Charging Guidance for EV's and PHEV's - Kia Hyundai Class

Peter often gets asked about charging best practices for EV's and PHEV's. In this video, Peter shares his advice on what he does with his EV, and what you can do with your PHEV to care for the batteries while charging and living with these vehicles.
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[@richardcoughlin8931]

Thanks for covering the best practice for PHEVs. I drive a PHEV and have often wondered if It’s OK to pop up the charge every night. I typically run through the charge every day but I still use a minimal amount of gas except on road trips.

[@cetanpo]

As ev and phev kia vehicles owner I can only say .. very good and clear advices 👍

[@BrantfordKia]

Thanks for watching!

[@ManojPatel-oo3zd]

Thanks for the excellent video and tips on how best to charge EV and PHEV. Have used Mitsubishi PHEV for almost 7 years. Picking my new E Niro 4+ on coming Saturday. Will have to use a normal socket to charge the car for about 3 weeks then a new 7KV(level 2) charge point is being installed. Most of my driving is in town (London UK),so I will make sure my car batteries has 20 to 80% charge. Once again many thanks for all the videos that you make for us.👌👍

[@BrantfordKia]

Thanks for watching!! Feel free to subscribe for more!

[@RickEPage]

I have a 2021 Kona EV. It has an excellent battery management system (BMS) that pretty much eliminates the concerns of charging to 100%, even on a Level 3 charger. As an aside, owner's manuals on the UK say you can charge to 100% on Level 3. Batteries are only charged with DC current. Level 1 and 2 AC chargers are converted to DC by the onboard charger. The car controls the Level 3 charger and instructs it on the voltage and current so it will limit the current as full battery capacity is approached. The BMS actually begins to reduce the current at 60% state of charge. By 90%, the Level 3 charger may only be providing 7 kW or less - the same as Level 1 or 2.

[@MrStevegibb]

A BMS can not eliminate the concern of charging to 100% and spending too much time there that is a fundamental characteristic of the battery chemistry. However the BMS actually needs you to charger to 100% periodically. They can only balance the pack when getting near 100% to make it worse the BMS itself has parasitic draws that make a pack balance get worse and if it isn't allowed to get to the cells up to the voltage where the balancing circuity can start bleeding off current you could end up with a wildly out of balance pack.

[@FredOzzie]

Nice video, thank you. A couple questions/comments. (1) I've read that there is "headroom" above a 100% charge and below a 0% charge. I have a recently-purchased 2020 Niro PHEV. One day I started on a 46 mi. trip with 100% charge. The battery reported as low as 14% before regenerating on a hill. I've not (yet?) tried setting the EV/HEV Button button to "Automatic" Do you recommend this? (2) It seems wise to ensure some charging room for regeneration before descending a long hill. Likewise, reserving battery capacity for ascending a hill and perhaps using HEV mode for uphill. (3) Like others, I often limit charge to 80% if the car will sit, then top-up to 100% just before starting on a trip. (4) Is it wise to allow the battery to cool after a trip before charging and to cool after charging before leaving for a trip.

[@chris2km626]

Thank you for this video! keep up the great work!

[@BrantfordKia]

Thanks for watching!

[@tcohenlieberman]

Great video. Thanks!

[@halfpricesushi]

This was great. Thank you Peter!😀 As a suggestion, can you do one on just unhooking the charger in the middle of a charge? My charger locks up in that case and I have trouble unlocking it without using the app sometimes

[@chris2km626]

Use your unlock button on your key fob. It will unlock the charger at any point during a charge.

[@BrantfordKia]

Great question, I'll have to make a video on this. There are two hints that I can give you. There is a setting in the menu where you can set the charger cable to lock while charging, or unlock at all times, etc. I like to use the LOCK WHILE CHARGING function at a public charger, especially a pay charger, but when I'm at work or home, I always have the setting to unlocked at all times so that someone can unplug the charger even if they don't have my key. If you do find yourself unable to get the charge cable out because it's locked, just remember that if you ONLY unlock the driver's door, all other doors, AND the cable will still be locked to the car. If you unlock ALL the doors, your charge cable should then be unlocked, and you should be able to remove the cable. I hope that helps, and as I said, I'll do a video on this in the future.

