The Most Expensive Cable | Teardown of Apple Thunderbolt 4 Pro Cable (1.8 m)

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Introduction
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It has been a year and a half since Intel announced the Thunderbolt 4.
And Apple finally released its Thunderbolt 4 cable after the spring event.
It can be divided into 1.8 m and 3 m, and priced at $159 and $129, respectively.
The 3 m is still unavailable.
So, we got the 1.8 m and took it apart to check why it can be so expensive.
Bill of materials (BOM)
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Intel Thunderbolt ReTimer chip: JHL7040
E-marker chip: Infineon CYPDC1186
Step-down chip: MPS
Diode: ON Semiconductor
Chapter
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0:00 Intro
0:43 Unboxing
1:41 Cable
3:23 Connector
5:59 Summary
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@DavidG2P
@DavidG2P 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure this cable has about 1,000 times the processing power of the Apollo moon landing capsule control computer
@engineerbot
@engineerbot 2 жыл бұрын
@Hugohopser I think it was a joke
@elektrokinesis4150
@elektrokinesis4150 2 жыл бұрын
the lightning to 3.5mm adapter is though
@challenger2205
@challenger2205 2 жыл бұрын
Those hand-made magnet N-gates didn't age well, aren't they.
@1825OREO
@1825OREO Жыл бұрын
What moon landing?
@lbgstzockt8493
@lbgstzockt8493 8 ай бұрын
I think it’s a bit unfair to compare an ASIC to a pretty general purpose computer, but your point still stands.
@TrashLock
@TrashLock 2 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable what they put in cable nowadays.
@ThioJoe
@ThioJoe 2 жыл бұрын
Just got my 3 meter one in the mail. Bought it because it's literally the only Thunderbolt 4 cable available longer than ~2 meters, which is not long enough to reach from where I have my TB4 dock to the computer. I have been using a supposedly "premium" 3 meter TB3 cable in the mean time, and it sucked. The dock would disconnect and Windows wouldn't see any connected devices unless I restarted (even if I unplugged and plugged everything back in). Problem completely went away with this new cable. Worth the price.
@ChargerLAB
@ChargerLAB 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear. We've also took apart 3m version: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYGbg5qoqJpkr8k
@dark_cobalt
@dark_cobalt 18 күн бұрын
Bro what did you expect when you're trying to use ultra high bandwith cable that is way to long. You loose bandwith.
@alphamale068
@alphamale068 Жыл бұрын
I have bought two of these cables now and in both cases the use of such a high quality cable has fixed really annoying problems that I was having with other 'expensive' TB4 cables - first problem was periodic glitching connecting a Mac mini M1 to a 5k2k monitor at 72Khz - and the second problem was connecting a MacBook Pro to a doc about 2m away supporting multiple devices and a 10GbE adapter - different problems with this setup on most days - put up with them for a about 6 months - then bought this cable - has been perfect ever since. I'm convinced.
@kisan_thapa
@kisan_thapa 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, I am convinced that the cable can be that much expensive.
@cockroach9694
@cockroach9694 2 жыл бұрын
Wait till you know about 1000$ audiophile snake oil power cables.
@Spencer067
@Spencer067 2 жыл бұрын
@@cockroach9694 thats really cheap for a snake oil cable. Some can cost well over $10k
@cockroach9694
@cockroach9694 2 жыл бұрын
@@Spencer067 yeah the abyss cables can go up to that
@VSN1001
@VSN1001 2 жыл бұрын
This is probably one of the most complex cables I have seen in consumer electronics
@tamiolson
@tamiolson 2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos. Great videos. You are really passionate about what you do. Hope one day - Apple hires you.
@Rocket_rr3
@Rocket_rr3 Ай бұрын
Exactly the video I was looking for!
@youandiryan
@youandiryan 2 жыл бұрын
This is a so cool!!! Thank you for the awesome video. I absolutely love this kind of video
@nickb5091
@nickb5091 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review! Succinct with no fluff. Love it!
@leekayle1832
@leekayle1832 2 жыл бұрын
it`s Great Teardown! very Good
@vasudevmenon2496
@vasudevmenon2496 2 жыл бұрын
Nice teardown video
@MrBlackhen
@MrBlackhen 2 жыл бұрын
Even the charger board is still beautiful.
@nicoladellino8124
@nicoladellino8124 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice video, TNX.
@mr.x.220
@mr.x.220 2 жыл бұрын
l love this channel
@MissingInPerson
@MissingInPerson 4 ай бұрын
great teardown.
