Inside UK hospital overstretched and under pressure

Patients in England are seeing the worst ambulance response times and longest A&E waits on record - while almost 55,000 people waited more than 12 hours in A&E last month, a sharp increase on the month before.
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The number of beds taken up by people medically fit to be discharged also hit a record high.
It has left health service staff wondering how bad things have to get before the government takes urgent action.
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[@taintedsoul888]

Steve Barclay was on at 8 am on Radio 4 the other day talking about how he was due to meet with the doctors union. At 9 am, he had cancelled the meeting due to 'other commitments' i.e he wanted to carry on doing his media round talking about how nurses should be more productive. I think it shows how much disdain he has for the entire workforce, and why the strike is absolutely necessary to call the public's attention to this feckless nonsense ministers might routinely do, as this is a game to them, but has no place when you're talking about healthcare! The other tory talking point was that excess deaths are due to covid treatment delays, and europe is affected. NHS England estimates 300-500 excess deaths specifically due to hospital pressures and A&E waiting times, this is before the strikes, comparing covid deaths from earlier in the year, and deaths from 2019. The strikes are a last ditch effort to change things. Junior and middle grade doctors are earning 30% less in real terms than they did in 2011, and the job is getting harder due to staff shortages, fewer training jobs despite the waiting list going up, leading to more people leaving. The fix for this is simple, and costs less than all the money they squandered on useless PPE, dodgy contracts for their mates, and stupid plans resulting in our current economic state.

[@johnmichaelford3615]

The tories have messed everything up. The nurses deserve a pay rise because of the hours and the amount of time they are overworked in all departments

[@av7470]

👍👍👍

[@lincslegend6936]

Spot on and we'll said. He might need them one day soon, he doesn't look very healthy, quite grey skin actually.

[@timmytab2836]

It's all designed. They're pushing for the collapse so we are forced to adopt the private American model. I'm sure they have had significance bribes (lobbying) from corporations or individuals that will benefit significantly from this change. The root cause is pay being too low to attract employees. They want to keep it that way.

[@KaleemAkbar786]

🙄🙄🙄

[@SuperMcbonez]

This is where 12 years of tory rule has left us. Watch them point the finger at anyone but themselves. Even resorting to blaming nurses for this dire mess. This government are an absolute joke.

[@rhinoboy6603]

This. It’s the war in Ukraine, it’s the migrants, it’s the NHS management, it’s the nurses, it’s the unions. No mate it’s you (Tories) Classic divide and rule, but seems some people still fall for it.

[@Kwippy]

Sure blame the politicians for the woeful state of the NHS but it was the British public that for the past 12 years voted for Tory tax cuts over public spending, then voted for Brexit knowing that the foreign workers on whom the NHS critically depends on will be kicked out. You get the government you deserve and you get the NHS you deserve.

[@By-Fun-Jokes-Guitars]

@@Kwippy spot on .. 👍 voter idiots....

[@SuperMcbonez]

@@Kwippy I never voted tory so why are you conflating me with one? That's like saying every German during the 1930s and 40s were nazis because their leaders were nazi. I'm no fan of the Chinese government but I don't blame every Chinese person for it. I see no reason why that shouldn't apply in the UK. I disagree with brexit but I don't bother arguing about it with people who voted leave or blame them for the mess we are in. It's the politicians who got us to that point in the first place.

[@cobblebrick]

@@Kwippy You're ready to blame anyone and everything but HEAVEN FORBID someone points a finger at your precious Tories 🤣

[@petermackenzie5217]

The NHS staff are striking because they do not have the resources to operate as we require them to, so when journalists ask 'surely you are making things worse by striking?' the answer is yes, they are making things worse, but only in the short term. If they were given the resources they needed to operate in the first place they wouldn't need to strike. Disgraceful victim blaming

[@SamuelBlack84]

I have absolutely no respect for the press because they demonise everyone and anything

[@jaxxoceans3866]

Oh OK so all the public suffering and deaths is justified then is it smh

[@realmtraveller]

@@jaxxoceans3866 try doing the job of nurses, you wouldn't last 1 hr, they are spat upon, sworn at, puked on, urinated on, and shat on intentionally by patients on a regular basis. there aren't enough nurses in A&E or in the wards, there aren't enough Doctors in the wards every single department within the NHS is under crippling shortage across the country, and the only department in there is no shortage in is the managerial posts most of which are unnecessary. resources are stretched beyond thin, resulting in the inability to give effective treatment. 100% the nurses and paramedics deserve to go on strike and demand better pay and working conditions as do doctors. I am fully in support of the strikes and anyone with any ounce of deceny will support the strikes

[@jaxxoceans3866]

@@realmtraveller government gonna pass a new law banning these strikes. They decided to become nurses and normally the drunks doing all the nasty things u said. I've seen people poo off at nurses a few times in 40 years but them nurses deserved it. NHS has sunk and that was all part of the plan. Besides we have no money n increasing pay will lead to a complete collapse of our country n nobody will have a job or health care SMH

[@allisonhans842]

@@jaxxoceans3866 people are dying now with the poor state of the nhs and only getting worse . it’s last resort

[@JohnStibal]

Don't grow old and don't get sick.

[@yuritarded1527]

i hope this is a joke

[@louisegould8840]

It has been bad for years. I left to go and work in the Middle East 5 years ago because it was so many times I was told by managers (nhs) , “if you can’t get your break in a 12 hour shift then it’s your time management, no because it’s too busy. “.

[@justadude8369]

the NHS is an absolutely toxic place to workm thats what happens when your employer has a monopoly over you - no respect for the employees

[@kitty2527]

Nursing is a very physically, emotionally and mentally draining occupation and we worked on a very tight rope of protocol and staff constraints.