[@raptorjdrc]

For our family needs, Mon-Fri we can charge the Sorento PHEV every other day, but weekends we deplete the battery almost twice a day. Since Québec currently has an interesting credit for a level 2 charger, I'm getting one!

[@ScrapKing73]

If you get the level 2 charger, try to take advantage of timed charging. That way the car isn’t sitting at a high charge level longer than necessary. Charging to 100% isn’t ideal, but if you’re always using it as soon as it hits 100% then that reduces the damage from charging it that high.

[@BrantfordKia]

@@ScrapKing73 Yeah, that's great advice!

[@smileymac8017]

On a PHEV is there any benefit to using a level 1 charger over the level 2 charger regarding battery degradation since the level 1 is slow charging with lower current?

[@PLSEMAIL]

Peter, Thanks for all these helpful videos. QUESTION: I bought a Kia Sorento 2022 PHEV 2 months ago in the US and I love it. When I drove my car off the lot, my range was 460 miles, fully loaded. I have filled my PHEV up with gas 3 times since then, but the total range on my indicator only shows 390, 383, and 336 total range. Even accounting for the a full ev battery at 100% would only give me 350-395 miles total range, far short of the 460 I had the first day. What is happening??

[@vannatea7632]

The computer has adjusted to your driving style. Do you have more of a heavy foot?

[@ScrapKing73]

Great advice! Keeping the charge level as close to the middle as you can is a beat practice in general. 20-80% is better than fully charging it, as you say. 30-70% is better still. And storing the car near 50% for sure, if you can. I’ll often charge up to 50% after use, and then let schedule the charge to top up to a higher charge level at the last convenient moment before use. I do this on both my e-bike and our e-car. Despite mostly only needing to do very short trips, we went with the long-range Kia Soul EV in part so that we could keep the charge level between 40-60%. The battery packs on modern day EVs are likely to last the life of the vehicle, but it’s a question of how much degradation and useful range you’ll have near the end of the vehicle’s life, and I knew the bigger the battery I got the gentler I could treat it. A bigger battery pack also suffers less degradation if and when you do need to fast-charge it (and re-gen braking is a form of fast-charging). And a bigger battery pack suffers less degradation from fast-discharge too, such as if you have to accelerate quickly for some reason, or have to regularly sustain high speeds on a highway. That (and the heads-up display) made it worth paying the extra for the top-trim Soul EV, at least in our case.

[@garyclark6747]

Getting it off your max percentage shorty after arriving is the only highlight I would recap. Heat and lithium aren’t friends and all these tips help in that regard.

[@BrantfordKia]

Yeah, I'm not sure if I fully agree with everything you say. I don't think you need to keep the battery at 50% most advice I hear is to keep it at 80% but again, I'm not the complete expert on this type of thing, the other thing that I probably should have pointed out, is that this isn't something people need to stress over. These are guidelines, not hard and fast rules that must be applied all the time.

[@BrantfordKia]

@@garyclark6747 Yes. That's the key.

[@ScrapKing73]

​@@BrantfordKia For Lithium batteries in general, not just EV batteries, the closer to 50% you store the battery the better. If it's going to be stored for a very long time (such as if you're a snowbird), perhaps store it a little closer to 60% to allow for some gradual drop in the state of charge. The reason to store it near 50% is the same as the reason to not charge it any higher than necessary. When lithium batteries are at a very high (or a very low) charge level the lithium starts plating the anodes. As more and more lithium plates the anodes it gets harder and harder for the cell to charge and discharge, until it simply can't anymore. However, it's logarithmic. 100% is much worse than 90%, which is much worse than 80%, which is much worse than 70%, etc.. 80% is a good compromise between getting a lot of use out of the battery, while still being a lot gentler on the battery than fully charging it. Less than 80% and people might be frustrated at how little of the battery they get to use, but more than 80% and the rate of battery aging ramps up significantly, so 80% is the sweet spot for many people. But if you're storing the battery, and not using it at all, there's no convenience factor to consider so having it between 50-60% is absolutely ideal. I agree that you shouldn't stress over this, though. It's good to understand this so you can decide what best practices are convenient for you. The high-voltage battery is likely to last the life of the car in a modern EV even if you "charge it like you stole it". It will just have more, or less, range late in the car's life depending on how well (or poorly) you treated it. :) I think the #1 best practice to recommend is to time the charging so that you start using the car right around the time the charging is finished. Store it at a medium-ish level of charge, and start the charging at the last convenient moment that still gives it enough time to hit the level you're targeting (whether that's 80%, 100%, or some other number), so that you're typically starting your journey right around the time the charge is finished. That way it's at a high levels of charge for only very short periods of time. The science says it's actually better for a lithium battery to be at 90% or even 100% for a very short period of time, than 80% for a long period of time. Emphasis on waiting until the last CONVENIENT moment, though. Whether it's an e-bike, an e-car, or what have you, these are tools to be used, not stressed over. I 100% agree with you on that. :)

