Defying Canon - (Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse REVIEW)

[@thecinematicmind]

I love the direction this film takes The Spot from a punchline to targeting Miles as a personal villain. Spot on. ⚫️

[@jacobbelow4136]

Ba-dum-tss!

[@mastersith3523]

There was a time in the early 2010s where Spot was taken seriously as an assassin who killed people in the most brutal ways. Clearly they took a different direction but still made him threatening.

[@nicktiznado3336]

I see what you did there

[@D-Skotes]

I like how The Spots whole "You made me" comments bow have double meaning he caused the incident that gave him his powers and caused him to go from a bumbling idiot to a actual legitimate threat to everything.

[@Barmeecarba]

Surprisingly, the pointing meme in the movie was the bit that got the most laughter out of any moment in the movie with my audience so it clearly hasn't gotten old for a lot of people. I thought it was fine, it is an easy joke but I didn't cringe at it

[@Lumistrocity]

I think it worked because it made sence for plot reasons rather than just hey guys look spidermen pointing

[@timsoel566]

The biggest laugh of the audience when I watched was Lego spiderman.

[@Multi-fandomEldingArum]

I honestly don’t hate it. I can understand why people are tired of it, but that’s not how I feel. It probably would have been a LOT funnier if they didn’t show it in any trailers, but I still didn’t hate it.

[@ProjectKhopesh]

It's a bit like Spidey's version of a Rickroll; comfortable, genial, not mean-spirited, and most people just smile at it, but some folks are tired of it. At least it's not yet as overused as the Wilhelm Scream. ...or Muh Uncle Ben and endless Spider angst. Man, if Miles can Break Canon and finally let writers make happy Spiders, we're on the cusp of some great stories.

[@godzillafan1117]

It was earned. Little head-cannon makes it a thing that ALL Spider-People have the same joke/confusion for the pointing joke. It’s just one of their many similarities

[@hwanniggles187]

I dont think Peter siding with Miguel is out of character. The whole Multiverse collapsing really hammers home one of the main principles of being Spider-Man and that is responsibilty. We saw this too with Spider-Man PS4. Peter had to choose either letting May die, saving hundreds or saving May and letting hundreds die. He knew what he had to do but hesitated only for May to reassure him that he knows what needs to be done which is let her die to save the others.

[@rellsimon]

Four words: The Spectacular Spider Man….. so glad he was part of this movie

[@noahharris6724]

I was so happy to see him again and actually hear Josh Keaton say a line, especially recorded for this film.

[@Jayo_businessmansavior01]

​@noahharris6724 I'm saying! Like the fact they showed a certain part being canon to all the Spider-Man and he was a part of it shows us that his story continued after the show canceled. So why is Sony not thinking about bringing his series back?

[@noahharris6724]

@Jordan J1601 I believe Disney owns the TV Rights to Spider-Man, and they don't seem to have any interest in ressurecting the show. Plus, even if Disney wanted to revive Spectacular Spider-Man, Sony owns the rights to it since they're the ones who originally made it.

[@Lulu-ew7oh]

@@noahharris6724 can they get along just this once because I want my damn 3rd season

[@thecinematicmind]

He rescued the Spider Cat that was awesome.

[@giorgimamalashvili4220]

This is the ultimate FU to the Marvel Editorial that is currently (and always) making Spider-man miserable in the crappiest way possible and i'm all for it

[@GamingintheAM0801]

It's also a great meta-commentary on the way fandom works. Certain events "have to happen" in a Spider-Man story before fans will consider it canon.

[@phonesjuda7318]

@Ajay R precisely, and he is happy BECAUSE he met Miles, before that he was hyper miserable. That's the point, because Miles is the wild card to challenge the ever-lasting misery that represented Spider-man's life.

[@ginichilders9619]

And to the general concept that a hero "needs" a "dead parents or mentor figure" in their origin story to "motivate" them into heroism.

[@DreemurrSoulz]

21:30, also to add on to that. If you pay attention to when Peter saved miles in the first movie. Peter's spider sense was red and blue in the background while Miles's background was green and purple, which is prowler colors. Indicates that Miles was supposed to be the prowler in the future but changes to a heroic red and blue. Changing the story of miles.

[@GMaster4308]

Wow... that is an incredible detail.

[@FiePige1]

I loved how big a role Hobie turned out to have despite his limited appeareance in the movie: - He's the one who taught Miles to improve his Venom Strike by using his palms and not just the fingertips. - This leads to Miles being able to escape the forcefield that Miguel put him in, you can even see Hobie holding up his hands and mouthing "palms" at Miles while he's there. - Hobie doesn't actually leave his watch for Gwen, he builds his own! You can see him stealing bits and pieces from the lab in the spider-headquarters, and he foreshadows this by telling Miles to build his own watch instead of relying on getting one from Miguel. - On their way to see Miguel, Hobie tries to get Miles to go his own way and do things his way, I think this is both due to his anarchist believes, and because he knows how Miguel feels about Miles. - When everyone else is telling Miles to just accept that his dad has to die, Hobie isn't agreeing with them, even being told by Jessica that he isn't helping to which he replies "good". - When everyone else is chasing Miles, Hobie is the only one refusing to participate in the chase and he even quits the spider-society for good. (and leaves his watch from Miguel behind). - Later, when Gwen is thrown back into her own dimension, Hobie has already left a new watch (which he made for her) for her at her dad's apartment, thus making it possible for Gwen to go and assemble a team to help Miles. - And of course Hobie joins Gwens team too.