@MrHuman0001
@MrHuman0001 2 жыл бұрын
apple puts every metal they can found on the periodic table of element into this wire
@81Nightro
@81Nightro Жыл бұрын
Perfect! thanks
@dylan609
@dylan609 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard there are issues using cables longer than 3 feet I think for egpu's due to data loss, could this cable be used for an egpu?
@googlereviewer1944
@googlereviewer1944 7 ай бұрын
Crazy expensive but it actually fixed thy TB4 power delivery problems I was having between my laptop and LG UltraWide monitor
@klayf_
@klayf_ 9 ай бұрын
thank you
@jjones7837
@jjones7837 Жыл бұрын
Well, that was enlightening.
@manisphere779
@manisphere779 2 жыл бұрын
You are good man.
@payambagheri6370
@payambagheri6370 4 ай бұрын
Awsome construction.
@InfectedSquid
@InfectedSquid 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your sucrefice for science
@l...
@l... 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for chapters Thank you for 50FPS
@TVCHLORD
@TVCHLORD 6 ай бұрын
Looks just like any other cable only costs $130 and doesn’t even do 240w like a $30 thunderbolt cable from cable matters
@thepaperboy9009
@thepaperboy9009 9 ай бұрын
It be interesting to compare to a cheap 3rd party; but Thunderbolt 4 certified cable and basic USB-C. I'm going to look for it in your other videos after this comment. 🙂
@elolddeinternet9502
@elolddeinternet9502 2 жыл бұрын
Guey vengo de reddit bro buen video eh
@roy1627
@roy1627 2 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for your hardwork
@pikachu5647
@pikachu5647 2 жыл бұрын
fascinating
@Voces.Influyentes
@Voces.Influyentes 3 ай бұрын
Apple saying, after your purchase you can't access the memory, this man accessing even Apple's conscience 😵‍💫
@applemagsafe
@applemagsafe 2 жыл бұрын
And daughter like because this video is cool and you spend so much money on this cable and it would be hard for you to cut it off so to pay tribute to that I also dropped a like
@CJT3X
@CJT3X 2 жыл бұрын
Shame they abandoned the fiber optic spec for thunderbolt, I wonder how much faster it could have gotten if PD wasn’t a concern
@ayyioad9467
@ayyioad9467 2 жыл бұрын
Of course 1 optic cable much 100x times faster than many copper
@goncaloferraz1569
@goncaloferraz1569 2 жыл бұрын
@@ayyioad9467 yeah but optic fiber is super fragile and can't be curled
@tebasnineone
@tebasnineone 2 жыл бұрын
yup they abandoned fiber optic spec, and it is for a Good Reason. "People are sloppy when handling cable" they bend it, stretch it, pinch it. if we put fiber spec on that, it will break on first week use.
@marcusbarnes5929
@marcusbarnes5929 Жыл бұрын
How does this compare to OWC thunderbolt 4 ?
@kossi2607
@kossi2607 Жыл бұрын
Seems to be a good audio cable if you need type c because of the shielding
@henrikpetersson3463
@henrikpetersson3463 7 ай бұрын
You are thinking analog audio which is very different from digital.
@MrEp5
@MrEp5 8 ай бұрын
And the data transfer speed is USB 2.0? Or do I need to get a 1TB smartphone pro to the ultimate MAXXX
@amberjones7253
@amberjones7253 2 жыл бұрын
Maxonar TB4 cable work fine.
@Argus10q
@Argus10q 2 жыл бұрын
now this is whats worth those prices
@McNibbler
@McNibbler 2 жыл бұрын
“Most expensive cable” Random fucking “high performance” HDMI cables from best buy entered the chat
@keertilather8847
@keertilather8847 11 ай бұрын
Can you tell whai is the function of crystal
@easiers
@easiers 2 жыл бұрын
ill stick with my beastly $1 cable
@Beterhans11
@Beterhans11 10 ай бұрын
can u do a cheaper Aliexprees thunderblot cable teardown? and compare to this standard apple cable?
@onlyvik
@onlyvik 5 ай бұрын
I bought one and compared it with my Acacis Thunderbolt cable. The speed is exaclty the same for a lot less money.
@rknapp12
@rknapp12 2 жыл бұрын
Is there any difference between this cable and the previous version Apple Thunderbolt 3 pro cable? Every statistic is identical…only difference I can tell is 1.8m vs 2m.
