Charles Barkley on The Finals, Golfing with Jordan, Favorite Inside the NBA Moment & More | EP 43

92%ers we are back with another episode of New Heights presented by our friends at Fireball.
In this episode, we are joined by an absolute sports legend. NBA Hall of Famer, Emmy Winner, Olympics Gold medalist, the round mound of rebound…Charles Barkley!
Before we get to Charles, Travis has to address some rumors that we might have started on this show, we recap the Chiefs' visit to the White House and what Travis was going to say at the podium, and we give you guys an update on the Ocean Drive Beer Bowl.
In our great conversation with Sir Charles Barkley, we find out why Charles decided football was NOT for him, what it was like living next door to Mike Tyson, how he knew it was time to retire, what it takes to play in Philly and who he’s picking in the NBA finals.
We also get the incredible story about playing against a young Dirk Nowitzki, his welcome to the NBA moment, why Kobe wasn’t a fit for Inside the NBA, the truth about the rumor Michael Jordan used golf to beat him in the ‘93 finals, and the one thing he stole from his time with The Dream Team.
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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
01:38 - Lombardi Trophy Rumors
9:18 - Mr. Kelce Goes to Washington
21:10 - Ocean Drive Beer Bowl Update
27:10 - Charles Barkley Intro
32:31 - Barkley’s Football Career
36:50 - Insane Mike Tyson Story
40:45 - Who’s winning The Match
45:42 - Hosting SNL
50:24 - Charles Kelce vs Travis Barkley
54:20 - Smartest Position in Football
01:02:00 - When to Retire
01:05:00 - Playing in Philly
01:14:00 - NBA Finals
01:25:44 - Stanley Cup Finals
01:29:14 - Shocked the Sixers Drafted Him
01:39:50 - Biggest Change in the NBA
01:43:19 - Getting Cooked by a Young Nowitzki
01:47:26 - Welcome to the NBA Moment
01:52:42 - Inside the NBA Career
01:56:15 - Working with Kobe
02:02:00 - Golfing with Jordan
02:03:30 - Barkley Impressions
02:07:20 - GOAT Debate
02:15:00 - Dream Team
#nfl #nba #insidethenba #nbafinals #traviskelce #jasonkelce #newheights #michaeljordan #miketyson #kobebryant #shaq

[@kjmasseke5123]

Jason is the epitome of a great big brother. You always get the feeling that he is always genuinely happy for his younger brother and never ceases to praise and lift him up. His selflessness when he talks about his brother is a thing to be admired.

[@aoftvtheministerstv7797]

Jason is teaching me self love and to wait my time is coming.

[@its4sutq890]

He does the same for his wife and teammates. Such a great guy.

[@jrswo1337]

He’s won life and deserves every bit of it

[@danonalbert6830]

I agree , the moment he digested the SB loss … the love he showed Trav was unmatched

[@quinnthecairn]

I’m pregnant with my second son and I hope my boys are this close. Such a beautiful sibling hood. Mama kelce did amazing.

[@heavytrappin213]

Charles is made for podcasts, I love how he shares little stories randomly here and there. What a great human, man

[@athleticbreed]

Uncle Charles can tell stories all day. This was a great set-up.

[@BadWolve]

He's great but like the story he used.... It wasn't Jimmy Butler or Ben Simmons. Jimmy Butler left because Philadelphia paid Tobias Harris. Jimmy even was yelling about it...."TOBIAS HARRIS OVER ME?"

[@shalakabooyaka1480]

just don't call him a rolemodel (old commercial if you are too young to understand)

[@davit368]

@@BadWolvetrue but they also could have kept both tobias and jimmy and trade or in hindsight let him walk (and probably should have sent a recommendation letter about him to boston and miami)

[@yoghrut]

i read this as "what a great human man" which gave me big B99 vibes

[@christophercrowder872]

I have to say, I think it's actually pretty great that Travis still acts like a big kid, that he knows it, and that he appreciates those around him saving hin from himself. 🙂

[@Brhoward31]

He's one of the athletes they you feel like you know. Like Gronk

[@grannyp.w.4343]

Hmmmm ;/

[@BrucePerkins-mc3hp]

Can't imagine what Travis and Gronk would be like as teammates. They would be in a contest to see who could one up each other. And then add Jason to just stir things up a bit. It would be EPIC!!!