[@ScrapKing73]

I would add that, especially for cold weather use, timing the charge to complete shortly before you head out on your journey has the added advantage of (all other things being equal) warming the battery more than just preconditioning alone does. So it's a double-win this time of year! :)

[@DarthFurball]

Great video. In the European market, is a wall plug (220V) considered Level 2?

[@GabrielSBarbaraS]

Doing some quick math here ( American ) , at 25 miles per gallon of gas is 12 cents per mile. At 12 cents per kilowatt hour and 300 watts per mile on electric, it is about 4 cents per mile, this equates to about 8 cents per mile on electric only. ( PEHV or EV ) that is a savings of $8000 per 100,000 miles. Now if I have to pay more than $8000 for a plug in verses a gas car, how can this be worth it.? Don’t forget a PHEV will operate the gas if the cabin needs heat and at some point you will use a little gas which skews the numbers somewhat. Please correct me if I am wrong.

[@garyclark6747]

One thing to consider when purchasing a Level 2 charger for the PHEV’s from Kia or Hyundai is to get one that is capable of the maximum amount of power either will receive. I can’t find what that is from the web page.🤷🏻You could get one that can charge even greater for those guests that may come by with their all battery electric (BEV) or to future proof your setup for a day that you may have an EV6 or IONIQ 5. I’ve heard it said that leaving an EV (BEV) at 40 to 50% for long-term storage is kinder to the battery set. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 Nice video tips‼️

[@louispaxton8336]

Excellent "class"!

[@BrantfordKia]

Thanks!

[@RickEPage]

The Kona EV has a 7.4 kW on board charger to convert Level 1 and 2 AC current to DC. 60 to 70% is safer for long term storage because leaving a dead battery without charging is the worst you can do.

[@jss455]

I just stumbled upon your post on a KIA PHEV site. I just recently purchased a 2023 PHEV Sportage. My question is whether or not it is a good idea not to fully charge the battery. This would be with a level 2-charger. Say the battery is down to 25% but you only have one hours worth of time to charge. Can go ahead and charge for that short of time or should the battery be filled up to 100%? Thank you very much and excellent video by the way!

[@wicker1234]

Great info. Have you received the Tuscon PlugIn yet? Apparently there is one only at a dealer on Vancouver Island but I am on the other end of the country and have been waiting since early July for mine .

[@BrantfordKia]

I haven't seen one yet, and to be honest, I haven't asked when I might see one. I know they're rare! As soon as I can see one, I'll do a video on it!

[@JacobWDalsager]

Very good rundown - no need to own a Kia PHEV/EV specifically to follow these guidelines :)

[@BrantfordKia]

Glad it was helpful!

[@garryford6439]

Well done, it's about time someone talked about the charging management issues associated with batteries and what an owner can do to minimize the degradation of the cells. Another good topic you could cover is the maximum power a vehicle is designed to take through a level 2 charging station. Some vehicles can only accept 30 amps at 240 volts well others can accommodate 50 amps using AC power. This topic could help owners select the best charging station for their vehicle and possibly save them a bit of money with the purchase of the station. I for one have not seen any manufacturers stating the maximum limits of their on-board AC to DC converters.

