Chaos Scatter with 3ds Max

[@cgroyg]

Welcome to the future! Itoo must be changing strategies Right Now

[@FreeKiLLuminati]

wow very useful and powerful, and good replacement for the forest pack pro....good move Corona Render Team 😉👏👏👏

[@ChaosCorona]

Glad you find it useful!

[@FreeKiLLuminati]

@@ChaosCorona The next version of corona scatter it would be more professional and useful to add painting tool so we can paint on the surface.

[@ChaosCorona]

On the list already as something we will look into in some future version :) trello.com/c/IexVQh6Q/27-painter

[@ChaosCorona]

PS - for feature requests, best to post on the forum at forum.corona-renderer.com/index.php?board=53.0 as developers can't monitor KZbin comments. Thanks! Tom

[@bgtubber]

A worthy competition to Forest Pack! I'm interested to see how this compares to it. Does anyone know if it renders faster or if time to first pixel is faster with Chaos Scatter?

[@ChaosCorona]

We've never done such comparisons, but you can always ask on the forums as the community uses a wide variety of tools and someone may have tried those comparisons for themselves (forum.corona-renderer.com/index.php). Thanks! Tom

[@bgtubber]

@@ChaosCorona Thanks!

[@lachlantrescott5533]

It is roughly the same performance as forest pack.

[@bgtubber]

@@lachlantrescott5533 Good to know. Thanks.

[@I3ordo]

guys, the "chaos scatter surface color" map, the usage i totally got it wrong. It seeems it is meant to take the color from the "distribute-0n" object and give that color (and some variation) to the scattered objects color slot.. and yes it has it s uses and great addition but i was expecting something different. so it seems i will have to keep converting each material's diffuse map to "corona multimap" and add "hue gamma saturation variation" manually instead of adding it globally, i thought this was it. Maybe you can introduce a new material type (not a map but a material) that just lets you add variations without visiting each materials diffuse slot.

[@ChaosCorona]

Hi! Best to post over on the forums, where developers, support, and the community can join in on how they achieve certain results (and you can share what result you are looking for in screenshots etc.). Also it's the only place a Feature Request will be seen, since developers can't monitor KZbin comments, and we don't want to miss any valuable feedback. forum.corona-renderer.com/index.php - thanks! Tom

[@brickarch554]

really helpful but i have a problem. i scattered grass to a contour surface but alot of it is scattered few feet above the plane, also the scale of grass is increased several times. would u please tell me how to fix it ?

[@ChaosCorona]

Hmm, sounds like it might be an issue with where the object's Axis is? In any case, we'd really recommend hoping over to our forums (forum.corona-renderer.com/index.php) and start a thread over there. You can post screenshots there too and it'll make solving this mystery a whole lot easier. Nejc

[@marerubrum]

Need some cluster / distrubition map in a single Chaos Scatter starter. Advanced parametres would be nice.

[@ChaosCorona]

Howdy! Feature requests are very welcome but KZbin isn't the best place for us to keep track of them (or discuss them for that matter). So we'd really kindly ask you to repost this feature request over on our forums (forum.corona-renderer.com/index.php). Scatter has its own subforum as well and some of the features you mentioned just need a +1 from you there :) Thank you! Nejc

[@marerubrum]

@@ChaosCorona But here has the most circulation for that stuff. It would be better if someone of your team keeps the pulse of users on KZbin.

[@ChaosCorona]

@@marerubrum Actually, there is more activity on the forum, making it the best circulation :) Not only that, but KZbin does not allow posting of images in comments, so ideas can't be illustrated etc. And it is impossible to link to specific KZbin comments e.g. to come back later and say "this feature has been added". We keep the pulse of users on KZbin (e.g., here I am!) but this is not a suitable way to have feature requests sent in to us - for that, we have the forum :) Thanks! Tom

[@marerubrum]

@@ChaosCorona Ok Tom, now agree with you. Thanks.

[@ChaosCorona]

@@marerubrum TY, and we hope you'll be able to pop over to the forum and share your ideas and suggestions! Best, Tom

[@vladimircerovic]

Excellent! May we know which tree and grass models you used?

[@ChaosCorona]

Any will work, and best starting point is the content in Cosmos since it is included with Corona and has trees, grass, and even some preset scatters too that include both the scatter and the models to be scattered. Hope this helps! Tom

[@vladimircerovic]

@@ChaosCorona Amazing info! Thank you so much. Is there some tutorial to show how to set corona in 3ds max initially? Like gamma settings and some global settings, for correct visual/color outout?

[@LIQU9or]

It's all well and good, but please, add border restriction to the scatter as quickly as you can. That's one of the biggest things that forces me to use Forest pack instead of Chaos scatter

[@hermanocpimentel]

I believe you can do that by adjusting the parameters of Spline Includes and Excludes.