[@zoemn24]

Had you have told me 6 months ago that I would be sitting at my house in the UK listening to a podcast about the NFL/NBA with interest I would never have believed you but here we are! Thank you for introducing me to Charles Barkley and another great episode.

[@lisarichings4094]

Same

[@teter9900]

Were you not a fan of the sports at all? How did you get involved in this podcast?

[@marcus-sky]

Same here 😂😂😂

[@zoemn24]

@@teter9900 I’m so sorry it’s taken so long to get back to you. I have watched a part of the SuperBowl for the last 5 years in an effort to not be one of those Brits that complain that it’s called football and learn what the sport is about but I’d normally have to turn it off at halftime because otherwise I’ll still be awake at 4 o’clock in the morning SuperBowl LVII was the first one I have made the effort to watch to the end! I came across this podcast on TikTok before the game as it came up on the for you section over there and I have been paying attention to it ever since in an effort to learn more about the NFL I have never however had the pleasure of watching a basketball game on TV! I will have to find out how/if I can do that. If you have any further questions let me know.

[@squillz8310]

@@zoemn24 American Football is pretty convoluted and hard to wrap your head around if you dont understand it, took me years to get it. But when you do, it's a pretty enjoyable game to watch! I need to get more into traditional Football, I live in the American Southeast, yet my City has a Professional 'Soccer' team who has a very loyal fanbase!

[@philipschifano5876]

I love the admiration between Jason and Travis .. never gets old. .. thank you for showing the world how brothers SHOULD act 💯🙏

[@michaelgottschalk6909]

Well said👍👊

[@funisnumberone1]

Both of them yield to Charles (all their guests) when they start to talk over each other. They let the gues go first and work off of him. Travis is especially good at stepping back, showing his respect, and then taking the lead with a comment or story. The show is about the hosts, but the MOMENT is about the guest...the brothers are great at naturally realizing that.

[@internetpeople6113]

@@funisnumberone1too bad not more people read your comment. Very insightful

[@beaumckenzie90]

The Mike Tyson “the champ is here” story had me dyin 😂😂😂

[@brenmartin626]

😂

[@brandonbright4293]

One of those classic Mike Tyson stories 😂😂

[@Rubio_Eric]

I was rollin!!😂😅

[@anthonydowling9569]

"You want me to go tell that to a man who bit another man's ear off ?" 😂😂

[@beaumckenzie90]

@@anthonydowling9569 🤣

[@barbarawright6141]

Between Travis' story at the White House and Charles Barkley's endless trove of hilarity, this was my favorite show yet! 😂😂😂

[@StefSoleil]

I loved the story about Dirk! I'm German and remember seeing him play when he was 19 and he was absolutely killing it. He did a lot for the sport in Germany.

[@tacotom3492]

First time I saw Dirk I was close to your age on ESPN 2 playing vs McDonalds All Americans and he had a double double by halftime .. The Day my Mavericks took him I literally went to my parents and said we possibly.just got a future star in celebration. Dude just stuck out and was always around the ball .. Great player and dude for local DFW kids to look up to . 🍻✌️👍

[@SamUHells]

Always happy when players from foreign countries become stars. 10 years or so later and the sport becomes so much more popular in whatever country the star is from. Does wonders for the game.

[@TylerAvakian]

This might be my favorite episode yet 😂 Charles is funny as hell and has enough stories to last 5 lifetimes

[@sampiness]

I really like when Jason is nice to Travis and talks him up as a big brother. When he talked about SNL it was super sweet. That was my favorite part. Aww and then later Jason was super sweet. Jason was so nice. We can't stop Team Kelce at this point.

[@ellenritt7667]

They are the picture of sibling love.

[@BelieveInSkeptik]

I KNEW this would be the longest New Heights episode ever 😂 Chuck talks soo much, love the guy

[@wiz6055]

I love how Jason was so supportive of trav bringing the Lombardi on the show knowing he lost to him in that game. You can see it still eats him up but for him to put that aside and still be that supportive shows how close they really are

[@chriskennedy1184]

Greatest New Heights ever. Charles Barkley and Jason and Travis Kelce! Get Charles on again, please.