[@BrantfordKia]

I think we'll have a lot more EV specific videos in the future. Things like this video are designed to inform people, but also to start the conversation to see what we need to cover in the future.

[@msafari1993]

50amps at 240V will get you a charging rate of 12kW, this rate of charge can fill up a 60kWh battery in 5 hours while we park out cars for much longer than this, also you only fill up the battery fully for a long trip, hence 30amp is sufficient and better for the battery

[@garryford6439]

@@msafari1993 Thanks for the input and background knowledge. After doing a lot of digging I found the maximum intake power capacity on an IONIQ 5 is 10.9 kW using a 240V AC connection. This would give you a little over 45 amps at 240V. Taking the SoC from 10 to 80% on a 77.4kW battery would take about 5 hours, if you don't take into consideration all the losses in the on-board AC to DC converter, line losses, predefined charging steps and what ever else is tied into the process. That's the type of information I thing a lot of readers would be interested in.

[@lyndayoung8761]

At how many amps does the Niro PHEV charge, 8 or 12? Can you select the amerage? Can you charge 2 vehicles using 2 outlets on the same 20 amp circuit?

[@blmgt]

I purchased a Tesla to J1772 adapter from Lectron for my 2022 Kia Niro PHEV. I found I had to go into the PHEV menu setting on my Niro and set the charging current to "Minimum" to get it to work with a Tesla Destination charger. It would not charge when set to Maximum or Reduced. At the Minimum setting, it charged the car at a Level 2 rate of about 9 miles of charge per hour. Can you explain why it would need to be set at Minimum to work and what that setting actually means?

[@jenjonmor]

Very informative thanks.

[@BrantfordKia]

Thanks for watching!

[@beyondtherhetoric]

This was helpful. Another question I had was about the level 1 charger that comes with Hyundai and Kia products. To my knowledge, they're about 15 feet or so. If someone (read: me) wanted something longer than that, what would be the best option? I've heard that using an extension cord is generally not a good idea and is a potential hazard.

[@jibjab144]

In general, it could be a hazard and Kia says not to use one for liability reasons...I have a 10 AWG out door extension (good for 30 amps) and use it all the time with my Kia Niro EV..if you are going to have a problem it will be from using a too light of a gauge extension..

[@BrantfordKia]

I can't recommend using an extension cord. I will say that we do have customers who do use them. My understanding is they make sure the cord can handle the power, and I have yet to hear of THESE customers having a problem. Most of the customers that I know who use an extension cord, use short cords. Again, I can't recommend using an extension cord, but I know people who do.

[@dominickpetrosino6527]

Thank you for this video. One point you may have overstated. Kia EV6 does not come with any charger. It was a bit shocking to me to realize this after I purchased the car

[@BrantfordKia]

Hi Dominick, in Canada all EV6's should come with the standard level one charger! If you didn't receive one contact your dealer asap!

[@jorgealvarado9785]

How about a level 3 charge or higher on a PHEV. Is that ok? Or will it damage the battery?

[@miggyn.4242]

Schedule Charge: there's an override button inside the car that looks like a circular image. If you're charging off schedule and you need to charge right away, plug in your car, and long press that button (1 second). You'll hear a faint 'winding' sound. After a few seconds, you'll see the charging lights above the dash and the estimated time to fill show up on the dash. I'm not sure if all PHEVs or EVs have this, but my Niro PHEV does and it's great! Need to do a little planning, but that's where it helps to have a level two charger at home to time multiple charges a day.

[@kevatnorthfield]

What button. Where is it.

[@miggyn.4242]

@@kevatnorthfield on my Niro 2020 phev, it's on the left-hand side of the steering wheel, between the steering wheel and the front door. There should be a few different buttons there (I think one to open the gas tank too).

[@COSolar6419]

Good summary.

[@tomdavidsiebert50]

I live in Phoenix. My garage obviously gets very hot. I've found that my overnight scheduled charging quits a couple hours in while I'm sleeping so I don't have full EV range available for morning commute. Why does it quit?