[@rileybuchan8466]

Yeahh while those managers sit pretty in their ivory towers

[@xsentfromuk8938]

Finally, management will be running around stressed and panic due to the long overdue accountability as to how the nhs got to this and allowed staff looses without recruitment.

[@Dontlikefruit]

@@kitty2527 so true and management are only accountable to those above. No real support for those at the sharp end.

[@edytapotoczniak2987]

Too low pay for NHS staff does not attract healthcare staff. This is something the government should look at

[@Suzanne-f4x]

Socialism is bad.

[@TheWiseJames]

After 12 years of under funding the NHS this is what happens. The NHS is more important than everything in the UK except maybe the armed forces even that is up for debate. More important than politics and any political party.

[@888ssss]

its unfit for purpose and an economic dinosaur. i have private care and for £46 i dont have to line up behind half the third world for a scan.

[@TheWiseJames]

@@888ssss No the current economic policies are not fit for purpose, 2 budget surplus since like 1975. Because business teaches us that a budget surplus is good(profit) and modern economics teaches us a country's budget surplus is a failure because it means the private sector did worse. Funny how we have had a global recession nearly every decade since the 70s. If any company had not made 1 penny profit for 12 years what would happen? If you on a food deficit you would eventually starve. This country has not made 1 penny profit since 2002.

[@URBeingLiedTo]

I see this lie a lot recently. The NHS receives more and more money each year though. Mismanagement and inappropriate allocation of funds is the actual problem. Like tens of millions of pounds being spent on diversity officers every year. Ideology is sapping money from our health service and now we have unions encouraging staff to walk out on strikes.

[@theGENIUSofART-understood]

indeed

[@TheWiseJames]

@@URBeingLiedTo People are striking because of working conditions that are caused by under funding by cuts. Sadly tories think cuts for savings creates more money when it is the same amount not more so cannot counter a growing debt you already could not afford to pay, just mis managed b y the tory party is the problem. Investment for profit is what this country needs, national industry, wealth investment fund. You will find that at the cause of nearly every major problem in the uk right now is down to tory mis management, Yet they all keep blaming unions, immigrants, ukraine, putin, covid, inflation. When a system is failing you do not blame the people trying to fix it you blame the people running and controlling it.

[@lesleyrobertson5465]

I’m a nurse of 29 years and I have problems with kidney stones due to not being able to go to the toilet in 12.5hr shifts

[@alyshamentari437]

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[@RaviKumar-pp3pr]

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[@RaviKumar-pp3pr]

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[@JamesDavid-xi6wx]

Hey thanks 🙏 for your respond hope all is fine with you

[@JamesDavid-xi6wx]

How are you doing now and how's your health now?

[@simplerelaxation11]

The NHS is not underfunded. They have way too many people being paid ‘in the middle.’ Shall we also look at how much NHS funding has gone into the pockets of contractors and ‘mates’ of MPs? They are deliberately running it into the ground to privatise it. If that’s going to be the case, I’m assuming our taxes will be reduced.

[@rhinoboy6603]

Oh but you know that won’t happen though don’t ya.

[@rileybuchan8466]

Lol but it's the Tory's here, they loveee to cut services and raise taxes, and it's probably no secret I'd imagine that they want to privatise it and these strikes are preventing that, which is why it's being made illegal

[@RankinMsP]

I like how the govt talks about fighting for the common people whilst not acknowledging that the people going on strike are common people. I will also be interested to see if MPs feel they are worth a pay rise this year because they are more 'productive'.

[@thisismetoday]

If I have one more "reporter" asking whether [insert any group] are not making the situation worse by going on strike, I am going to get very angry.

[@cobblebrick]

@@tabularasa7775 The truth does make me angry. The truth is that the NHS is criminally underfunded and the people trying to fix the problem are being demonised.

[@gogglebox2427]

40 years ago, some change happened in NHS. Nurses HAD to have Degrees. We lost people who were not Academically driven. They had "Caring" as THEIR main driver. Auxiliary Nurses were the backbone who did the bathing, feeding, chatting to.. patients. Nurses now don't have time to do the "Caring" aspect. They are "Nursing". So, we removed people who didn't give drugs or do paperwork. THEY "Cared" for the patient, and let Medics take care of Medical matters. We need non-Degree Auxillary Nurses/Carers as the human side of Hospital. At same time 40 years ago, we closed Convalescent Homes. They worked in tandem with Hospitals, taking people who didn't need to be in Hospital any longer, but weren't quite ready to go home, or had no Care Package to support Home Discharge. If you remove one whole section of NHS (Convalescent Homes) you leave Hospitals coping with "bed blocking" and expensive Care. Convalescent Homes operated on more patients to each Carer than Hospital model. You only needed one or two Doctors to cover all of the Home, a couple of Nurses, and the rest of the staff were Auxillary staff. We can fix NHS by simply going BACK in time to 1960s/70s, when Convalescent Homes and Auxillary Nurses took up the slack from Hospitals and Qualified Nurses.

[@peachmelba1637]

And what happened to geriatric wards??? Seemed to be better care than nursing homes... and if the elderly have their own wards would stop bed blocking

[@gogglebox2427]

@@peachmelba1637 they still have geriatrics wards where I am. I was put in one to recover from an operation, as they had no beds on the Medical Wards. It was horrendous. The Nurses were not nice. Very sharp and cutting with patients. I ended up feeding the old lady in the bed next to me, as the Nurses just plonked the plate down. The lady had Dementia. Convalescent Homes were always full of laughter, and basket weaving, and creative arts. Bring them back, and send elderly or recuperating patients there once they don't need Hospital care/whilst elderly are waiting to get in a Care Home. NHS thinks Hospitals.. "can be all things to all men". That model doesn't work.