[@elecspark]

Miles sympathizes with the "Chai tea" pet peeve because earlier he himself said to the spot "the m in ATM is machine, why call it an ATM Machine?"

[@NitronIG]

I’ve just watched this film earlier today and I absolutely loved it. I genuinely think that it was the BEST Spider-Man film yet. Down to the characters, the action, and the main plot. Hell, even the ending was good. I’m really excited to see Beyond The Spider-Verse in 2024, I think it’ll be really, really good.

[@FifyTheurn]

2024? I'm not going to have to wait another 5 years? I'm not going to be in my 30's when this story is finally wrapped up? What's your source? Lol

[@DriverHenryWho3245]

It's coming out next year? WOOO-

[@azolaun]

Pretty cool how you reviewed every spiderman movie in time for this movie debut. Really does like a love letter to Spiderman fans everywhere

[@Sonic_the_hedgedog]

I love that pointing Spiderman meme. Everyone was laughing at the theatre.

[@maou9460]

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[@Bidizzle]

Some people say that Peter B Parker was ruined when he sided with Miguel and while it is an unexpected turn for the character, especially for being the main Peter in this multiverse, I like to think that this Peter is still learning what it truly means to be Spider-Man or at least needs to be reminded. In Into the Spider-Verse, you can see that while Peter is trying to mentor Miles, you can see that he himself learns from Miles too and it's because of that does he redeem himself to where he is now. I believe Peter B still has some areas of growth even in his adulthood and this is an opportunity that Peter needs to know is that Spider-Man is someone who could save everyone, no matter how small of importance they are and will try to do everything in their power to do just that, no matter what the cost. I remember in Edge of Time where Peter also criticizes Miguel for this very same belief of being Spider-Man and I hope to see something like this be delivered whether it be Miles and/or Peter showing Miguel what it truly means to be Spider-Man.

[@dn22pkkdd476]

Plus, Peter B. was there when Migel's adopted dimension collapsed and died. He saw first hand what happens when a dimension falls apart and everyone inside gets wiped from fucking existence. But he's shown the entire Nuva York chase trying to talk Miles down from his course of action, stealthily helping him out, and cheering him on as he tries to defy fate. Anyone who is calling this "character assassination" knows nothing of Peter B. He's the Spider-Man that's always been a bit more wishy-washy and more lax in his convictions and his motives. He'll try to take the easier path due to being so tired of failing and what looks like his ongoing depression symptoms that he's only just starting to shake off. But when the chips are down, he will act and help his friends in any way he can. I think in the next movie, we're going to see Peter faced with a similar choice between his daughter or the multiverse.

[@R3tr0w1]

"With great power comes great responsibility" -Uncle Ben Something this movie tackles on

[@rayyanfarooqi2167]

I just watched and I got to say AMAZING movie cant wait for the next one (haven't been this hyped since Endgame)

[@jacobbelow4136]

Went to see this movie with my sister yesterday! We both had a HELLAVA time with it! (Even though at times we did feel some important dialogue went by too fast at times or was drowned out by music and sound effects.) Still, this film absolutely deserves all the praise it gets, and rightly deserves to be recognized as one of the best AND most important Spiderman films ever made! Another matter worth bringing up is how Miles is walking the razor's edge and having quite the (undesired) gamble regarding the relationship with his parents (particularly in so far as he has to keep his Spiderman identity secret from them). How Gwen tells him that revealing that secret can only end badly like it did for her and her dad, but then several scenes later, Pavitr Prabhakar (the Spiderman voiced by Karan Soni) reveals his identity to his but it ends beautifully for him. (And how, even for Gwen, Captain Stacey came around and accepted her.) It really drives up the stakes and anticipation as to whether Miles will eventually make the move to come out and tell them. And when he does...that's when he gets the rug pulled out from under him, during the revelation that he's not in his universe! Yet another thing to be saved for 'Beyond the Spiderverse'...and I'm absolutely at the edge of my seat at seeing how that's going to play out! Although I will say (maybe this is due to be not being as well-versed in the Spider-lore as more devoted fans are) the big reveal of Miles confronting an older version of himself...turning out to be his enemy...I did NOT see that coming! (Anyone else reminded of the Zurg reveal from 'Lightyear' by that?) But that one shot at the end, before it cuts to "TO BE CONTINUED"...it's also a really nice, subtle callback to one of Miles' important Spiderman lessons from the first movie: "First rule as Spiderman: Watch the hands!"

[@NuggetGX]

I think this is the best animated movie ever made.

[@jonatanp.1976]

I think so too

[@DanialDEcool]

I don’t : I won’t be able to say

[@Sonic_the_hedgedog]

I agree.

[@SonicPowerofficialyt]

Same

[@brianb.8028]

After 7 watches I think you’re right

[@Austinator0630]

This film dethroned Sprited Away as the highest rated animated film on IMDb.

