Record collectors are frustrated - here's why

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Channel 33 RPM

Channel 33 RPM

Күн бұрын

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@freeman10000
@freeman10000 2 күн бұрын
The price of records is absurd. I have pretty much stopped buying vinyl now and just focus on Compact Discs.
@andrewdonohue1853
@andrewdonohue1853 2 күн бұрын
i found a brand new dark side of moon for $20 on ebay and fleetwood mac rumors for $20. it seems some things are ridiculous but others arent too bad. i bought 3 vintage moody blues albums for $15 and they all play great. some things are absurd and i try to avoid those things
@AlexandruBurda
@AlexandruBurda 2 күн бұрын
Me too but there is a problem. Some albums are better mastered on their vinyl version than on the CD one. So in some cases, for some albums (when the CD version is really badly mastered) I have to buy the vinyl version, despite the higher price. So I also have to do some research into this.
@juliosanchez8263
@juliosanchez8263 2 күн бұрын
Vinyl is cheaper now than when I was a kid. I bought the Beatles White Album in 1968 for $11.98. That would be a $108 in today's money. To me this is a golden age of vinyl with so many high quality audiophile reissues. Loving vinyl collecting right now.
@neuroisis85
@neuroisis85 Күн бұрын
@@AlexandruBurda Or you could find a FLAC rip of the first UK vinyl pressing on the internet...
@SDsailor7
@SDsailor7 Күн бұрын
I bought a record for this recent RSD black Friday and I thought it was a fair price $50 it was a double album ruby red and cobalt blue " Error (404) by the Warning. I was a happy camper
@RR4379
@RR4379 2 күн бұрын
The price of vinyl is crazy.
@juliosanchez8263
@juliosanchez8263 2 күн бұрын
Vinyl is cheaper now than when I was a kid. I bought the Beatles White Album in 1968 for $11.98. That would be a $108 in today's money. To me this is a golden age of vinyl with so many high quality audiophile reissues. Loving vinyl collecting right now.
@Gary-qq7og
@Gary-qq7og 2 күн бұрын
People asking high prices for vinyl, a lot of the time they are selling junk 😢
@MarkHiFi_Guy
@MarkHiFi_Guy 2 күн бұрын
@@Gary-qq7og maybe it's time to go back to 8 tracks,,,lol
@Gary-qq7og
@Gary-qq7og 2 күн бұрын
"Even 8 track tapes are getting exspensive"
@MarkHiFi_Guy
@MarkHiFi_Guy 2 күн бұрын
@@Gary-qq7og damm I can't win!! Lol
@christopherperez9003
@christopherperez9003 2 күн бұрын
With over 4,000+ Albums, 12" Singles, 45's since the mid-1970's to current, I'm pretty much set with my music. I'll still continue buying though in 2025 either different pressings of records I already have or a few stragglers I still want. I work hard, so I buy constantly as it is therapy for the soul.
@DarkJeffau
@DarkJeffau Күн бұрын
Here in Australia releases are between $35 to $80... CDs are around the $35 mark.. vinyl up to $80. Sometimes buying the file is somewhat cheaper but I love in on media. Discogs sucks big time with ridiculous postage.. sometimes more in cost than the vinyl.
@mannsteve4
@mannsteve4 2 күн бұрын
I have decided on buying more audiophile records. Instead of 3 or 4 regular records buying 1 from accoustic sounds. Love hearing a great sounding record on my system
@frankgarcia9834
@frankgarcia9834 2 күн бұрын
Me to as well🎉
@thevinyljukebox
@thevinyljukebox 2 күн бұрын
Great video Frank! I’ve been buying more new albums on cd due to the rising cost of new vinyl. Usually I’ll only buy the vinyl if it’s one of my favorite bands or if I can get a great deal. This allows me to buy 2 to 3x the new music that I would if I stuck only to vinyl.
@Channel33RPM
@Channel33RPM 2 күн бұрын
Thanks! CDs are definitely a good value nowadays.
@toddbailey6641
@toddbailey6641 Күн бұрын
@@Channel33RPM Shipping charges can often be the same for cds or vinyl.
@TKRVideoCentral
@TKRVideoCentral 3 күн бұрын
Good stuff Frank. My wife and I know we're both overspenders when we can be - her passion is books, mine is music - but we keep each other informed of what we're spending, and since she retired in March, we're being a little more frugal with our purchases all the way around, so that's a good thing. Hope you and the fam have a wonderful holiday!
@Channel33RPM
@Channel33RPM 3 күн бұрын
Thank you - wishing you guys all the best!
@TomTurcic-g8j
@TomTurcic-g8j 2 күн бұрын
I'm just buying second hand records like l have been for 35 years. New lps are ridiculously priced and 50% of them have pops, clicks, warps and skips and no where near the quality of the 70's / 80's. Quality control these days is non existent. I don't mind paying for new lps but when they are so poorly made it's just a waste of money then.