[@strangemagic5502]

You set a worthy debate but unless the government and those in charge of the NHS revert back to those higher standards, the NHS will never recover. I suggest you put this to your local MP in your constituency but, alas they would probably make some excuses.

[@gogglebox2427]

@@strangemagic5502 I've used the simple argument.. "two into one won't go, unless you want a fraction" .... of the quality. .. to multiple people in Authority. Sadly Political Correctness/"Big is beautiful"/all progression is good, are the arguments they use. After decades of arm wrestling them, they now concede NHS is failing. NOW, they may look back to Convalescent Homes as the cheaper model for those almost fit to go home, instead of taking up a bed in the more expensive Hospital model. I've found, you have to let them think it's THEIR idea when they improve things. I think they are listening now. 👍

[@Suzanne-f4x]

Every professional in a hospital must be degreed. Otherwise, the person who mops the room is delivering medical care.

[@canergs1504]

We support more strikes for better healthcare and working conditions

[@winstoningram99]

We? No. WE support sacking the greedy, overpaid nurses and replacing them.

[@Murphy252000]

I'm three years trained mental health nurse, so six years all in. You know what I have been doing this week, looking jobs in supermarkets in my own town. By the time I commute 80 miles I would not be far off every month, the pension etc does not matter tbh as I could be dead tomorrow, and I'm not sick often. I can then do agency work at £37 an hour to make up when I wish. Keep it up Tories, keep it up!

[@stn7172]

How much did you get paid as a nurse?

[@kitty2527]

I am from Singapore, hang up my scrub suit in 2017 and never looked back. I am very sad to see the state of nurses everywhere globally in such bad shape. Poor patient outcomes as well and the ppl in charge dun care enough.

[@Murphy252000]

@@stn7172 start at £13.50 an hour after three years at uni

[@Murphy252000]

@@kitty2527 what do you do now for work mucker, yeah the pay in the UK is actually a kick in the teeth.

[@kitty2527]

@@Murphy252000 I am working as an Administrator in the Marine industry for a Japanese firm and I have my own online and retail business on the side. I have families in NZ and Australia so I want to expand my online and retail business in this region, Singapore is a very good place to do business, taxes is low and government is willing to help business go digital, warehousing, logistics... I have my own network so I will be looking into expanding my business and once it is more established, I will quit my Administrator job. I speak and write 4 languages, English, Chinese,, Cantonese and Japanese.

[@MystM]

Interview with that Dr was edited poorly and cut up, he had his arms infront of him then in the next shot they were folded then it looked like they were infront of him again. The words he's saying doesn't match his lip movement but he's wearing a mask covering his mouth so he could've said anything and we'd never know. That's a bit sus reporting.

[@AaronJCassidy]

I hope people are happy with their voting choices these last 12 years, because this is the result. Well done.

[@ukguy]

I agree, if anyone I know votes Tories in the next election then they are dead to me.

[@treadstone1970]

These clowns got what they wanted and voted for now they need to live with it. I show no sympathy for the stupid.

[@whatisrokosbasilisk80]

@@ukguy Yes, please pointlessly polarise further.

[@AaronJCassidy]

@@whatisrokosbasilisk80 What does it matter? Successive Tory governments have only gotten worse, and yet the Tories still got an 80 seat majority last election. Stupid is as stupid does.

[@akkinak]

@@AaronJCassidy Who would you suggest people vote for instead? The opposition in previous elections has been abysmal, it has been the shiniest of turds that has won. I would say the opposition is at least getting things together now though.

[@arthurdanielles4784]

Note the 'average time to be seen'.. 108 mins = Nearly TWO HOURS .. This is NOT representative of the true waiting time across A and E departments nationwide. NOR this hospital, it applies to that moment in time.. another time and that time could be HOURS and HOURS ie 4 hours, 6 hours. DO remember as well that to 'be seen' does NOT mean by a Doctor etc NOR does it mean that the person waiting ie the 'patient' will not be left waiting for HOURS after this. Patients can end up waiting for HOURS and then if it is decided they need to be admitted to hospital?? Further HOURS stuck on a trolley in the corridor before being moved to a ward et FACT.

[@SkyNocturne0]

The two tier system also means that the rich are going to private even though they've already paid for public. Isn't it better for the NHS?

[@SorminaESar]

All of UK's people, especially the peoples of the hospitals like patients, nurse, ambulance workers and cleaning servicers be patient, thoug and keep praying in any circumstances, God save and bless all of you, guys to be better in the next day.🙏

[@treadstone1970]

How will praying help?

[@Kwippy]

Sure the Gods will magic everything better! No need for strikes just pray and God will suddenly give everyone a big pay rise! Genius idea!

[@SorminaESar]

@@Kwippy you didn't hear what Rishi Sunak said that no budget again to tackle nurses payment, so what the benefits will be getting of protest and strike the government, deadlock man

[@akkinak]

@@SorminaESar You actually trust a word that snake says? He's a proven liar just like his predecessors.

[@rinag598]

Tory LIARS, they are a mafia mate

[@aaap3875]

The US is always hiring nurses, nurses in the State of California can start at 80-100k USD a year. After a 5-6 years some nurses in California can make $150k. In other lower living cost states nurses can also start at 50-90k, and the job comes with good health insurance paid by the hospitals. Most importantly nurses are highly regarded, respected, and compensated for their work.

[@matthew9625]

dont think the qualification is transferable to the states though

[@Jfalways]

Thanks for the great advert for working in the US!!!!! UK is desperatly TRYING to retain its staff so the situation gets better.