[@noahharris6724]

Here's my crazy fan therory/prediction for Beyond the Spider-Verse. Beware of spoilers. At one point in the movie, Spot references that he has a family that he can no longer be with because of the accident that made him. I think that Spot's wife will be revealed to be Olivia Octavius, the Doc Ock of Miles's dimension. Here's why: 1. They are both scientists who wanted to tap into the multiverse. That's a pretty major common interest. 2. When Spot uses the Super Collider in Mumbattan, he says, "The power of the multiverse in the palm of my hand." This is significant for two reasons. First, it calls back to Doc Ock's line in Spider-Man 2 where he says, "The power of the sun in the palm of my hand." As we later find out, the Raimiverse is tied to the film's multiverse, but this raises the question of why would a random unrelated character from another universe echo a Doc Ock quote. But if Spot and Ock are husband and wife then perhaps this was a phrase Ock once said and Spot is now repeating. Second, Doc Ock herself was actually going to say this line in the climax of Into the Spider-Verse. Perhaps this is a hint to a larger connection between the two. If my theory is correct, then expect to see Doc Ock back in Beyond the Spider-Verse working with Spot to cause even more trouble for the Spider-People. If you read my entire comment about what even I'll admit is a crackpot theory I commend you.

[@thomasmcconville9199]

also theres a shot of dock ock n her husband in a photo and im pretty sure it was him altho i cant remember it perfectly

[@mrmelonman2893]

Well damn

[@SpeedDemon55]

I find it amazing how they make Spot a c-list villain from the comics who’s only real personality trait is being friends with Mysterio to a funny at the beginning but terrifying villain. I know I’m probably one of the only Ben Reily fans to think this but I didn’t mind his character. It was a bit of a character assassination though only real problem I have is that this will probably be Bens only appearance in anything besides the comics and the 90s animated series. I loved Miguel’s characterisation as a huge fan of Spider-Man 2099 he definitely has the weight of the world on his shoulders. He defied canon destroying another universe. Even though I side with Miles more I do understand his perspective. Gwen was elevated from being an okay side character to an interesting character. Her storyline begins the movie and ends the movie and her relationship with her father Captain Stacy being amazing as someone who thoroughly enjoyed the original Spider-Gwen comics I also enjoyed Spider-Man’s new suit. It didn’t have any webs on it but it still looked great and was a new good design.

[@Yipper64]

17:45 I like to have this idea in my head of a universal way that dimensions and time travel works. Like just a concept for myself. One of the main things ive come up with is, time has a flow, like a river, but that river can turn to ice. The parts that are "ice" act as fate, and can be "broken" but its difficult if not impossible depending on the circumstance.

[@BlackoutRecon]

Genuinely waited for this one, very well done boss

[@AJarofToeJam]

I love your breakdown of the Spider-Man character study as well as the meta and moral questions asked by the writers. Do you personally feel that Miles, and by proxy Spider-Man as a character philosophy, should have it all by the end of the film? To have his cake, able to eat it too, more or less pain, loss, and consequence free?

[@ChannelPup]

With Spider-Man there's always SOME kind of compromise, so I don't see him getting an entirely happy ending. Perhaps he can save Jefferson but THAT will have some kind of effect that means he can never see Gwen again, or something.

[@marche800]

This film realy plays with the Trolley Dilemma that superhero movies love to tackle. The idea of being forced to choose between 1 person and countless people. What differenciates a hero from a super hero is thst a super hero has the ability to do both. Miles is a superhero a "good guy, is that he's willing and able to do both. Something that a lot of the other spider people seem to have forgotten.

[@SethMcfarly]

You know whats up man, i completely agree this film is amazing i cant believe how many little fun details and well told story it had, so glad my favourite movie can have such a great sequel ❤

[@TevyaSmolka]

I loved Across the Spider-verse its such a amazing sequel and I am very excited to see what happens next with beyond the Spider-verse and I cannot wait to see more Miles Morales Spider-Man and Peter B parker and his baby Spider-girl mayday parker and spider-gwen in the future because this sequel gave me everything I ever wanted which makes me so happy at least in my opinion. :)

[@Jesterclown17]

I'm sticking with my theory Canon events can be avoided so long it doesn't alter the deminsion to much. Miguel took over someone's life and changed and altered countless other lives because of it. Because he was saving people were fated to die, think of how drastically this can effect everyone around them, which could effect other people or things, and those could effect others, there's no telling where it would end. And Miguel keeps saving more and more people, stopping crimes, causing or preventing collateral damage, causing people who wrote supposed to live to die- and it kept going and going until the deminsion couldn't keep up eventually caved in on itself. What makes it worse is if he'd quit being Spiderman and just been there for his daughter, things might have turned out all right. But because he chose to keep helping people, it cost him everything.