@bobfrapples1208
@bobfrapples1208 2 күн бұрын
Correct. I just am sick of spending 40 bucks on a new vinyl to find that it skips non-stop. Not worth it anymore.
@FrankieLovesElvis
@FrankieLovesElvis Күн бұрын
I’ve come to the point that I just stopped buying vinyl. If it’s something I really want from a specific artist, then I’ll get it, but on the whole, not only is the hobby getting stupidly expensive, but I have a family and in a new relationship, and work, who has the time to sit down and enjoy my records anyway? Nice video Frank from Frank. 😊
@myles7522
@myles7522 Күн бұрын
Once prices in the U.K. rose above £30 I’ve stopped a lot of my purchases….
@JoeMay-wc6nv
@JoeMay-wc6nv Күн бұрын
I have not bought a Record since I have been getting CDs, shortly after they stated come out. But I love to watch you channel as in the end it's all about the Music. I have added about 20 or so new 2024 CDs & I lost count on how many new to old CDs I have got this year. Right now, I'm on an old school Power Pop & Glam Rock kick.
@billthegoatboy1330
@billthegoatboy1330 Күн бұрын
Prices are out of control now in the UK. I am definitely buying much less vinyl because of it.
@jimmccloskey4254
@jimmccloskey4254 Күн бұрын
I finally finished my Discogs cataloging = 5500 titles - 50/50 LPs and CDs. I purchase used throughout the year and purchased each quarter end when The Sound of Vinyl, uDiscoverMusic, Blue Note, etc have 20 to 40% discount sales.
@juangone75
@juangone75 Күн бұрын
I usually take a couple months off buying after Black friday. So until the end of January I mostly stay out of my local shops. Christmas shopping and recovery from that takes up my fun money. It gives my locals some time to get new used inventory out and me time to clean/catalog and listen to what I’ve bought over the last six months.
@AG-bp3ll
@AG-bp3ll 2 күн бұрын
My record buying has fallen to almost zero. They are out of their minds charging premiums for records. I would rather spend the money on a format like blu-ray audio that at least has improved sound potential and is usually cheaper than vinyl.
@toddbailey6641
@toddbailey6641 Күн бұрын
There is a CD/Vinyl hybrid that been invented, not sure how it will go.
@bmurphy7468
@bmurphy7468 2 күн бұрын
I’ve greatly reduced my purchase of new vinyl. Prices are THE reason.
@jp93309
@jp93309 Күн бұрын
Could be worse. Have you see concert ticket prices lately?
@Channel33RPM
@Channel33RPM Күн бұрын
Yeah... crazy... I have been avoiding most as a result.
@joemartucci4786
@joemartucci4786 Күн бұрын
Yeah 100.00 a ticket to see a b or c level band.....wtf????
@retrorhon63
@retrorhon63 9 сағат бұрын
Refuse to pay these ridiculous prices!! I'd rather buy an album/cd/dvd from the artist and revisit when I want. I'm 61 and have been to quite a few concerts in my time and just can't justify it anymore. It's too pricey, and quite frankly, most of the artists I enjoy no longer make new music or are not around anymore 😢
@45oldies10
@45oldies10 2 күн бұрын
I still have a lot of records but turning my back on them more and more and buying cd's just for the cost and convience. Now I'm getting older (51) I know my hearing will decrate and vinyl does not sound that awsome anymore then when I was in my 20's and 30's. The other benefit is that cd's are more close to the original sounding master tape (when done by a proper producer), I'm not getting into the "let's make all mono records stereo issue" on CD's, that's another level of discussion. For me, CD's is pretty much what I like to buy now, and with the excellent equipment these days (Dac's and new cd players) you can squeeze so much more out of an CD then ever before. Have a great Xmas and happy new year Frank, for you, your family and friends. Greetings for The Netherlands.
@lordeuronymous
@lordeuronymous 2 күн бұрын
cds are starting to go up in price as well. Look at the retro video game market, that’s been even more out of control post covid. I think if the global economy gets better, the prices should level back out for most things. I’m optimistic for improvements in 2025. Lower gas and oil prices should have drastic impact on bringing costs down.
@Rockstaralan
@Rockstaralan Күн бұрын
Good point. And if prices for new records STILL keep rising next year, after the fact that production costs may decrease because of cheaper gas and oil, then we'll know what it can REALLY be attributed to: GREED, plain and simple.
@AnalogueAndroid
@AnalogueAndroid Күн бұрын
My personal choice are black records only which means ive not bought as many LPs this last year due to the releases i wanted were pressed only on yellow or splatter coloured vinyl so i just forgot about them.theres no shortage of LPs in our house to listen to but don't want to neglect the artists and bands that i love.more black pressings please.
@djgcue
@djgcue 2 күн бұрын
I’ve been dj’ing since the 80s, CDs offer the best of both worlds. I can quickly rip a CD and play the mp3 on a control vinyl using Serato DJ. I still collect certain artists and albums on vinyl, but it’s been mostly digital for me during the past few years.