[@yvonnefarrell1029]

At least the patients are not going bankrupt as they are across the pond for the same dreadful "care".

[@user-vj5cy2ms3f]

Look at the bigger picture. Patience are at a and e for 6 hours for a presction. Because GP are still not seeing patients. GP could do this in 10 minutes. But they seen to want to break the system. Apparently this is want they are told to say call 111 go A and E. They work so hard at hospital and its long over due something needs to be done. Government step in with GP or is it all starting from government. Something is not right.

[@John_259]

If we had a government that worked for the benefit of the people, all this suffering could be avoided.

[@wublix]

At least the bankers got their bonuses! Phew

[@fuckbankers]

We bailed them out too

[@theGENIUSofART-understood]

grrrrrr

[@hilaireedmond1125]

I have graduated since 2000, moved to England in 2001. I was entitled to temporary registration with the dental council for 2 years according to GDC and be able to extend for 5 years and then have to pass de ORE exam . I went to Leeds dental school to apply for a post and I have been told this opportunity doesn’t exist . I ended up working as kitchen porter, as postman . Now I work as a clerical officer at Leeds Teaching HOSPITAL LEEDS . They advertised an apprenticeship programm for nurses , I applied and my application has been turned down because I didn’t have a GSCE in maths and English . I have been working since 2001 where I use English to communicate. I am not the only one in this situation , they are thousands of qualified doctors in England whose not been given a chance to get into the system and help tacle the staff shortage . It’s ridiculous

[@aaap3875]

The US is always hiring nurses, nurses in the State of California can start at 80-100k USD a year. After a 5-6 years some nurses in California can make $150k. In other lower living cost states nurses can also start at 50-90k, and the job comes with good health insurance paid by the hospitals. Most importantly nurses are highly regarded, respected, and compensated for their work.

[@vivan10]

Why aren't there more doctor and nurses trained in the UK. The NHS is far to reliant on foreign health workers. There should be a push to train up British nurses and doctors.

[@Wishing_you_peace]

It comes with debt, unfortunately.

[@rhinoboy6603]

Better pay them more then to attract people to the job. Not sure why it matters if you are British or not, that just comes across as racist.

[@flyinghigh2701]

Because the nhs isn't where the money is, its the private health sector. Honestly I think the NHS model is dead. Other countries get by with private health care

[@anarchism1]

Do u know how much it takes to train a doctor? Who is funding it? Why would one get A++ in gcse/A levels train for 6 years to get paid 22K as a F1.

[@myoldvhstapes]

The new British doctors are lured away by the high pay of countries like Australia.

[@gittube417]

If your "socialized medicine" isn't working, then scrap National Insurance contributions and let people choose their own health plan with that extra money....this will stimulate a network of privately run hospitals with competitive salaries...like here in the US. Nurse's in general are paid well - I think about $50 to $70 an hour ( I'll have to check that), based on locations. something to consider????

[@byblispersephone2.094]

Yes the pay for British nurses, and other healthcare professionals, is just terrible in comparison with US pay

[@Kwippy]

Sure blame the politicians for the woeful state of the NHS but it was the British public that for the past 12 years voted for Tory tax cuts over public spending, then voted for Brexit knowing that the foreign workers on whom the NHS critically depends on will be kicked out. You get the government you deserve and you get the NHS you deserve.

[@Kieran-Hodgson]

I don't hate anyone who voted for brexit / the conservatives, but I think they were sold lies about what the benefits/ consequences would be. What's important is that they can realise that they can at least mitigate what has happened by voting after learning the lesson that the only people that benefitted were those at the top. And the polls have been showing this is happening. It's just a huge shame there isn't going to be an election until next year.

[@Dylanesque]

Yet the politicians are to blame, every last one of them. They've all had a hand in the slow destruction of the NHS. Particularly the Tories who see the institution as a means to make a profit for themselves and their already wealthy chums.

[@greenwendal5056]

Yeah coz voting makes a difference 🙄

[@alyshamentari437]

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[@user-ms7we3gu6u]

The reality without camera you'll see hardly the participation of the Lead nurses or Matrons giving direct nursing care to the patients....

[@ledafrancescamichela5519]

The govern must pay for high achieving poor students who want to study medicine, nursing, for social care courses, IT, engeneering and all technology that is used for hospitals' machinery. They should pay for the full university course, for their rent where they would have their own room each with tables etc to study and nothing would disturb them and there would be no distractions and should also pay for studying material for wi-fi and 4g or 5g devices, for energy and a little money for expenditure, so that these young peole can concentrate exclusively on doing well at University. This is the only way to quickly get new well qualified and competent personnel. These jobs should be for UK kids. All the world has a shortage of doctors, nurses etc and UK is the worst in Europe. To reap grain you must saw grain seeds or you will not have an harvest. The same is for doctors nurese engeneers etc. Is not good that they just sit on it while their wages have gone up by £30.000 since Cameron stepped in office and reduced funding for the NHS. They have very generous wages plus other jobs and still get their meals refunded. They ate £17 million worth of food in the last 3 years alone and yet they claim that the state has no money for school meals, for sending kids to university for social care etc. I do not mean to take away their priviledges but I do think that they must invest in people and pay for high achieving poorer students to go to university and schools for all the places where is hard to fill vacancies. I think that the govern should increase pay for NHS staff, should increase hospital beds, machinery and social care.