[@Aphorism89]

We have a kona EV. Summer range commuting on the highway+motorway is always n 400/420km at full charge. This is after 2 years and 103000km. I always charge up to 80 / 90% and once every 2 weeks maybe one 100%, maybe twice (usually on Thursdays so I dont have to charge again til Monday). I drive the car fast. Usually cruising 130/160km/h on highway and 120/130 on the motorway when traffic allows. Discharge rate I´d say is considerable. Yet after so many kms we seem to have 0 degradation. Now we are waiting for a new Battery from Hyundai as our reported the fail many others did :P We just got a plug in octavia to replace our old Diesel car. Was very curious about this, as obviously the battery is tiny compared to that of Kona´s, so I never thought it as realitic to keep it charging up to 80 or 90 only. Luckily, we can use the car on EL 2 days, or else on hybrid and the battery lasts I think 4 days. EVs are amazing in a place like Norway. Our Kona was capable of driving 650km in one charge there!!! Low speed roads combined wiht LOTS of regen :) Gotta love this tech! Thanks a lot for the video.

[@raptorjdrc]

Thanks for the video Peter! Question related to the Level 1 charger that comes with the Sorento PHEV: Is it weatherproof so as to be able to plug it (both charger side and car outlet) outside in the cold or when it's snowing? I was looking at the manual and they seem to indicate that you should not ise the cable/charger when wet.

[@garyclark6747]

Tom Moloughney has a channel called State of Charge where he regularly reviews charges and extreme testing is what he does on every unit. Not sure if he’s ever test supplied units from manufacturers but there should be an IP rating on the device to let you know how it’s rated at least.

[@beyondtherhetoric]

I did a little looking around on this too, both in regards to the OEM charger and third-party replacements. From what I can gather, the part that plugs into your car is reasonably weatherproof. The J1772 connector. However, the part that plugs into your wall outlet and the control box component are not weatherproof, so that would need to be reasonably protected from the elements. I've hard of people plugging it in a carport, for example, and then running the cable outside to the car.

[@garyclark6747]

@@beyondtherhetoric Good point as IP ratings may or may not cover the full assembly of the wall cord but should the brick that converts the alternating house current to direct current for the batteries. I would treat it like an emergency backup to keep in the car at all times. Get a weatherproof one for regular charging.

[@BrantfordKia]

I'm aware of several of our customers who use these outside all year round. I don't know what the manual says, but I can tell you that people have been using them. So it would be your decision to use it outside, but it has been done by others.

[@carleaton4330]

I also have a problem with the length of the charging cord on the Santa Fe PHEV. It is about 5 feet shorter than we need to be able to plug in at home. We also have a Bolt Ev and that cord is plenty long. My perception is that the charging cord is basically a heavy duty extension cord. If that's the case is it okay to use the Bolt charge cord to charge my Santa Fe using 120 volt circuit?

[@BrantfordKia]

I can't be sure, so don't let me be the only reference for this, but I would assume that would work.

[@ninjaspeckops]

For phev can you use fast charger level 3?

[@JordieG8]

The level 2 charger was a no brainer after owning my Sorento PHEV for about a month. 2 or 3 days of the week I use more than the 51KM of electric range, I found on those days I was using 90 percent of the fuel I used throughout the week. Having the ability to plug in and top up at home is quite valuable. Part of the reason is because I don’t have a robust charging infrastructure where I live. Hell, I was in downtown Vancouver last weekend and couldn’t find a charger anywhere! Additionally using a level 2 charger and scheduling reduces the amount of time the battery spends in 80~100% range. A level 1 charger takes takes about 3 hours to charge from 80~100 percent, where as the level 2 charger running at the full 3.8 KW takes about 50 minutes. So setting you’re departure time on a level 2 will only start charging when it needs to, and take less time to charge through the 80~100 percent range, then you’re off for your trip. The only downside is the scheduling can sometimes forget to begin charging, it’s like everything falls asleep and only wakes up once you unlock the doors or query the vehicular through the app. It’s an annoying bug that I would love for them to fix.

[@BrantfordKia]

Yeah, it's funny because for some people the level 2 charger is an "EV only" type of accessory, but as you mention, for you, it's a PHEV necessity that pays for itself. Thanks for sharing!