@phatsmitty
@phatsmitty 3 сағат бұрын
Although I am frustrated with the rising cost of new and used vinyl, I'm quite pleased with the small record collection I have. I sometimes combat the rising cost by purchasing cassettes and cd's... lots of treasures out there!!!! Thanks for another great video, Frank
@toddfield4744
@toddfield4744 22 сағат бұрын
New to the channel, really enjoying the content. I own around 570 LP's, 850 or so CDs, regularly transact on Discogs.
@grahambiggs9822
@grahambiggs9822 2 күн бұрын
What a great answer that was Frank, buy your partner the album as a gift then claim in for yourself ha ha. Wouldnt work in my household as my wife hates the music I listen too. Have a great Christmas with your family and thanks as always for the shows Frank. Keep on spinnin !!
@Channel33RPM
@Channel33RPM 2 күн бұрын
Thanks Graham. All the best to you and yours.
@robmills537
@robmills537 2 күн бұрын
Hi Graham yes I could not get away with that either 😂 my wife never listens to my music. All the best from Rob in Devon.
@davidscott2095
@davidscott2095 2 күн бұрын
Great video, Frank. I have about 650 to vinyl albums (all Hip Hop). It seems like a daunting task to catalog them using Discogs, but I guess I will do it.
@Channel33RPM
@Channel33RPM 2 күн бұрын
I totally agree... I'm trying to break it off into small chunks, but I figure it may take me 1.5 to 2 years to do it.
@VMX1.
@VMX1. Күн бұрын
Good episode Frank. All the best and Merry Christmas to you and yours.
@jimb2416
@jimb2416 4 сағат бұрын
Great video Frank!! Interesting results of the survey. I hope the revival is going to last. As an old guy, the artists I grew up with are retiring or disappearing. So, I usually buy on RSD or Black Friday. Merry Christmas to you and your family. May you have a great New Year too! Keep on spinning Frank 👍
@edc.3761
@edc.3761 Күн бұрын
To address the rising cost of records, I got myself a streamer. This allows me to preview albums in high res and limit my purchases to those that I really want. I have been able to reduce my vinyl purchases by about 50%.
@7BobbyGaylor7
@7BobbyGaylor7 2 күн бұрын
Hey Frank. Great video! I’ll probably buy the same amount - but that all depends on releases of course - what I don’t already have is what I gravitate to. Happy Holidays to you and yours! 🎄😺
@Channel33RPM
@Channel33RPM 2 күн бұрын
Happy Holidays to you too!
@daveo2656
@daveo2656 Күн бұрын
My plan for 2025 is to focus on finding and buying grails. I’ll likely end up spending about the same amount of money as in previous years just buying fewer records as the grails I’m searching for are relatively expensive. I have about 600 records in my collections and just filling in a few gaps as i already own close to everything I want.
@tomdowding848
@tomdowding848 Күн бұрын
I've purchased maybe 10 full-priced new records in the last few years. The rest of my collection is birthday/Christmas asks and garage/estate sale finds. I do feel bad for young collectors starting out who don't have as much time as I do to hunt for cheap vinyl.
@denroe3
@denroe3 2 күн бұрын
Great video Frank! I have started putting a limit on the records I buy to $29 and anything more than that I buy on CD. I love music too much to stop buying!
@Channel33RPM
@Channel33RPM 2 күн бұрын
Budgeting/limits are always a good idea. I try to do the same.
@mondoenterprises6710
@mondoenterprises6710 2 күн бұрын
I don't think I ever spent more than $20 for an lp.
@HauntedPallas
@HauntedPallas Күн бұрын
I've recently got back into seeking out vinyl but the prices are prohibitive and intimidating. I really pick and choose which is good BUT also deters me from buying artists I'm not familiar with. Sadly, I've watched as my local used shop has been raising their prices as well. Just because a 2024 remaster of something comes out, that doesn't mean a 30 year old, scratched copy is worth as much. Sigh.
@ToastbackWhale
@ToastbackWhale 2 күн бұрын
It’s interesting that the run away answer for the first question (about issues) was prices but that the results at 5:05 show that the majority of respondents aren’t buying fewer records because of it.
@lordeuronymous
@lordeuronymous 2 күн бұрын
Retro game prices have been absurdly high and increasing from the 2000’s to now. Covid made the already insanely high prices even higher, and they continue to rise even post covid. It sucks, but people still buy.
@MK-tj5bf
@MK-tj5bf 2 күн бұрын
That is a really useful option to catalog your collection by Discogs. Thanks!
@teddylaughter6835
@teddylaughter6835 2 күн бұрын
What do you do if your records don’t have a barcode how do you scan them onto the dicogs
@Channel33RPM
@Channel33RPM 2 күн бұрын
You have to input them manually. I usually search via the catalog number on the spine.