[@marcosdheleno]

wanna know what made me fall in love with this movie? it wasnt the fluffy budding romance, or the amazing animation, it wasnt even just the characters that i loved returning. it was a moment in the movie, one that has been one of my biggest pet peevs in man of steel, and pretty much what made me unable to take that movie seriously. its when miles asks miguel, peter b, gwen and the other spidemen around "what should i do, let him die?". that scene in MoS, was botched so badly, it made me unable to sympathise with either clark or his father. but in spiderverse it works, not only because miles is asking a question BEFORE he does it. for clark he does the deed and is reprimanded by his father, telling him he shouldnt, and we are forced to believe that he "learned that lesson". that he lost that super heroic spirit he had. but to miles its the opposite, he asks this to people who KNOW what they are talking about, and they are telling him he shouldnt. and we can see in their face that this isnt a "maybe". and then, miles absorbs that, and tell them, no, i will save him, because that's what heroes do. i really hope someone one day does a break down on why that scene works on spiderverse, but doesnt in MoS.

[@thestarksider]

I read somewhere that maybe the villains weren't glitching in No Way Home was because they were brought to Earth-199999 via magic whereas ATSV uses technology. Not sure if it's legit but does sound plausible!

[@ChannelPup]

The magic explanation is one I'm willing to roll with. As it is, it's clear NWH wasn't made with the intention to tie into Spider-Verse lore.

[@eagc7]

One theory i've heard to explain the absense of glitching in stuff like the MCU, could be as you said compatibility, like maybe because the worlds we see in the MCU look exactly the same as the regular universe then the body atoms don't fall apart, like if you look at Tobey's world and Tom's world they are 100% exact same looking, therefore Tobey doesn't glitch when he enters the MCU as his atoms are compatible with that world Now with Spider-Verse each universe has its own style even if its small, but they have their distinct looks, so lets say if Tobey went from his world to Peter B. Parker world, then Tobey would glitch out, as now his body is totally incompatible with this world that looks totally different from his world. Side note: i had a different experience with the pointing scene, while your crowd groaned, over here everyone laughed.

[@biko6158]

Your new intro is so hard, every time I tune in I start hyping up the dance moves

[@agrilsunil1]

Can’t believe channel pup was able to watch the movie and make a video on it before I even had a chance to see it.

[@KamiAnimeS1]

I fucking loved this movie. It was so great. Spoilers!!! Spoilers!!! Spoilers!!! Spoilers!!! Spoilers!!! Spoilers!!! Spoilers!!! I think it’s even better. It actually develops miles character. Way better than what it was in the first movie. spoilers!!! And miles literally sees what he could be at the end of the film. And start to realize his mistakes. And Miguel told this man lol. Avi Arad, convinced Phil Lord and Christopher Miller. To add The spot as the main villain. Because he wasn’t the original villain. But even so the spot was an amazing villain. I loved him. And the twist with the 2 miles was crazy so that other earth that we follow our miles that we think is the original. Technically the original would’ve been in earth 42. And he fucked that one over. What in actuality was spot. And also Gwen was on point and I really liked her father. And Miguel O’Hara was great too. I give it a 8.5 out of 10. I have to rethink my list for the best Spider-Man movies. Because for me it’s no way home, Across the spider verse is my new 2nd. And spider-Man two is definitely going to down to the third place. Followed by Spider-Man one at 4th, and lastly at fifth spider-Man homecoming. I was so excited man I can’t wait for part 3. Beyond the spider verse. Which is scheduled for, march 29, 2024

[@nafimahbub74]

How’d you like spectacular Spider-Man’s role in it?

[@ChannelPup]

Got more than I bargained for, so I was thrilled.

[@snowdude8583]

9/10 this movie is amazing, the animation, music, characters, everything besides you know the pregnant spiderwoman(jessica drew) it just bothers me when shes fighting and shes pregnant,

[@creedecriswell634]

Yeah it makes me uncomfortable

[@KazumaKuzuryu4162]

Also Peter bringing Mayday, Peter why are you putting your baby in danger?

[@dannychaos3281]

Pregnant in intro thats 8 months prior to the opening credits that shows Gwen's been with Spider Society for 8-months... And no explanation like "I'm from a universe that had humans develop elephant pregnancy styles"

[@KazumaKuzuryu4162]

@@dannychaos3281 I thought Gwen said she's been with them 2 months.

[@kabsageigj8941]

Yep eye-roll inducing choice for the character.

[@arithedragon6198]

A theory that I have about "Beyond the Spiderverse" is that they are going to put Miles' ideals as Spider Man to the test in the next movie, by eventually convincing his dimension 42 self to be a hero, instead of a villain.

[@izumolee6714]

Honestly i wouldn't be surprised that in the 3rd film Ben Reilly is going to have his own epic moment, why would Miguel choose him to be on his team with Jessica Drew if he's not going to have an impact. So sure Ben Reilly fans are disappointed now but i just have this feeling of good things will come to those who wait.

[@jonathanking9954]

Ben Riley has fans ????

[@untapped8776]

It's incredible how many orders of magnitude bigger and more epic Across the Spider-Verse is compared to Into the Spider-Verse. It felt like it was never going to end, and I didn't want it to. Don't think I can wait another year for Beyond, but I'm beyond excited to see how this story ends.

[@powerfulcat72gaming56]

I love your incorporation of Bob from Bob's Burgers, commenting to boost you into, across, and beyond the youtube algorithm lol

[@ChannelPup]

Well I love what you did there.

