Can Taking Turns Dominate Modern with Wilds of Eldraine?

[@yongestation_]

cool deck, early into the video but something that didn't occur to me until it started happening is how nice it is to be able to "cycle" bindings w/ beanstalk even with no relevant targets while you're trying to chain extra turns.

[@bahamuhtgames4031]

cool deck! it reminds me this guy at my locals that takes infinite turns. the earliest ive seen him pop off was turn 4 and it was amazing! super fun to play against, and it seems like he has a blast playing it.

[@Frommerman]

Maybe it's too cute, but would one Jace, the Mind Sculptor be worth it to add to allow you to set up miracles Temporal Masteries in your hand? Also serves as a win condition if you get enough turns stacked up.

[@zyxia6165]

- Murktide + JTMS does free up Kaheera, and still give a reasonable win con. Which seems like a really cool way to build this deck. Definitely wrong tho lol

[@JonaxII]

Don't think jtms is playable at all in a Bowmasters' world.

[@Higley1234]

Planeswalkers get better when your opponent can't attack them

[@ethanpowell6069]

Should the explores be Growth Spiral? Helps with force of negation, instant speed?

[@thegraylemon]

I wonder how good it would be to cut the Murktide and play Kaheera? Teferi, Hero as a one of could be really strong in this type of deck

[@awsomegadgetguy7191]

Murktide is there to help you end the game. You can cut Murktide for Kaheera, but then why are you trying to take extra turns? Do you really want to have to combo into 6 extra turns instead of 3? This is a combo variant, not a control variant. Maybe the more control version is better, but that version doesn't run extra turn spells or Murktide anyway.

[@Higley1234]

Teferi, hero is probably a much better win condition than murktide since it's harder to answer. Fury and kaheera are a pretty good plan B and fire/ice could take the place of explore while being pitchable to fury

[@im18nowism]

Kaheera is probably much better than murktide. You want a way to ensure you have inevitably, rather than a fast clock. A fast clock is hardly reliable if there is only one in your deck. Only argument I can see for murktide is for time considerations

[@JohnFromAccounting]

@@awsomegadgetguy7191 4 Solitude and Kaheera can close out the game just fine. Kaheera is in the companion zone, which allows an extra deck slot for Teferi, Hero of Dominaria. Kaheera is far, far more consistent than Murktide, which you have to luck into.

[@senfschmade]

could've*

[@frogysjumps]

I got totally destroyed by a similar build the other day. Excited to watch the whole vid, hope you did well Reid!

[@ronaldrage2118]

who would've thought that adding green to a blue white control deck could give it so much more power. I really like the card up the beanstalk, the design behind it is awesome.

[@epticrin]

Oko and Uro would like a word haha

[@Pseudoscorpion14]

Slightly missed play at 1:17:26 - Reid could have Solitude'd the Ballista after the Pendelhaven trigger resolves, keeping the opponent from killing the Ballista themself and exiling it.

[@skipspik1571]

Love taking turn, use to have the red blue veersion with fire of invention and mystic scantuary to loop them back on top Curious of what that one will do. I' mseeing a cut on the draw 2 engine with value cards only for you, that could be interesting.

[@MTGEDH]

Mystic Sanctuary is banned it must have been a while since you played.

[@skipspik1571]

A few years indeed, I stopped when sanctuary was banned and went back to Jund. @@MTGEDH

[@-homerow-]

3:37 Super League is the Best!

[@MCTimemaster]

if we're revamping throwback decks, any chance lantern control will be viable again one of these years?

[@zachariahhuey9876]

Love the gameplay Reid

[@FANTASTICpwnage]

Reid Duke playing my long-time favorite Modern deck in 2023?? WHOA

[@m.wagner7008]

Cool deck, thanks a lot❤

[@michaelchambers9148]

Is bowmasters now one of those cards like Snapcaster Mage, that finds a home in all formats right away?

[@AmazingChestTTV]

Not just found a home, but kicking out the old residents. I think Bowmasters is in something like 60% of ALL Legacy decks on MTGO now. Everyone's splashing black just to play it, because the best answer to a Bowmasters is your own Bowmasters.

[@mattchurchify]

Why did you not Solitude the Match 2 G1 Ragavan during your turn rather than allow counterspell to be up during their turn?

[@rekenner]

Playing around dash vs counterspell

[@doomtomb3]

I think bouncing the token with Tef 1 and playing the 2nd plusing instead of bouncing the bowmasters would be the play there

[@nickraupp6104]

YEAHHHHHH THIS IS SICK

[@alessandroboscaini8424]

Why not drop the regent and play kaheera?

[@udhh2619]

37 to 1 is a close game when your reid duke

[@Joelthelobo]

i think if no kaheera, then add 3 snapcasters and drop 2 lands, and 1 brainstone over serum, or jtms

[@MTGEDH]

A 1-2 of God Eternal Kefnet is really strong with the swap of a few cards. Instead of Explore playing Growth Spiral to draw cards on your opponent's turn (which GEK ignores timing restrictions when casting the copied card). It also gives you extra copies of a turn spell at a 2 mana discount so you can make sure to get at least 2 turns off of 1 card. It's very difficult for your opponent to permanently deal with it. As a result you can run a couple less copies of Temp Mastery and run a couple copies of Consider or Opt instead.