@damirhlobik6488
@damirhlobik6488 Күн бұрын
I spoke to a saleswoman at a vinyl store and she said that customers complain that the quality of LPs is nowhere near the quality of vinyl from 40+ years ago. And the prices are unreasonably high.
@BBB4416
@BBB4416 2 күн бұрын
I feel like rising cost started being the issue 3-4 years ago . I’m way more into finding deals .
@alfonzo7242
@alfonzo7242 Күн бұрын
In my opinion, Discogs is also partly to blame for the exploding vinyl prices! The (professional) dealers drive the prices immeasurably, because Discogs gives them the opportunity to sell uncomplicated and worldwide at extreme prices. The music industry then, of course, goes with it.
@soulbrothanumbahone
@soulbrothanumbahone Күн бұрын
I'm frustrated with the price of records, AND discogs. While they are just a platform, some of the sellers pricing is insane, not to mention issues with record grading. Also, while I do collect LP's, which is the bulk of my collection, I also collect promo 45's & 12" singles. Many times before, I've ordered a promo copy of a record, and received a standard stock copy, and many sellers didn't understand what the big deal was. I've had to explain that often times, the promo variation can be different from stock copies. I haven't placed an order on Discogs in almost 2 months. Previously, I had placed around 100 orders in 2024, but I don't think I'm goiing back there anytime soon, used record pricing on their is getting too expensive.
@richardwhite2344
@richardwhite2344 Күн бұрын
I am spending less on Vinyl. I bought two Brand New vinyl all year and the most recent buy was so disappointing, only liked one song, and after you open the album cannot return it. Even buying used on ebay not having much luck and I find that a lot of sellers don't know how to rate records and I find them in not as good shape as what they listed, but at least in most cases they can be returned
@catdeli
@catdeli 2 күн бұрын
A lot of times a record's price at pre-order will be right at my top limit. Then another chunk for postage puts it out of touch. I opt for the much cheaper CD. Plus I frequent local record store sales where I can find good old stock for a dollar or two and come home with a nice stack.
@nobrakes3765
@nobrakes3765 Күн бұрын
Very few vinyls being bought here and they're never a cold buy, just me collecting my favs. Still getting cds though.
@Mountprospect1
@Mountprospect1 Күн бұрын
definitely buying less due to uk prices. But ive found its had a surprise positive effect on my enjoyment of what Ive already got. Spend way more time enjoying & listening my collection than just endlessly adding to it. S'all good.
@simonarcher1510
@simonarcher1510 2 күн бұрын
I want to share my record buying rules when it comes to money. The Top Bands Rule: When one of my top bands releases music I can buy it regardless of price, in multiple formats without guilt. I’d far sooner own the releases of my top bands since I know I’ll get my money’s worth, while avoiding paying too much later if the music sells out. The Two Boxes of Beer Rule: Since giving up drinking, I can spend the equivalent of two boxes of beer ($40) each month on records without guilt. The Less Than a Panera Sandwich Rule: On any given day I can spend up to $10-$15 on a used record, since it’s less than a Panera sandwich. These rules work well for me, and I believe that record collecting is one of the more wholesome hobbies I could have, so I try to not over think things and just keep on spinning. Cheers Frank.
@FelixtheMetalcat
@FelixtheMetalcat 2 күн бұрын
I like your thinking...
@Jammer90210
@Jammer90210 18 сағат бұрын
The "buy a record and give to your spouse as a gift" thing is kind of what I did this year for Christmas. My girlfriend bought the Linkin Park Hybrid Theory box set and I saw there was a Meteora Box Set too. So I bought it for her for Christmas cause I wanted it in our collection as well! Ha ha ha So when she opens it up, it's not just her gift but a gift to myself too!
@collectingmemoriesyt
@collectingmemoriesyt 2 күн бұрын
I bought 8 albums this year and the only reason I got that many is because a site had a really good discount on a few titles. I want more but when a single LP is $35 and a double is $50+ I just can't justify it, any more.
@juliosanchez8263
@juliosanchez8263 2 күн бұрын
Vinyl is cheaper now than when I was a kid. I bought the Beatles White Album in 1968 for $11.98. That would be a $108 in today's money. To me this is a golden age of vinyl with so many high quality audiophile reissues. Loving vinyl collecting right now.
@Channel33RPM
@Channel33RPM 2 күн бұрын
I feel ya. It's getting harder to justify new albums at those prices.
@VinylRecords-vd7dr
@VinylRecords-vd7dr 23 сағат бұрын
One thing I cannot stand.. is warped vinyl on gatefolds. They make that spine SO thick these days, that the jacket doesn’t sit together evenly, causing edge warps. Also, lots of surface noise, especially on colored vinyl. Just quality issues!
