Charade 1959 - Stirling Moss

[@TEC_Stuff]

Wow, amazing footage of just how brazen and talented racers of that era were. No safety barriers, and you had to dodge corner workers sweeping the track mid-race. Fantastic driving, and oh those motors sang! RIP Sir Stirling Moss, Godspeed!

[@katookat]

The commentator actually says that Ivor Bueb did not survive the injuries sustained in this accident (quite shocking to see this close up of a fatally injured man), and that the audacity and perseverance that marked Jean Behra also in this race, would cost him his life a week later in the next race.

[@davyboy888]

He wasn't killed at the scene. He died 6 days later in hospital as a result of his injuries... but the disregard for what was a very seriously injured person is utterly shocking.

[@375GTB]

TRULY SICK!

[@Miatacrosser]

@@davyboy888 it's not really that much better today. I've seen races where the driver isn't unbuckling or taking the wheel off after a heavy impact and they stand next to car and don't even lean in and see if he's okay.

[@thethirdman225]

C Wilson Those idiots had no concept of how to handle a seriously injured person. For all they knew he had cervical injuries yet they literally dropped him on his head at one point. I felt ill watching it. Why they could wait for an ambulance - admittedly, they were pretty casual about such things in those days - is beyond me.

[@ericacarradus9152]

@@Miatacrosser If a driver isn't moving and you're a race Marshall without medical training then leave them until the medical team arrive.

[@yvanpedron5255]

C'est absolument formidable de voir tout cela .... N'oubliez pas de numériser tous ces instants vous mêmes...... !

[@miguelvictoria26]

RIP Stirling Moss and Ivor Bueb

[@AlonsoRules]

a breathtakingly spectacular yet incredibly dangerous circuit

[@simonbarrett6059]

Seems incredibly dangerous but only two fatalities in all the time it was in use, up to 1988. Two is too many but compared to Spa, Nurburgring or Isle of Man TT...

[@fw1421]

A tribute to a great driver and a grand era of racing.

[@JardaAndriessen]

RIP Stirling Moss.

[@rogerlephoque3704]

One of the greats, to my mind a racing driver without equal in the history of the sport. Did you notice how he "waved" aside the portly starter as he dropped the flag? Unfortunately, we never got to hear the expletives ...

[@oldtimer7635]

How about Ivor Bueb who had horrible crash on that video, and died six days later, at the age of 36?!

[@polcommwatcher]

Holy shit. Most graphic F1 accident result I've seen on film, besides Bandini. Bueb died several days later. Skillful evacuation from track.... Brutal.

[@namiboosterhuizen6610]

Ivor Bueb, the driver that died, won the 1955 Le Mans 24 hour race where 55 people died, after Levegh swerved to miss his car whilst Hawthorn was driving it. Ivor also raced a Connaught once for Bernie Ecclestone at the 1958 British GP.

[@mrnice30001]

That music...I gone...

[@NoosaHeads]

Sadly, Ivor Bueb died 6 days later. (Bueb won the 1955 Le Mans race with Mike Hawthorn). Bueb was the only _car_ fatality they've ever had at Charade. (but there was one motorcycle fatality)

[@yvanpedron5255]

Oui la culture est là !

[@pierrecantagrill5490]

Merci beaucoup

[@pieroviet280]

Mais quelle élégance dans les commentaires !

[@375GTB]

Ivor Léon John Bueb (6 June 1923 - 1 August 1959) was a British professional sports car racing and Formula One driver from England. Born in East Ham, Essex, Bueb started racing seriously in a Formula Three 500cc Cooper in 1953, graduating to the Cooper works team in 1955 when he finished second in the British championship. He made occasional starts in Grands Prix in 1957 with a Connaught and a Maserati run by Gilby Engineering. The following year he raced Bernie Ecclestone's Connaught at Monaco, and drove a Formula Two Lotus at the German Grand Prix. In 1959 he had two outings for BRP, firstly a non-qualification at Monaco, then another Formula Two entry at the British Grand Prix. He participated in six Formula One World Championship Grands Prix in all, but scored no championship points. He also participated in numerous non-Championship Formula One races. With the death of Archie Scott Brown at Spa in May 1958, Brian Lister hired Bueb to fill the now-vacant Lister-Jaguar driver's seat. Bueb did an admirable job, scoring several first places at tracks such as Crystal Palace and Goodwood during the 1958 and 1959 sports car campaigns. Bueb is perhaps best known for sharing the winning works Jaguar D-type with Mike Hawthorn in the 1955 24 Hours of Le Mans which was marred by an accident in which 82 spectators were killed; a success he repeated with Ron Flockhart in the ex-works Ecurie Ecosse car in 1957.[2][3][4] He suffered serious injuries in 1959 when he crashed his BRP Cooper-Borgward Formula Two car at the Charade Circuit near Clermont-Ferrand, France. He crashed at Gravenoire, a multiple apex-section at the very far end of the circuit, and was thrown out of his Cooper. He died six days later at a hospital near the circuit. It was Ivor Bueb's death, in conjunction with Archie Scott Brown's demise, that finally led Brian Lister to shut down his very successful sports car racing effort.