@mmllmmll22
@mmllmmll22 2 жыл бұрын
This one is "new" and uses highly optimised copper dug at moon. Thats only reason for its price. I would never pay 100$ for a single cable.
@nasimaakhter3887
@nasimaakhter3887 2 жыл бұрын
19 wires...! damn that cable is gonna be expensive...
@rodeo4339
@rodeo4339 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your service! -A humble copycat IP infringer somewhere in China
@AdityaKantKushwaha
@AdityaKantKushwaha 2 жыл бұрын
Oh Wow Future is here
@CHUDHUCKER
@CHUDHUCKER 9 ай бұрын
If I buy that Intel chip from Mouser, 2500pcs at a time, they are $4.44ea. That's retail pricing. So, all the other stuff are pennies really, so why does it cost as much as it does?
@ghfanish
@ghfanish 2 жыл бұрын
Sunderbolt?
@clashwithmoi8926
@clashwithmoi8926 2 жыл бұрын
my cat chewed the end of the thunderbolt cable on my dell dock, the other end is proprietary and will take $200 to get a replacement cable. I'm considering, stripping away the sheathing and realigning the 24 wires and sealing it shut.
@Coseco_Cat
@Coseco_Cat 2 жыл бұрын
dude brutally murdered the $160 cable );
@Sayedimg
@Sayedimg 2 жыл бұрын
My heart crying at 1:43
@ChargerLAB
@ChargerLAB 2 жыл бұрын
😜
@labiadh_chokri
@labiadh_chokri 2 жыл бұрын
nice teardown , but why they don't use tow copper wire for power and one or two optical fiber for data transfer , I think they will obtain more speed.
@PJ-vz1pu
@PJ-vz1pu 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe durability?
@lbgstzockt8493
@lbgstzockt8493 8 ай бұрын
Optical fibers are far too delicate for a cable sold to the general public. There are very bendable optical cables out there, but they are incredibly expensive.
@williamchen454
@williamchen454 2 жыл бұрын
Why do they put the pcb in the cable and not like .5 inches away in the thunderbolt devices? Just curious. This explains why these cables are so pricey
@WilsonRyan
@WilsonRyan 2 жыл бұрын
They are in both. It’s unnecessary for short cables though.
@onlyvik
@onlyvik 6 ай бұрын
Is the one meter version also active from Apple?
@sengoku0710
@sengoku0710 5 ай бұрын
Yes
@iggycygnus7430
@iggycygnus7430 Жыл бұрын
Ouch.😢
@basstest3638
@basstest3638 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@edinademovic4261
@edinademovic4261 2 жыл бұрын
This is an educational video for China to make a good copy of the cable
@piotrr.1972
@piotrr.1972 2 жыл бұрын
Can you run minecraft on this??
@jammies701
@jammies701 2 жыл бұрын
USB-IF certification?
@WilliamDean-nb2wq
@WilliamDean-nb2wq Жыл бұрын
RIP to this cable. Died before its time. It didn't even get to process one bit of video signal.
@user-yr5xg1jl3z
@user-yr5xg1jl3z Жыл бұрын
А на этот кабель можно установить Windows10? ...
@santiagocastano6099
@santiagocastano6099 2 жыл бұрын
Bro, I got a question, yerterfay I purchased an iphone 13 pro max, but I was wondering if I can charge this Phone with a 25 watts charger, I know that it can support a 30 watts charger, don't know if that is gonna harm the battery. Thanks man.
@flamingkillermc2806
@flamingkillermc2806 2 жыл бұрын
No it wont harm the battery, ios has charge limiters to stop over power charge.
@HikaruAkitsuki
@HikaruAkitsuki 2 жыл бұрын
There will be no simple device as cable. Apple Company: Not anymore.
@Carterthielftw_
@Carterthielftw_ 2 жыл бұрын
"iFixit repairability score of -10"
@PSM-IPADZ_OX
@PSM-IPADZ_OX 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks ChargerLab for this tear down of the very expensive APPLE TB 4 cable. Very obvious is that the APPLE TB 4 cable is of a very high quality, they even used brass with double welding to ensure connector stability. The cable insulating and shielding are over-engineered for optimal use. This APPLE TB 4 cable is sold as an after-market product unlike the DELL TB cable that you uploaded later. The individual cables are made up of many silver-coated and tin-coated copper wires which have excellent signal transmission capabilities. The individual strands of cables are also much thicker than that for the DELL TB cable. Most likely that this APPLE TB 4 cable will perform much much better than other 3rd party TB cables including the DELL TB as per specifications and will be useable with a longer lifespan and durability with its quality construction. If anyone need just one TB cable, it’s cost effective to just buy one APPLE TB 4 cable that perform to specs and last longer than to buy many lower quality TB cables that will fail, have intermittent signal transmission faults and will not last long. With this tear down, it is justifiable for APPLE to charge more. Great video
@brianwest2775
@brianwest2775 2 жыл бұрын
Good shielding but are the wires any larger diameter than cheaper cables? Are these the same chips in Apple's other cables? Why not do some performance tests before tearing down? (If in another video, link to it.) I think it's crazy that so many cables don't have strain relief that limits the bend radius at the connector. We all know that's where the majority of cables fail.