[@RiasatAbir]

I don't come back to home and go back out again within 2 hours. So Level 2 charger is useless in my case.

[@JordieG8]

@@RiasatAbir it’s better for the battery.

[@UgoIgo]

hi Peter, Desmond from the Netherlands. Q'n: I then plan to install two charging terminals, a level 1 and Level 2 charge Terminal. Does it help me in the event when I suddenly need a higher charge cum a quicker speed coz I need to dash out on a moment's notice after returning home thinking/anticipating, I'll be resting for the rest of the day? TIA. Lerv yr elucidation nonetheless... good job.

[@BrantfordKia]

The faster charger just allows you to have the car full of charge more often which might make sense for someone who goes in and out fairly regularly. If you don't go in or out as much, the level 1 charger should be everything that you need.

[@zvonimirgecek4113]

Hi, do charging times degrade ev battery?

[@brettL1029]

Just picked up myPHEV two days ago.How often should you plug in a PHEV? Past two days we drove all over and depleted the battery and charged it over night. Today only drove the car in electric mode for 17 miles and still have battery left over. Do I plug in tonight and bring it up to 100% or just wait till its depleted? Thank you.

[@BrantfordKia]

It's completely up to you. That's the benefit of a PHEV, if you don't plug it in overnight, you'll have less electric range left to use tomorrow, but you won't be stranded. I think most people plug in regularly just to keep that range ready to go. The only time I wouldn't is if you're going to have the car sit for a two week span (maybe if you're on vacation) You want to regularly bring that battery down, and not leave it at the full max charge while it sits for half a month or so. In most people's use-case, it's perfectly normal to charge it every night.

[@msafari1993]

After owning an EV for 4 years and 130k km with zero degradation, best practise is to charge as slow as possible which is also most efficient. Also don't forget to preheat the cabin using the grid.

[@BrantfordKia]

Yeah, that's great advice. I have a garage that isn't wired for a fast charger, I had planned to install a level 2 charger, but found that the level 1 charger meets our needs with a little bit of planning. We've also experienced zero range reduction in over 2 years of ownership. I don't know that the level 1 charger makes a lot of difference compared to the level 2, but that's my experience.

[@msafari1993]

@@BrantfordKia basically you don't need a 50 Amp level2 charger that charges the car in 6 hours and then it sits there charged for the rest of the night, its best to spread the charging through out the night and leave as soon as it's charged

[@BrantfordKia]

@@msafari1993 Yeah although, I can tell you that my plan is to get a 50 amp charger in my garage eventually because I plan to use one charger to charge up to 3 cars at home, charging each when they need it.

[@msafari1993]

@@BrantfordKia yes, more power is definitely required if going to multi-EV household, but also look at potentially getting two 30Amp wall plugs, the thick wiring for 50Amp is quite expensive, do any of Kia/Hyundai EVs come with level 2 charging cable or is it still only level 1?

[@BrantfordKia]

@@msafari1993 There was a time that the early EV's sold in Canada came with a credit to buy a level 2 charger, but we haven't had that in a while. At this point they only come with the Level 1 charger.

[@regisbouchard]

Is there a french site for tucson ? Thank you

[@jibjab144]

Thanks for this...I have a question, in the owners manual in my 2020 Kia Niro EV it say to charge the vehicle at least once a month to 100%, any idea why?

[@beyondtherhetoric]

My guess, and it is just that, is that so you use that top 20% of battery. That way, you're more likely to use the whole range of the battery?