[@bethsbowen6550]

I'm a 67 year old lady that remembers watching the greats Charles Barkley, Michael Jordan and so many play college basketball. Love the respect both Jason and Travis have for Sir Charles. Now is your time to receive all the respect from your peers and fans of NFL. Love you both❤

[@samdejerc8718]

I’m going through a lot right now in life and listening to you guys is sometimes the only thing that helps get me through my day

[@awesomeaustind1666]

hope things get better for you

[@diegos1802]

Keep your head up bro when the shit get going hard it bring the best out 💯💪🏽

[@gazzy5303]

Stay strong brother I’m also going through it. Let’s hang in there and i’ll see you on the other side brother ❤

[@tschenkel6352]

If you read this I hope things get better for you. You matter.

[@samdejerc8718]

@@gazzy5303I’m sorry I can’t do it anymore

[@melvinsmiley5295]

What a life Chuck has lived. Best story teller ever!

[@markfeltonsson3093]

Charles Barkley and Travis Kelce: A Match Made in Heaven 🙏

[@Shelbyj13]

I think you mean Charles Kelce and Travis Barkley.

[@OompaL0ompa]

Who's your daddy?

[@Shazprime]

I think you mean Travis and Charles' daughter lmao

[@derekdollendorf1806]

Mm mo..m.m m njnjjjn8j

[@stephaniegonzales425]

Jason too

[@ishicroy1176]

Travis and Jason’s growth as hosts is insane I remember when trav would always match stories instead now they allow the host to talk and makes the interviews that much more interesting.! Can’t wait to see it in the future

[@watsoncobb1722]

"Joe, don't you threaten me with a good time." Travis Kelce is so good at this stuff.

[@MaxamillianStudio]

Charles Barkley is a National Treasure!

[@Greazy__E]

It’s impossible not to laugh or smile when those Kelce boys start laughing 😂 it’s infectious lol

[@JDub0623]

💯🎯 occasionally, I'll skip back 10-20 seconds just to watch & laugh again at their hilarious reactions to jokes & absurdities 😆🤣

[@Sassyglbeauty]

55:34 MAN! I love how much these brothers LOVE each other!

[@CowgirlBaileyMae7]

Love how these 2 brothers can give each other compliments, its very heartwarming to watch.

[@roberttaylor5331]

You can tell how genuinely humbled you two were with having KING Charles on the pod this week !!

[@chriskennedy1184]

Imagine if Charles Barkley became a regular on New Heights! The three of you together are ... electric & epic!

[@jacquelinemckinney4147]

I attened all of Kobe Bryants senior year basketball games at Lower Merion High School. Such amazing talent. There were always a ton of NBA scouts at his games. His dad was once a Philadelphia Seventy Sixer. Philadelphia was so disappointed when he didn't choose to play for the Sixers.😊. Maybe he rest in peace. Such a sad tragedy. He is missed.😢❤.

[@williamwilson9283]

Charles Barkley is a national treasure!!❤🎉🔥👍😊

[@jeffthiel7298]

I can't say anymore how many times I've watched this episode. It's pure gold!. Charles Barkley is such a great guest and Jason/Travis handled the interview so well. Loved the entire episode but especially the No Dumb Questions. They weren't dumb questions and Charles' answers, talking about the GOAT question and the Olympics, were both thoughtful and spot on.

[@Telecasterland]

Charles is a Champion. We sometimes forget he has GOLD.

[@redcouchsportscasts6566]

Chuck is the absolute best, man. I hope he keeps doing it for years to come.

[@ShelbyBaby27]

Between Biden entertaining Travis National Treasuring the White House and Chuck giving Jason some GirlDad wisdom, this episode is beyond ELECTRIC 🔥🔥🔥

[@ceebee8042]

Always

[@wesmurer6884]

Best line I ve heard!! “He’s no dummy, he’s just disguised as a dummy 😂😂😂

[@reedsawyer5704]

I love Charles Barkley. He is the best basketball commentator of all time. What a great guest. I am amazed that the speech at the White House wasn't rehearsed. Travis is so funny.