[@michelvigneres7033]

we must not forget that the two leaders Stirling Moss and Chris Bristow badly crashed themselves at Spa Francorchamps less than two years later.... Behra died one week after Charade race, and Harry Schell just a few time after.... Dangerous days....

[@Davyfb75]

Harry Schell died at Abby Curve Silverstone during practice

[@jamesanderton344]

Horrific footage of poor Bueb. Flimsy cars, poor circuit safety, no harness. Just tragic.

[@375GTB]

No harness Drivers wished to be thrown out. Rolling BOMBS! Sitting IN the gas tank in rear engined cars. No fuel cells Rubber Fuel bladders in Lotus only.... Riveted tanks.... A diffrent era... Dick Seaman was trapped in his W-154 Mercedes at Spa, 1939 by the jammed removable steering wheel... Archie Scot-Brown would die the same way in his Lister Jaguar, 1959 FIRE was most feared death in WWI and WWII Why pilots carried pistols J.C.

[@GTE_Channel]

Golden age of motor racing. Real men, real cars

[@Hithere-ek4qt]

Agree - no computers to control everything. The races are faster now but also so BORING.

[@thethirdman225]

I knew there would be at least one idiot.

[@ernestogasulla7763]

And real death. Way too often.

[@thethirdman225]

@@ernestogasulla7763 Exactly. It always amazes me that there are people out there who think things were somehow better when people got killed. They make me sick. We brought in the regulations to make racing safer. We're not going back.

[@tabstabs1204]

I wonder what car is this at 9:02, number 26 a Porsche, a F2 ?? In that race at 06:45 Bueb died. One week later Behra died in Germany, and one month later Harry Shell in England !!

[@tallesttreeintheforest]

these older long track were so much better than the small 90 second loops we have to today

[@chrispenn715]

What a fantastic film - apart from the awful film of the crash. Those straw bales seem to make the circuit more dangerous too. And that music.....

[@375GTB]

ALL BUT MY LIFE!

[@samgangi5990]

The ragtime is perfect fitting music. Every time I hear it I think of rapid mechanical motion. Makes me drive faster, work faster, run faster. Theres a reason the wwI and even some of the wwii generation loved it. People complaining it doesn't fit know nothing of actual history. The boogie woogie on the other hand... Not my cup of tea but it fits since this is the 50's and also symbolizes rapid motion.

[@rogerlephoque3704]

"know nothing of actual history". The visuals are an episode of the history of motor-racing, with its attendant dangers and loss of life. Evidently you are not deaf. Are you blind or something?

[@samgangi5990]

@@rogerlephoque3704 This music symbolizes speed. Speed with mechanical parts that couldn't handle the tremendous force being put on them. These drivers knew the risks and willingly took them to race each other. They lived and died by speed so music that symbolizes speed fits perfectly. I'm guessing you're deaf and blind to not realize this solemn truth.

[@PaulHussey01]

RIP Ivor Bueb. Três triste. Une accident horrible. Il méritait mieux que d'être traîné hors de la piste comme un sac de pommes de terre. Je ne blâme pas les commissaires, ce n'est pas de leur faute - la culture de la sécurité à cette époque était inexistante. Il n'avait même pas de casque qui pouvait rester. Tant de courageux pilotes (et des spectateurs innocents) ont perdu inutilement à l'époque. Mais c'était comme ça. Course dimanche, espoir de vendre des voitures de route lundi, funérailles mardi. Répéter. RIP poor Ivor Bueb. He deserved better than to be dragged off the track like a sack of spuds. I dont blame the marshals, its not their fault - the culture of safety in those days was a joke. HANS device? He even have a helmet that could stay on. So many brave drivers (and innocent spectators) lost their lives unnecessarily back then. But that’s how it was. Race on Sunday, hope to sell road cars on Monday, funeral on Tuesday. Repeat.

[@bebertbaboulinet1415]

Oui c'est choquant on dirait les jeux du cirques avec les gladiateurs.