[@wildersaiyan3764]

Y’know, kinda sad we won’t get to see the miles & Jeff dynamic in the insomniac games

[@Zombiesnyder13]

Sony really needs to put Phil Lord and Chris Miller in charge of their cinematic universe They can save it from AVI ARAD

[@wisdomax2891]

the spiderman pointing thing was the best scene in the whole movie. how can you say this. its like a dad making a joke about something you love and even if its not a very good joke its the fact that its coming from a place of genuine love that makes it a wonderful interaction.

[@mr.moviemafia]

Maybe it’s different in the UK (you’ve said yourself you’re a cynical bunch) but I haven’t heard about the disdain for the Spider-Man Pointing Meme at all. My theater was laughing when it happened here. I get your POINT though, and if that’s one of your two negatives, that’s a good sign for the film’s quality.

[@kabsageigj8941]

That got one of the bigger laughs from the audience in my theater. I really thought I'd roll my eyes at that one after seeing it in the trailer but for some reason I thought it worked within the movie.

[@GMaster4308]

@@kabsageigj8941 Same here.

[@theoutsiderjess1869]

My favorite moment was the part where Miguel shows the tragedy in the Spiderverse there was three specific cameos I enjoyed the most

[@Topher0523]

It was an amazing movie and loved your video, but no you shouldn’t give Arad a pass at all. All credit here goes to Phil Lord, Chris Miller, and their team of directors and animators and editors. For every giant and wonderful step forward this film represents and is, this also the studio that produced venom and morbius and will give us kraven soon (and I am pissed off at that one in particular since kraven is one of my favorite marvel characters).

[@Na-mi3dx]

I’m trying to put myself in the perspective of someone who has no idea who you are, finding an across the Spider-Verse review, and being absolutely floored by being greeted immediately with Bob, from Bob’s Burger’s, telling me to subscribe.

[@chelscara]

It was interesting, I’ll say that. Great intro to what the vibes will be going in

[@bdariamihaela]

35:24 Idk about the cinema you went to and the people there but when they did the pointing me the entire room laughed, tbf there were max 20 people in the cinema 'cause I saw the movie like 2 weeks after the premiere, but still, here it's extremly rare to see people reacting vocaly at films, it was the first time in my life the whole cinema reacted at once, it felt amazing

[@noahharris6724]

I loved this movie. I think it's at least as good as the original. I might need to see a few more times before I decide if it's better or not.

[@Fan-Nimater101]

I LOVED THIS FLIM ITS GREAT AS THE FRIST

[@Lonewolf360gaming]

Genuinely a spectacular sequel

[@Amazing-dx6sp]

it's cinema.

[@UnsafestPony81]

I for one can't stand the new Miles suit. People saying that suits are being overdesigned, this one feels like a complete downgrade and its not just the fact it has no webs. The red down the sides I just think look so boring and misses the charm the og had. I would have been happy if we had the first suit back, even in the first film that suit didn't get much time in the spot light except for the final fight.

[@IsaiahSalvagno]

I think if you look at it this way, you’ll understand. You can have free will, but also live in a predetermined timeline. For example. It’s my choice if I want to wake up and drink coffee in the morning. But the timeline already knew I was going to drink coffee so it was already pre-determined that I was going to drink coffee. It’s not the timeline that made me do it. It’s just the fact that it knew I was going to because that’s just what happens. There are certain events in life that are vital to our character development. And without those events, certain things wouldn’t happen. Certain points in history that just cannot be changed. Or else it would affect everything else. So it’s kind of hard to understand. But in my opinion, Freewill can exist in a predetermined timeline. Just like in real life, God knows every move that we are going to make. But we have free will.

[@Randomguy-ih5sd]

Let us hope the 3rd movie pushes the genre even further!

[@Gilbot9000]

It was flawless, 10/10, no notes, Black Lives Matter, Protect Trans Kids, looking forward to the third one

[@SolRex5]

This is kind of a question with no answer but I feel it's worth asking. Miguel has no definitive proof that breaking canon will destroy a universe. His actions may or may not have been the reason for the destruction of the universe he was in. The situation with Mumbattan, yes Miles saved someone who was supposed to die and a giant void showed up in the middle of the city, but if we looked closely at when the Alchemax building was collapsing we already see something black was encroaching on the building and the void was exactly where the building landed. This could just mean that it was whatever spot left behind. So the question is let's say that Miles didn't save his dad and his dad died, his universe still ends up getting destroyed because of the Spot or whatever other reason. We know they will attempt to save that universe because it's the whole point of their group. But who will take responsibility? Will all the Spider people that were involved actually do anything? How will they take responsibility for a 15 year old losing his father because of their action? Cause there's no way they'll just go O well sorry you lost your father for no reason.

[@TevyaSmolka]

great review man ;)

[@adzinco6916]

we've gotten two awesome spider-man movies which also work as lgbt+ allegories and it's woven into the story so well that you can't deny that it exists in those movies. now that's cinema

[@adzinco6916]

should mention the lego segments were animated by a 14 year old. they're easily the coolest kid in school now

[@maulkiller10]

Did you know that the clock tower were miles and gwen were sitting at is the same clock tower gwen died in amazing Spiderman 2😢

[@KarolosOroseira]

Everything in yhe video is excellent, inta subbed... But... my theater really loved that super pointing scene...

