Charlemagne - Tank Review - World of Tanks

World of Tanks is releasing the Charlemagne, a Tier 8 premium British heavy, in the upcoming season of ranked - here's all you need to know!
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[@TornadoADV]

This tank has such terrible DPM and high ammo cap, you can start firing as soon as the game starts and still have 10 rounds left when the 15 minutes are up.

[@LXDNekoNya]

This reminds me in the time 2 Lowes trolled me in my LT in airfield, those bastard cycled fire the bush effectively trapping me behind the rock for a good 4 minutes.

[@diegozinedine514]

@@LXDNekoNya lol

[@StronkiTube]

DPM is not a very important stat anyway. 122 TM has the second highest winrate in the last 60 days of any tier 8 medium, only beaten by the Chimera.

[@Greenietube]

Battles dont last 15 minutes anymore ;)

[@franclsco1872]

@@StronkiTube "not very important" wowoow wait there, maybe its not a necessity to have a good tank but it DEFINETELY is important

[@rickario3971]

"Charlemagne" "British tank" excuse me what the fuck, i thought it was a french tank

[@johnnymigouel7228]

For real. It wasn't for nothing that the french SS regiment was named division charlemagne...

[@calidude1114]

I don’t excuse your use of profanity kid

[@Retrohertz]

This tank was an actual design from the 1950s, named at a time when the UK was defending Europe - with its US and European allies - from a potential Soviet invasion. So it's based on a historic design, and the name seems quite fitting for a tank defending Europe alongside European allies.

[@KingAlton9403]

@@adriantsang3838 dude Charlemagne was Germanic, he was king of the Franks who were a Germanic tribe originating from the lowlands, later on after the Franks conquered Gaul they where Christianized, they also very quickly Romanized until their Germanic language (Frankish) soon became Old French.

[@BassBanj0]

You know the British are the only ones to name their tanks with unique names unlike other nations (Germany is an exception*

[@dynomight3855]

Lobbing slow shells at long range with rng aiming is like throwing darts at a bullseye while being drunk

[@BlackoutGootraxian]

And then your friend (the enemy tank) somehow hits all bullseyes

[@adamtennant4936]

Beer pong gun. 👍

[@roberttucker8129]

Perfect

[@BassBanj0]

But with the addition that it's satisfying once you get a hit

[@What_Other_Hobbies]

For a target, moving cross your field of fire at 50km/h at 300m range, equivalent to 13.9m/s, your standard shell takes, 300/579=0.52s to reach the target, which means target has moved 7.2m. T-54 is capable of moving at this speed, and its hull is 6.04m. That means you have to lead your shot 20%-120% of the hull length of to hit the hull; 20% to scrape the back end of the hull, and 120% to scrape the front, so anywhere inbetween is a hit. That may not seem like a lot, but considering how the aiming system works in WoT, if 60% of hull length ahead of a moving tank you have your aiming circle on the ground far in the background, for your slow shell to hit that spot, it has to leave the muzzle at a much higher trajectory, meaning your shell won't get anywhere near where the target will be in 0.52s. In the same situation, if you load gold AP, the target will only move 4.5m instead of 7.2m. Meaning you only need to aim at the very front end of the hull to hit somewhere in the back half of the hull. Above calculation is based on shells travel at straight lines. If taking trajectory arch into consideration, the slow shell needs to lead more, and more likely to miss.

[@patrickf6553]

Did you take the average ping into consideration?

[@n3b266]

Calm down Einstein, all you had to say was the gun goes pew pew.

[@crumbyk7798]

TLDR

[@planeto7]

Ok

[@SkywardSpork]

@@crumbyk7798 Lead your shots Hella far and hella well, but like all things you can get the feel of it

[@haezelroche]

I like this tank. It feels like they're making it weird and gimmicky and fun without just giving it an autoloader or autoreloader, or siege mode and whatever other things they've added.

[@willdenoble1898]

Seems like a Chimera but HT.

[@haezelroche]

@@willdenoble1898 I can agree with that, yeah, but I think this'll be fun in it's own right

[@gofast8878]

We need more single shooting tanks in the game

[@ProNoobZGermany]

Yeah, but it still . . . WG is giving the players a "free" tier 8 premium and make the normal ammo mostly useless, so most of the players will spam gold and dont make profit in it.