[@ScrapKing73]

It’s likely in the interest of rebalancing the cells in the battery pack, which requires an occasional 100% charge. That’s common advice. It may or may not be good advice for you, though. If you’re regularly DC fast-charging, or have a lead foot (and are therefore also frequently fast-discharging), then it’s probably good advice. If you’re only doing AC charging, and mostly drive very conservatively, it’s likely bad advice. Our 2021 Soul EV has never once been charged to 100% since it was driven off the lot, but it’s exclusively AC charged and only driven conservatively, and the voltages of each cell in our battery pack are still virtually perfectly equal after a year of use and over 23k km. At the rate we’re going it may be years before we’ll require a 100% charge to force a rebalancing. :-) But if your situation is different, then a periodic 100% charge is likely prudent. Just plan to use it relatively quickly after it hits 100%, so that is not sitting at that high charge level longer than necessary. A 100% charge isn’t ideal for the battery pack, but if it’s not at that charge level very long then it’s not nearly as bad. So it’s good advice for Kia to give in general because they don’t know how the car is going to be charged/discharged, and therefore how quickly the cells will come out of balance in relation to each other.

[@BrantfordKia]

I'm not sure, but if the owners manual says something different than what I say, always go with the owner's manual! :)

[@ScrapKing73]

@@BrantfordKia Always recommending what the owner's manual says is definitely safest for a salesperson's liability, and for a customer's warranty, I totally agree! :)

[@BrantfordKia]

@@ScrapKing73 The owner's manual is always right.... except when I find errors in them and I have to notify head office... ;)

[@erictremblay9567]

How much time to charge kia sportage phev with charger 1?

[@kevatnorthfield]

Id love to be able to change the thing. Let alone 80-20 %. Would someone just cover the basics. How do you change the thing.

[@barrygibbons1]

Question regarding the trickle charger that came with my Niro PHEV, I plug it in to house circuit and try to set it to 12A but it returns to 6A, what do I need to do to get it to charge at 12A?

[@BrantfordKia]

Hi Barry! That’s a great question - I’ve attached a link to our video on speeding up your level one charger. Hope that helps! 😊 kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZXZe3p7qqllmbssi=vJneQxlb-Br2ByIh

[@barrygibbons1]

Had seen that great video and I didn't listen closely enough. Thanks

[@ashplumber4689]

Can i use a 32 amp charger on a hyundai santa fe phev?

[@Bitoypalaboy]

Newbie question. I tried charging at a public station. How do I stop charging? I use blue link it to stop charging but it says It's not included in my package. On chargepoint station, there's no menu to stop charging.

[@HappyGuy070]

How about unplugging? (Unlock the car and tap the charger card on the charger to release the cable) Just keep an eye on your app and when the desired charge (80%) is near just go outside and unplug the cable (and let someone else use the charger,,)

[@donbeynen8577]

With a phev we know when the ev gets low the vehicle runs like a hybrid. What happens if you have 80 percent ev left but you run out of fuel?

[@raptorjdrc]

Following!

[@garyclark6747]

You can drive the KIA or Hyundai PHEV’s on all electric to the nearest gas station. It may only go 20 miles in your scenario and could get cool so use the heated wheel and seats. You can travel up to 96kph/60mph but should find the next exit.

[@BrantfordKia]

My understanding is the vehicle is not designed to run without fuel. I haven't tried it, so I'm not sure what happens. Keep in mind that the vehicle still needs the engine for full power, or even for proper full heat. In short, I've been told to never run these out of fuel.

[@EnTekEnviro]

Thanks for the advice but I wish you would have done 2 separate vids as listening was kind of confusing.

[@BigMaxGames]

Which level 2 charger do you recommend?

[@BrantfordKia]

I stay out of recommending them. There are a LOT and I can't promise that one is better than another. Don't buy the cheapest, and you usually don't gain enough to buy the most expensive one.

[@DK-pr9ny]

Emporia

[@javieradreani3083]

My friend, you have two tips that could have taken you 1 min to share. Shorter is better. Edit and focus and you can only improve

[@nrschannel7088]

Why did you remove my comment? When I give positive feedback for Kia's you like the comments, when I give a negative one you delete my comment? I just asked for your opinion. With that your action - it means only one thing and it confirms that Kia has a security issues and they are easy to be stolen.