[@jeannemillsom9300]

I believe that the lack of ability to see a GP has created much of the problems in hospitals. At one time when GPs actually worked a full week and unsocial hours , A and E departments were not over crowded as they are today, add to that "the nanny state" expectations of many of the public, who because it is free abuse the whole system instead of using their brains. Then we have unprecedented amounts of immigrants, both legal and illegal who willingly use the NHS, without making any contribution. Plus nurses who train at "uni" who haven't any idea of basic patient care, and would rather spend time clustered around a computer screen, ignoring patients and discussing their private lives instead of spending valuable time with their charges. These are the reasons the NHS does not work. If nurses trained on the wards as we did in the 70s the students would be counted as part of the staff, they would alleviate much of the staffing shortage, and have the discipline and ability to cope when qualified.

[@Bringon-dw8dx]

This is so out of touch. Most GP’s work normal full time, just not NHS full time (remember 37 hours as a doctor is considered ‘part time’ and there is an expectation to come in early and leave late for every shift). Student nurses DO train on the wards and they ARE counted as staff (even though they shouldn’t be). And I’m sorry but as a doctor i have to admit new nurses are significantly better then the older trained ones, and once they have gained experience will far exceed the previous generation. Their extra university training genuinely does help because they are expected to do 10x the work a nurse in the 70’s would be.

[@peachmelba1637]

@@Bringon-dw8dx GP negligence caused my sister's death... prescribed endless antibiotics over phone... turned out to be undiagnosed cancer...I have no faith in the NHS

[@colinjames7569]

As an RN. I would be happier working in construction again

[@ZaraValentine-t3t]

Yet a year later and as an experienced nurse of 4 years, I am unable to be accepted for a role in the NHS Trust because they have shut down funding for staffing so there are no jobs available, so much for the 50,000 nurses being replaced with the funding going into training. One job for all those completing their hard work of training amongst experienced nurses?? Something not quite right here. Shutting down jobs despite the rise in Covid, Flu, RSV and walking peunomia 😢

[@petertoon8080]

Appears to be a relatively well run DGH, not much room for greater efficiency. So how can a change a re-organisation of work flow improve things. Shame the bed manager doesn't know how to wear a face mask.

[@dumitrunicu9725]

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[@Lilly_Rose.]

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[@RaviKumar-pp3pr]

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[@docgillygun9531]

This looks like the average emergency department and hospital in the United States on a daily basis as well.

[@kookiebun470]

You can’treally compare it to US to be honest. This does not even look busy to me but wait come afternoon to evening. You will have 100 patients waiting in the emergency department but they have nowhere to go as the hospital is already full. In US the staff also receive 100% or even more salary than UK. ICU and normal ward staff nurses receive the same salary whereas in US ICU nurses receive a lot more.

[@kookiebun470]

NHS is free in UK, we admit anyone and everyone to the hospital. The video is just what everyday looks like in the Hospital in the summer. The reality is different. They most likely went to an area that is not busy at all.

[@docgillygun9531]

I suppose what my point was not necessarily nursing salaries. And believe me, I'm a pulmonary critical care doc in a big hospital, I am a staunch advocate for the nurses. Right now all the hospitals in my system, which is one of the largest in the country, are almost always at or past 100% capacity and we are so desperate for beds that it is not uncommon to have admitted/boarding 20+ patients in the emergency department and many get discharged home without even making it to a floor bed. And this is becoming common place with our neighboring healthcare systems as well. NO arguments that medicine is vastly different between UK and USA, and frankly there are some things I wish the USA would model after the UK. We are all just stretched to the max right now even post-COVID and we have never been given the opportunity to catch our breath, and it doesn't look like that will happen. Yet, in the USA the government and insurance companies are always wanting more and more regulations and oversight that does absolutely nothing but take time away from clinical care and does nothing to improve quality or cost saving/resource utilization. It has made it 10 times harder to get anything done.

[@SkarGig]

Seems the same as where i am in the US It's really scary as a person with MS, having to go to a hospital and risk gettint covid because we are all stuck in a hallway on strechers instead of in rooms because the rooms are all full

[@Bringon-dw8dx]

Ngl It’s weird to see a hospital with beds. They had a resus bed! The other day when I came on shift we had 12 people in resus, we have 6 resus beds.

[@karonmcgregor4753]

But what about all these doctors who get a VERY good salary from the NHS, but keep limited hours in NSH surgeries/hospitals, as they still make tons of money in private practice too?? I don't think that's right. You are either one or the other. IF you are more concerned with making money, then stick to your private practice only.

[@andywilliams7323]

Private practice in most cases only makes up a small percentage of their workload. The NHS makes up the bulk of their workload. Also, only some doctors do private practice many doctors do not do private practice. Doctors NHS wage for what they do and how hard they work, is not great and much lower than what doctors are paid in other countries. After 5-6 years at university they start on average including enhancements at about £34,000 a year, in most cases this slowly rises to £80,000 - £90,0000 over 12-15 years. Those fortunate enough to become Consultants will slowly increase to £120,000 over a further 10 years.

[@daleharlow6006]

Im sorry but I don't think it's the nhs job to organise transport home, I work in the nhs we attend for very exspensive treatment I think we can all get a taxi or ask for a lift

[@luxmibhatoolaul5013]

More nurses and paramedics are required. Health workers have to focus on that instead of More pay.

[@EIRE55]

We are in the 21st century and, instead of going forward, we're going backward. Instead of progression, regression is happening at an alarming rate. Slavery is now taking on a whole new meaning. Of course, what's happening has been carefully planned for many decades, and executed in a brutal manner. Even though the NHS has ALWAYS had enough funding (fact), it will be destroyed within the next few years.