@TorontoJon
@TorontoJon Күн бұрын
Rising record prices are a major factor for record collecting and these days, I'm really not prepared to pay more than $25 for an album, I can live without new vinyl records if I can listen to the album on KZbin for free, and I don't even bother with expensive limited edition boxed sets. Despite having bought about 100 records on Amazon over the past several years for as little as $9.50 to at most $25, but on average, $15 to $20, I mainly prefer to buy records in excellent gently used condition at thrift stores (I've got 2,500 to 3,000 records already; most of which were bought cheaply and used) and I'll take chances on albums priced at two to three dollars each, but when it comes to lofty prices for new records, I don't do any blind buys ever. I always check out the album first on KZbin and even then, I take a moment to decide if I actually need it in my physical media collection or if buying the CD makes more financial sense or if listening to various songs or albums on KZbin for free is good enough at this stage. These are the kinds of purchasing decisions collectors have to determine for themselves depending on budget and practicality. :)
@jcrroadie
@jcrroadie Күн бұрын
I just started back into vinyl the last few months. Not a great time due to prices. I have still purchased several albums, though thank goodness for a closet of 200+ that have been sitting there for 40+ years waiting for me to show them some attention. I bought a ultrasonic and have been running everything through. No way my wife knows what I spend on them. Even the ultrasonic she asked what I paid and I said a couple hundred dollars. The most expensive album I have was $300.
@ginamccane853
@ginamccane853 Күн бұрын
Quality control. I've bought the same Shinedown album twice, both sounded like my player was going way to slow on one side. The other side played fine. Waiting on my local record shop to get a different pressing to swap with.
@limulus61
@limulus61 Күн бұрын
I still have some records I bought back in the late 70s when I was in high school and some from the college years in the early 80s. I recall records costing less than $10 back then. But, to me, that was still a lot for a kid in those days plus I needed beer money in college. I was only buying new vinyl the last couple of years, but I'm pickier now and lot of stuff is purchased on CD. Some of the vinyl I've bought the last year was just bad. I was recently looking to get a new turntable and nearly bought a Technics but wound up with an RT85 instead and I'm happy.
@bacarandii
@bacarandii 2 күн бұрын
LP record prices (new and used) have risen dramatically, more than the cost of living in general, over the last dozen years or so. Until the 2010s, it was rare than a record would sell for $30. Now, that's the low end of the standard MSRP. So, yes, the cost of records is eating up a greater share of the amount of money many people can spend on luxuries like recorded music. It's hard to even find used records at prices comparable to what they were ten years ago. Who hasn't noticed? Even CD prices are spiking -- maybe because the US record factories that converted to CD facilities in the '80s and '90s are now either closed or converting back to LPs again!
@bacarandii
@bacarandii 2 күн бұрын
P.S. And if the incoming US administration slaps "ten to one thousand percent" tariffs on all imports (including petroleum products used for vinyl) as promised, you can expect record prices (and the cost of everything else) to skyrocket overnight.
@juliosanchez8263
@juliosanchez8263 2 күн бұрын
Vinyl is cheaper now than when I was a kid. I bought the Beatles White Album in 1968 for $11.98. That would be a $108 in today's money. To me this is a golden age of vinyl with so many high quality audiophile reissues. Loving vinyl collecting right now.
@bacarandii
@bacarandii 2 күн бұрын
@@juliosanchez8263 Yes, inflation is universal, but (I think Chanel 33 RPM did a video on this), you have to consider the cost of everything else, too, as a proportion of your income and expenses. I agree that recent audiophile LP reissues of long OOP jazz titles (at 33 1/3 rpm -- no 45s for me) are great, and they're about all I'm interested in -- mainly because, as Frank and others have said, I already have good copies (either on vinyl or CD) of most of the thousands of back catalog titles I have always wanted. At the same time, I don't want to buy new digitally recorded pop music on vinyl (a format for which it was not conceived or recorded) because there's very little such music that interests me. I'm not the target audience. I'm old.
@onsenkuma-l2p
@onsenkuma-l2p Күн бұрын
If the rising costs of vinyl (and CDs) doesn't get you then ridiculous shipping prices will...
@raggeragnar
@raggeragnar 2 күн бұрын
Hello Frank! This is great. Comparing yourself to the survey results gives you a general idea about you as a collector and for others around the world. Brilliant ! /R
@Channel33RPM
@Channel33RPM 2 күн бұрын
Cool, thanks
@dietmarsteiner1070
@dietmarsteiner1070 2 күн бұрын
The prices for everything are going up, that's right! For food, rent, energy, gasoline, clothes (if you don't like to go out naked)...you need to pay for all these things! You better save money for things you have to replace, for example refridgerator, car, stereo system (how would you play records without?) and others! But you don't need to buy overpriced records! If you can afford, it's okay! I'd rather listen to the stuff I already have! If I play through every record, mostly CDs, I would take years before I'm ready!
@rogerdarby908
@rogerdarby908 9 сағат бұрын
I started buying records in the mid 60s. List price was$5.98. Gas was .25/gallon. Are people going to stop driving? A case of lone star was $3.99. Are people going to stop drinking?