[@BigCroca]

They really aughta remove bad players who complain because they’re too shit to deal with light tanks or arty. The only real problem the game has is the p2w shit. P2w ammo, p2w repair kits and consumables, etc. they should make it so no matter what tank you’re in or how bad you do, you cannot LOSE credits unless you use premium consumables

[@twisted7016]

The tank commander is a fucking goblin that voice had me cracking up

[@Bohdisattva326]

I love it 😍

[@Direwolf13PS3]

COBRA!!!! Yeah he's a fun one.

[@phantomechelon3628]

Cobra Commander from GI Joe. Yeah he does have that kind of a voice.

[@csakegymagyarember2624]

Okay, a new tier 8 hull down premium tank, wg back to normal

[@obi-wlankenobi]

BUT it have a weakspot lol xD

[@BLIZZARD1880]

It’s not a good tank at all the 597 shell velocity is trash and really bad DPM

[@nebvbn4504]

@@obi-wlankenobi Multiple weakspots* (everything around the mantle is 175ish). Man that thing is a walking blister. Fine if WoT was balanced, buuut we're way past that line.

[@Bcd31997]

Confusing name for this tank, wargaming are definitely trolling with this one

[@hdf31]

The Concept 1B is to good. The next british tank MUST be a bad one to even it up.... and here it is

[@skydivingmoose1671]

@@hdf31 concept is American

[@Warspite1701]

what about 1066 senlac........ it's clearly a dig at the UK

[@Paciat]

Name confusing? Its an evolved Charmander pokemon.

[@BassBanj0]

@@Warspite1701 they love using the UK to add meh tanks for whatever reason

[@philipfoster7269]

A British tank called the Charlemagne? Might as well call it the Martel or the Napoleon. What a load of old sweaty bollox. QB I don't know how you maintain your enthusiasm for this game even if you make a living from it. Fair play to you.

[@oilersman95]

I mean to be fair having a tank with a ridiculous name doesn’t even crack the top 50 of problems with World of Tanks.

[@stephenhanna8490]

Thank goodness Centurions have a long and traditional British pedigree :)

[@CalgarGTX]

@@stephenhanna8490 Well at least there actually were centurions in England at one point..

[@Flackeify]

I don't see any issue with a tank named Charlemagne when we have Lewandowskiego (I don't dislike the idea by the way), it's like having a tank named Leclerc or Abrams.

[@oR3VoLUTioNz]

@@Flackeify he's referring to why a British tank bears the name of a person of Germanic heritage, who later united the lands that would be later known as France. If anything the name should be for a french tank.

[@GubernareMens]

18:06 "WE'VE HAD IT, EVERYBODY OUT!" Yep, that pretty much sums up the state of the game.

[@Silver-vy9ie]

Historically , if I remembered the project was for shooting HESH round across range , velocity didn’t matter. But hey, it’s WG, they gave it AP.

[@Mariner35]

Charlemagne? An odd name for British tank, no?

[@airglide2]

Oui.

[@yanlou24]

well it kinda fits the british MOD propensity for naming tanks that start with the letter C

[@Ridif00lous]

Something to be aware of: the slower the shell velocity, the higher the gun arc on the tank. Usually guns that have this kind of characteristics are... howitzers. When you lob HE shells at low velocity with poor penetration, and no normalization, the penetration mechanics are not exploited to their full extent. A high arc, slow moving AP shell which retains a good pen value over 500m, will hit sloped armor already negating angling effectiveness. Add in the 5° degrees of normalization upon impact, and I suspect this tank has a WAY higher penetration capability than it seems.

[@しょう-x3g]

but when you shot some side armor，it‘s not a good thing think about obj257

[@berkalper4742]

that aim time alone makes this tank seem like a headache to play

[@robinkhn2547]

yeah aim time means not much if the dispersion values are that good. Just look at the Bourrasque, it has actually the same aiming time as a Charlemagne, but its dispersion values are godlike. So you still end up hitting pretty much most of the time cos the reticle is very small from the start. And I never heard anyone complain about its aim time.

[@mateszirt3008]

It's like a tank from 2014 where the premiums were worse than even tech tree tanks... Honestly it feels so bad that WG gives such a bad tank "fOr FrEe" and the new skoda is like a strong tier 9 with worse HP

[@inwedavid6919]

Charlemagne is consider as the father of Europe, naming an English tank with this name is a joke.