[@novalinnhe]

While I appreciate that we got to see and hear from people inside the hospitals, I really disliked the reporter towards the end of this video as they asked a lot of leading questions and seemed to be very accusatory towards the guest. The questions also did not really follow any kind of narrative, so it was difficult to understand the main driver of the points she was making. Issues as divisive as this should really be reported on more neutrally, rather than focusing on populist/divisive talking points.

[@chocolatesugar4434]

I think big business should have more corporate social responsibility and dig their hands in their pockets and pool donations to the NHS as well. There’s 170+ billionaires in the uk today.

[@combat246]

They already fund the NHS through the taxes they pay.

[@alyshamentari437]

Can you help me online incoming website please

[@Sage.....]

So why have we ever bothered paying national insurance for ?? You either sort this mess out or get rid of it all together, if you choose to get rid I want all the national insurance back I've paid for over 20 years.

[@covid_pass_group1]

Help in buying a certificate

[@hereschica]

You would like to think that this type of thing would not happen but sadly, it does.

[@KnightmareUSA]

PM on the side Jeremy Hunt assures the switch to health insurance will be swift

[@SalhAlhalaf]

Peace be upon you. Who knows this injection that gives treatment for blood pressure? 😢😢😢

[@benwilliams11]

Sometimes I wish they would put those that are on end of life to sleep if they’re extremely ill and in pain. That way it will take the pressure off the hospitals.

[@infinitylife8004]

The main failure behind this is doctors are not taking responsibility to diagnose n treat patient. In spite it is all dependent on nurses. In this country a midwife takes full control and responsibility of pregnant women throughout till delivery. My God, a gynecologist doctor must be included in each expecting mother whether it is normal or complicated case. I lost my baby because everything was normal in my case. Was never seen or hear my request to see them once.So if you want safe delivery some complications during pregnancy is better according to uk nhs care plan. You will get better attention if you have more complications. Also hospital upgrade is that A&E is busy not to visit if it isn't emergency. For your kind information nobody will be visiting your hospital unnecessarily.There is always a reason we visit hospital and that is necessary. In a dental appointment, she said my nerve looks damaged after a month of permanent filing in a cavity as I was experiencing severe pain. So I asked them what to do. She told me like RCT is needed. So I requested to book appointment dfor RCT.To my surprise she prescribed me fluoride toothpaste and said to wait if pain will subside with that toothpaste. So my nerve will be damaged permanently which means RCT is not possible except extraction. So here is big problem, nhs do not focus on sustainable treatment but keep on trying assuring us, using alternative like use of pain killer and scheduling for next appointment. These all reason led to more people in queue for next appointment, no early full treatment causing severe problems in future. Take a good care of yourself n your family. If you are in medical field especially immigrants working in uk please work more properly, being immigrant myself I experienced most of immigrants are more irresponsible and careless.Do not sacrifice someone's life just to earn more than in your country. For innocent immigrating people fly back to your country if you want to be alive whenever you feel health care services are needed.

[@a.brekkan4965]

I am bearish on the NHS.

[@mikeheap7978]

Support your healthworkers striking for better and safer conditions for patients, staff and a fair pay for all healthcare workers.

[@strangemagic5502]

Higher pay on its own won't relieve the problems. They are already on a reasonable wage/salary. There is no political will to implement changes either.

[@burrrrrrrrrrrrrrp]

Tory Britain, you voted for it

[@strangemagic5502]

Labour Wales and SNP Scotland and they voted for it except me of course

[@jasonnorth2728]

Are our residential homes full and our hospitals unable to pass on patients

[@perfectallycromulent]

weird how if a country keeps voting for a tax-cutting rich person's party year after year, government services keep getting worse and worse. maybe don't vote tory next time, britain. nothing's gonna change if you keep voting for the same party.

[@shaziasultan-hq4wr]

Plzzz help my sister Beena Sultan she Live's in UK in Hospital but now she is missing plzzz help me

[@johnwintergreen3180]

Nhs cant cope because of open door immigration

[@chrisbrown3278]

Yesterday there was an interview with Aseem Malhotra senior cardiologist on the bbc which slipped through the censors . He spoke about the dangers of these things that some have had put into themselves at the request of church and state . The cat is crawling out of the bag .

[@Jamal-jv8yc]

English taxpayers need to further support Wales. These regions typically receive more per person than most areas of England

[@adamdennison80]

Good, doing their job as they're paid to do, you get what you're given.

[@wolves1980]

But the news never says the reason there's to many people in the country stop letting people in

[@witheredflowerr6265]

its not about the amount of people in the country because the nhs keep on getting nurses and staff from abroad instead of working with the people who already live here. there must be other schemes to encourage more medicine students and nurses onto the course as well as more pay for the staff so there isn't more staff leaving due to being underpaid.

[@rhinoboy6603]

Oh there we are, the migrant myth. Another Tory party divide and rule tactic. Fact check: The Migration Advisory Committee report on EEA migration from 2018 found ‘no evidence that migration has reduced the quality of healthcare’. Immigrants should not be blamed for the pressures in A&E and other parts of the NHS. The reasons behind these pressures - unsurprisingly - are far more complex: a mix of growing and changing population health needs, chronic workforce shortages, a decade of austerity in funding for the NHS and other public services, and many other factors. What is clear, however, is that the health and care system depends on its international staff to help fix the mess it’s in.

[@wolves1980]

@Witheredflowerr that is true but we are over populated mate fact there is to many people got to stop

[@wolves1980]

@Rhino boy is that so funny evertime I go to AE it's full of foreigners or a doctor appointment well when I can get one I'm not a Tory or Labour I'd get rid of the lot of them if I could to many people coming here illegal as well . The right numbers and the right sort like Australia point system is needed take it your labour

[@ukguy]

Exactly, all the boat migrants living in hotels have a GP that visits them and free NHS dentist but good luck if you or I need a GP appointment or need to see an NHS dentist.

