Star Wars: The Last Jedi - Sibling Rivalry

The epic sequel of the epic saga continues! What did Doug and Rob think of the latest Star Wars outing? Is The Last Jedi any good? Find out now! Spoilers start at 22:44
Star Wars: The Last Jedi (also known as Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi) is a 2017 American epic space opera film written and directed by Rian Johnson. It is the second film in the Star Wars sequel trilogy, following Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015).
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[@ChannelAwesome]

So, what did you think of the newest Star Wars film?

[@bumpyroosej.r9082]

Channel Awesome Depends entirely on the person watching. Personally it's got good, it got bad. It's a sci-fi movie. That's really it.

[@multifandommaster9303]

I liked it a lot but here's the thing it made me so angry a burning fiery rage when snoke got killed and Kylo straight up said "your nothing you come from nothing" while I've discussed with tons of people who rey is and who she's related to and also who snoke was!

[@glassedmemories3373]

Man's not hot but star wars is hot tho

[@johnconnorpliskin7184]

Channel Awesome A waste of time and money.

[@multifandommaster9303]

Aspiring Creator I understand where your coming from and stuff and I liked how it went but the thing that made me angry is I spent so much time deciphering and talking and adjusting to new theory's. I really liked it but still that's what made me angry about it

[@calebkopp7636]

**watches the arguments of the fandom fighting itself on if the movie is good or bad** Yes. Let the hate flow through you.

[@ilyasbasuki3207]

Hate leads to suffering. Strong in the Dark Side, these people are.

[@charliedawson4877]

No one hates star wars like star wars fans.

[@timmaximilian9286]

Charlie Dawson maybe some trekies

[@Jetsiuc]

Rian Johnson is a Sith? XD

[@Aroreiel08]

The conflict is too strong. I feel the pull to the dark side.

[@georgeweber5333]

Prepare for the most divided comment section ever in three...two...and one!

[@joshuabell7761]

George Weber I say this in my comment. What's with all of the hate this movie is getting?

[@georgeweber5333]

Joshua Bell I think people were blinded by nostalgia and high expectations on this one. I acknowledge this movie was flawed, but I liked it, and it certainly wasn't prequel-level terrible. Also *gasp* the originals were flawed too!

[@USSAnimeNCC-]

It's the election 2016 all over again

[@joshuabell7761]

George Weber Are people just mad that it's not like Force Awakens/Empire Strikes Back? "No!!! I wanted to predict EVERYTHING that was going to happen!!! I wanted to predict who was going to live and who was going to die and forsee the conclusion of every action sequence! This movie cannot have SUSPENSE! No, no, no!!! I hate change!!! Star Wars is life!!!"

[@damien9801]

George Weber You are the second most sane person in the last 20 comments sections about TLJ I have been in lol.

[@ArgoVaughn]

Also I loved Luke and R2 scene. Hammill just slips back into young Luke and I almost cried at the nostalgia.

[@nateputerbaugh5709]

ArgoVaughn That and the other cameo are the 2 best scenes in the movie

[@MarkArandjus]

Yeah, the way he says 'Hey, watch the language' gave me a serious Empire flashback :)

[@CeltycSparrow]

I do agree that was one of the best scenes in the movie. He was definitely surprised to see R2D2 there and he asks him why he should do this and I think Artoo's answer was perfect.....and I think that scene is really what inspired him to do what he did at the end.

[@nuuuuuut]

I could never see him as young Luke. The Luke in Rian's version is so fundamentally different as a character that they're not even the same person. Mark Hamill himself even thinks this way. That's really what ruined the movie for me - it wanted to completely forget about all the growth that took place for the characters in the originals.

[@theanhluk9984]

Also, in this same scene, Luke sadly looks down then looks back up at the hologram and it's the exact same look he gave when he saw Owen and Beru' s corpses.

[@jennamacleod7880]

Shut that door!

[@noellemarchand7444]

Heeeey, I'm still waiting for that Easter special. :D

[@jakemetzgar]

Miss Criticism SLAM!

[@hysuka2]

Luke: I'm gonna burn this tree to the ground!! The Jedi needs to end!! Yoda: Do it, bitch. Luke: .... But the books... Yoda: /summons lightning at the tree/ HEEEhehehehehe.. GG, Yoda. lmao

[@godziller7136]

hysuka2 when I saw him as a puppet, I nutted.

[@blackearl7891]

Umm Rey stole the books

[@devinjedimaster9947]

I was crying during all of that scene this made the movie for me.

[@rocketcon]

hysuka2 Yoda knew Rey had taken the books. He was just laughing at Luke freaking about it. :)

[@ChillandQuill]

more like: Luke: Im going to burn this tree down the jedi need to end Yoda: ill do it for you because i need to teach you a lesson about the force being taught through experience or something Luke: no the books, even though i was just about to burn them Yoda: the books are nothing you dont need the books Rey: omg i need these books...even tho i learned everything on my own without a single bit of struggling.

[@LJ-hk4tv]

The lightspeed jump into the star destroyer will forever be my favorite moment in Star Wars ever.

[@dovahben8103]

thats pretty good, but mine will be Luke just brushing it off

[@clayjack9969]

Mine might just be when Kyle Ren cut snok in half.

[@isheetfromaswhole3657]

LJ I have not seen the movie. My favorite part will be ignoring the business aspects involved in making the movie. It seems Doug Walker(?) reviewed the movie this way.

[@LJ-hk4tv]

My least favorite moment in the whole series would have to be Leia flying in space. That was stupid as fuck.

[@Lightscribe225]

I prefer the Rey/Kylo fight with the Praetorian Guards. For one brief moment, there was nothing about deeper messages, or the Force, or convoluted plans, just lightsabers galore. The lightspeed jump I just don't get. It invalidates the Rebel fleet being trapped around Endor. If all they had to do was turn a ship into a light speed bullet, why don't they do that all the time?

[@justmustard56]

Rob, please, please, for the love of god, let doug finish his sentences.

[@Coalch13]

Jonatas Freitas I think he hates that Doug gets all the fame, drives him crazy so he talks over him to get his voice out

[@afonsolucas2219]

They're brothers! What did you expect!

[@maxmetalknight]

This is the reason I refuse to watch these videos, since it only progresses. Instead I just read comments to find out their opinion.

[@deazy6453]

Afonso Lucas it's also annoying just like CNN or FOX

[@felynecomrade]

@@Coalch13 Nah. The 2 of them talking over each other is the core of this entire series. It's literally called "Sibling Rivalry"

[@Mephzice]

Spoiler regarding burning of books.

[@Warewolfgirl1]

Mephzice I thought they were the books, but it was like less than 2 seconds so I didn't get a good look

[@GuardianOfMoon]

My friend pointed this out to me, too!! She saw it 4 times, and I've only seen it once, but I do recall seeing old books in the Falcon, I think the Porg flop around on them as they make a sharp turn.

[@finding_aether]

Yoda is still a troll

[@MrBigtank78]

Mark Hamil was phenomenal in his role as Luke Skywalker. No lie though Everytime I heard him talk I kept hearing the joker coming out lol.

[@TenguBE]

He was. Though I didn't like what they did with him in the end.

[@TheNinjaDC]

Not all the time, but when he had a bit of dark/cynical humor, you could so hear the Joker undertones.

[@axel_rodd0748]

i heard skips

[@TenguBE]

I expected a display of awesome power.... And not someone who thought of murdering his nephew in his sleep. No wonder Mark Hamill didn't like the director.

[@giftheck]

Mark Hamill is on record as saying his comments were taken the wrong way. He didn't hate the direction or the director, but he was 'surprised' by it.

[@IamXhedo]

I wrote this somewhere else, but i wanted share it here too. After the movie ended, i was... i don't know. Confused, i think. And my uncle, asked me how i felt, and i said "I don't know". Then when he was drinving me home, he laughed and said that, that's exactly how he and his father felt after watching Empire Strikes Back when it came out and i felt amazing. Because even though i don't love this movies, i feel like with time, the people who didn't go through the hype, the wait, the questions, the theories and the build up, are going to either hate or completely admire and love this movie, like we do now with Empire. Maybe that's just wishful thinking. I hope i'm right. i like this movie more, the more i think about it.

[@basquat76]

Everybody loved tfa when it came out. They don't love it anymore. Same deal here mate. First viewing it's a rollercoaster ride. Second viewing people begin to put some thoughts into it and they notice all the flaws and it's not that exciting anymore.

[@rohamcsigusz]

That's what i was thinking, maybe it will age well like a fine wine.

[@Jonny-xq5cb]

the only main issues I had with the movie was the casino, finn and rose relationship and flying leia!

[@ericspearman2998]

I didn't mind the Finn and Rose thing at all. I know some saw a "romance" there, but I didn't. At least, certainly not on Finn's part as he still has eyes for Rey. I do see hints of a Poe/Rey thing forming. However, I doubt that will go that way because since Rian Johnson so definitively subverted every expectation and fan theory people had Abrams is free to keep it up with IX. Trust me, when we finally get a preview for IX about a year out from release people will start to come back around. Just like always. I also didn't mind Leia using the Force to get herself back on the ship. It was a beautiful moment to me, especially in light of Carrie's passing and that she got the chance to do a scene like that was a bit emotional for me.