[@HelpMein]

And Charlemagne was (basically) French

[@philipfoster7269]

@@HelpMein Maybe a bit German too?

[@HelpMein]

@@philipfoster7269 why i said basically but yeah. Holy Roman emperor

[@rembrandt2323]

How can it be ENGLISH only if UK is a multiculture Country? Maybe it was named for the Scottish or Wales?

[@rembrandt2323]

@@HelpMein It is, European High Court ruled so :D

[@Catflavor]

Leading shots on moving targets in this tank will be a nightmare. Fast shells travel flat, slow shells arc high into the air. For slow shells the terrain you aim at (in front of your target) will apply a vertical trajectory to your shell which will sometimes mean that the shell will cruise way over the top of your target and land on the next map. Otherwise it looks kinda fun and memey

[@MissCelinax3]

1B.. 1B's and Tier 9 Premiums. Nice. The sweetspot of the MM is fucked.

[@supertornadogun1690]

@@alexandergrabowski6265 Tier 8 is shit mm not sweetspot tier 9 is.

[@wilsonsan707]

The shell velocity has to be the worst feature of this thing.. Not worth the 15k bonds at all imo although I'm a muppet.. But that one doesn't need an Einstein to figure out lol

[@Jallahz]

Question I ask myself: would I rather have a M60 or 121B, or a dogshit tier 8 premium lol

[@Terrak16]

Agreed. That shell velocity will prove frustrating time and time again..

[@hailgerald2060]

That's the balancing feature you guys are stupid

[@MM-ny7dv]

@@hailgerald2060 but the tank is not exactly great

[@hailgerald2060]

@@MM-ny7dv bro 440 ALPHA, tier 8 HT doesn't really have good DM either mostly below 2000. u put gun rammer and vents like QB Charlemagne DPM reach 2K like 4 rounds a minute. 10 degrees of gun dep. Not a lot of tanks tier 8 can get 10 -12 deg of gun dep (even the weakpoint up top can be hidden if u use ur gun dep). Very Good Mobility for its tank type, Very Small Tank, Above average Armor layout, Gun Handling and Aim time not a problem for a Big gun caliber, View Range is average for its tier. U can kill tier 6 with two shots. The only downside of this tank is the velocity which is a BIG AND BAD THING and I must say that is a GOOD THING. I don't want another donker/chieftan in my tiee 8 matchups

[@iKenny_J]

short review: Charlemagne will give you no advantage on the battlefield or influence it.

[@4piecespicy589]

Oh my god thank you

[@dracofenix3860]

12:28 QB: "Quite entertaining, quite fetching(?) when the brits are the bad guys, right?" Anyone that knows world history: 😬

[@Metallica4Life92]

that's British sarcasm for you

[@stefannilsson2406]

3:01 The borsig has 516 m/s shell velocity on it's gold ammo if you use the 15cm gun.

[@johnbrooks1269]

"The name Charlemagne, by which the emperor is normally known in English," Wikipedia In the hands of QB any tank will display prowess, power and performance. Obviously some tanks were designed to encounter and counter specific types of enemy machines. So how well you do in a mixed arena like WOT depends on how well you command your tank. GLHF Thank you Will for another concise reveal.

[@Beserker_HUN]

i stay with my opinion, wg can only make broken tanks, or shit tanks.

[@bertonderdeeltweser_g]

And a lot more ,its a joke now only 💶💶💶💶🤮

[@marcoscuervo2002]

Yes, this is a shit tank example

[@comradeiosif2794]

Do you think that WG is trying to hint at a second British heavy tank line with this tank?

[@MissCelinax3]

It's WG. The only line they implement are premiums from Tier 3-9 if that's the case.

[@BassBanj0]

According to a WG employee in 2018 they were working on a new British heavy line but nothing new has ever come of it sadly, I'd love to see new British tanks of any kind The British tree is the only one where I've played enough to get every Tier 10

[@adityabanerjee6950]

So basically its a heavy version of Chimera

[@p3tu546]

Not really chimera weights 56436kg and Charlemagne 45k

[@adityabanerjee6950]

@@p3tu546 playstyle wise* lol

[@MM-ny7dv]

@@p3tu546 weight in wot can be quite irrelevant

[@g.d.graham2446]

Not a bad analogy

[@burntdasbrot3192]

Great Review QB, but one thing wasn‘t really clear for me. Does it have the grunt in the engine?