[@bindyasonu5190]

Nhs using lots of agency staff and paying lots of money why can’t they give money to own staff and that’s way to encourage more regular staff to work and cover shift. Also increase cares for community care .

[@goodyan4453]

Will they be doing dance routines in the corridors like when they were stretched during the pandemic??

[@kanerichards1543]

I feel so sorry for the NHS nurses, care home workers, now we have the fire brigade and teachers striking All of these are heroes for now and the future We need these people Why on earth are we not as a nation not giving them the help support and commitment they deserve never mind need. The government needs to be thrown out and let the nation get our country back on track as its a joke and humiliation With all due respect why can you get better pay working at Iceland then being part of the NHS like myself and I was an ambulance transport driver working flat out during covid and well before covid The appeal to be a nurse / paramedic or firefighter or social care worker whether it's a home or supported living or becoming a teacher There wages should be better and more incentive instead it's work like a pig 24-7 and get nothing back but these people carry on cause they love the job

[@ThatTallGuy0]

It’s fine you can rest well in your hospital bed knowing thousands of illegal immigrants are posted up in 4 star hotels all across the country… and youre paying for it

[@bitcoincryptofreedom3652]

The woke crowd ❤️ it

[@oysteroid4030]

Hope that Rishi is among the seriously I'll.

[@ThatTallGuy0]

@@oysteroid4030 imagine going to the hospital and seeing rishi sat in the waiting room. Would never happen in a million years

[@robwhitton7399]

I think we know how bad it is, it’s no surprise , do they want reporters there simply being in the way?

[@ReggieThePug]

Yet who do you blame,?? The sick or the evil money grabbing government??

[@jasonnorth2728]

How much detriment does uncontrolled immigration both legal and illegal have on our NHS

[@einsteinbfergie4315]

Absolutely appalling ‼️‼️‼️ maybe the Queen can sale some freaken jewelry and build another hospital. I thought Canada was bad, but NHS should be ashamed

[@KeyserSolsi]

Does buckled Barclay goes private in Harley Street??

[@av7470]

of course like the rest of the tories

[@belkentens]

Hi… Has anyone mentioned ‘12 years of Tory….’ yet?… Oh good…

[@peterjohn3180]

Try getting pain killers I saw several people beg for morphine for over 4 hours in agony and some nurses are hardened to it so think nothing of it. Been that way for years.

[@peterjohn3180]

@newnewmee44 lol, thing that takes time, apparently is that it takes a doctor to sign off on it and two nurses to witness it after that?

[@peterjohn3180]

@newnewmee44 it's in place basically for stock taking purposes. Of course doctors are the profession most likely to have morphinism. It's impossible to say how much is diverted. One trick is to say that patients have been given morphine but take it themselves.

[@devanandsamlal9773]

Help me figure this out. The country recently spent millions, I said millions to put on a Charade, Parade, Everything possible for a dead lady. But can't take care of the hardworking healthcare professionals. Make it make sense. Is the dead more important than the living?

[@j.a.motteux2785]

NHS blows through that much in mere minutes. The cost of the NHS per year totally eclipses the money spent on the funeral. Roughly 10mn for funeral, NHS and social care yearly budget is ~180bn. So if we spent no money for the queen's funeral and put it into healthcare instead we could fund the NHS for a whopping... Half an hour...

[@andywilliams7323]

The Queen's funeral was a one-off cost of about £8 million. The NHS costs about £8 million each single hour, its annual cost is about £180 billion.

[@krisjustin3884]

Gaslighting the victims of bureaucratic incompetence! Age old Tory response.

[@fuckbankers]

Asking staff to be more productive is taking the p

[@Deathwish026]

i support more strikes for better healthcare and living standars with regards to pay and training to all healthcare staff

[@winstoningram99]

I support replacing the strikers with less greedy people.

[@av7470]

IT LOOKS LIKE A WAR FIELD AND THATS WITH THEM FULLY STAFFED FOR THE CAMERAS

[@unknownentity7964]

I've been in that exact a&e many times, including last October and November. They were equally staffed back then, I couldn't see any difference here that would have been 'for the cameras'. They've given the best most organised treatment I've had, vs from Worcester hospital or the Alexandra, which is where ambulances would usually send their patients vs Warwick. Warwick hospital is lucky that it's not under the same burden of patients as Worcester /redditch, which are hospitals who cover a huge number of patients compared to Warwick (in terms of density of population in the areas which send patients there)

[@winstoningram99]

Caaaaaaaps! This comment must be more important than the others. Best give it a read

[@av7470]

@@winstoningram99 It is because it is coming from me. Now bow down

[@winstoningram99]

@@av7470 lol. I will 🧎🏻‍♂️

[@NogHenson]

Another NHS crisis?? Oh no !!!! Give over .

[@888ssss]

interesting how my private care is not affected ?

[@patricia247able]

Lying bot

[@Ian-mj4pt]

Foxtrot Oscar muppet

[@motive1236]

Well yeah it’s private

[@888ssss]

@@motive1236 yes. there are no strikes because the staff are content and not led by marxist unions chiefs on bigger salaries than mine, and who also have private care..

[@888ssss]

@@Ian-mj4pt its only £46 a month. i dont fancy lining up behind half the third world for a scan ffs.

[@windsorchan3247]

What on earth the conservative government keeps on sending tankers, weapons to Ukraine indefinitely but refuse to look after the legitimate demand of the nurses for a living wages? Where is the national interest?