[@jannjackson8461]

I love the fact that they just let Chuck go. He is so fun to listen to and the Kelce brothers are great. Between New Heights, the Pivot and All the Smoke, I am in barber shop heaven 🤣🤣

[@patlevy9966]

Jason, How thoughtful and caring it was of you to make such a kind statement about your brother. You two are very competitive, but you obviously care so much for your brother.

[@scazermazz]

My favorite Barkley moment on Inside the NBA was when he started talking about "big ole women" from San Antonio. It still cracks me up to no end.

[@joeldutch.]

Jason’s face at 31:50 realizing what he can actually do as a girl dad is priceless

[@marsmama3919]

Charles Barkley is one of my favorite athletes. We recently got to visit Auburn University and see his statue. He has done so much for the community and his home town/state. I love listening to him. This is my favorite episode for sure! Keep up the amazing content.

[@dbo6948]

Sir Charles was the OG of “viral” quotes and moments. I love how they mentioned the “role model” towards the end. Great show boyz!!!!!!! 92%’ers!!!!!! 🤟🤟🤟🤟

[@nem39980]

This was by far the most entertaining episode imo. I could listen to Chuck talk all day.

[@Zach-mw5so]

I just love all the stories. Charles probably has so many funny, insightful, scary, or just downright crazy stories from the NBA back then. It was a different time than now. Great episode

[@ji-inroh495]

Barkley is popular because he answers honestly to every single question. No b.s.

[@laurensmith43017]

Charles Barkley!!!! My kids were students at Leeds! Now we are just down the street at “The County”! We still play Leeds (who whooped us bad!!) You are still a legend here! We are still so proud (and Leeds won against rival Moody this Friday!) In my world Mr. Barkley is known locally as the guy who came from our tiny town and took on the world!!! Alabama still loves you!! (And I think I have a short - that hates music- but has some pics from our homecoming! Again… we love you!!)

[@anamaria-hk8cr]

After Jason said, "My mouth is salivating just thinking about it" Travis said, "That's nasty"so quick 🤣

[@55TheInTIMidator55]

I’d say 90% of the time Barkley is an absolute hilarious entertainer.

[@jacquelinemckinney4147]

I went to the same high school as Sam Bowie. It is a darn shame his career was cut so short due to injuries. Also I lived most of my life in Suburban Philadelphia. Charles Barkley almost ran into me at a stop light twice in Ardmore PA as he was leaving the YMCA parking lot. Lol. I also was seated next to his table numerous times at restaurants. I did get his autograph 1 time early in his career on a dinner napkin. ❤😊. Love this episode of your podcast. Die hard Eagles fan!❤😊

[@jeslynrusso4455]

Love me some Charles Barkley….my personal CB story is. Was living in a nowhere suburb of Philly (in NJ) when he was at his height! Out for dinner at a TGIF with my parents; Dad was a HUGE sports fan, Mom was clueless, I was 25 yo. Dad says, “That’s Charles Barkley at the table next to us”. He and I looked for a second but did not want to intrude. As CB got up to leave my clueless Mother grabbed his arm and said, “ Are you famous?” And he stopped and politely said “Yes Ma’am, I am” and he kept walking. My father and I were shocked but it made a great story for years and my Mother never did understand the magnitude of the person whose arm she grabbed. Love you Sir Charles!!!

[@AZLorie-kl5ow]

My family watched every game together that Barkley played for Phoenix. I even got to recognize the refs. It was the only time in my life that I wished I'd been a man. My kids tell their kids how crazy their grandma is about sports. I love football and really appreciate how you sent us Ertz!

[@EnterpriseNCC-1701]

Chuck saying only old people remember his playing days is sad. I'm in my early 50s, and I remember you, Chuck. I will always respect your love for the game and your heart to win. Standing just 6 ft. 4in and was able to intimidate and dominate men damned near a foot taller was awesome. Legend 👊

[@Abhi-gi9cu]

You are old lol

[@PouonoHB]

Mid 30’s kids still remember Barkley! I’m 40 and still remember Barkley dominating the NBA

[@ryanwhite9437]

I could listen to these three dudes talk ball, life lessons, or damn near anything for hours. Fantastic episode. Well done guys.