[@gillsanstype]

I really don't get the hate for the Leia scene, I mean, she's had 40 years or so to learn at least a few Force tricks, so it's really not that far fetched as everyone makes it out to be.

[@DGenHero]

So a third of the movie

[@metnem100]

Gammacat the problem is it looked stupid and she didn’t do any training but luke wanted her to be his student...she was buisy with politics etc.

[@rev1595]

Luke didn't see the good in Vader after he threatened Leia. It was on after that. In TLJ all he did was have a brief thought. If Ben hadn't woken up Luke could have dealt with him differently. In both cases Luke saw the destruction of what he loved.

[@marche800]

Luke isn't space Jesus, Luke is the Space Avatar.

[@marinerman]

Lol, and thus it comes full circle. ;)

[@oneopinion6806]

I liked that this movie drove home a point already made by both the prequels and the OT--being strong with the force doesn't make you a deity. Emperor Palpatine in OT (before being expanded upon in PT) was a supposed evil super power, only to be chucked down a hole. Yoda set up as super wise in OT and an incredibly powerful Jedi was shown in PT gets blindsided along with all the other Jedi. In this film Luke is strong, but shows that he has moment's of weakness that greatly affect those around him. And Snoke is another big bad that is so sure he's the big bad that he can't feel his apprentice setting up his demise (again just like Vader/Palpy.) Rey is clearly strong with the Force, but it doesn't make her infallible either as she keeps believing Kylo is coming back.

[@marche800]

A B Exactly just because you're strong in the force doesn't mean you aren't a person with flaws and internal conflicts. I deeply appreciate the fact that this film is willing to address that. Everyone and everything is connected to the force, so there isn't all that much that makes a Jedi or Sith or What have you that different to any other person other than their orders philosophies and ideals. It's like how the Pope is no less of a human being than you. It only seems that way because he's placed in a position of holiness and power. The Jedi are the same way.

[@maxschoen5531]

same difference

[@marche800]

Marc Schoen Not really. Jesus taught pacifism and forgiveness and of the rules and nature of his father (God) but was often ridiculed by the religious order and was eventually executed to appeased them, dying a martyr bearing the sins of the people as a means to grant them the chance to be forgiven. The avatar is a being who's job is to use their incredible powers to fight to maintain balance, who was respected and feared the world over. Those are very different roles.

[@TMmodify]

Isn't it obvious? Snoke is Roger from American Dad

[@djvoldemort1]

I thought he was the alien from Indiana Jones 4.

[@ErikBrady1776]

Oh shit, the universe's secrets has been revealed!

[@richardmagel4247]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHH!!!!

[@owiseone1]

The twist wasn't that he killed snoke, the twist was the reason why he killed snoke. Leading us to believe he was going to turn good by helping Rey.

[@gruwidge]

Robert Jones both was the twist for me

[@axel_rodd0748]

its a weak ass twist,why turn kylo good when its just ep8,these redemption arcs are usually reserved for the last film

[@DravenG96]

I still believe that it was Snoke's plan all along for Kylo to kill him in order for him to be fully cemented as a sith.

[@jacobodom8401]

who wants to bet that Snoke possesses Kylo Ren?

[@Emilightning]

Very true! I also feel like it was finally breaking that old Star Wars theme of "kill the evildoer/destroy the evil thing, and the good guys will win". It's showing us that destroying an evil doesn't make you a hero. And even after the Big Bad is destroyed, there will always be someone else to rise up and become just as bad, if not worse. (That was my interpretation, anyway.)

[@svenvangogh3867]

You don't understand critic. An overhyped character who does pretty much nothing but we all believed was cool because of his/her outfit? I'm pretty sure Phasma was meant to rhyme with Boba Fett.

[@exilestudios9546]

and just like boba her story in the books is pretty bomb

[@svenkampen1647]

Boba Fett Unique design. Unique gear. Unique ship that is barely used. Hunts heroes through galaxy. Barely talks Super popular with fans. Darth Maul Unique design. Unique gear. Unique ship that is barely used. Hunts heroes through galaxy. Barely talks. Super popular with fans. Phasma Lazy recolor of the awkward Storm Trooper design with a lahy copy of Boba Fetts cape. Is a Stormtrooper with Stormtrooper shit Talks like a lackey Considered Lame Lucas did it twice he created a cool character out of barely anything. Phasma is like a director looking at that is like I CAN DO THAT TOO! THAT IS STUPUD WHAT YOU DID! I'M COOL! I'M COOL!

[@svenvangogh3867]

Sven Kampen Oh I completely agree. I just think Phasma was MEANT to be the new Boba Fett, but they screwed it up.

[@theNEWMASKSdudexxx]

Boba Fett: Forgets he is a highly effective bounty Hunter and gets accidentally bumped into a sarlac pit like a bitch. Phasma: Fights a treacherous storm trooper amongst flaming hanger ruins, suppresses a rebel that is firing on her by drawing her sidearm and returning fire, takes a huge blow to the side of the face before falling into a flaming pit. Seems like a fair comparison

[@chapacoka]

From what I've read, Phasma was originally never intended to be in the final cut of the new trilogy but they liked her design so much that they left her in. As a result she gets very little to do. Doesn't explain why she's still useless in this one.

[@isobelduncan]

The part where she asks to see her parents but only sees herself, I interpreted it as her realising that they were dead and not really that important in the grand scheme of things.

[@ericspearman2998]

Rey's arc in this film is finally learning that her life and choices are not to be defined by her parentage. It's an awesome message. It's not where you come from, it's what you do.

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

Pretty much. I liked they did something different from once. But Snoke, Finn's "quest", general hux as a comic relieve, super leia... damn, there's so much dumb shit in this movie. Kylo, Rey and Luke saved this movie.

[@MsBayley]

@@RRRRRRRRR33 honestly rewatching it recently. Snoke dying is good. Finns quest is not that bad as originally thought.

[@roguestar8]

"Jar Jar is the key to all of this" Your Yoda impressions were so spot on!

[@crazedvegetable]

You can never satisfy everyone when it comes to star wars. Especially with the internet age where you can share you own theories that got people excited only to have it not come true. Is this movie perfect? Not at all, but I think this is the type of movie where people will start to really like it as time goes on.

[@avxx0035]

chaoszieg oh stfu

[@marnieandme84]

I am the only Star Wars fan , I’m no die hard I’m only thirty and was introduced to the series much latter than a lot of the hardcore fans , but I am a fan and I actually liked the movie quite a bit , is it just me 🤔😂

[@marnieandme84]

You know what I kept thinking watching this movie it’s the sort of thing Chris Nolan would have done had he made a Star Wars movie there is almost a cheeky kind of Nolanesque subversiveness to it .

[@Aroreiel08]

The reverse of TFA where the majority loved it and then began crapping all over it a little while later.

[@christophervaldez8421]

crazedvegetable sort of like empire strikes back

[@emiliohidalgo5927]

Leia in space: "I'M MARY POPPINS, Y'ALL!!!"

[@elizabethashley42]

Emilio Hidalgo TOO SOON

[@tanishq3039]

Hey sucker that was Force Pull.

[@sideshowmo653]

People are happy to accent Yoda lifting an X wing out of a swamp, but they lose their shit over a simple force pull? I don't get it. Just because they don't show you Leia learning to control her force abilities doesn't mean it didn't happen. A powerful ally, the force is.

[@ArthurVega1992]

Lmao

[@nixiscartwright5521]

Sideshow Mo would have been better if disney had used the source material from the Star Wars Extended Universe where Leia was already trained in the Force to the level of Jedi Master, but those aren't canon anymore.... 😒

[@anonymous-dirigible]

Snoke is Jar Jar Binks after he became a Sith Lord, obviously. JAR JAR IS THE KEY, YOU GUYS.

[@leomilmet854]

Jean Phillips-Weiner YES! I only wish that were the case. Maybe they'll reveal it in 9 during a flashback or something.

[@leomilmet854]

Lord Shiver Cmon snoke. Why you wanna do that we're just 2 random people on this annoying little planet way outside of your galaxy that happened to guess your secret. Besides, there's no argument for you and Jar Jar not looking alike if you cut off his ears and immediately cauterize the wounds with a lightsaber or something

[@fettbub9289]

more backstory than given in the films

[@fucktardmst3kfan144]

Jean Phillips-Weiner I think Snoke is Darth Plageus. (Did I spell that right?)

[@DivinePearl]

That's why Snoke died so easily.

[@CarlosCMTF]

I think Luke didn't die because of the force projection. He was just at peace and chose to be one with the force, like Ben Kenobi.

[@andscifi]

I thought the same thing. He even quoted part of the strike me down line from that scene.

[@Invirulent]

I also prefer to live in a fantasy world, we should be buddies.

[@Lors_101]

Rey even said that at the end, that he didn't die or die from anguish, he just peacefully left

[@Invirulent]

Clayton Smith yeah man that is totally like Luke to find out that his sister and everybody else is on the brink of death and then just peacefully leave.