[@Brahmdagh]

Apparently in my dream last night I had an awesome game in my good'ol T110E5. Don't remember details lol. Gods I loved that tank in 2014 :') P.S. Haven't played this game for a year now.

[@megapet777]

yep when that tank came it was really good. Not so much anymore

[@FlyLeah]

After the skoda t56 this feels like a cartoon tank

[@DSIREX_]

Imma just call this champagne tank review

[@arthurwellsley2715]

Is it over powered? No. Well done War Gaming not making a mistake and over tuning it. The Charlemagne is good at some stats and poor at others. It gives a rather unique and well balanced product. Excellent news. This tier VIII will not damage game play in all tier VIII games. Well done WG for balancing a reward tanks.

[@David.Marquez]

It's certainly a very unique tank. Don't know if I'd drop 15K bonds on it or would rather drop 12K on the FV 215b first.

[@JWQweqOPDH]

16:03 16:13 K-91 Heavy Tank Confirmed

[@PsychoKern]

All you do in this tank is reload during the whole game, exactly like italian heavy tanks!

[@Djoki1]

Really thought that it was a FV215b from the thumbnail

[@proflame4767]

Wish they gave us more opportunities to get bonds. Balanced tanks like this will never be worth bonds when bond equipment exists.

[@performa9523]

Ah yes, the deeply British "Charlemagne"... just like the deeply Chinese "Alpine Tiger"... I'd make fun of the tanks stats, but given the state of the game following the Czech fiasco, the tier 9 premiums, and crew 2, I can't even bring myself to care.

[@performa9523]

@@alexandergrabowski6265 Wow, six whole months before crew 2 replaces skill with pay to win? What a win for the community! /s

[@performa9523]

@@alexandergrabowski6265 According to Wargaming PR guy TragicLoss on the official WOT Reddit, Crew 2 will be going into the game Q1 of next year. It's being tweaked, not canceled- and he flatly admitted the monetization elements will remain. I don't know what fantasy you live in that Crew 2 isn't coming, it absolutely is.

[@jacobboone8380]

This tank is literally named after the roots of my family and we're all in America now. I have to get it on principal.

[@CMKseven]

FOOL!! NO ONE SSSSILENCES COBRA!! I love the Cobra Commander, but yeah trying to talk over him I get it. lol And you had it right Quacky, GIJoe (Duke, Snake Eyes, Road Block, etc) vs Cobra (Cobra Commander, Destro, Baroness, Major Blood, etc) BRAVO! 😄

[@villelepoaho4105]

Thank god, the game was running out of tier 8 premium tanks.

[@wojurera3131]

Immediately seeing that it has terrible velocity, as well as the awful dpm, seems like a clunkier 122 tm, yah No thanks

[@hebrewhammer4086]

yeah but the least the 122 TM is good, also the velocity on the 122 is really really good so you cant really compare them at all.

[@wojurera3131]

@@hebrewhammer4086 I only compare them because the alpha damage is relatively similar, and the reload is as well. However, the Only complaint that I have about the 122 tm is the terrible reload speed, whereas with the Charlemagne I have at least 10 complaints lol. I agree with you in short.

[@hebrewhammer4086]

@@wojurera3131 yeah mate All in all this tank ain't worth no 15 k faclem bonds lol.

[@Elvis-Isakov]

Looks like progetto aesthetically

[@MegaJani]

Bit like Standard B too

[@roXor93]

You think? I do not see any similarities.

[@MegaJani]

Mostly the roadwheels and the turret

[@ludovitbradovka5208]

I think the tank that qb is looking for is the 122 TM

[@Russão000]

IS-3+Conqueror= Duck but its a ball

[@DotDotDotDashDashDashDotDotDot]

This tank is a rare BALANCED tenk, it has great stats it has horrible stats, balanced!

[@Lou-Tenant]

The Pay to win ammunition is 55% faster than the normal one. You should really highlight such things imo.

[@devynd6476]

He does say that… 3:08

[@Lou-Tenant]

@@devynd6476 Yes. But he doesn't really state that this is poor pay to win and he doesn't really criticise it besides mentioning that it costs more. He should HIGHLIGHT it over and over again that this game is pay to win.