[@mastatikeju4620]

Mr. Charles “Ayo man” Barkley with Mr. Travis “it’s gone be electric” Kelce 😂😂😂

[@kharris801]

I was waiting to hear Sir Charles hit the “New, News” chant 🤣😂🤣. I didn’t expect the energy he gave us. It was pure comedy. Now I want to hear Ice Cube!

[@Mathewpoke]

Travis with the greatest white house speech of all time!

[@corywilson2007]

Greatest ever! Shit was hilarious.

[@josephvrobillard7973]

Had he said, "My fellow Americans....", the Internet would have crashed. LOL

[@letsgocards0421]

He didn’t fall leaving podium. That’s a fact that is admirable.

[@2kool42]

Without a doubt. I chuckle every time I see it.

[@nickim6571]

If only they were all that short.

[@austinohnmeis8698]

Absolute class from Jason when Travis brought out the Lombardi ❤️

[@miriamvandenheuvel556]

Awesome episode!! I could listen to Charles Barkley stories all day!! Great jobs guys!!! Much love from Canada!!! ❤❤❤

[@jackson5781]

Much love to you neighbor as well. We in the south love you all as well.

[@jasontitus4464]

eh

[@buggiebear21]

I watch the podcast every week on my break from studying in medical school ! Thank you for being my laugh and brain break for the day

[@VTraveller246]

Good luck to you on your future career!!

[@buggiebear21]

@@VTraveller246 thank you ! You are so sweet 🫶🏼

[@claytongiampaolo7848]

Man charles barkley is such a cool dude, glad you got him on here. I feel like he keeps it real 100%

[@maevedevenney1569]

They’re just riveted with Charles’s stories. Love they just listened and laughed, you can tell they recognise he’s a legend. ❤

[@kaypippin7936]

I’ve always loved Charles Barkley. So glad I came across this.

[@myguitar5724]

Charles Barkley says what he is thinking. That's a gift. Great interview.

[@ZJBorg]

Three of my favorite athletes of all time represented here-Charles my favorite NBA Player growing up, Travis Kelce, and Travis wearing a Derrick Thomas shirt. My favorite FB player growing up. Much respect Travis. Great show!

[@beckydennis7147]

Travis flanking the president...epic! 😂

[@mikehurt3290]

Is there a video or a picture of Travis under the desk? That sounds hilarious to see

[@johnsmith2221]

Charles has to be in one of the most authentic people there is.

[@micahfort5439]

Happy to see Chuck to honor Travis after Jason got Stanley’s Cup.

[@kczcb4697]

Charles is a automatic listen whatever podcast he’s on. Great chemistry with Travis and Jason. How many of Charles’s teammates look at the framed flag from Barcelona wishing they’d beaten him to it.

[@mrspleats]

Omg this podcast is so fantastic I can’t stop watching it. Charles as guest is killing it. Jason and Travis to die for 👍👍🥰

[@milesnapue]

"and you can drink out of a bowl, so it'd be interactive." I'm dying, yall are too funny withouth trying to be.

[@stricttime6481]

I could have listened to Sir Charles answer questions for 10 hours. Great episode.

[@mikehouse68]

I'm soooo impressed with this Podcast it literally gets better every episode. I've always been a fan of Charles Barkley... he nailed this podcast so well spoken... great amount of joking and stories. Great Show !

[@Murph_.]

Love Sir Charles. A man that SHOULD be a role model to millions of people. Great point about how veterans can impact young players. There are a LOT of young players in hockey, but fortunately hockey has a lot of mentor type players who can really help these young kids. Every sport needs that.

[@edotero6331]

The only pod cast, I can sit down and hear the whole thing

[@lindareavis5971]

What a wonderful show.. when Charles Barkley is on you get truth.. 100% I’m one of the “old” fans who got to see him play while he was in HOUSTON !!! I wish he had been with us when we won the 2 championships!!

[@TravDav69]

That was awesome. I was 12 in 92 and I remember the excitement. Great show! Go Chiefs!

[@leonduplessis]

I love it when you two have Charles Barkley in the show because I know that it is going to be a fun time as well as a learning time.