[@BrantfordKia]

I have 700,000+ views a month and I monitor as many comments as I can. I can't afford the time to discuss full context on some issues. When it comes to security issues with Kia and Hyundai vehicles, Canadian vehicles have had immobilizers for much longer than American vehicles. The idea that Kia or Hyundai vehicles are easy to steal isn't nearly as relevant to Canadians, or our vehicles. In order to monitor comments with this many views, on rare occasions, I'll remove comments to avoid spending half a day arguing with people who don't have the context that I have. I have no issues with people posting comments like yours, but I have a greater understanding of the trolls who will latch on to certain topics, and I'm not at the point where I can monitor every comment anymore. We simply have too many comments for me to get to and help correct or clarify. So, nothing personal, but I don't let every possible comment stay on this channel anymore.

[@Tenly2009]

The thing I liked best about this video was the 4 separate times that the host pointed out he was not an expert and that this might not be the best advice. It’s hard to be annoyed with him for getting some stuff incorrect after posting this caveat. It’s clear that he’s trying to be helpful. Nonetheless… The part of the video that hurt my ears the most was listening to the talk about only using the top and never using the bottom portion of the battery. 🤦🏻‍♂️ Think of your battery like a glass and then think of your charge as the milk inside the glass. If you only drink the top 25% of the milk, then top it up and drink the top 25% again and again and again - is the milk at the bottom of the glass going bad? Will it be sour or curdled when you finally get to it? Or will it taste exactly like the rest of the milk in the glass? 🤦🏻‍♂️. It’s completely ridiculous to think that you are only using the “top” portion of your battery if you never discharge it completely and always keep topping it up. If this were the case (and don’t worry - it’s not), the PHEV’s would be intentionally ruining your battery since they never let you drain it completely and they do their best to try to keep you above 10%. Modern batteries are not like the old nickel cadmium batteries from yesteryear. They don’t need as much attention as we used to have to give NiCads and they don’t develop memories like the NiCads used to. The battery ‘maintenance’ tips that are provided in this video and elsewhere on the internet are almost all based on voodoo, superstition and unfounded or unsubstantiated assertions. It won’t hurt your battery to follow the tips / but it also won’t help like you think it will. In most cases, it won’t make any noticeable difference. This biggest enemy of today’s rechargeable batteries is time. They degrade over time and there is nothing you can do to prevent it. People that swear by these techniques have no actual data that proves their efforts have made any difference to the longevity of their batteries. They just have a feeling that it helped - and if you want to be technical about it - it might have actually helped minimally. They may have gotten an extra 3-5 days - or even a full week out of their battery before it needed to be replaced when compared to someone else who just charged it up to full whenever it needed charging and didn’t worry about anything else . To me - an extra week before replacement is completely insignificant and not worth the daily thought and effort that all of these “tips” require. My best advice would be to not take any general “battery maintenance tips” seriously unless it is published by the manufacturer. Also “better” by itself is not a useful term. A credible piece of advice would give you a way to calculate “how much better” in terms of dollars or in terms of the extra time you would get from the battery before replacement was necessary (measured in hours). My advice (which you should also ignore for the reasons I stated above) is to follow any specific charging instructions that come from your vehicle manufacturer- and ignore any other “advice” you get from internet sages. Merry Christmas!

[@jean-pierredumoulin8305]

he is not an expert but you know what nobody knows. the 20% AND THE 80% IS ABSOLUTLY RIDICULOUS. cAN you imagine telling an ICE car owner to not let his gas car go furder down 1/4 tank and to fill it 80% he would walk rt out of the dealership. And thid id exactly what consumer are doing. ONce they know all the adverse condition to own an EV, they all leave the dealership, and everybody who is thinking of buying any of the existing EV better do his homework and he wont buy one.

[@BrantfordKia]

Hi, The 80% charge recommendation for EVs isn't about restricting usage but rather maximizing battery longevity. Similar to how gasoline cars might see reduced efficiency or increased wear when constantly running on low fuel, EV batteries tend to have longer life spans when not regularly charged to their absolute maximum or discharged entirely. Concerns about EV challenges like range and infrastructure are valid but improving rapidly with advancing technology. Research is essential before choosing any vehicle, ensuring it aligns with individual needs and lifestyle. We find almost all of our EV clients have spent a long time researching their next vehicle, and just about every single one is satisfied with their purchase, As EV tech evolves, it becomes more appealing to a wider audience, despite initial hesitancy.