@JacobProbasco
@JacobProbasco 2 жыл бұрын
The strain-relief on Apple cables has been internalized within the end caps for about two years now.
@Lalitaditya100
@Lalitaditya100 2 жыл бұрын
So can this be used as a normal charging cable too?
@ChargerLAB
@ChargerLAB 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, definitely.
@taktuscat4250
@taktuscat4250 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is backwards compatible with USB 2 so even basic devices with usbc can use it
@AMalas
@AMalas 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but it's overkill. 5A cables are available for way cheaper
@imdyinginside1919
@imdyinginside1919 2 жыл бұрын
Yea but an expensive one
@numberIII-xv8xg
@numberIII-xv8xg Жыл бұрын
its a shame that this cable was not produce dinto 2 meter format, only 1.8 and 3 meters
@muhammadazkanaufal8695
@muhammadazkanaufal8695 2 жыл бұрын
That shit can turn on vga for sure
@mahmoudiamir
@mahmoudiamir 2 жыл бұрын
This cost , 10usd at most! But good job...
@SS-gw3cb
@SS-gw3cb 2 жыл бұрын
10usd?? You wont get bssic chinese type c cable at that price bro
@GIAHAN-audio
@GIAHAN-audio 2 жыл бұрын
Nice
@Artoooooor
@Artoooooor 2 жыл бұрын
damn... integrated circuits in connectors? Why not in the devices themselves?
@naivadhyagarg4755
@naivadhyagarg4755 2 жыл бұрын
Space issues as always in this world of making devices thinner and dic*s thicker
@Infigo96
@Infigo96 2 жыл бұрын
How do you know a cable can carry 45w charging...or 60...or 100 or 240w. Does the cable have lanes for alt mode at all (displayport, usb 3.2 gen 2x2 etc) or is it as stupid as an old usb2 cable? Does it have shielding for dp1.4? Or capabilities of tb3? That is why type c needs a chip. Not all cables need one but if you start using alt mode you definetly do. To identify capabilities if you start using functions which not the cheapest cables will ever be able to do
@WilsonRyan
@WilsonRyan 2 жыл бұрын
They already do. But decent signal integrity is harder to guarantee going through connectors, and even harder going through a long cable.
@adredy
@adredy 2 жыл бұрын
2:39 from when copper have silver colour ?
@ChargerLAB
@ChargerLAB 2 жыл бұрын
tinned copper wire, not silver copper.
@LSniumUwU
@LSniumUwU 2 жыл бұрын
Soon cables will have cameras an microphones.
@ChargerLAB
@ChargerLAB 2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@KangJangkrik
@KangJangkrik 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine cutting $130 cable
@itsd2388
@itsd2388 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine buying one..
@KangJangkrik
@KangJangkrik 2 жыл бұрын
@@itsd2388 ahh yess money spent well (i guess)
@detsu9176
@detsu9176 2 жыл бұрын
@@itsd2388 for high-end case use sure
@rign_
@rign_ 2 жыл бұрын
Some chinese startups: "I can make that cheaper!"
@codea4272
@codea4272 2 жыл бұрын
Snake oil audiophile cable says otherwise
@Sonderax
@Sonderax 2 жыл бұрын
still worth $50 max
@mattweger437
@mattweger437 2 жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder if USB4 will have chip hardware in the cable.
@mattweger437
@mattweger437 2 жыл бұрын
Wait is this cable usb4 compliant?