[@susanjoyce-yq2mg]

Jason Kelce has joined Sir Charles as one of Philly's revered athletes. It takes a special breed.

[@sharonjordan3829]

Fantastic show as usual guys. Wonderful to see you two brothers spending quality time together, making money and interviewing sports icons! Ed and Donna did a great job with you two!

[@joeceonnia1954]

Jason Kel, SuperBowl speech when Eagles won it all was priceless, he’s been my favorite Eagles for a long time, and I’m happy he stayed here, in Philly.

[@brucebowlby7261]

The Eagles need to maybe consider a trade with KC for Jason to play for Chiefs and with Travis. How cool would that be❤❤

[@melissaford717]

​@@brucebowlby7261ain't gonna happen. Sincerely, a Philadelphia Eagles fan 💚🦅🏈

[@breterpan]

lmaooo @ Jason “chocolate cake” “grapes” “*dead stare*” 😂😂😂

[@kend6232]

This was an amazing episode from insiders into pro sports.... good stuff. Love this show.

[@philbegay8805]

Sir Charles! Love the 93 season! Best Suns team ever!

[@elizaphoenix2419]

Dang. I don’t know how you gonna top this. I was sad when it was over. For me, this surpassed even the PM15 one. And i loooove that episode. I probablt re-watched that 5 times. This was just such a fun interview. … i’ll re-watch this probably more than 5x.

[@virgo7684]

What an episode! THE legendary Sir Charles is AMAZING!! He seems like a cool OG!

[@nelsondavidhernandez4846]

LOVED THIS EPISODE!!!!!! It took me 2 weeks to watch it cause i kept on rewinding it so much!!!! jajajajajajaja LUVD IT🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ %92 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪

[@hyprjay]

Such an amazing episode, also i like how trav flexes the lombo just so casually to start out. wipes it clean with his shirt and the dudes wearing gloves lmao

[@jeffmoore6279]

That was a great interview. Even though I'm not a huge fan of basketball, I'm a huge fan of Barkley. Guy is a legend and love hearing his storys.

[@nobodysunderdog]

Charles!!! I had the pleasure of meeting Charles when the Sixers played a Spurs game. One of my favorite NBA players of All time.

[@danbrooke6396]

This might be the best episode to date.. really enjoyed this one

[@darkon1957]

Wow best podcast, knocked it out of the park. It was great hearing about the 80’s players, I was fortunate to be in my 20’s at the time and watch the greatness. Jason agree that Olympic American flag with the signatures is the greatest piece sports memorabilia I have ever seen. Go get another Super Bowl Travis.

[@chelseaklein8111]

Thank you Jason for asking Charles about jimmy in Philly.

[@pbates33]

This was one of your best, Sir Charles is still one of the most entertaining and nice people in sports.

[@drawkcab9731]

I love Chuck. Such a cool and genuine dude.

[@CHRISROYALSCHIEFSFAN]

Sir Charles is a Legend!! Awesome stories! 🙇‍♂️ 🙏🤝

[@JoelElRican]

Best episode to date! The realness and openess that Charles exudes make him such a great interview!

[@BrucePerkins-mc3hp]

Long before Dirk, there was a guy, who played power forward for the Super Sonics by the name of Jack Sikma, who was the first German Player in the NBA. and he won a CHIP IN 1979 against the Washington Bullets. These two played against each Each other twice, The bullets won in 1978, and they came back for a rematch the following yr. I was a Sonics fan through and through. Both Finals were great and Seattle and the Rest of the Washington area was on top of the world

[@judyhowe2082]

Love the Charles interview, so good! #DenverForTheWin🏀 🎉🎉 Congratulations again brothers Kelce on your podcast award. 🎙🎉🎉

[@mcr7872]

Love this ❤my favorite show especially with Sir Charles Barkley as a guest 🎉🎉🎉

[@longdolinafamily8873]

One of my favorite New Heights episodes to date!

[@Ramfreak23]

Love seeing Travis & Charles in Tahoe every year.

[@americanwoman6567]

Loved this! I remember watching The Dream Team in Barcelona-it was a huge deal back then. Charles has always been my favorite NBA player-class act all the way 💕