[@Lors_101]

He made sure they got out safely and then left, plus he passed on what he could to Rey, there's not a whole lot else he could do, it's not like he'd be able to fool the Kylo Ren with his imagery trick again and it's not like he would be able to stand up to Kylo and he gave everything he had already

[@strongarm852]

S p o i l e r By the way, did you guys notice that Rey stole the books before she left. They're on the Falcon, you can see them in the one of the lower shelfs when they're trying to find a bandage for Rose when she's on the Falcon at the end.

[@jonathansefcik473]

Clint Casey Yes

[@scoutymcscoutface2957]

Haha, I didn’t know. Cool!

[@artloveranimation]

Clint Casey 🤯🤯🤯

[@ewok0075]

SPOILER TOO . . . . . . . . . Yoda is a fucking troll when he tells luke "there is nothing in there the girl doesn't already have". Literally. She has the books.

[@rohamcsigusz]

So thats what i saw! I wasnt sure if those were the jedi books because i didnt see Rey or anyone stealing them and Luke was so sure that the books were in the wooden cave.

[@thetattooedyoshi]

I'm glad the porgs didn't really disrupt the plot like at all. They were there to sell toys without getting in the way of the good shit.

[@marquis911]

thetattooedyoshi Rumor is they just CG’ed puffins that lived on the island that were impossible to get rid of. Just a happy accident.

[@josephineparsons78]

They were just kinda there and had some funny moments as with chewies scene and plus they were just damn cute

[@dangerwarg9682]

Soon as I heard about Rey's parents, I was like "YES!" "YES! NONE OF THIS TRITE LIKE FATHER LIKE DAUGHTER BULLSHIT!!!"

[@dungeonsandducky8817]

I will be honest, I was really holding out hope that it was going to be someone like Wedge or Dash Rendar's daughter, someone we could explain as wanting to hide their child while they did dangerous and scary things but not actually a jedi or anything. Someone you could explain as having died in the war, you know?

[@mattiecastillo2683]

I think the whole super Leia thing was intended to be set up for a version of Episode IX we'll never get. My gut feeling is that we essentially have the same cut we would have gotten if Carrie Fisher was still with us, both to avoid having to do major reshoots and to keep as much of her final performance as humanly possible. It seems clear to me that an idea for this trilogy was that each of the three OT heroes would serve as mentor to Rey and challenge to Ben and when they were planning it the order made sense. You do Han first because Ford would only come back if he got to do a death scene and Ford is the oldest. Luke would be second due to the set up of TFA, and then the final installment would have Leia in the featured role. Which tragically means that even if Episode IX is exceptional, we'll always be left wondering what could have been.

[@mattiecastillo2683]

That doesn't fit with the timeline. Principal photography rapped in July of 2016, months before she died and there were no major reshoots. It was to get her out of the film for a while, but the production history suggests that was it something that was planned out long before her death. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say it would be part of her being Rey's primary mentor for episode IX. Possibly as someone who was on the side of the light, but had found her own way in the force.

[@susanalopez5052]

I thought the exact same thing, while the scene was silly, we finally got to see leia tapping into the force and so if carrie were still alive, we would have gotten an episode IX with leia leading the last remaining bit of the rebellion, and rey as the last jedi. I feel like they should have done mayor reshoots you know, because by not altering episode VIII, they basicaly screwed themselves over without a leia

[@cognitivedissonance8406]

bigevilworldwide1 You're a piece of shit. Enjoy being a piece of shit!

[@eddielaster99]

I hope you and AngryJoe do something similar to your Man of Steel review when you get around to reviewing this film given how decisive people have been it would be nice to have someone who liked it and someone who didn't like it review it together.

[@GermanLeftist]

He's doing a clip-free review with Chris Stuckman and Brad Jones.

[@eddielaster99]

Where did I say I liked the Last Jedi in my original comment? In his review for Man of Steal Doug talked about why he didn't like the film and he brought AngryJoe in to talk about the good things about it. Given that Doug seemed to like the TLJ and Joe hated it I thought it would be interesting to see them do another review about a movie they didn't share the same opinion of. Personally I didn't like the TLJ, it and TPM are tied for worst star wars movies for me.

[@GermanLeftist]

After watchng both movies more than once by now, I'll say this: The Last Jedi is definitely miles ahead of Man of Steel in terms of quality.

[@fettbub9289]

yeees

[@Zarastro54]

RLM said it best about SW fans. "I want change and surprises, but only the surprises I expect."

[@Invirulent]

He should have said "I want a cohesive plot, a sequel to pick up the story of the film before it, and luke not to consider murdering his best friend's son in his sleep"

[@TsunTzu]

They also called this film the "cinematic equivalent of Homer Simpson's make-up shotgun." But hey. Let's just stick to quotes that bolster our own arguments.

[@ridan4094]

How the hell did you manage to review this movie without talking about Rey and Ben's connection?!

[@nukenugget]

really? As I know the Nostalgia Critic and how he annihalted movies like ghostbusters (2016) and jurassic world for not living up to the franchise. this is beyond tame. I mean christmas came early for Ryan Johnson for not getting his rectum widened like those movies did. GOOD GOD

[@halflifeger4179]

It was a wonderful movie, absolutely great. The first Star Wars movie where I legitimately didn't know what was going to happen and how it was going to end.

[@MajaBiana]

HalfLife(Ger) This! I felt really uncertain in many instances and even when I guessed what the result was going to be in this or that case, I was often surprised by how they got there. For example, Finn probably wasn't going to die (that would be rushed and quite gruesome), but how he would avoid it, I couldn't guess. And the movie is *so* beautiful visually!

[@jackschwartz9419]

Same. Whatever people's problems were, they can't say it was false advertising "this is NOT going to go the way you think it will!"

[@lillones]

The problem was it was so bad i that i didnt really care where the movie was going

[@barcarolleenjoyer]

HalfLife(Ger) I really wished they hadn't done the whole horse-racing thing though.

[@silverfangmoonhunter]

Eugene Lau Yeah.... Thinking back on it... That was kind of the worst part of the movie. It wasn't explicitly bad imo it just felt a little bit like the Wrathtaur scene from The Force Awakens but longer. A part of me feels like since Carrie Fischer died they cut some of their footage from this movie to use it in Episode 9 and then filled the empty space with the casino planet scene.

[@zakiemon]

The sequel trilogy is going to be like the Three Little Bears. Episode 7 : This one's too similar. Episode 8: This one's too different. Episode 9: This one's just right!

[@afonsolucas2219]

I wish every one of them was JUUUUST right.

[@edadankmemes]

Nobody's perfect. Which coincidentally was what The Last Jedi stated.

[@fettbub9289]

Last Jedi isnt different though, it is a showcase of scenes from previous star wars movies with characters replaced, spliced in randomly

[@widchaponjearaphunt5452]

7: OK 8: Shit 9: Don't care

[@joshuawong4801]

It's like the balance in the force

[@vincentsantangelo3920]

luke according to this video- "ha YEET" **flings self off island**

[@doccampbell2006]

Spoiler in this comment Did you notice that Ray stole the books and put them in the Falcon. Yoda didn't destroy the tree to destroy the books. He did it to stop Luke from discovering Ray stole the books.

[@diccchocolate416]

Ian Campbell huh

[@tylerschoon237]

I noticed that but I didn't connect it to that being why Yoda burned it down. Good call. Interesting.

[@blackearl7891]

Ian Campbell shi, I didn't notice that.

[@jackkuefler1168]

Another interesting tidbit: during the 'battle' between Luke and Ben, Luke never created any red salt while Ben produced some.

[@MDWolfe-ks5fu]

Wait what? I think I better go and see it again, if I can.

[@Groypette]

I SAW YODA AND I CLAPPED

[@freddyrichards878]

Sebas Peimbert I giggled during the entire scene

[@sirahfalconet]

its funny because rlm fans seem to hate channel awesome

[@PapillionPictures]

IT BROKE NEW GROUND!

[@joshthecritique]

The theater I was in did too

[@mainstreetsaint36]

Yoda owned every second he was on-screen. It beautiful, but his regards to classic books is sort scary.

[@rdam81]

I loved Kylo Ren so much in this

[@Invirulent]

I too, love whiny shirtless men who kill other people right in front of me. You, me, and Rey should form a club.

[@nisahurbina4553]

His characterization was beautiful! He's a lost kid that was raised by a constantly working mother, an absentee father, and an uncle that (to him) tried to merc him, surrounded by people that saw him for his power and pedigree. He went to Snoke, who attempted to beat any humanity out of him and use him for his power. I'm 100% sure if there was a better force user than Kylo, he'd be a smear on the floor of the throne room. He can't precisely use the rage he has in the razor- sharp way of a Sith, but he's too far gone to be a Jedi, and he's chasing the overhyped ghost of his Grandfather to try and find some guidance. He's trying to distract from what must be pretty abject loneliness by hunting for power. Then he finds a nobody on some god forsaken backwater who can sympathise with how lonely and lost he feels, and he attempts to get her by his side, to have something he can connect to on that deep emotional level. When he killed Snoke, he ASKED her to join him. Not demanded, not like Vader to Luke. That "please" at the end, with the very well acted yearning and fear and want, shows just how... soft? he is. And that final literal door closing in his face (SHOULD BE) the end of that olive branch. The last bridge burned. He's stuck as Kylo Ren, Supreme Leader. He can't leave- the First Order would kill him as a traitor, and the Resistance would kill him as a murderer. He's built himself a very sturdy cage.