[@LIQU9or]

@@hermanocpimentel been trying a few options, splines don't work for me The next best thing is Corona distance in the scaling menu, but that seems like a crutch

[@ChaosCorona]

Hi! For feature requests, please post over on the forums (e.g. at forum.corona-renderer.com/index.php?board=5.0 ) as the development team can't monitor KZbin comments. We do have plans to expand upon Chaos Scatter functionality, so welcome your input on what you would like to see! Thanks! Tom

[@_p-e-c-h-e-n-k-a_]

The color of the surface is not clear what material it was connected to, was it really impossible to show it in its entirety?

[@ChaosCorona]

Sorry, I don't understand the question - the color of which surface? A timestamp from the video would help so we know which part you are referring to. Thanks! Tom

[@_p-e-c-h-e-n-k-a_]

@@ChaosCorona Сhaos scatter surface color 5:53. The materials window does not show the entire material, so it is not clear how it works.

[@_p-e-c-h-e-n-k-a_]

@@ChaosCorona I finally realized that you just apply it to the lint and don’t touch the texture of the carpet.

[@ChaosCorona]

TY for the follow up, and sorry if that was confusing! Glad you have it working now. Thanks! Tom

[@tahershowkal5482]

Great tool !!! What is the object that you scattered on the rug ?

[@ChaosCorona]

it is a patch of carpet. you can create one from splines, or use one like this: www.turbosquid.com/FullPreview/587690?referral=BBB3viz Jake

[@tahershowkal5482]

Thank you @@ChaosCorona

[@olafkramer7613]

Is it possible to paint scattered objects on a surface in Chaos Scatter?

[@ChaosCorona]

Not at present, though the feature is on the list for consideration in the future trello.com/c/IexVQh6Q/27-painter - thanks! Tom

[@davidzero192]

sorry,renderout different machine the tree in different position,if restart the machine render continute the position is wrong,which option can fix it?

[@ChaosCorona]

Hello! Sounds like a potential bug unfortunately. Could you please open up a thread over on our forums (forum.corona-renderer.com/) with a solid description of the issue so that our developers can have a look at it? Thank you! Nejc

[@massivechafe]

Only one feature is missing - custom user-managed libraries to save/browse load assets and scatter presets

[@ChaosCorona]

For feature requests and suggestions, please head to the forums to share - the developers can't monitor KZbin comments :) forum.corona-renderer.com/index.php - thanks! Tom

[@mohamedzgueb5080]

is it me or the scatter doesnt work with spline exclude when its on 1D-on spline mode ?

[@ChaosCorona]

Hi! You are correct, this is a known issue at present, though it is being worked on and will be fixed in a future release. Hope this helps! Tom

[@majklnajt1772]

Can it be scattered over object and using different object IDs? Or do you need to split the original mesh into different parts?

[@ChaosCorona]

Not sure what you are trying to achieve here, would be better with some image examples (which would mean posting on the forum, a better place for sharing advice back and forth: forum.corona-renderer.com/index.php?board=29.0) You can't set up scatter to only scatter on particular material ids, but you can use spline include or excludes, or even maps, which would achieve effects like only scattering on particular places on an object. As mentioned, since not sure exactly what you had in mind, I am not sure if those solutions would be preferable to, say, splitting the mesh into different parts and only scattering on those parts :) Hope this helps, though, and if you want to share example images, do please post over on the forums to continue the conversation! Thanks! Tom

[@_asimpleman]

Very cool feature. Can I use this feature to scatter lights or is it limited to only trees and similar objects?

[@ChaosCorona]

You should be able to scatter pretty much anything you like - if you find something you want to scatter that doesn't work, head over to the Feature Requests and let us know! forum.corona-renderer.com/index.php?board=53.0 - thanks! Tom

[@dominykaszakrys3373]

ForestPack: "Finally, a worthy opponent !"

[@ChaosCorona]

I don't know why but this comment made me picture something like a Pokemon battle, or "A wild Chaos Scatter appears!". Tom

[@CrazyJampBoy]

In IToo Mulriscatter has "border behavior". Does CSc have something like that?

[@ChaosCorona]

Best bet is to ask on the forums at forum.corona-renderer.com/index.php?board=29.0 - the support team who will have the answers can't monitor KZbin comments. Thanks! Tom

[@augusto_mm]

Not sure if in time but I know that you can use a corona map called edgetrimming in the opacity slot of the material of the object you are scattering (need to be in all of them) kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYe5epecn7RgjMU

[@CrazyJampBoy]

@@augusto_mm oh, thanks. I will try. I decided it by copying object, make spline and add it to spline exclude.