@carminedesanto6746
@carminedesanto6746 2 күн бұрын
Good evening 🥶❄️🎄☕️🍩 My issue is (I’m going through my record collection..getting rid of dupes and dead /poor pressings) is you’re paying near premium prices for ..MEH quality …I’ll still buy vinyl…but I’m extremely picky.
@Channel33RPM
@Channel33RPM 2 күн бұрын
I know exactly what you mean.
@MarkHiFi_Guy
@MarkHiFi_Guy 2 күн бұрын
Is that a Cambridge audio amplifier in the background beside your Technics turntable?
@Channel33RPM
@Channel33RPM 2 күн бұрын
Sharp eye.... I got some near gear recently, including a Cambridge Audio AXA35 amp and DALI speakers. I've done some mixing and matching and now have 2 systems I'm really happy with. I will do a vid in the new year. Cheers!
@MarkHiFi_Guy
@MarkHiFi_Guy 2 күн бұрын
@Channel33RPM I'm excited about the video ,,cheers
@MarkHiFi_Guy
@MarkHiFi_Guy Күн бұрын
Maybe also have a video talking about the discogs app and how to use for your record collection
@ziggyfarfalism7001
@ziggyfarfalism7001 11 сағат бұрын
I gave up on vinyl and have been buying only CD. In 2024 I bought about 150 CD (almost all pre 1993) and no LP albums.
@TheDreamtimezzz
@TheDreamtimezzz Күн бұрын
I’ve been collecting less popular areas / groups. Still very affordable as the mainstream ignores some great music.
@danielgeiger7739
@danielgeiger7739 2 күн бұрын
1) Availability. All too often, new releases discussed are sold out all too soon. 2) No. If I like it, if it is available, I buy it. 3) Same +/- 2 standard deviations. 4) 100-250, but I think only one out of about 1500. 50-100: a bunch, particularly specialty packaging releases. 5) Yes.
@Bondrkmz
@Bondrkmz 21 сағат бұрын
I did pick quality control because I’ve boughten some new releases (new Judas Priest for instance) that was warped. Still sounded fine, but didn’t want to hassle with returning it. It’s not the only one.
@markadams4316
@markadams4316 Күн бұрын
I haven't bought any records in a long time. I'm happy with my collection right now but, I still have my "bucket list" and I look. But, I'm not paying those prices, even for used records. I have Spotify and Apple Music to fill the void.
@spotshooter1
@spotshooter1 Күн бұрын
Used to buy lot's of vinyl, now I'm super picky. I've got to love it to buy it. Listen to more digital as a result.
@andyshacks7812
@andyshacks7812 2 күн бұрын
Loved some of those comments, especially on the last question 😅. The price of new records is definitely an issue for me but it seems to be mainly the majors who have really upped their prices. A lot of new releases on smaller independent labels still seem affordable , at least here in the UK.
@SpyderTracks
@SpyderTracks 2 күн бұрын
Unfortunately records have been cottoned onto by scalpers and this is affecting the second hand market as much as new. I’m still buying shed loads of new records, almost always on pre order as off Discogs they almost always inflate to double the cost as soon as they’re sold out. I have picked up some early copies of Pink Floyd records as I think they are only going to go up and 1st press German copies (which used the same metals as UK copies) are still fairly reasonable in good condition but I don’t think that’s going to last. But I really need to put the brakes on, it is getting very expensive and I have other priorities in the near future with moving etc. Thanks so much for all your videos this year, wishing you and your family happy holidays!
@Channel33RPM
@Channel33RPM 2 күн бұрын
Thank you - all the best to you and yours.
@willyb3463
@willyb3463 2 күн бұрын
I just paid £66 in England for 3 new lps, they're good but it seems extortionate.
@memal25
@memal25 Күн бұрын
One reason I've been slow to update Discogs with me collection is I keep track of my hours on a stylus in the spreadsheet I made. Do you have a way you track that so you're not burning wax with an old needle?
@memal25
@memal25 Күн бұрын
Spiritual investment is a great way to put it. I quit drinking and spend my spare cash on music and experiences, is concerts, tickets to live games
@taylorquail9240
@taylorquail9240 Күн бұрын
Price. 100%. I'm a 30 minute drive from the closest record store, so most of my record purchasing is done online. A new release is now a $40 record, and if you're lucky the distro/label is in the same the country, if not, tack on at minimum $25 for shipping. Your new record is now a $65 purchase. Heaven forbid you factor exchange rates that are NOT in your favor (RIP Canada) and now it's even more. Purchases take consideration and thought. Even on the off chance I get to browse at a record store, impulse purchases are a thing of the past. The ease of access at your finger tips to price anything takes away the bargain finds and excitement. Savvy store owners have access to the same info, and utilize it. Posting the rare record they got in on their social media so it gets snapped up immediately. Gone are the days of big scores (or at minimum far less common). The hobby has changed, as does everything. It's hitting a point where I've considered off loading my entire collection as the desire to continue supporting the industry dwindles by the month.