[@ryansweeney1661]

This is not a true reflection because they got camera there which means the evil ones act good and you don't see the neglected patients plus the mistreatment of patients also the aggressive rudely attitude they have , Make them have hidden camera then you'll see what I seen on the wards ,

[@patricia247able]

Oh put a sock in it bot.

[@ryansweeney1661]

@@patricia247able No am human you might not like my opinion which is true but don't be a silly idiot

[@Kikiconsilience]

I am a long term patient with kidney failure and chemo. Nurses and doctors were always kind to me. Always took great care of me.

[@Emma-two]

Sorry you had a bad experience and that should be dealt with but please don't paint every health care work with the same brush!

[@ryansweeney1661]

@SassySam but I still blame the NHS for nearly killing me and they do thousands of others through malpractice

[@TusharKumar-il1ec]

Had Ambulances not developed , English patients would never been able to reach hospitals?

[@jasonnorth2728]

Does illegal immagration impact the homeless numbers in this country

[@jaybee1196]

Can’t watch Freeman without thinking about how Peterson so skilfully dissected her. Lobster bisque anyone?

[@lawrencebishton9071]

yea a stretcher needed changing 🤣🤣🤣

[@jasonnorth2728]

None of us have had access to the NHS system we havr been paying into all of our lives, 6 million on waiting lists because the health service was put on hold for covid, tik toking whilst we couldnt get essential services, karma

[@Bringon-dw8dx]

It wasn’t ‘put on hold’ for covid. Essentially services were streamlined because there weren’t enough staff to cover the extra demand on top of normal services for two reasons 1) healthcare workers got covid ALOT (because they were both around covid patients and often travel to work on public transport) 2) HDU type beds requiring respiratory support had to be created overnight due to demand, these require significantly more staff per bed then a standard hospital patient would

[@ReggieThePug]

Yet the sick are to blame not the sick evil GOVERNMENT

[@alyshamentari437]

Can you help me online incoming website please

[@kenclarke769]

Nothing against anyone already here but uk is being overwhelmed truly by over immigration. Imagine this year half a million mostly indian citizens came over mostly for good . There is no chance.

[@wilmafallon8712]

Vivan G . They sacked the honest ones . The brave warriors !!

[@TheSyrianAleppo]

Clinical staff with a lanyard? not right this

[@Ian-mj4pt]

Thank the tories but still blame the workers ffs people wake up

[@misterpositive9337]

Solution is to leave the UK and find a better country to live in

[@Wishing_you_peace]

I am.not sure how a nurses pay rise would solve immediate problems. I work in healthcare and the worload is heavy, it is hard to be effective and meet the high standards I would like to. A pay rise won't make me want to.stay long term.

[@colinjames7569]

I am a registered nurse 8 years. I would be happier, painting houses. or working on a grill In kitchen or maybe construction work instead. As I have had

[@colinjames7569]

It’s called incentive. You obviously DO NOT work in healthcare. Exactly what do? Fake. Don’t overthink it.

[@strangemagic5502]

Overstretched certainly but not underpaid at all. I know

[@Emma-two]

Not underpaid?

[@strangemagic5502]

@@Emma-two exactly. Was there something else?

[@Emma-two]

@@strangemagic5502 what makes you think they're not underpaid?

[@witheredflowerr6265]

how would u know do you work in the field?? because if you don''t you have no clue they are definitely underpaid for the extensive work they do.

[@strangemagic5502]

@@Emma-two I have worked for the NHS for over 22 years and I appreciate how much we do get paid with generous sick leave and annual leave compared to the private sector. My gripe is actual NHS underfunding for the care of patients particularly the elderly. This comprises our ability to provide the correct care and attention in many other areas. All too often patients are being held back by bed blocking.

[@muzwot9603]

Barely any doctors and surgeons speaking out in support of their colleagues, tells you all you need to know about selfishness and greed.

[@anarchism1]

They are too busy working mate

[@aljack1979]

It doesn't affect the surgeons, they are consultants, top of the tree, they manage their own workload. It's the junior doctors that are ran off their feet.

[@aminahmad6859]

Baddest services in the world 😂😂😂

[@U581]

I am not british, but my wife family do. I wonder what happen with cases that cannot wait such as: heart attacks and strokes? the pacients with this problems never survive (my nan, and aunt died of brain strokes)

[@adamdodda3751]

Yes it’s terrible, here in my city Ambulances are in a looong queue and people are waiting hours to get in, and are dying in the back of ambualnces

[@U581]

@@adamdodda3751 So it is expected deads for waiting? deads that could be avoided?

[@alfonsohorcajada4399]

@@U581 not expected. It is happening already. It is very sad the UK is where it is today...

[@Kikiconsilience]

I am in terminal stage of kidney failure and we are left to die. No help available. Doctors and nurses trying their best but it’s not enough.

[@U581]

@@alfonsohorcajada4399 Looks like the IMSS (the NHS in my country) has more commitment (and the IMSS has bad reputation).

[@andyhunt8601]

Look at all that technology! Pen and paper was good enough for years! Wasting money on tech that can't treat a patient is not good spending.

[@andywilliams7323]

Pen and paper was not good enough. It made things much more time-consuming, slow and inaccurate. I remember the days when all those occupancy and capacity figures you see on the screens had to frequently be manually calculated and written down on paper. It took 1-2 people 30 minutes to do so, and the data was old and inaccurate as soon as you'd written it down. With the technology, the data is automatic, instant and always real-time accurate, without any time or effort needed by staff, freeing up the staff to do more important things.

[@AbdulRehman-kz6ut]

Sir hamari kashmore police hospital ke zarorat nahi all Pakistan police is so great pls written name in world book