[@SanOcelotl]

Is this going to be a corona exlusive tool?

[@ChaosCorona]

It used to be called Corona Scatter... and now it's not called that any more. Thanks! Tom

[@oissac010885]

I can not activate in "geometry" the "chaos". That is, I can not activate the scatter. Can someone help me?

[@ChaosCorona]

Hi! KZbin comments are not a good place to give help - best thing to do is post in the "I Need Help" section of the forums where support will see it, and where you can share screengrabs (or we can share them :) ) to explain what is going on, show solutions, etc. forum.corona-renderer.com/index.php?board=29.0 (or alternatively, you can open a ticket at support.chaos.com/requests/new ). We would need more information whichever option you choose, as I am not clear what is meant by cannot activate geometry - can you say which step you were following, share a screenshot of your set up (or the scene itself, especially with a ticket where the scene can be shared privately), you could even give the timestamp in the video to show which step you were following that didn't work. Hope this helps! Tom

[@fernandorobertodossantos8038]

the menu of chaos scatter is not showing here, does anyone know how to fix it?

[@ChaosCorona]

Howdy! That sounds like something might have went wrong during the installation process. We would recommend reinstalling Corona 8 and if that doesn't work please get in touch with out support team (support.chaos.com/hc/en-us/requests/new). Nejc

[@seanfunk6372]

How does this affect RAM usage?

[@ArchiDrawED]

i have been having problems when using chaos scatter on displacment maps, they dont quite work properly , when increasing the value of the displacement map, the scattered objects dont follow the correct value added, in forest pack they can control it hopefully we also get that in the next update

[@ChaosCorona]

Hi! Developers can't monitor KZbin comments - please can you post the information over on the forums (forum.corona-renderer.com/index.php ) or via ticket (support.chaos.com/requests/new ) as that way it would reach the support and dev teams - we'd need more info, such as which version of Corona, of Scatter, which host software, preferably a scene and breakdown of steps followed, since this could be a bug as much as it could be a feature request. Thanks! Tom

[@yhbbandara8763]

is there any way to use chaos scatter for corona 7

[@ChaosCorona]

Hi! Due to the necessary under the hood changes Chaos Scatter only works with Corona 8 and newer. As a 3ds Max you do have access to Corona Scatter in Corona 7 - it's not as advanced obviously but hopefully it can help you. Nejc

[@oojw1]

Please add corona to the chaos collection (without increasing the price...what?).

[@ChaosCorona]

Thank you for the suggestion - we can't say if this could happen or might never happen, but we appreciate the suggestion and hearing what people would like to see. Thanks! Tom

[@lesterp.6967]

COSMOS is compatible with CORONA?

[@ChaosCorona]

Indeed it is :) You should be able to open it up by simply clicking on the Cosmos icon in the Corona toolbar. Nejc

[@lesterp.6967]

@@ChaosCorona thank you so much! it worked!

[@dubtube6691]

anything planed for Maya?

[@ChaosCorona]

There are no plans to develop Corona for anything than the current two supported applications, sorry. Tom

[@dubtube6691]

@@ChaosCorona Not Corona, I meant the scatter tool. Or ist it only for Corona? I thought for Vray 6 for 3ds Max am well

[@Arx-ideya]

bu videoni yuklab bo'lmayabdiku... 😭😭😭

[@bobofat2545]

your scatterer has stopped working GJ... crashes my vscenes, the normal max scatterr works fine

[@ChaosCorona]

We are really sorry to hear that you're having issues with Chaos Scatter. We'd really recommend you get in touch with our support team (support.chaos.com/hc/en-us) as they will be able to dive deeper into the issue and get this thing resolved for you. Nejc

[@ilepokar3196]

Use HDRI CORONA . SUN. ?????

[@ChaosCorona]

Sorry, I don't understand the question - can you share more details about what you would like to know?

[@makimake417]

Why do you all ignore Area > Spline includes? 😂

[@ChaosCorona]

Sorry, I don't understand the question - can you share more details? Thanks! Tom

[@justinjoseph8188]

🥰🥰

[@pratty911]

This guys accent is out.of.control

[@ChaosCorona]

A perfectly normal accent, depending where in the world you come from :) Thanks! Tom

[@zameelhz9873]

Add gpu rendring

[@ChaosCorona]

There are no plans to add GPU rendering to Corona, sorry. Tom

[@hoseinpublic]

Could you please speak a little more slowly in the tutorials, sir? thank you

[@ChaosCorona]

Thank you for the feedback! We will take this into consideration. Best regards! Tom

[@Travisb238]

Bye bye iToo Software. You won't be missed.