[@rdam81]

Probably the most intriguing character I've seen in a film in a long time. Definitely now in my top favorite Star Wars characters

[@declanoreilly891]

He’s such a great character

[@Paul91-]

rdam81 I loved him way more in this than I did in TFA. I am glad this trilogy is continuing to expand on it's best new character.

[@tylerclayborn1977]

I really like the movie. Had its problems, but there was many great moments and I enjoyed it All the way through. Favorite character of this trilogy is by far Kylo Ren. Adam Driver gave a great performance. Most of the characters did great.

[@rotary_turbo99]

With Kylo Ren now in power. I would love to see like...a wild card sithlord. Someone who is unstable and is hell-bent on wiping out everything in his way. I mean, have we ever really seen a wild-card sithlord?

[@teejaykaye4357]

Tyler Clayborn same. Honestly I loved it. But then again I like or love basically everything star wars related. I might be a bit biased.

[@titaniumtomato7247]

Yeah... and he's ripped

[@petplatypus]

+The Potato Of The Universe Darth Maul in Rebels is a wildcard sith. Yeah he lives if you didn't know.

[@michaelford8017]

To: petplatypus _______________ I think you should get caught up on that series, just saying.

[@li-limandragon9287]

The moment the dust cleared after the onslaught, and Luke just brushed the dust off his clothes unharmed like a Super Saiyan... *I went nuts*

[@greenquartz]

One theory I heard about the dice made a lot of sense to me. They suspected that Leah understood what Luke was doing, and she left and kept the dice going for Kylo to find. To remind him if where he came from.

[@ianplocki120]

Does anyone else think Snoke looks like a semi-deformed embryo? :P Also regarding his character and backstory; I think he's kinda like Bill, as in we're never going to learn who he is or where he came from but he'll always show up when least expected.

[@RRRRRRRRR33]

Bill was cool, Snoke is just another CGi monster. I always knew it, this concept of digital monsters as the big villain is something so fucking stupid. Remember the Hobbit? That was the first sign, that white orc who kills the main dwarf.. It's so bland and forgettable, I don't remember their names, lol They will release extra material like books and comics to tell Snoke backstory, it's all about the money. I honestly don't care, CGi monsters should be instinct from this art. They can be minor characters or something similar, not the major villain/hero of a live action movie, we don't have the tech yet.

[@scifimom42]

I liked The Last Jedi better when it was the Battlestar Galactica episode “33”

[@MagnusSkiptonLLC]

Holy crap, I never thought of that but you're right!

[@MythicSuns]

honestly one of my favourite scenes from that movie was just Luke throwing the lightsaber off the cliff after Rey just spent all of 2 years passing it on to him

[@shawnsicle]

Ben Knight you know that's going to become a meme

[@MythicSuns]

ShawnToons everything on the internet is a meme the second it exists. I'm amazed I'm not one yet.

[@bronsonferrigno2453]

My audience legit died after that. XD

[@dawsonbrannan9977]

I heard several nervous laughs from my screening. That was the weirdest but funniest way of saying "fuck you" to the end of TFA.

[@cognitivedissonance8406]

AndyColton Only if you are a pretentious fanboy who doesn't give a damn about character. It makes perfect sense that Luke would react that way, and that it would be so difficult to convince him.

[@johndamenillusionist4342]

Yoda: So sure that Snoke is dead are you?...foolish you two may be. Underestimate the power of the dark side you must not.

[@johndamenillusionist4342]

ProtoCoaxke Yoda: Return he will. See in time, you shall.

[@Arander92]

Yes, because good storytelling is all about plot twists right?

[@leivasacade]

I really liked it, but the minute the movie ended i just KNEW a lot of people was gonna hate it. My gf and a couple friends came out as if the had watched a different movie each. Honestly? It´s great, but in a different sense from TFA. This movie is like a piece that doesn´t work quite well separeted from the rest; i feel like the next episode should be years apart from this one, and yet it would have everything this movie needed to achieve perfection. Remember that they are setting up a new trilogy, so it makes sense that they "let old things die" in this one. Hell, Yoda pretty much said it himself, remember that whole line about being time for the jedi to end and "we are what they grow beyond"? He was talking to Luke but also to the OG fans, because we grew up with this people but now is time to let them go (my favorite scene next to Luke pulling that Professor X move at the end, so fucking badass) If you hated it, don´t feel bad or angry at the people who doesn´t. Return of the Jedi was boring as hell the first time i watched it, for years i only remembered the first act, and half of the third. And yet, the OG trilogy is not the same without it; same with the prequels, we all despise most of that piece of shit, but wasn´t it worth to get to the end and see Anakin killing some younglings (and that guy who says he´s The Senate, pretty neat)? Just like Doug said, my biggest fear was that the tried to imitate Empire, bc that would mean that they do no understand the point of a "new" trilogy. Sure there where a lot of things about the movie that where unnecessary, like the whole casino plot, Benicio del Toro and the Mary Poppins scene with Leia. But search your feelings, and wonder: How many years did it take for people to begin to appreciate this movies as the masterpiece they are? Was it right away, or did they had to grow on them?

[@edadankmemes]

Episode IX has no choice but to take place after a several year time skip. Especially since there needs to be an explanation for Leia's absence.

[@ZeroKitsune]

Or y'know, people might actually have different opinions from yours. Resorting to insulting everyone who disagrees with you says a lot more about you and your desperate need for validation than it does about anyone you're arguing with.

[@lmisa64film]

I don't see why people are arguing about this so much. Yea, the movie has flaws and some plot holes but making a petition to take it out of canon is going too far. A lot of people back when Empire Strikes Back came out didn't like it and now look at it, one of the most loved Star Wars movies.

[@chapacoka]

Well, it's a lot like how people get really passionate about sports to the point of causing riots and such. There's really no logic beyond this except that it is something people really love and are passionate about because of what it means to them and the impact it has had on their lives. And that passion and love can sometimes cause people to make some odd choices.

[@lmisa64film]

@Jozef Zadel Like a fine wine

[@marctim1000]

Lightspeed - destroyer - explotion... Best scene ever.

[@sentinelplayztm922]

l marcteam l FUCK YES IT WAS

[@brandonthompson8640]

that was so cool!

[@calebjones3636]

It was awesome to see it in action, been curious about what it looked like ever since the original battlefront II when in a space battle in story mode, the idea was a rebel cruiser was trying to do that to your star destroyer

[@oneslickhero4276]

i can not wait to have that as my screen saver

[@scorphoseninja9643]

makes you really think, why does everyone not use suicide light speeders?

[@MisterX867]

Let's be honest though, the SW fanbase is NEVER satisfied with ANYTHING

[@MatthewPaul92]

That’s most fan bases though. I mean look at the Doctor Who fan base. They’re still not over Jodie Whitaker

[@blakeb106]

I love Star Wars (and I don’t just mean a casual fan) and I LOVE the new movies.

[@SamuraiBre]

Yup

[@dawsonbrannan9977]

They're slowly morphing into the Sonic fanbase. (Minus the incessant fetish art, that is.)

[@JuanJose-bc2gs]

Who cares if the Doctor is a woman. I just see the Doctor.

[@dangerwarg9682]

It'll be the coolest and funniest thing if Captain Phasma comes back.

[@seraby7151]

It wont be cool, but it'll definitely be funny.

[@sightseeing7993]

RangaRiis Rian Johnson is on record saying she is the Kenny of this trilogy

[@Arthus850]

I hope she comes back, and we see a massive burn mark on her face in the area where her helmet was broken.

[@MrOnomatopoiea]

@Sightseeing: OMG, Finn killed Phasma!!!

[@dangerwarg9682]

And?

[@fatalshot0093]

I just saw the movie. Here's what I think. Overall, it was great! It was totally worth seeing in theaters and I recommend everyone to see it, fan or not a fan. However, It made me want to see more. I wanted to see Luke actually fight. I was excited when he drew his lightsaber (what happened to his green one?). But all we got was him dodging Kylo's attacks and him acting like all Old Ben Kenobi saying, "If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine" , that kind of deal. And that's it. I wanted to see a lightsaber duel with Kylo and Rey again. All we got was just a Force tug of war contest. Like everyone, I wanted to know Snoke's origins. Right now, it seems like we won't unless we get "Snoke: A Star Wars Story". People who made theories about Rey pretty much lost the bet the day they saw the movie. About this casino sidequest? It was pointless at the end of it all, but it was still nice to see. It's not the worst sidequest. Leia's "death scene" is pretty much the only time we'll ever see her legitimately use the Force (despite the weird pose). I wonder how they'll finish the trilogy without Carrie. I actually did feel an "Empire Strikes Back" kind of vibe, but it still good. I also felt a "Return of the Jedi" kind of vibe in the mix. Like I said, I still enjoyed it and I'm really excited to see what Episode 9 has in store.

[@starfalchion4404]

fatalshot009 His green lightsaber was destroyed when Ben Solo/Kylo Ren destroyed the Jedi Temple.