@mattweger437
@mattweger437 2 жыл бұрын
*confusion increases*
@Infigo96
@Infigo96 2 жыл бұрын
Usb4 is just usb 3.2 (all gen abrivations) + thunderbolt 3. Thunderbolt 4 is just a higher set of minimum requirements of thunderbolt 3 + some security (which can also exist on usb4/tb3 devices) Usb-c already require a chip for many things. Not sure where the line goes, if it is already at usb 2 speeds or 5/10 gigabit with only 5v 500ma/1a which don't require a chip. But i believe if you want displayport through it needs one, or charging etc
@mattweger437
@mattweger437 2 жыл бұрын
@@Infigo96 I don't think USBC charging needs a chip
@mattweger437
@mattweger437 2 жыл бұрын
@@Infigo96 it's negotiated by the charge controller on the device
@kermitrehab
@kermitrehab 2 жыл бұрын
4:30 - looks more like BC1782 to me but ok
@ChargerLAB
@ChargerLAB 2 жыл бұрын
It's 1762, we've confirmed this.
@jlelelr
@jlelelr 2 жыл бұрын
dog chewing resistance?
@boczekboczkowski5656
@boczekboczkowski5656 2 жыл бұрын
Jezus maria jakie gość ma pazury...
@terraboom
@terraboom 2 жыл бұрын
Wait until you heart about cables audiophiles buy for their setups, power cables for over $1000....
@andreyyy1320
@andreyyy1320 2 жыл бұрын
160 долларов :))) вот это прикол :)))
@azuli222
@azuli222 2 жыл бұрын
надо было написать сколько чипы стоят
@obiwanbill5506
@obiwanbill5506 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, great, I get that this is a tear down video, but what I really want to know is … “does it deliver performance?” I’ve been reading that MacOS has trouble delivering MAX thunderbolt performance. I would ❤️ love ❤️ to see this confirmed!
@augustogalindo8687
@augustogalindo8687 2 жыл бұрын
I read the Apple Silicon Mac are having issues on delivering full thunderbolt performance, but old Intel Mac work just fine. I hope it is something fixable by a software update.
@taidee
@taidee 2 жыл бұрын
The cable is good for delivery what is put through it from one device to another avoiding losses and crosstalk. It’s up to the computer it’s plugged into and accessories attached to bring high performance. A good cable should be like it doesn’t exist as far as other components in the chain are concerned, meaning that it should not add or take away any qualities from the devices it’s linking together.
@olivercollard8767
@olivercollard8767 2 жыл бұрын
This cable has better processed power than the Mac it’s plugged into!!
@Veriflon88
@Veriflon88 2 жыл бұрын
"We can see why this cable is so expensive" No, we can't! You can't say something like that without comparing to *any* other cable.
@Dr.Bernardo
@Dr.Bernardo 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not his fault you don’t have any knowledge about cables
@aman28june
@aman28june 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dr.Bernardo imagine defending a brand for free
@Dazdigo
@Dazdigo 2 жыл бұрын
i got a Cable Matters 0.8m Thunderbolt 4 cable because it was Intel Certified for $28. Sadly i am likely only use it as a usb-c 3.x cable.
@Gmon750
@Gmon750 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. This connector could be made out of solid platinum and it still won't stop the iHaters and trolls whining that they can buy a Chinese knockoff version for $5.
@Soulp75
@Soulp75 2 жыл бұрын
Me watching on android phone:
@MrFraiche
@MrFraiche 7 ай бұрын
Who else here is watching this video to minimize buyer’s remorse? 😂
@shri420gaming8
@shri420gaming8 2 жыл бұрын
MINI PC
@justlovekids
@justlovekids 2 жыл бұрын
👍🇵🇰
@mikewolf5367
@mikewolf5367 3 ай бұрын
I still wince every time they cut the cable. So expensive just to destroy it.
@ChargerLAB
@ChargerLAB 2 ай бұрын
😂
@fruitieplayys9125
@fruitieplayys9125 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: you can use a cheap usbc to usbc cable for a thunderbolt 4
@gamingtime4428
@gamingtime4428 Жыл бұрын
yeah no
@SebastianBala2005
@SebastianBala2005 2 жыл бұрын
Lol 19 wire
@bober1019
@bober1019 2 жыл бұрын
lol aluminin clad copper wires. Premium price for subpar quality. Thanks Apple
@rohithmekala2608
@rohithmekala2608 2 жыл бұрын
The cables are clad in tin-coated copper wires. It's not aluminum. The Dell 1.8 TB 4 cable uses aluminum. Please get the facts right.
@bober1019
@bober1019 2 жыл бұрын
@@rohithmekala2608 which facts? about the cable or generaly about apple charging a premium on products that are simply regular or sub par?
@SS-gw3cb
@SS-gw3cb 2 жыл бұрын
@@bober1019 dont change the topic bro. Answer him or dont bark shit without any knowledge
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