[@leyenda224]

i saw a sherrif play this tank today, i kill him and obtained 250 gold nice :D

[@Arashmickey]

It's called the Charmelaine and it's got a 120mm LoVe gun? It's the most romantic tank.

[@zenoegri3600]

WG pushes out more and more premium garbages quicker and quicker. They just showed us a Tier 9 premium tank and they are constantly adding more and more premiums. I miss thr 2013 days....

[@caatabatic]

Love ya' bruvva but can you do your reviews assuming maybe 2 1/2 skills? not sure how many us have 4 skill crews on all our tanks. particularly when it comes to showing us test sever stuff that has 7 skills.

[@Scarletsb0y]

This tank is another middle finger from Failgaming making you grind ranked and to spend bonds on a bad tank. FG has put no thought into this tank and just wants to spend money in one way or another by making you play ranked.

[@javixhu_gaming]

I hardly play and I would be interested in selling my account, do you know where I can and for how much would it be a reasonable price? I have many Premium Tanks and I am sorry to have them obsolete.

[@namegoeshereorhere5020]

Love how the IS-3-II drives right into the gun of the T95.

[@mikuy2433]

Charlemagne is the king of francs the descendents of french... So why th is it BRITISH ?! I'M MAD NOW

[@Hellohallo]

after 279e i'm done collecting, after 10 years. i still enjoy the game and like to play. but no more buying tanks.

[@hailgerald2060]

They should've called it Æthelstan or Henry or William or Anglo or Saxon, the French or German deserves the name Charlemagne

[@EmperorNefarious1]

The Centurions weigh the same as this... not really a heavy except for it's gun. And even then the British heavies are known for their decent guns...

[@DRSpillard]

Should have just saved everyone some time and… “It’s crap, avoid this tank”. Just avoid WoT actually

[@pally4everr]

finnaly a tank with great advantages and great disadvantages. WG seems to start to understand how much BORING it is to play over and over again the same almost SIMMILAR OP tanks. The shell veloctiy of this tank is just perfect to make it unique and HARD to play with. Finnaly WG stop listening to ppl that cries about ANYTHING that has to do with RU tanks and the opposition of them and at the end to keep them happy you jsut create STUPID BORING AF tanks. Bring back the old BIG MAPS and this game will slowly rise again...cause now lets be honest...Its at deep bottom.

[@dyusi144]

I seriously wonder wtf WG thinks at this point when it makes up these new tanks. I mean, it has light tank DPM, tier 5 derp gun shell velocity. Unless you have it already you'd be insane to pick this over the Concept 1B. Also.. Has anyone been dumb enough to spend 10K bonds for a style for either of those tanks?? Like seriously WG, what muppet would spend that much just for a 3D style for a tank?

[@RadeMladenovic]

I think it's better that you compared the tank to a 50TP prot.

[@bikedoc4145]

I'm so glad I didn't get the cobra commander, that is the most annoying one yet

[@phylhyanndynnichaer9215]

The Charlemagne à british tank.. I'm french et c'est un putain d'outrage. J'espère qu'ils prendront un procès

[@mastrorick]

imagine trying to hit a full speed EBR with 500 m/s shell velocity

[@edwinvermeulen8187]

How can you justify even considering that tank for that price?

[@Fluffy8-_-8]

Next it will be a Napoleon soviet tank

[@verpine3534]

This will be a new MemeTank™ for your Twitch poll tanks, QB.

[@dikodwiputra4013]

this tank looks really remind me of the Mathilda, it's not as good but like it spouts mathilda that is derped and modified

[@Riku16994]

This tank seems like a british russian heavy, sorta like IS-3 with good gun depression and worse RoF

[@megapet777]

I hope this will come for christmas

[@Drakedrage]

It's like a high tier Matilda with the howitzer derp gun (which has a shell velocity of mere 182 m/s). Probably fun, but about as good as its shell velocity.

[@johnnypatterson7512]

Gotta love Cobra Commander!!

[@fastboi2417]

Woooo i did not expect Astolfo to be added in wot or im wrong 😆

[@JesusvonNazaret]

and I thought the Borsig had bad shell velocity on the large gun

[@darrellgoodman9585]

It reminds me of a upgraded T5 Matilda well at least the turret.