@jaelynaspera
@jaelynaspera Күн бұрын
I still occasionally buy vinyl if it's something I really like, especially if it's not avaliable on CD. I've always been a CD person for the sound quality and it's just easier to do CDs than vinyl. I still enjoy buying some vinyl though it's a neat format
@Don_Alejandro-f7g
@Don_Alejandro-f7g Күн бұрын
I think vinyl is going to implode.... I've noticed this year that more and more buyers are grumbling about the quality of new vinyl / vinyl reissues - not just the usual vinyl defects, but the poor mastering to disc. Here on KZbin, there's been people grumbling about lousy sound on the 6 LP Sade set, also groove "fill in" on some of the Beatles Mono 7 LP set. With the latter at over £200, you can understand why people are starting to realise it's all a bit of a con. I also think that when younger folk see the farty old black t-shirt crowd boring on about vinyl on KZbin, it won't be long before the whole "vinyl is cool" schtick suddenly looks naff.
@JJ-qs9hu
@JJ-qs9hu 2 күн бұрын
It really depends on what comes out. Early this year a few artists I loved released new albums and they were really disappointing. Some of the other questions. I spent $50 on a single album but box sets the most expensive being $125. I always look for Amazon marketplace copies. I've had very good luck with those. I'm glad I don't have to answer to anyone what I spend.
@neuroisis85
@neuroisis85 2 күн бұрын
Ripped all my records to FLAC and sold them this year. They cost to much, take up to much space and honestly they just started annoying me, I'm done. I realized I just like the sound of vinyl and don't care about the actual record and owning physical objects like that. FLAC keeps that sound intact and makes things much more convenient. Luckily I have a friend who owns a record store and they're letting me take records home and rip them.
@SpyderTracks
@SpyderTracks 2 күн бұрын
How long had you been collecting?
@neuroisis85
@neuroisis85 2 күн бұрын
@@SpyderTracks Over a decade
@SpyderTracks
@SpyderTracks 2 күн бұрын
@ man, that’s a real shame. But if you’re getting your kicks out of digital rips I guess that’s all you need.
@neuroisis85
@neuroisis85 2 күн бұрын
@SpyderTracks I'm just not a collector, I did the same thing with CD's. Had hundreds of them and got rid of them before I started buying vinyl. It's so nice to just hit play on a FLAC player and let the album play all the way through and get the same sound without having to flip, brush or clean the record.
@SpyderTracks
@SpyderTracks 2 күн бұрын
@ for me it wasn’t just the sound, with digital I just lost my passion for listening to music, can’t quantify why, the ritual of caring for vinyl and playback enhanced my overall experience and satisfaction. Never felt as into music as I do now with any other media, digital or otherwise.
@toddbailey6641
@toddbailey6641 Күн бұрын
Shipping out of California is outrageous.
@aaronmuthaalamare4165
@aaronmuthaalamare4165 9 сағат бұрын
Awesome episode Frank! I’m in the minority whereas i buy more records now than ever before, i look at this as the reissue and first issue of records that were never released on vinyl “golden era” and I’m taking advantage while they are available, i don’t think it will last forever and I’m really enjoying finally having so many great titles i never thought I’d have in my collection, JC’s comment was priceless, he’s the best!! And of course you’re still the king of the VC ! Thank you for everything you do! And happy holidays to you and your family!! Cheers 🍻🍻🍻🍻👍🤘🤘
@joemartucci4786
@joemartucci4786 Күн бұрын
I buy the same amount but what happens is my wife gets vinyl for me for Christmas birthday anniversary etc lol. I have plenty of clothes... I'm a jeans tshirt guy lol. She goes out of her way to find color vinyl for me also. She got me a couple of the Atlantic 45 Genesis releases. Hers is clothes so we compliment each other plus she's gotten me a couple new basses also for Christmas....yes I'm very lucky & blessed.
@ronmartin4212
@ronmartin4212 Күн бұрын
I'm into '50's and '60's,so never have price problems,especially when I'm an originals only collectors.No problems with bad pressings,bad playback,warpage.I get a nice a condition copy as I can find.Im into 45s more,so they can be easy to find in nice shape Even oddballers in garage,doowop,psychpop,beat group,and girl group ones,I can find nice copies,especially if they're promos,where stockers are not easy,or they dont show up as stocks,really obscure titles.
@mrhoffame
@mrhoffame 2 күн бұрын
Great vid Frank! \m/
@NoShowShattuck
@NoShowShattuck Күн бұрын
Everything - EVERYTHING - gets ruined by the masses eventually.
@RubixVanwalkman
@RubixVanwalkman Күн бұрын
I' ve been buying used records since the mid -80's so I pretty much have everything I want. That said, I feel like the used market has been picked clean. Seems like what's left out there these days is all low grade records that would have been overlooked in previous years.