[@matthewisguy7336]

21:16 thought I was the only one who noticed that lol

[@Venom-Boiii]

Who else is hoping that Insomniac Spider-Man gets an important role in Beyond the Spider-Verse? Since he’s done recording his voice lines for the Spider-Man 2 game, he might have quite a bit more lines in the next film. Fingers crossed.

[@johanstenfelt1206]

Hm, this was very interesting, you did very well with this. Now, i wonder if the next one can keep it up? I guess we’ll see.

[@theoutsiderjess1869]

The ending of this reminds me of the flash season 3 and spiderman edge of time . But unlike the show and game there is no conclusion yet to how this will turn out which simultaneously excites me as well as bums me out

[@Pikashades]

I saw this movie on Wednesday before most people and got a poster from my local theater along with everyone else.

[@exeggutivejudge3747]

AMC??

[@Pikashades]

@@exeggutivejudge3747 Finnkino Tennispalatsi

[@drippingmalasada4075]

Honestly my only real problem was miguel. Like i got his motives but i never really got more character other than “im angry and badass” and i feel like he just needs more than that yk?

[@wayneigoe6722]

To be fair, that is a fairly accurate description of 2099 in the comics... He's literally just a total dick, he's an arrogant, cocky, angry, former drug addict who became spiderman by an accident caused by a former coworker out of spite... His brother was the hero, he's a rebel freedom fighter fighting against Alchemax and other megacorperations like Stark-Fujikawa, while Miguel is a jackass who works for the very companies his brother is trying to stop. There was a legit point where Miguel even attacked and smacked his girlfriend halfway across the room. He stole his suit from a vendor at a Day of The Dead celebration. He's not a good dude, he has more in common with Venom or the Spider-man (current era) villains, than he does with ACTUAL Spider-man. And yes, he's badass, but you would be too if you had talons, claws, the ability to weild Thor's hammer and beat Thor to a pulp with it, the ability to see and react faster than normal Spidermen, and fangs with venom capable of paralyzing a foe the size of galactus... For a good comparison, think of it this way: Spiderman 2099 is basically what you would get if you gave Jason Todd Spiderman abilites.

[@drippingmalasada4075]

@@wayneigoe6722 no yeah i get all that but with what it looked like they were trying to do with him (the whole i was happy but then i fucked up and now im trying to prevent it from happening to other spidermen) it could’ve been handled better with giving him more of a personality and depth like they did with miles and gwen yk

[@wayneigoe6722]

@@drippingmalasada4075 He needs another movie worth of time to fully flesh his story and such out.

[@drippingmalasada4075]

@@wayneigoe6722 yeah but im conflicted as to whether they should even do that in beyond because theres so much they need to do in such little time and im not sure if having miguels past and stuff open up now would be a good idea

[@IsaiahSalvagno]

This movie is my fav Spider-Man movie to date 100%

[@brickzoneanimations8395]

I just watched the Film and its Awsome!! Hobbie was a real Big Bro to Miles, Indian Spidey was Fun! and I Hope that Beyond the Spiderverse will live up to expectations! also they anounced that beyond the spiderverse will come out in March of 2024 if you dont believe me then look for yourself!

[@FN64Productions]

Everyone in my theaters (i saw it 2 different nights) laughed at the pointing meme

[@tazrianhaq]

very glad i listened to bob at the beginning cause i watch you all the time and thought i was subscribed 😂😂😂

[@LucasHopkins2006]

Just like the first movie, this movie is so freaking unfair. Like I’m still trying to wrap my head around how incredible it was and I saw it 4 days ago. I can’t think of any negatives I have and I have tried to think about it but I’m drawing a blank. This is maybe the most beautiful looking movie I’ve ever seen, every big character is so good, Miles and Gwen both are really great characters on their own and have such a good dynamic, I love every bit of the story and we haven’t even gotten the third act with Beyond the Spider-Verse, and the references and callbacks, I swear when Spectacular Spider-Man showed up played by Josh Keaton, me and my brother where actually shouting (our coworkers probably got a kick out of that), and obviously things like Insomniac and Andrew were awesome to see and had me going nuts but especially Spectacular when we haven’t seen him in so long and Josh Keaton hasn’t played Spider-Man in so long as well. I’ve given myself time to really think about this and I’m standing by this, this movie is tied with the first for being my favorite movie of all time. Talk about a masterpiece

[@brandenaustin37]

I am a Ben Rielly fan, i got the joke, didnt find it all that funny mostly because its been done before and better elsewhere but i also didnt feel any real malice towards the chatacter either

[@Phillylove100]

I mean saying that Marc Webb’s, raimi’s, and the MCU universe being compatible actually makes sense. I mean think about it they’re all live action, while the spider verse universes are all animated wildly differently.