[@josephineparsons78]

I actually liked the battle with them and personally all the coregraphy for all the duels in the movie I think you get a sense that it's more raw more emotional and practical than others and I kinda like how luke was essentially just manipulating his anger which is his biggest weakness to draw out the fight as long as possible which was his intention in the first place

[@josephineparsons78]

now heres the thing that would create allot more backlash honestly basically because it would have been a shot for shot remake of that scene from a new hope which the force awakens was levied at being a 'clone' of personally i think this is better its different enough so that its its own specific thing. to be honest would you like just another orginal trilogy? or something that tells it own story but still is distinctly star wars? cause honestly i think thats what this new trilogy feels like and personally im really glad that they took the story in a new way in this one to the point where i couldn't tell you whats gonna happen in the last film, yeah has its problems but i respect the fact that they did try to be different but not too much so

[@lunasperidot8760]

Lies, I did not want to know about Snoak's origin I thought Snoak was boring as shit and literally cheered when Kylo Killed him

[@NEON-XMV]

Star Wars fan boys: TFA: IS TOO SIMILAR! TLJ: IS TOO DIFFERENT! ... what... the actual.... fuck

[@AceOfClubsHUN]

Different? It's Episode 5 and 6 blended in a mixer.

[@halloweenfriday]

Epic: Music Videos I can’t tell which fanbase is worse; Star Wars, Steven Universe or DCEU.

[@SuperSymbiote1]

Epic: Music Videos It’s not that it’s different. It’s that it makes no f ing sense.

[@isheetfromaswhole3657]

Epic: Music Videos When SW fans talk, they cannot articulate how business affects movie making decisions. So.............,

[@Lightscribe225]

As Luke said in the movie: "Wow, everything you said is wrong."

[@AlmostProfessional1995]

I loved mark's performance and there were many things in this film I enjoyed but it was a lot to take in. Walking out of the theater a half hour ago...you guys are exactly who I needed to listen to as I gather my thoughts ❤❤ love sibling rivalry

[@joshuabonnell8385]

*KEEP FIRING!* Luke emerges from the cloud of smoke, *brushes it off*

[@bladenight23]

I completely agree with their complaint with the purple haired rebel leader (I can't remember her name and don't care to). She was stupid. Why didn't she share the transport plan with the rest of the ship? Her not telling the plan caused too much conflict in the rest of the film.

[@pk13910]

the Rotten Tomato audience score is going down faster than Snoke's backstory.

[@TheSrawperd]

HEYOOO!

[@SolarArmadillo]

Oh no, all the way from a 98% to a 93%. Shocker

[@pk13910]

Luke Jolly Audience score, not critic score. Derp.

[@SolarArmadillo]

pk13910 oh no, the butt hurt fanboys that are mad that their Snoke theory wasn't right are coming after the movie.

[@TheSrawperd]

They're mad because he had no characterization. Seriously, what is one thing we learned about Snoke as a character?

[@theplasmapro8343]

They claim to have light speed, but in the movie they said “only 4 parsecs left” And it didn’t take them 13.04 years to get to their destination

[@McSuperfly101]

It was nice to watch a Star Wars movie where for the first time, probably since Empire Strikes Back, I genuinely didn't know what was going to happen.

[@andrewcarmichael2371]

Am I the only one who wanted Lando to be in it? And Luke to use his Green lightsaber instead of the blue one? And Obi Wan to appear before Yoda went total god on the force tree?

[@sightseeing7993]

Luke didn't actually use the blue one. Just an iconic thing really. And a nod to the audience. They wanted Obi Wan but Alec Guinness is dead.

[@JavierPerez-cx4jw]

Andrew Carmichael Unfortunately Alec Guinness is dead, and if you bring in Ewan Mcgregor people will get mad because of the whole Special Edition controversy

[@andrewcarmichael2371]

Javier Perez they could have just used a clip of him with Luke walking through him. Or Use Anakin (younger) with Luke ignoring him.

[@ackbarfan5556]

No mention of everybody's favorite fish headed admiral getting killed?

[@ilyasbasuki3207]

RIP Admiral Ackbar. Now who's going to warn the Resistance of any traps?

[@TheHomiErik]

ackbarfan5556 he will be missed

[@thegodofalldragons]

Here lies Admiral Ackbar, killed by a trap.

[@ThatBillmanGuy]

Yeah, Admiral Raddus was badass! ...oh, you meant Ackbar. I found it fitting he died retreating. Finally got his wish, and it didn’t work out for him.

[@nateputerbaugh5709]

The fact Ackbar didn't get the uber badass blow up the ship moment sucks. That should have been his scene

[@AndrusPr8]

I remember when Kylo said to Rey to forget about the rebels, the first order, the jedi and the sith and to just run away from that I thought like "That sounds really interesting, the way balance would be achieved is by a Jedi and Sith learning from each other." But then Kylo went all "Join me and we both will rule the galaxy together" and though "Or maybe not, shame. But keep going".

[@DocStrange30]

Maybe you guys should take turns speaking...

[@kearndawg1278]

Uh oh, they liked it... rip this comments section.

[@HolsovanUltimate]

Yeah...I know... siiiiiiiiiigh......the star wars fanbase is filled with a bunch of manchildren that expects way too much.

[@gamermanx3096]

How sad some people can be.

[@theNEWMASKSdudexxx]

Like Luke did with the old Jedi books, the manchildren need to be burned away and forgotten.

[@gamermanx3096]

theNEWMASKSdudexxx savage, but true.

[@HolsovanUltimate]

SpeedyEric1+ I love star wars too, which is why it hurts to see so many people boycott this movie. I can understand Force Awakens, I can understand the complaints there, with that I can see the problem. With this...I don't. People say its disrespectful, yet honors the characters to the highest degree ESPECIALLY Carrie Fisher who had just passed, she was badass in this film. Luke's final moment was so epic, and his character had improved a ton. (Don't get why people say his character got ruined cause he had little to no personality before....but you know that was to let the audience put themselves in the role. Now that he isn't the focus anymore, he needed this. )

[@deanreaver3268]

I think its cool that Kylo killed is master and took over. That's something Anikin said he would do but never pulled through with it. Only when he was Darth Vader and watching his child being tortured to death right in front of hem did he actually do it.

[@kfinn3068]

Michael Pollard Great point. Vader didn't want his child kid. But how about Ren's motivation? It feels more selfish, than it was for saving Rey.

[@GoDLiKeKakashi]

Vader didn't do it because he couldn't do it. He is in a mechanical suit that is the only thing keeping him alive and Sidious uses force lightning. Not a great combo.

[@seraby7151]

It was about destroying the old ways. Snoke was a Sith wannabe and he realized the the jedi and the sith way are bullshit. He was power hungry at first but he realized he didn't really gained anything from killing his father (so there was really no reason to kill his mother as well) PS: ok yeah, it was for selfish reason but he has a valid point and coincides Luke's view.

[@GoDLiKeKakashi]

Snoke was the Sith wannabe? SNOKE? ... Kylo literally wears a mask to pretend he's a Sith Lord.

[@seraby7151]

Well... yeah! They were all trying to be Darth Sidious and Darth Vader (the rule of two became extinct with their deaths).

[@SynergyExplorer12]

Knights of Ren? Who did Kylo stop one of the knights from killing from the flashback in The Force Awakens?

[@Invirulent]

The Force Awakens was a standalone film now because Rian Johnson is here and it's time to reboot star wars in the middle film of a trilogy, apparently.

[@exilestudios9546]

the knights of ren had one mention in tfa they arent important they only exist to establish ren as a leader thats it they are a plot device any more bs critisisms that can be shot down with basic logic hell my gf's 8 year old figured that out

[@Invirulent]

Exile Studios Everyone is sick of hearing people try to fill in the plot holes, guy. Shut up and go do something possible with your time, noone can redeem this shit movie.

[@joshstevens76]

I’m embarrassed to admit this, but I actually fell asleep while watching this in the theater. My wife had to hit me in the ribs after I started snoring, and has been embarrassing me ever since. Not because this was a boring movie, because I actually really enjoyed it, but because I worked a 16 hour shift before going to see you! Still I was embarrassed and I feel compelled to share this with you all 🤪🖕

[@MyssBlewm]

Mike Derby I fell asleep opening night for Inglourious Basterds because I was up for 24+ hours and thought I wouldn't fall asleep because I was so excited to see it. I was so embarrassed I didn't tell anyone I missed about 30 minutes of the movie for almost a year.

[@Invirulent]

Trust me, the more of it you missed the better.

[@bloomingteratoma]

TheLostPages Oh wow another person circle jerking hate on Star Wars. How edgy.

[@Neb-xh8rm]

Mike Derby cool story bro lol

[@willcrabbe1947]

Mike Derby middle of the film was really boring tbh, almost fell asleep myself

[@Belegur13]

Loved this movie but I did think the casino sequences slowed it down. Didn't stop my enjoyment but they certainly dipped. Both agree and disagree with some of the other minor nitpicks but I found this movie overall fantastic. Will be seeing it again, for sure. **SPOILER ALERT** We'll see if/how they address Snoke in final film as I also want to know more about him. And if there is more to Rey's parentage, I'll be interested but I'm also fine with her being a prodigy.