@taurusrush420
@taurusrush420 21 сағат бұрын
I think I'm good with vinyl. Plenty of titles, hi rez, Atmos... music today is not my music. I'm saturated with plenty of great choices now.
@Clara-ph7my
@Clara-ph7my Күн бұрын
I like vinyl because it is like purchasing a piece of merchandise. A bit like you T Shirt (which is great by the way).
@Channel33RPM
@Channel33RPM Күн бұрын
Awesome - thanks!
@larrybuzan7687
@larrybuzan7687 19 сағат бұрын
When I younger person working for less then five dollars per hour records about five dollars now makeing over twenty dollars a hour the records are still about one hour of work so what the difference as buying used records the cost record shop overhead has gone up as well rent the cost of collection because people are looking up prices on discoge and asking more for their records
@greghawkins229
@greghawkins229 Күн бұрын
I have spent four figures on three separate records. All Beatles
@athena2zeus54
@athena2zeus54 Күн бұрын
I pretty much stopped a couple of years ago I used to scour thrift stores almost every day after work..there aren’t many out there and if there is they are charging waaaay too much.
@coolguy-wolf
@coolguy-wolf Күн бұрын
The price of vinyl records is crazy. I only bought four vinyl records this year. All of them were on sale. But I got about 20+ CDs this year. There were albums I wanted on vinyl, but I just got them on CD instead. Moving forward I'll be just buy CDs. Kind of sucks because there is music I want but it's only on vinyl. But I can't buy them at the high price if there is a good sale I might pick them up. If not just go get something else on CD lol.
@neilhenderson181
@neilhenderson181 Күн бұрын
I don’t mind paying crazy prices for vinyl releases that I want but the majority of vinyl in today’s world are warped.Certainly in my experience anyway
@bonesjackson81
@bonesjackson81 15 сағат бұрын
I found at about 700 albums and no room the recently surging prices don't matter to me as there's not much left i truly want. If anything I do upgrades like AP or Rhino Hi Fi. Which when compared to mofi prices they're steals. Better to boot.
@tomhastings6204
@tomhastings6204 Күн бұрын
I wish I would have seen this survey. Very interesting results. The Screaming for Vengeance album over your left shoulder brought back a memory, when that was originally released the vinyl was so thin that most pressings were so warped that they were unplayable. I returned that album seven times before I got a playable copy. Anyway, I'm at a point in my life where I can buy what I want and have purchased both LP and CD if something didn't sound so good. For example, I got the LP of Dawes Misadventures of Doomscroller and thought it sounded muddy. The CD sounded so much better! Long story longer, I now plan on buying both CD and LP if I don't like the sound of one format. My kids will have quite a collection to sort through when I'm gone.
@Channel33RPM
@Channel33RPM Күн бұрын
Sorry you missed it... I will likely roll out another one next December.
@pierreduchesne0001
@pierreduchesne0001 8 сағат бұрын
It's fair to say that the vinyl renaissance is running out of steam. Not necessarily a bad thing, as what should be celebrated is the music, rather than the audio format. The younger generation has their Spotify account, is used to a certain sound, and given the price of vinyl, the cost of maintenance of LPs, the vinyl revival can't last in the long term. The CD revival as a complementary effect is welcome. It's good to own your music, rather than rent it. A few LPs for the albums which are really special for you, CDs for albums you want to listen to repeatedly and read the liner notes etc. In my opinion, the real challenge is to make the CD format more interesting. Vinyl has beautiful covers, a beautiful product. CD has always struggled with this aspect. Maybe the industry should look what is done in Japan, where some Japanese CDs editions are particularly attractive. Your channel is really a top one, honest and lucid, close to the fans. Thanks. Happy Holidays to you and yours.
@jimsmith3477
@jimsmith3477 Күн бұрын
i’m pretty much priced out of buying any new records. it’s hard to justify dropping over $40 for a new album when u can buy many Cds with that.
@CaptFwiffo
@CaptFwiffo 23 сағат бұрын
Nice to hear Jason the "Metal Jesus" being shouted out on a vinyl channel. Check him out if you are into anything relating to video games, especially retro stuff.
@robertmata4293
@robertmata4293 14 сағат бұрын
In my area used cds are 4 dollars used records are 2 dollars.
@mondoenterprises6710
@mondoenterprises6710 2 күн бұрын
I did just pick up the deluxe anniversary REM New Adventures in Hifi for $19, 2 cds, 1 bluray, book, 7" design.
@mikebruce5523
@mikebruce5523 17 сағат бұрын
I only buy CDs so price isn't quite as much of an issue. Yet. My biggest bugbear is availability. I would much prefer to buy from a bricks and mortar store but they don't carry much of the music I like because it's on smaller labels.
@saraturgeon6273
@saraturgeon6273 2 күн бұрын
Another great video!!
@Channel33RPM
@Channel33RPM 2 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
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