[@PhonyFox_A]

I have a theory that miles's earth won't collapes if he rescues he's father because of RIPeter existance(captian stacy)

[@xdecatron2985]

After seeing this movie I’ve given a lot of thought to this. I liked it a lot, but I’m surprised by everybody saying it’s “the best Spider-Man,” or “the best superhero movie”. I think it’s incomplete. I don’t feel like Miles’ arc with his parents is complete because he still hasn’t resolved it with THEM. I don’t think his arc with the Spider Society is complete because there’s still a big conflict brewing. I also don’t think his arc of “doing his own thing” is complete (despite being somewhat of a rehash of the first film), because he has not yet accomplished anything but momentary survival since declaring it. I DO think Gwen’s arc about finding her “band” is complete, but despite that being how the movie chooses to begin and end with voice-over and all, it is quite far from being the main focus of the film. Does anybody remember Pirates Of The Caribbean: Dead Man’s Chest? Yes, it’s considerably inferior to Across The Spider-Verse, but it similarly followed up a fun standalone film with a world-building movie that starts a lot of plot threads that are promised to be resolved in a third film that was shot at the same time. Only that third film advanced or ended several of those plot lines offscreen and for the rest, it jumped ahead to the end of their arcs in a dissatisfying way. I don’t believe that will happen here, but if it does, it will make this movie feel less good in retrospect. But beyond all of this, the scope of this movie is so incredibly grandiose that it doesn’t feel like a Spider-Man movie. I greatly enjoyed the original Spider-Verse comic event and thought it was a fun, unique adventure for the series. I thought Into The Spider-Verse was a great way to take those ideas and ground them into a more street-level-friendly storyline. But hundreds of Spider-Mans living together while determining and directing the fate of the universe feels very offbase for Spider-Man. He’s supposed to get sideswiped by Sandman on his way to college, miss his class, lose his wallet, and cancel the date he was looking forward to, not decide which lives are expendable for the fate of every universe. It’s a cool story, a fun story, but it can only be the best Spider-Man story if you don’t want an actual Spider-Man story.

[@onemancomics]

good stuff the only problumbs i had were qwens part at the begining was a little long, the spot's motavation and i dont like miles new suit

[@Angel-Otk]

I saw someone say their only complaint was that they spoke Spanish in the movie😭💀💀racist asl

[@robotoyrabbit1127]

Quick correction for some of the story you got a little wrong, (not saying you're wrong for forgetting, just wanted to clear it up) 1. It was Gwen that was warned about the Canon event, not Jess, Jess shows up with the spidey team to try and fix Spider India's World. 2. Spider Punk didn't give Gwen his watch, he made one he dropped of at her Dad's after he quits and leaves his own watch. Gwen didn't get the watch till the end from her dad. 3. Spider India was featured in Gwen's team at the end of the film (Thanks to Bored Erlands for pointing out where I missed Pup forgetting a detail)

[@borederlands5387]

Also wasn't spider india in gwen's squad at the end?

[@robotoyrabbit1127]

@@borederlands5387 Yes, I didn't notice Pup forget to mention him, My bad, I'll Update the list

[@jonathanking9954]

@@robotoyrabbit1127 also the spider from earth 42 was going to bite earth 42 miles

[@joshuaarekemase6996]

21:13 I thought I was the only one who noticed

[@theoutsiderjess1869]

Across the Spiderverse was really good but for me it's a 9.5/10 for now until beyond the Spiderverse release but man was this a fun watch

[@bobmasters9871]

An argument could be made that the way doc strange's spell works was changing the universe to include the villains and other spideys so they weren't glitching because the universe was breaking to accommodate them. That's why the spdeys in this movie glitched, because they were in unaltered universes.

[@mynym4543]

It could even be the explanation for the universe Miguel accidentally destroyed - maybe the watch technology destabilises universes if they stay there too long

[@brandenaustin37]

Say what you will about Ben Riellys portrayal in this film but its nothing compared to what the recent beyond and dark web events did to him that is peak character assassination. Flanderization cranked up to 11.

[@Monotail_Razuin]

Have seen someone bring up that the MCU uses magic for multiverse while Spider-verse is using tech for multiverse and so spitballing, magic and tech have different properties to how it effects the heroes across the multiverse/Spider-verse

[@lemonamon]

that's probably what they'll go with if they stick to this interconnectedness between spider-verse and the mcu, and if any explanation does ever become necessary, say for example they do more multiverse stuff within the mcu. probably just a bit more of a retcon since i dont think they originally had in mind that the film universes would be connected but idk, for all i know they discussed this like 3 years ago

[@TailsChao4444]

5/10 bc our boy spooder man wasn't in the movie :(

[@leebland8184]

My theory is that The Glitching is a side effect of using The Super-Collider.

[@lemonamon]

idk man when miles was in other universes without using the supercollider and instead using the watch thing he still glitched

[@Wobbers]

Lmao I love that you use the Fortnite Renders for the thumbnail 😂👍

[@ramadongordany3739]

"Did someone say family?!"

[@KaleBennett]

I'm gonna watch this movie in a couple hours, can you upload this video later?