[@jeanmi6426]

@@bebertbaboulinet1415 quelle époque ! La on pouvait pas dire qu'on était pas près des voitures ! Mais les pilotes ainsi que tout le monde autour du circuit en avait "des grosses" ! Mais les gens étaient plus heureux quand même je pense !🥴👍

[@rolandgerard6064]

Merci.

[@philippecoudert5730]

Incroyable que l équipage du Mans 55 sur la jaguar (origine du drame) ce sont tués à 6 mois d intervalle 4ans plus tard

[@rogerlephoque3704]

Sur la Mercedes-Benz....

[@Antifogasta]

Wonderful circuit - very non-PC!. This was the year before I went to University and the drivers were heroes.What they do now is extremely difficult, (the cars are very hard to drive) but it doesn't look difficult which is a shame because it takes all of the excitement away. The simple cure is to reduce down-force so that the cars move about more but they seem very reluctant to do that, I don't know why?

[@Miatacrosser]

Well you seem to have gotten here just before me. Care to share what circuit this is? It's a French broadcast but this is not Rheims nor do I believe this is Monsanto and I know it isn't any of the rest of the circuits they raced in the 1959 f-1 season with possibly Zandvort or if I had to go out on a limb, it looks like Clermont-Ferrond. But the 1959 French GP was held at Rheims that year. I'm confused.

[@Antifogasta]

@@Miatacrosser Hi! The commentator says that its the "Circuit Charade" I think that it's Clermont Ferrand. Hang on .... I've just looked it up in Wikipedia and here it is: "The Circuit de Charade, also known as Circuit Louis Rosier and Circuit Clermont-Ferrand" I never raced there and looking at the dangers i (now!) think that it's just as well. All good wishes.

[@antoinechevalier397]

The circuit is just near to my house and the night we do drive on this circuit with my friend

[@philtre]

I agree with the awfull sound (music and comment) but it seems to be the original one. The video's quality is very good, much better than in the period 1970-90 where it seems the conservation of videos don't exist. So, in a few year, young people will forget Senna, Prost, Lauda, and many others, because they will not be able to see them on a screen...

[@maneki9neko]

Wonderful rare Formula 2 film footage.

[@mooreanonumbers]

Ivor Bueb was, to this day, the only driver ever to die at Charade, somehow.

[@rogerlephoque3704]

The circuit has been disused for decades.

[@mooreanonumbers]

​@@rogerlephoque3704 The old circuit closed down in the late 1980s. The current circuit is still used today to my knowledge.

[@roxy2l2s]

Malheureux Ivor Bueb.

[@lucarnetrange]

L'absence totale de sécurité est complètement aberrante, que ce soit le circuit qui semble avoir été découpé à flanc de montagne avec de quoi se tuer à chaque virage, l'absence de ceinture de sécurité qui garantissait une éjection à chaque accident, les gendarmes qui soulèvent M. Bueb blessé par les bras et les jambes (au lieu d'amener le brancard), on a l'impression que c'est une parodie. Mais il y a un blessé grave à 6:40 (il décédera 6 jours plus tard), un autre qui se tuera la semaine suivante, et l'autre en septembre… C'était n'importe quoi.

[@dougauzene8389]

Godspeed, Sir Stirling...l KNOW My Mom Was Among The First To Greet Him! ;-)

[@Hithere-ek4qt]

Greet him where? He is dead. Heaven and hell are just superstitious beliefs from ancient fictional stories.

[@lionelrosiere2062]

Avec l'unique accident mortel sur le circuit, avec Bueb. Hors les malheureux commissaires fauchés dans les années 1980.

[@Thouveninpascal]

à 6:56 évacuation du blessé façon guerres napoléoniennes, pas un brancard.

[@daleskidmore1685]

Why bring the stretcher to the man when you can carry the man to the stretcher. Fortunately things have changed for the better. It was not nice seeing Bueb being hauled away like that.

[@Thouveninpascal]

@@daleskidmore1685 En cas de fracture de la colonne vertébrale, c'est la mort assurée. Le circuit est dangereux, les voitures sont dangereuses, les secours sont dangereux. In the event of a fracture of the spine, death is guaranteed. The circuit is dangerous, cars are dangerous, rescue is dangerous.

[@azypk]

Une autre époque

[@mvmallinson]

Who puts that effing music on !!!