[@Odyssey_Central]

Wait... did it ever say I’ve got a bad feeling about this?

[@artloveranimation]

Odyssey Central The closest I found, was when C3-PO says to Po, “I’m almost afraid to ask.” And Po replies, “Good instincts. Go with that.” etc.

[@zach_is_wach]

Odyssey Central according to one of the people that made the movie, B.B.-8 said it in his beeping language

[@tigerfanfrv]

I don't think that counts in my book, because we cannot understand him

[@thejanusproject32]

Agreed. I never picked up on that at all.

[@eugenesesmaiii3278]

Was there a Wilhelm scream?? I watched it twice and never heard it ):

[@smilesthroughfandoms5595]

Favorite part of the whole movie: When Luke dusted his shoulder off after Kylo Ren orders him to be shot at then realizing Luke was just a projection. Like, seriously, Luke, could you troll him even more?

[@josephineparsons78]

Smiles Through Fandoms I laughed when that happened not even knowing he was a projection I was just like hes a Jedi master he doesn't give no craps

[@caetlynx]

Honestly one of the best Star Wars movies I've seen. It made me thing, hope, and theorize. Also I'm so happy that a Reylo force bond is actually a thing. Of course there were problems, but overall a great movie. So happy to see you not tearing it apart like EVERY OTHER KZbinR.

[@MashAttack]

One of my favorite scenes is the "super-Leia" moment. It payed off the "there is another" line from Yoda, and showing that she can use the force. It was epic.

[@RoyalMudcrab]

MashUpArt Thought it *looked* silly. Unlike other people I loved that it happened. But the cinematography was a little awkward.

[@amandaarmstrong7063]

I enjoyed it too.

[@kfinn3068]

"That boy was our last hope." GENERAL Organa, leader of the resistance, who was always canon force sensitive. In THE scene though, I thought she was just astral projection or something, like yoda

[@IndyFilmProductions]

I have no clue why so many people hate this movie with a seemingly burning passion. I really liked it.

[@IndyFilmProductions]

I personally didn't find it that disappointing, there were some problems but overall it was a good movie, and a good Star Wars movie

[@FirelordJade]

Plot holes, inconsistencies and completly dropped plots from the Force Awakens. The side quest feeling of the casino setting.

[@Invirulent]

In the force awakens Luke has gone to a planet to find the Last Jedi Temple to try and find a way to stop kylo Ren and the return of the dark side through the Knights of Ren. He is brave, and has not given up. He leaves a trail so he can be found if hes needed. The last jedi: Luke went to an island to die, there is no Knights of Ren, he didn't want to be found, he's a coward who tried to kill a sleeping man, he dies from exhaustion.

[@HypeVoiceActing]

(Reads the comments) So this is basically a reversal of the critic-comment opinions for It or Beauty and the Beast 2017

[@DarthAndrew520]

Sooo lemme get this str8. We have Luke Sykwalker: A character who went on a suicide mission to try and turn the 2nd most evil person in the galaxy back to the light. Because he saw good in him and he was FAMILY. and in this film its explained that because he saw a hint of evil in his NEPHEW, he has to die? Even coming to that decision for a brief second feels like a betrayal of Lukes character.

[@samuelstensgaard4828]

So thinking about doing something evil for a second before going back on it and feeling ashamed is still a betrayal of his character? You know Luke is human right? That’s a big aspect of the movie itself, that people like him shouldn’t be made into legends.

[@DarthAndrew520]

Vader Minion I'm not saying he's perfect here. But the idea of even thinking for a second to kill his nephew after he spent all of ep6 trying to save his dad makes no sense to me. And it's not like Ben was even evil at this point.

[@Warewolfgirl1]

DarthAndrew520 I think it made him more human. Flawed.

[@345635356]

Luke also burdened himself with the way of the Jedi, and cutting down the dark side wherever you see it is exactly what the jedi would do. Also, Luke has always been on the razors edge with the dark side, and he was experiancing intense fear in that moment, so no suprises there.

[@mattwagnermovies6308]

HOW does that betray his character It just doesn’t All the disappointment is based on stupid fan expectations that didn’t get their way

[@Ryse19]

Yeah, it's weird that Ben just so happened to wake up to see Luke standing over him with his lightsaber drawn. You know, that weapon that creates no unnatural light and is completely silent.

[@KMmusic316]

Ben felt luke's presence

[@ChillandQuill]

except for the humming.

[@Stomaia87]

I found Last Jedi to be a very "eh" film. Not bad, not great. Some things I loved, some things that had me shaking my head. I'm glad I saw it, but can't say I'm excited to see it again.

[@davidl2899]

THANK YOU I person that does not says "wah it's bad because it's not the OT" just judges it as a movie not to make it to be as good as the OT

[@iug5672]

I think that the fact that there are plenty of nothing happening on entertainment,good stuff is overlooked and bad stuff becomes infamous while Hype is the only "good" thing that goes around the Internet,people tend to exaggerate on their reactions A movie can't just be good or bad anymore,people need it to either be the greatest movie Ever or the worst thing since the Great Depression.

[@jakenavatka9431]

I have to disagree with you guys on this one. All of Rose being paired with Finn's stuff in the movie, Luke becoming a reclusive coward after causing Kylo Ren to become evil and everything relating to Admiral Holdo kills this movie for me. It has some moments, but it just didn't work as a movie.

[@plasticvision]

I absolutely loved last jedi. so so good.

[@TheDarkNet-.-]

I cannot believe this got 7 likes.

[@plasticvision]

@@TheDarkNet-.- believe it, idiot

[@azoth6641]

Expecting a clipless Nostalgia Critic review before this year ends (it's become a tradition already).

[@elinas2010]

With AJ now? He hated TLJ, so it should be fun =) Reverse Man of Steel review)

[@wilburdemitel8468]

What? None of them hated the last jedi you dumbass, did you even watch the review?

[@cartoonnetworkdisneyxdsupe6864]

Cyrus Jed Binauhan It’s coming next week on the 27th

[@ryankornacki9918]

Im not saying this movie didnt have any problems, but I hate the people who complain about this movie trying something new just because its not like the old Star Wars. These are probably the same people complaining that The Force Awakens was too similar to A New Hope.

[@angeloluna529]

a new hope V2

[@sethanderson4623]

Ironically my friend hates Force Awakens for its copy paste problem, and loved Last Jedi because it tried to be so different. He's probably the exact person Rian Johnson was aiming this movie towards

[@tarynwilson1223]

Totally agree

[@gvd72]

Seth Anderson While I can’t say I hated Force Awakens, Idid have issue with it being so copy paste. However, if this movie is indeed very different (going to see it tomorrow), I would much rather prefer that. I would rather see something different and good rather than the same thing over again.

[@demi-fiendoftime3825]

This movie loves fucking with expectations and shoots every fan theory in the face with a bazooka people are pissed that they got played hard serously TFA set us up and then they pulled out the rug from underneath us and I found it awesome but I can see why some would be mad

[@Wilsontheterrible]

**Spoilers** Sat in the theater for a while while the credits were rolling and it dawned on me that I just didn't like the movie. I loved parts of it but so much seemed wasted from the prior movie, not wrapped up, not resolved, just wasted. I felt like the Vice Admiral's refusal to just spell out the plan was a colossal waste of time, caused a needless mutiny, and her hyperspace attack on The Supremacy opens a titanic plot hole (why don't rebel ships do that all the time, why doesn't the empire do it, why doesn't the empire just ram their ship into the hole they're hiding in, why weren't the other ships firing, why did the hyperspace attack destroy the OTHER star destroyers). And at the end of it I don't see why anybody could find the First Order threatening at this point. They failed at literally everything they do. The Empire was intimidating and the First Order in VII was intimidating because they were competent, they made mistakes but they were understandable. The First Order, General Hux, and Kylo Ren are just...stupid. They're stupid, emotional things that lash out in stupid, emotional ways. The Resistance is no better, they made most of their own problems, but they had the benefit of plot armor. Their victories are easy and their sacrifices are minimal (One X-Wing took out ALL of the defenses of that Dreadnought and only flying bombers in a ridiculous close formation almost made them lose). No characters developed and virtually all of them are exactly where they were at the end of the VII. The only development that came was from Poe and Finn, but Poe's development came from a flaw that he didn't display in the first movie and seemed to have been manufactured, and Finn looked like he had overcome his cowardice at the end of VII only to have it spontaneously return at the beginning of VIII. It just seemed lazy to me. I empathize with exactly one character in this movie, the planet, cause I'm just a mountain of salt about the whole thing.