[@Higley1234]

All of those cards are unplayable in modern. God eternal kefnet is too slow and unreliable while growth spiral and explore are clunky

[@im18nowism]

Explore is already in the deck lol

[@MTGEDH]

​@@Higley1234I know reading is hard and apparently you didn't watch the video either as Explore is currently is this build of the deck and is why I said to swap out Explore with Growth Spiral so you can draw on your opponents turn to make best use of Kefnet's ability. Good looking out though.

[@Higley1234]

@@MTGEDH you're super cool, thank you for your extremely valuable input

[@MTGEDH]

​@@Higley1234I'm pretty sure I did add something of value by recommending a card that could work well in this particular deck with some minor adjustments. You tried to say I was wrong while being wrong in your statement. Nice try though

[@joeaquilino19]

Reid this would look good with plantir of Ornathac

[@jakx2ob]

Not sure. The card has a pretty decent chance at killing you with mill

[@OneWithTuna]

Sorry haven't played modern in a while is mystic sanctuary banned?

[@janesleny728]

howdy Reid!

[@jonathonduran5557]

why not plat abrzeal like titan? its a blocker. i get drawing is good but not dying is better, no?

[@jonathonduran5557]

I also think the monkey can help fight all the edicts around. I mean even entreat the angels could be good as well maybe?

[@Creme_theDON]

Why not growth spiral

[@cuff82292]

You may play an additional land this turn is much better than put a land into play when your chaining spells drawing multiple cards over the course of a turn. Especially when the land you put into play might matter if you've drawn a better option. growth spiral requires you play whats available right then and there. Also in a multicolor mana base 2 pips makes a big difference compared to 1 when certain turns have to be played very tightly. I could imagine a split being reasonable, but the turns players have preferred explore over the years while growth spiral was an option (I recall a list during GP Hogaak that made it to the semi finals or finals opting for explore) so that's likely the reason). A part of me thinks elvish reclaimer alongside a copy or flagstones of trokair might be worth considering as acceleration or a way to get your basics in play around blood moon, but perhaps it opens up too much and gets clunky.

[@lucamasseroni7]

No jace with all that miracles?

[@BrandonC1992]

Brainstorm would be good with Temporal mastery as maybe a 2 of in the deck?

[@Higley1234]

You might want more free or almost free spells to really maximize the bean

[@awsomegadgetguy7191]

You're right in thinking that either not drawing cards from beanstalk, or discarding to hand size from beanstalk feels bad. However, those are two different decks with two different end games in mind. The one featured in the video is planning on combo killing them with extra turns / Murktide eventually. The one you're mentioning kills them with overall value and the opponent eventually can't keep up. Although they may have similar play styles and can both win with similar lines. Notice that Reid Duke cares about putting his opponent on a clock with this version where he otherwise wouldn't in the one you're mentioning.

[@Higley1234]

@@awsomegadgetguy7191 your statement doesn't really make any sense. Playing cards that make your cards better is always a good plan, especially in a deck that's trying to be as grindy as this or any other 3+ color deck. The deck shown has a plan A that's pretty easy to shut down and no plan B. Some slight changes could make this deck way better

[@Mahatmajenkins]

Game 2 round 1, making note of how important beanstalk is, I would have FoN the T1 thoughtseize game 1

[@stephensilverstein4855]

Feels like you want one 5 mana teferi and 4 of Prismatic Ending

[@seannissen2509]

what about the teferi that takes turns!?!

[@jakx2ob]

Linked decklist has only 56 cards

[@samuelrodriguez9409]

Looks kinda clunky with explore

[@piquanta7]

Fun deck but 0 Jace seems bad, 5 mana Teferi also good in this archetype

[@tysonkrehnke2835]

I got all excited to watch the modern super league..... then I realized it featured the worst commentator in magic history "Corey Baumeister". Why the hell he still gets these crazy commentary gigs blows mind. Single handedly makes the pro tours unwatchable. But such is life

[@cannonspectacle5195]

This is so random lol

[@phil817]

What's your problem with Corey Baumeister's commentating?

[@tysonkrehnke2835]

@@phil817 he's got this horrible fake peppiness about him. There isn't any aspect of him that's not plastic. And whenever commentators get loud for no reason that's not great either. Honestly that's a criticism of Paul Cheon too. And also some people just have unappealing voices, and that is what it is but if your job is talking 12 hours a day .... I think you have to have an above 50th percentile voice

[@awsomegadgetguy7191]

It's sad to say that I think Corey Baumeister is one of the better magic commentators I've heard... It's hard to find someone that is willing to not play or judge that knows and loves magic. I really liked Reid Duke commentating on the Laughing Dragon 5k (which ironically had more youtube views than the protour at the time). But big businesses like commentators that can bring views because apparently just watching the pro tour isn't enough. Although come to think of it all commentary for everything has gone down hill sports being some of the worst now. Bring back the day of radio when that's all you had no more personality or politics involved just are you good at telling a story through voice only. I think most commentary just misses timing on every single story telling point because the video is so disconnected to the audio so instead of seeing one fluid story we're experiencing story reverb that just leaves us confused, irritated and unsatisfied. And especially when you have hours of delay between the livestream and weeks of delay for a youtube video there's not much of an excuse... We don't want fast information, we want an interesting story as we watch someone else solve a million dollar puzzle (or throw away a million dollar solution to the puzzle). We don't want "I'm super happy guy" or "I'm super knowledgeable guy" we want someone that nails the story telling timing so when they go in for the final handshake it feels like we're the ones shaking hands.