[@samgangi5990]

Much better than the bland generic hollywood orchestra music they would use today. Not too keen on boogie woogie but ragtime fits perfectly with racing. Also doubt they could've recorded the live engine noises to sound even half decent. Hell, just listening to ragtime in my car makes me speed every time. Makes me do anything including manual labor much faster, it symbolizes and induces rapid motion therefore it's perfect racing music. The boogie woogie doesn't do it for me though.

[@museorpheo]

+ de 100000 vues. Merci à vous tous. Thank you

[@matthewgartner2998]

It looks like Bueb was left in agony in the back of a car instead of rushing him off to a hospital?

[@DL-ls5sy]

The circuit has not many road...It's impossible to go to Clermond Ferrand without stopping the race..So they have made a choice.

[@vheggem]

Sadly, he died six days later in a local hospital.

[@oldtimer7635]

Different time!

[@promotedfacepulling2913]

Was the tarmac newly laid?

[@jeromebeauverd1725]

Yes, the track was brand new, open the year before.

[@electrobugerman]

What a cruel sport it was in mid XX century. Once a car got wrecked the driver is the victim. But wait.. He was seriously injured and those guys simply carried him like a bag of potatoes. Music playing like nothing bad happens. It's just cruel.

[@ThomasD1962]

Yes,that was quite sobering. I was actually enjoying it 'till that part. But then again: that was the reality in those days. Remember Le Mans '55, over 70 dead and they didn't stop the race?

[@chriswilliams9976]

The man who died there was Ivor Beub who ironically won that Le Mans race in 55

[@900108Chale]

Those were the times... NOT saying they acted accordingly, BUT yes people back then were much more used to seeing corpses, remember all of them were WW2 survivors or witnesses. AND most did understand that drivers were willing to risk their lives for doing what they loved. It was not until WE, the audience started for feel bad for them that things started to change. Especially when WE the audience tarted to become victims of their incidents. All in all those were Heroes willing to risk their lives for beating a record or gaining a position. The public understood it an honored their guts, BUT that did not mean they needed to morn for someone that voluntarily risked his life. Death was so much more a part of life than today. Better to die as a hero than to die in vain...

[@SkythontheBrony]

@@chriswilliams9976 Strangely both winning drivers of Le Mans 1955 died in 1959 through car related incidents on and off track.

[@chriskelleher349]

Televised races brought 💰 money and greater safety. It continues. 🙏

[@marilyn-robertvanwegen8291]

Good

[@hovogliadileggere]

this is not motorsport, this is motor-balls

[@Pete-z6e]

Smoking in the pits, sitting on the outside of corners,.......those were the days! .

[@Stealthbong]

Is this the French Grand Prix? According to Wiki, the 1959 French GP was held at Reims.

[@375GTB]

A Non-championship event Bueb was driving a F-2 Cooper Climax..

[@walterpepekay787]

The commentator says it's a F2 race, in Clermont Ferrand.

[@ernestogasulla7763]

Not a F1 race at all. It's F2. Until the early 70s it was common for F1 drivers to race in F2.

[@pieroviet280]

Le god save the king retentis.....

[@375GTB]

Quelle Horrors!

[@DL-ls5sy]

10mn 54..God save the King ! ?!

[@thibaut2761]

Que de décès

[@paulwilliams2080]

That stupid music making a mockery of it all. It's like the bloody Benny Hill show!

[@375GTB]

TRULY SICK!

[@dkendr6793]

So many of these old racing clips have idiot music set to them .@@375GTB

[@Antifogasta]

Its the music of the time. hot jazz as played by Winifred Attewell.

[@Hithere-ek4qt]

@@Antifogasta SO? It is still inappropriate here.

[@Antifogasta]

@@Hithere-ek4qt If its the music of the time, how can it be inappropriate?

[@bardamu72]

juste avant ça , je regardais la course a DARLINGTON en 1957 , le "grand national " stock cars , ça fait tout marrant , y a comme un décalage

[@375GTB]

DAMNED MUSAK!

[@samgangi5990]

The ragtime symbolizes and induces rapid motion. Therefore perfect MUSIC Fuck boogie woogie tho

[@jockellis]

What circuit is this and what year?

[@TheTheolm]

Circuit of Charade, southern-center France. 1959.

[@jockellis]

theo lm Thanks. Although I’ve been a road racing fan and a follower of F1 from the time I bought my first Peterson’s Sportscar Graphic Magazine in 1964 until 7 April 1968, I had never heard of this circuit.

[@TheTheolm]

@jockellis You're welcome. Here is further infomation : - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_de_Charade - charade.fr/fr/circuit-de-charade/historique/ - kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4OqgnSJo7l9sKc (comments are in French, - kzbin.info/www/bejne/i5mkZ6hrlpJpnqM you better activate English subtitles) and so on.