[@ChrisPTenders]

Agh... you're speaking my language man. I don't really think the kamikazi thing is an economically viable strategy, and that's probably why we don't see that happening a lot... war ships are expensive and not exactly expendable, except as a last resort. But so much of what happens in this movie, particularly with the Resistance, could have easily been avoided with some common sense or simple communication. It's not good conflict when it's so contrived. That entire Finn and Rose subplot was contrived... if Vice Admiral whoever had just told Poe her plan, there would be no need for the subplot at the casino. The tracking thing was completely illogical... how could they figure out it was new technology by process of elimination? My first thought was there's a mole... and if THEY HAD JUST ACKNOWLEDGED THAT POSSIBILITY then you solve the first plot hole and avoid a second. The mutiny would actually be called for because they'd know there's a traitor in their midst... and WHO'S THE FIRST PERSON TO COME TO MIND??? Maybe the former Storm Trooper? How interesting would that be? That would play into the "kill the past" thing. Finn would have to overcome his origins, and his character could actually develop. Missed opportunity. Poe was the one character I felt most attached to after the last movie, and reading his backstory made him the character I most looked forward to seeing again - but this hot headed trigger happy twitch mutineer is not the same character I had so much respect and attachment to. More contrived conflict, there's no way the Poe the same pilot Leia trusted to go on a mission to get the map to her brother. Speaking of... why was there even a map if Luke didn't want to be found? The solution for Poe's mutiny isn't a solution for what caused the problem, but instead some last minute "Poe just misunderstood" stuff set up by Leia hand waving the real problem away as "that Poe's a feisty one, eh?" The problem was cause by the VA's inability to communicate or lead, there needed to be a consequence to that, and her death played as a sacrifice wasn't that... it could have been if her remorse for failing as a leader had informed her resolve to make things right... but it's not acknowledged. That's not "challenging" as the sibs put it, it's completely narratively unsatisfactory. It's amazing what could be fixed in this movie with just a few lines of dialogue, added, changed, or removed. Poorly written.

[@dungeonsandducky8817]

I have been waiting for an excuse to get into this discussion. The economics of space torpedoes! So lets take a bit of Star Wars legends, which is for the moment, questionably cannon. The CR-90 Corellian Corvette, the same one as the beginning of A New Hope, costs 3,500,000 credits, by legends. One of these going to hyperspace should, in all actuality do a very similar amount of damage to a large ship, like an Imperial 1- Class Star Destroyer, costing a whopping 150,000,000 credits, would be eviscerated. Now compare that to price of an T-65 X-Wing Starfighter, costing a fairly cheap 150,000 credits, by legends standard. These fighters, as we know are built with a hyperdrive as well, meaning they could also kamikaze into enemy ships, and would probably do pretty well in handling small ships, but the one that takes the cake for, "This Is Just a Space Torpedo" Would be the GR-75 medium transports, seen in the Empire Strikes Back, costing a tiny 350,000 credits by legends lore. These things are cheap, big, and have a hyperdrive. These things are the pinnacle of space torpedo and would smash most ships into debris. This is why they need to go back to the idea of folds in space, so that you can't hit shit while flying through space, because it shouldn't be possible to travel safely through space, as a tiny piece of space dust should be able to tear through your ship.

[@Wilsontheterrible]

I started getting a little bit leery about how they were treating hyperspace back in Force Awakens with Han exiting IN ATMOSPHERE, but I can give a little leeway because, you know, Han MF Solo. Then in Rogue One they were able to communicate in Hyperspace. Now apparently they can aim it and hit stuff in real space. Speaking of torpedo's, we know that they're a thing in Star Wars. We know that guided projectiles are a thing in Star Wars...why wasn't that ship getting torpedoed to dust by The Supremacy and it's 3 fully functional Star Destroyers and presumably full TIE and Bomber squadrons? Again, this leads back to my original and largest problem with VII, that it makes The First Order look incredibly stupid. And you cannot be scared of a stupid enemy. Nobody thinks the First Order is going to win because they lack the ability to plan and act on those plans. Vader didn't lose a single fight until the very end. The Empire didn't make any obvious tactical mistakes at all. The First Order, by contrast, and General Hux specifically are a face in search of a rake to step on. Hardly a convincing antagonist.

[@dungeonsandducky8817]

Honestly, a lot of the fights made no sense, destroying the republic off screen when we could have had one serious show down between Snoke's Fleet and some ships that have never had a chance to be cannon, including three ships that they showed off but didn't let them show their stuff. We really could have had an amazing space battle. I was personally really pissed off when they blew up what looked to be my favorite star wars ship, the mc-30 without it even getting to fire back.

[@Wilsontheterrible]

Absolutely agree. In my mind, if Holdo had just spilled the beans about her plan to Poe the whole casino world scene wouldn't have been needed and it could have set the stage for a really good fleet battle. Or they could have escaped and taken a couple of weeks to set up for a really good land battle on the salt world. As it stands...meh. I love the ship designs and it kind of bothers me that we don't get to see them really unload. The Dreadnought in particular looked unbelievable and it's commander seemed like the kind of battle hardened fighter that would make a cool enemy, wasted that too.

[@josephperez2004]

Phasma survived being tossed in a trash compactor on a planet sized weapon that exploded. I can very much see her somehow having survived the explosion on the ship.

[@spookyryu]

the whole movie could be 30 minutes if Laura Dern tells the plan to Poe, at the end he agreed she was right -_- and the first order wouldnt know where to shoot, nobody would die, -_-

[@JuanRodriguez-rb6zm]

YES!!!

[@megasean3000]

He would have still thrown a hissy fit and call her a coward and then hatch the plan with Finn. It’s not until Leia eases his worries that Poe finally calms down.

[@spookyryu]

is that hot headed? he wouldnt be in the rebellion, lol I wish to see soldiers behaving like that, just punching to his superiors lol

[@rohamcsigusz]

So whats this guy's body count? On the rebel side?

[@ianbailey6592]

Holdo had potential, but she was ruined by illogical writing.

[@Blckk89]

Nobody hates Star Wars more than the fans do.

[@JimothyRoss]

Reward for most true statement ever uttered...

[@CouragSomeone]

+Wilkwolf He didn't create it, but it is true.

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

Nobody hates (BAD) Star Wars movies more than the fans do. And nobody hates Star Wars fans more than the makers of (bad) Star Wars movies.

[@QBig1234]

The rebel parts of the movie were awful. Both the chase and the casino plot devices felt very forced. Poe being demoted just single rank for causing loss of large portion of the rebel fleet was weird. And the "genius" escape plan was just lazy because it relied on stardestroyers not having windows.

[@MedTech37572]

On the part of star destroyers not having windows...it worked in Empire...

[@countrymisfit9300]

Watching the rebel bombers going down like zeppelins was really cool

[@sewthernbelle]

I loved it. But I guess I'm not a Star Wars super fan because I don't hate this like the rest of the comment section seems to. Seriously, do Star Wars fan just not like change?

[@SuperSymbiote1]

Travelbound They don’t like things that don’t make sense.

[@HappyCynic]

When it's a change for the better, no.

[@shawnsicle]

Papi F this absolutely made sense. And yes, it's a change for the better.

[@wiledwiredweasel560]

If you're serious about understanding people's dislike of the movie, there are places you can go. If you're just trying to degrade people for not liking a movie you enjoyed, then...

[@SuperSymbiote1]

How did Luke die then? For no reason.

[@Majormindandsoul]

Doug your head is glowing like ET's fingertip 😭😭

[@lukeamparo6586]

Spoiler Darth Jar Jar dies.

[@TheJamieRicecakes]

Totally agree about the side quests! Unfortunately, I also just liked Rose's sister who died setting off the bombs better than Rose! So I was constantly like, ugh wish this was the other girl.

[@tigerli1986]

... because Rose's sister was beautiful!! *lol* Don't be so obvious...

[@asaturdaymorningcartoonvil3968]

Im a huge Star Wars fan. I've been a fan for years. I watched all the movies before I saw it and I didn't overhype myself. I went to watch it with no high expectations. After I saw the movie, I definitely understand why so many people liked it and also why so many people hated it. There was so many things this movie did that I felt like it did right but at the same time there was a lot of things that were done wrong. If Force Awakens didn't divide the fans this movie will. Overall I thought it better than Force Awakens and Rogue One and it was good and just good. Nowhere near Empire good but nowhere near Attack of the Clones bad.

[@mariojetsluigi11]

Thank. You.

[@thehistorynerd8537]

Same

[@Jonathanest90s]

A Saturday Morning Cartoon Villain Jesus Christ you are wrong! It was near perfect, it was well made.

[@abdullahaltabban3759]

A Saturday Morning Cartoon Villain same

[@MrRushhour4]

Yeah got the same vibes. Just look on meta critic its divided almost perfectly 50/50

[@shaid1111]

I think this is the best one. It does something new, which is so fucking refreshing in a world where everything has to stay the same otherwise everybody freaks out.

[@dmwalter9004]

Herman Falck How you have your opinion, but yeah no the entire final act betrays the Star Wars cannon so much, Snoke, Phasma, and Luke were wasted the entire Finn and Rose section of the plot was basically a waste, most of the humor ruins the characters in it, things didn't make sense, I don't care about episode 9, this movie isn't good from my perspective

[@americanfootball8194]

Dm Walter I don’t know how you can hate this great film

[@mvttz]

Xcaliber The Wise because the plot was god awful

[@AWSVids]

I’m one of the people who is sitting in the middle with this movie... a lot that I liked, but definitely some key things that I didn’t like. It’s a mixed bag for me. With that being said, I want to ask you this: What exactly is this “something new” that it did, and why does it make the movie better? Is it because you genuinely think it works better as a story, or is it JUST that you like the “refreshing” feeling of something (anything?) new/different?