[@ChannelPup]

I'm going to delete it before you get back. 😈

[@KaleBennett]

@@ChannelPup Bruh

[@KaleBennett]

​@@ChannelPupManaged to watch it before deletion! I loved nearly everything, even the pointing meme mainly because they raised the scale of it (I do think it ought to stop there, unless they can somehow naturally implement every Spider-Man ever pointing at each other; I doubt it), the only issue I really have would be how fast Gwen's Peter's story is told, I think some more time seeing the two of them together and her dad's dynamic with both of them before Peter died would've made the conflict in their relationship more compelling.

[@Dread-VilePlanet]

Hey, I got a question and it is would you consider Josh Keaton to be the Kevin Conroy of Spider-man?

[@ChannelPup]

Spider-Man doesn't really have a Kevin Conroy in the sense that, there is no definitive Spider-Man adaptation and that's alright. Performances like that of Kevin Conroy are never to be taken for granted.

[@Dread-VilePlanet]

@@ChannelPup ah I see also thanks for replying to my comment

[@UnderdogSMO]

My man.... "I'm just acnolaging them in a narative context" ok.... "go big or go home" >_>

[@Phillylove100]

Miguel o hara felt more like the main villain than Spot did.

[@ProjectKhopesh]

I still find it absurd that Spiderfolk "canon event breaking" would break a dimension. It's a weirdly narcissistic sort of conceit. I get that such is the groundwork for the Miguel vs Miles conflict, but man, Spiders just aren't the backbone of reality. More to the point, *Suffering* Spiders shouldn't be the backbone of reality. If the writers can break canon that way and open up the whole storytelling nature of Spider-man to allow for happy Spiderfolk and all sorts of different *coughdiversecough* stories instead of the same tired old story beats, well, that would be a triumph beyond the movies themselves.

[@corbinbrindle1488]

I like how he used the Fortnite renders in the thumbnail

[@rodrigojorquera1014]

You should go see the movie a few times before pointing out stuff in a yputube video, you got a lot of stuff mixed up. Also, that way you can hear more audience reactions in the theatre, so you can realize everybody's love of the pointing meme.

[@OliverTheRicketts]

Been hyped to see this review since I left the theater. How many times do we think Pup has said the words "Peter Parker" in his life?

[@freddiesimmons1394]

35:30 Really? My whole theater laughed, including me

[@LucasHopkins2006]

Leaving a second comment on a rewatch but frick it, I don’t see any rules about how many comments you leave on one video. I’ve got a bit of a theory (“A FILM THEORY!”…sorry, I had to) on part of how canon events may work and how that could work in Miles’ favor to save his dad and not have his universe fall apart in the process, so we’ve so far mainly seen two canon events being the one in Pavitr’s universe after Miles saves Inspector Singh, and Miguel showing what happened to the variant of his universe, but near the end when Gwen talks to her dad and he decides to quit being captain, and we know about the whole police captain/canon event thing and Gwen even seemed to realize this when she said “that means…” so it seems like Gwen might have broke a canon event and her universe is still fine, so think about this, why did the other two canon events we saw at least start to unravel that universe, with Miguel it was because he took the place of the Miguel of that universe, with Pavitr’s universe it’s because Miles saved Inspector Singh, Miles and Miguel weren’t from those universes, Gwen, when she may have broke hers, is, so that’s what I’m suggesting here/suggesting Miguel and the Spider Society are missing, if a canon event is broken by someone from another universe then the universe collapses, but if it’s broken by the Spider-hero of that universe then it’s safe, and now that Gwen has experienced that and if I’m right (which I very much may not be, we’ll find out whenever BtSV comes out) and is able to connect the dots then she’ll probably let Miles know and so he and Gwen’s team will know that Gwen and her team need to make sure they’re not the ones to save Miles’ dad and he does when the time comes so maybe his universe will be safe. Once again, I could definitely be wrong, I’m even kinda expecting that, I was just thinking about this and put these pieces together, but we’ll find out whenever the day of what’ll hopefully make this a perfect trilogy in my eyes comes

[@ramadongordany3739]

Spoiler alert: Peter gets circumcised!!!

[@ChannelPup]

OH SHIT

[@Yipper64]

The whole thing about "defying canon" doesnt quite make sense to me. Because ok, so the concept is defying canon... but in reality they are just making the canon function in a way that makes sense. Like, that's effectively what this movie existing does. it adds to the canon, it doesnt dismantle it. It just happens to have a character who's shown to be in the wrong that values their "version" of the "canon" but that's not the canon in reality. Because they are making it, right there.

[@aromaladyellie]

I think Miles wasn’t the first anomaly. Gwen was. “In every universe, Spider-Man falls in love with Gwen Stacy”. But there is no Spider-Man in hers. I think she was bitten but it was supposed to be her Peter.

[@Zenbrey]

That's different. What they call Anomalies are being crossing dimensions. Gwen was supposed to be bitten in her universe. The line about the Spider-men falling for Gwens is from her experience in the Spider society: All of the Peter parkers she met gave her the same story.

[@Wortwort-Spooderbat]

Rip i have to wait til next week to see it. I'll watch this video after that :)

[@ChannelPup]

It'll be here waiting!

[@Wortwort-Spooderbat]

Saw it a few days ago! It was pretty awesome!!