[@RallyeRacin9]

@@jockellis You will know the circuit under the name Clermont-Ferrand. The last F1-GP was held there in 1972.

[@jockellis]

RallyeRacin9 ok, I had heard of this one.

[@jeanhugues5601]

6:56 Si le pauvre gars était juste blessé, là c'est sur, les flics l'ont achevé

[@ikaztt85johnson83]

Cette scène m'est apparue moyenâgeuse, tout comme l'ensemble du reportage en fait. Ils l'ont en tout cas très probablement bien abîmé. Ce n'est pas sûr qu'ils soient "responsables de sa mort" dans le sens où il devait ensuite être pris en charge par une unité de soins, suivant là où a eu lieu l'accident, le trajet en ambulance était long. Je ne sais pas si tu connais le lieu : descente en ville par la route de montagne. Je ne sais pas s'il y avait des hélicos, je ne pense pas. Je suis ému car en plus j'aime bien ce lieu.

[@kevinoneil7532]

Ivor Bueb died from that accident 6 days later

[@proofbox]

Believe it or not F-1 did not require seat belts until 1965

[@peterlovett5841]

They were not mandatory until long after that. Clark's fatal crash in 1968 started them thinking of seat belts as some thought he would have survived had he been wearing them but until the requirement for contained fuel tanks made monocoque construction mandatory then seat belts became common. Up until then many drivers felt it preferable to be thrown out of the car in a crash than get trapped in what could easily become a burning wreck.

[@daleskidmore1685]

@@peterlovett5841 Even today, vintage cars don't have to run with belts if they don't have roll over bars. I had an Austin 7 roll at my post at Brands a few years ago and the driver ducked down across the passenger seat. He was fine.

[@kevinmartin9775]

A drivers biggest fear then was fire. They’re preference was to be thrown clear of the car.

[@rs660alec]

those clifs lol

[@カブトムシ-c6s]

Porsche 718 !?

[@Pete-z6e]

Classic Hero BRISTOL 450LM ,oui,,!

[@magicsenna3455]

C'est moi ou les commentaires de cette vidéo ne sont pas d'origines? 😐

[@TheTheolm]

Probablement car le commentateur connaît la mort proche de quelques pilotes.

[@Anquedor]

Pauvre Bueb! Transporté sans précaution comme un sac de pomme de terre, par des "gendarmes " incompétents, il fini tristement sa vie !

[@alaincourthiade4760]

Amusant les commentaires délicieusement désuets

[@samgangi5990]

Anyone who thinks ragtime and racing don't go together are absolute morons with no sense of history or taste in music. I bet some of your favorite old drivers listened to it from a young age visualizing and developing a love for speed and racing which made them who they were. Generic sad Hollywood music doesn't belong here. These men lived by and died by speed, the music should symbolize that.

[@jackypichat4724]

y etaient un peu fous a cette epoque sans aucune securité

[@guybenett7764]

La musique de film muet...😂

[@bruniau]

Y a eu un mort mais boff...

[@keyboarddancers7751]

Think about it, virtually everybody in this whole film is probably dead now; just goes to show the dangers of motor racing.

[@Hithere-ek4qt]

No need for the annoying, repetitive music.

[@maneki9neko]

probably the original sound track for the film. the sound may not have been synchronized. while we hear the sound of motors, that may have been recorded separate and patched in . .

[@samgangi5990]

Much better than the bland generic hollywood orchestra music they would use today. Not too keen on boogie woogie but ragtime fits perfectly with racing. Also doubt they could've recorded the live engine noises to sound even half decent. Hell, just listening to ragtime in my car makes me speed every time. Makes me do anything including manual labor much faster, it symbolizes and induces rapid motion therefore it's perfect racing music. The boogie woogie doesn't do it for me though.

[@rogerlephoque3704]

Much of the film action is speeded up. Evidently someone with little or no knowledge, or understanding of motor racing has got their grubby hands on this.

[@MiguelBaptista1981]

You can clearly see the spectators movements are in normal speed to compare with the cars. No speed up with this footage whatsoever.

[@rogerlephoque3704]

@@MiguelBaptista1981 I beg to differ. Would you like to borrow my glasses? The spectators' movements are jerky!

[@ducciocastelli7560]

quelle musique idiote

[@paulhammersley4562]

nice car's, for god's sake remove the stupid music,

[@samgangi5990]

For God's sake remove your shitty half baked guitar music paul