[@lukasr1166]

Becuse that's why everyone complains that TFA is a rehash of a new hope. Which it is by the way.

[@talkingbenson5487]

Ah cmon - how can this movie be so good to you? I think aside from this intentional fucking with fans expectations and not following up well on the Force awakens this movie is just badly written as well - the movie is too long (imo) and not well paced, the whole chasing atmosphere almost becomes like a snail vs turtle race. And side plots like Finn and Rose going to casino planet were just pretty worthless in the end. Also Poes sideplot was weird, where he constantly argued with his leader who was purposelly holding back information for no reason. And yeah, the leia scene, plus the end with Luke... cmon!

[@Vooblebooble]

This is the first video I've seen talking about this movie where the comment section is actually kind of civil! Hooray!

[@rydermccall3590]

Kylo Ren did what Darth Vader never could: He killed his master and took his place.

[@devinjedimaster9947]

ryder mccall holy shit that's true damn i like him even more now.

[@Bat-talk]

Naa they didn't show how strong snoke was supposed to be

[@TheSrawperd]

It's a shame we learn literally nothing about his master.

[@ChillandQuill]

vader did kill his master and had a legit turn from 2nd most evil in the universe to a good guy.

[@kfinn3068]

Joseph Gillespie Great point. Ren was presented with the same choice

[@prommac2]

I'm seriously stunned you guys loved this movie.

[@TheonlyWelc0mematt]

Say what you want but you can’t deny: sassy Luke is the best Luke.

[@sevenseveen1337]

no. sassy Luke aint Luke. there is nothing about the Luke in the orig trig that comes back to this film. he is a pessimist atheistic postmodern ass hole who, while not willing to kill his father who was the second most evil person in existence at the time and massacred a shool of kids. he goes, armed, to his child nephew's room and seriously contemplates murdering him in his sleep, before even confronting him on the topic

[@RandomCorvid]

He is no longer a bright eyed farm boy, this is a man who has seen and done terrible things, he fought in a war and has watched close friends and family die a man who has had time to reflect on his success and failures, when he saw the darkness in Ben and became scared that he was creating another Vader who when Luke was younger did not know of the terrible things his father did, and in a moment of weakness tried to make sure no one would have to go through what he and his friends did. Luke Skywalker went from a blank slate the audience can step into to live their fantasies into a complex character who has his own fleshed out personality with both strength and flaws just like any other person and not some glorious hero that he hates being

[@michaelford8017]

To: seven seveen _________________ He didn't planned on killing Ben, he was armed because as a Jedi he was always armed. He went to Ben to see, through the force, how much darkness was inside his nephew. Once he saw, he ignited the lightsaber in a moment of "pure instinct". It was just for A SECOND, you misunderstood that scene.

[@joec7217]

I honestly cried when I saw Yoda again

[@CeltycSparrow]

I kind of felt like Yoda had a Rafiki type role in this film. Like Rey just left and Luke is sitting there being all broody and confused and he just whacks Luke over the head and said "stop this emo thing...she needs you"

[@DerSektenspinner]

Yeah, well there was no magic for me since they decided to gave Yoda his fake personality for this, he used for 2 min on Luke to trick him before he went normal for the entirety of the Star Wars franchise - until now, for no reason at all. For no reason at all is, what I would describe most of TLJ plot with. I have no idea how you can defend this movie.

[@TheRevolucas]

I cried when they treated his character improperly. Almost like whoever wrote the story didn't give two shits about the original characters.

[@Invirulent]

I think a lot of people did. They CGI'd a fucking puppet.

[@CeltycSparrow]

DerSektenspinner I actually agree with you....Yoda in the original movies was the wizened, noble character...and he was an actual puppet. There was no CGI....in this movie, (if my memory serves me) he was almost TOO shiny and he looked too young compared to the last time we saw him. I mean I know when they did the ghost visuals of Obi Wan and the rest in the originals it was blue, but Yoda in this one almost looked psychedelic to me in this one and his ears were wrong. I mean I just looked up the voice actor who played Yoda....it was Frank Oz who did his voice in Empire and Return of the Jedi. And I know Yoda became a CGI character in the prequel movies (where he was also voiced by Oz) but I know for a fact that they used puppets in the scene in Maz Kanata's bar in the Force Awakens. I think they should have gone back to the Yoda puppet for this scene he had with Luke. This could have been a pivotal scene in the movie for Luke's character....much like his scene with R2D2 when the little droid showed him quite clearly WHY he needed to come back. Instead I feel like they made it....almost disrespectful to both characters. I mean I get what the message was....but it was still almost disrespectful the way they did it.

[@thewewguy8t88]

honestly i feel like the liea flying scene was the most wtf scene since indana jones jumping in the fridge to surive the nuke.

[@exquisitecorpse4917]

The casino scene didn't fit because they had a very specific setup (Go to casino, get this hacker guy), but they paid it off by....escaping jail with a different guy? So why did they go to the casino? And why was the hacker character introduced when absolutely none of it mattered? The Rose/Finn story worked when it connected to the other three stories, and anything that isn't in communication with those stories should have been cut.

[@shawnsicle]

Exquisite Corpse hacker character is most likely going to be in episode 9

[@exquisitecorpse4917]

.....then set him up in episode 9. This movie is two and a half hours long with at least nine major characters, and we're wasting 15 minutes of it to set up some random dude from the next movie!? This is a very good Star Wars film, and I really enjoyed it, but tough love is a necessity: Screenwriting 101 says we don't bloat an already enormous story with people and places that are unnecessary to telling that story.

[@hanscarabonala2462]

I bet that they did it do to some EU stuff I overall enjoyed it. The scenery was beautiful and the design suited the movie well. It was kinda confusing though.

[@bearzerger]

Not just the casino scene. Their entire plot didn't matter if you think about it. It begins with the rebels running away. Then comes Poe's stunt, which did nothing, cause the rebels kept getting chased. Next is Finn and Rose's mission which got them eventually on Snoke's ship where they failed to accomplish anything and got captured. They only escaped because by sheer luck because ramming always works. Poes mutiny, which only happened in the first place because that Vice Admiral refused to tell people her plan, was over in like two minutes. Then on the planet they attempted to stop that laser from firing and they failed again. Finn even failed with his heroic sacrifice. Ultimately Luke and Rey helped them escape. If Poe had just twiddled his thumbs, Rose kept cleaning escape pods and Finn had stayed unconscious the entire movie the plot wouldn't have changed at all. They would have still ended up on that planet, I assume the First Order would have somehow found them and Luke and Rey would have cleaned up after them. Nothing would have changed.

[@Jared-cm2wv]

They went with DJ out of desperation. They were out of time and on the run, there was no way to find Maz's dude. The script needed him because Finn and Rose wouldn't have sold out the resistance. This was thematically appropriate because the entire movie, until the climax, is about losing hope. Luke has given up, Rey can't find a guide and is more than ready to fall to the dark side, Leia is unconscious, Poe can't trust his leader, Finn and Rose fail the casino mission, BB-H8 stops their infiltration, DJ betrays them and gets more soldiers killed, they escape but seemingly have nowhere left to run. Meanwhile, Rey believes Ren can turn, but he was actually just doing the "kill my master and take his place" thing that both Dooku and Vader failed to pull off, Rey admits that she has no grand destiny or ancestry: she's "nothing", from "nothing" parents, lived "nowhere". *The* lightsaber that marked her as a successor is broken. Ren's chasing the *handful* of rebels left. Even with the Falcon's help, the junky ships are useless, Finn's attempted heroic sacrifice wouldn't have worked, Rose is critically injured. Hopeless. Everything is hopeless, except for Yoda's lesson to Luke. Then Luke shows up on Crait. He starts sparking the "legend" that inspired a new generation of rebels. He puts Kylo in his place without even being in the same *system* and becomes, like Qui-gon, Ben, Yoda, and Anakin before him, more powerful than a dark Jedi could ever imagine. The legend lives on, inspiring the kids from the casino's stables, one of whom is force sensitive and most likely a future student of Rey's. Luke becomes once again the spark that will light the fire that destroys the imperials. That's why the first 2/3rds bad to be so bleak, so full of failure. Because what good is an ending about hope if it's not built on a hopeless situation?

[@pinkwings8036]

"hearing the rhymes, not necessarily the repeats..." what a lovely way to sum up the movie's tone. thanks, Doug!

[@EmmaBonn96]

I really enjoyed this film, I’m surprised about how much flak it’s gotten

[@tigerli1986]

Same here.

[@TheDarkNet-.-]

It's a pile of heaping shit.

[@aMilling]

It's so nice to hear people liking it. So much hate from star wars fans. I fucking loved it.

[@Jonathanest90s]

Hunter Gibson Nobody is talking to you!

[@Jonathanest90s]

The Milling I adore it!

[@larryconnors6161]

Is it better than the darth vader scene in rouge one

[@aMilling]

There is a scene in there that's on par, when it comes to lightsaber stuff. And then there is a scene that will take your breath away how beautiful it is.

[@purefoldnz3070]

You have low standards. You loved the whole subplot with space Greyhounds and animal abuse too? lol WTF.?!