors. Russell M. Nelson is the president and Prophet right now.
@ts-9004 ай бұрын
@@reflectivesaint4904 Hm, my comment was deleted, I only say that in case it shows up later. I was trying to point out that they (the higher ups of the LDS) would claim the same thing, but that's where I get my "understanding" of the LDS that you are diametrically opposed to. So maybe I should ask one of the higher ups from one of the other divisions, perhaps one of them that reject the D&C, to watch your channel?