[@kaszas272HU]

I like how nobody talks about the Concept 1B that you can buy now .

[@bigbook9618]

yes good pls share yr equipment setup at all time

[@thebladeofchaos]

Am I allowed to be confused why the BRITISH are making the Charlemagne in WG logic? Charlemagne the FRANK! the guy responsible for FRANCE! I get British tanks follow C after tier 6 because the Universal tank doctrine took over from the Cruiser tank doctrine, but use a british name.......

[@KroxigormanGaming]

I’ve never played ranked before. Is it difficult to get to division 2?

[@KroxigormanGaming]

@@alexandergrabowski6265 thanks. How many games (ish) do you reckon it would take for an average player?

[@ArturMichajluk]

QB, why are you using bounty equipment in bonus slot. It's not getting bonus statistic, which are better than bounty.

[@SwareTM]

So fire gold for better pen and shell velocity, got it. New tier 8 premium meta I guess

[@TornadoADV]

Cobra Commander doesn't scream "RETREEEEAT!" when you get destroyed? Boooo.

[@Herastheblackwolf]

gold ammo will increase the velocity by nearly 100%...

[@hailgerald2060]

I don't want another OP tank ahemmm excuse me Chieftain/Donker running around in tier 8 matchup, but it's stiil a good tank with its low shell velocit6

[@deirasjankauskas3381]

Quickybaby check out indien panzer reverse side-scraping its darn good

[@XX-ye3vz]

This tank is a wheelbarrow for shit 😂

[@mr_Iron]

I saw two minutes and thought: ANOTHER british tank WG has dumped on: No Aim time, pen, armor. It has decent mobility - on stats. But... it's british so British Cruising Speed at 20 kph is expected. Now I'll watch the full video and cry a little more. Brit tanks were known for their precision, and it was great when I started 9 yrs ago. Now? Crusader: No pen, changed to medium, AND a tier higher. Covenanter is expected to do the same thing one tier higher. New brit light tanks: No pen.

[@Sorata77]

It seems pretty well balanced to me?

[@d4nith3]

16:12 K91 is a medium tank, not a heavy tank.

[@BenTheTiger131]

Oh My Lord Quicky, your beard it’s starting to look like a Viking with that beard of your.

[@rowancarpenter5642]

he better play the lansen C then

[@deividaskimsevicius7528]

They just make tanks with 2 same types of ammo where the premium is better than standart in every way. Not like most old tanks that have APCR or AP and HEAT as gold where you actually have to think at what you fire. Or atleast you used to, now that HEAT rounds penetrate walls even that thought process is gone

[@bob_._.]

LOL Silly boy, making credits with premium tankski is being old business model. Today's stronk business model is selling premium tankski what needs to buy more and more gol.... er, meanink to say, speecial ammunition. And sell looot boxes to cutsie little childrens.

[@AndrewArndts]

so, is this a paper tank or was there at least a prototype

[@danceswithmules]

Cobra Commander was the "black hat" the Bad Guy. From a certain point of view... For your mistakes i sentence you to 30 hours of Cold War match ups on WoT: Console.

[@danam0228]

Thanks for muting Cobra. A very annoying Commander indeed and even more annoying cartoon character

[@BlackWit11]

There's only one Duke, and that's Duke Nuke'm. GI Joe is for kids, I happily skipped that trash and rightfully so as I could hear in the beginning! :)

[@bellum_7997]

QB you know now I have got you as a commander... you are going in my Charlemagne and later intro my Cheiftain Why Charlemagne and after that Cheiftain? Well you sounds like want to be weird at first and toxic and OP after

[@cuzy18]

the sound is to looooooooooo, bust the sound qb

[@chef1788]

Is this a troll? 16.5 sec reload and 500 m/s shell velocity Edit: not to forget the 3.5sec aim time

[@gacolek97]

Its almost like in the old times when wg did actual unique tanks that werent power creeping op... Shame the times are gone.

[@chef1788]

@@gacolek97 hmm why would someone spend 15k bonds on this.., its got the shell velocity of an top tier arty lol

[@gacolek97]

@@chef1788 I meant that in old days it would be considered a funny derp tank, today its just another trash supposed to be played on full gold...

[@chef1788]

@@gacolek97 ahh ye true dat

[@Formulka]

this thing is just bad, what the hell? what is the point? challenge for unicorns?