Charles Barkley Says Fans Will Eventually Turn Their Backs on the NBA if 'Load Management' Continues

[@Kagemusha08]

"We don't have a real job. We're playing basketball." This is why people call him Sir.

[@MoralesCorner]

Chuck understands where the problem is. Working class people won't spend their hard earned money to watch these games if they cannot even respect the players. We talking about multimillionaires who refuse to play a basketball game to entertain the fans paying their salaries. NBA is lucky basketball is the most global game in the world. I can tell american audience are long passed their BS

[@tedwilliams185]

@@MoralesCornerYou make owners billions who don’t play the game.

[@SynergySource]

​@@tedwilliams185 the owners provide the infrastructure, we see how Embiid operates, imagine him trying to go through all the paperwork and red tape necessary to open and operate arenas and manage the personnel that makes everything happen

[@tedwilliams185]

@ the taxpayers provide the infrastructure

[@Parlimant_Strifey]

sounds like the pretend basketball from the WNBA.

[@turdferguson2839]

This is what killed boxing, the fighters got spoiled and only fight 1 or 2 times a year so fans stopped watching and now nobody cares about it.

[@lordrayden3045]

That and getting it off network TV Boxing used to be THE SPORT in America

[@shootthejay7002]

Bro boxing was legit back then. Lots of guys today couldn’t handle the fighters of the past.

[@Kagemusha08]

One of the reasons the UFC has bit of momentum now is Alex Pereira. No bullshit, no sitting back and waiting for lucrative fights. Dude will sub in and fight on short-notice, and it's great.

[@Boitu_Matu]

For boxing 🥊 those few fights worked,as it created anticipation and excitement. It is risky for a boxer to have many fights per year.

[@shootthejay7002]

@ yes anticipation is good but not too much. Especially after waiting an entire year to wind up seeing a weak fight. Or worse see them fight when they are out of their prime such as Floyd/pacqiao.

[@CarlWinslowFM]

I can’t even watch basketball anymore, and I grew up loving this game

[@jimmykarlsson2567]

Grew up in the 90s and first half of 00s, i couldn't wait go home and watch todays games. Now it's almost unbearable to be honest, everyone is standing outside waiting for the 3ball, where is the fight for rebounds and stuff like that 🤷‍♂️

[@badabingpixtures3675]

It used to be my favorite sport. The 90s and 2000s. It’s a garbage product now. They desperately need to bring back handchecking.

[@Rome_22]

Same with me. The 90s and early 2000s were Golden. Also me and my son have been watching reruns of Family Matters. 😂

[@funkR210]

No travels or double dribble calls . Everyone just shooting 3s including centers. Players taking games off players joining up for super teams ...which isnt much of a thing anymore really unless you're Lebron. Players basically running the team as the GM I get you want the players input but to give in to the player's every wish and demand is ridiculous.

[@Heathcoatman]

Same. Havent watched a single game in 3 years. Over it. Mediocre players making 30 mil a year. Divas all.

[@MrBobbyj32]

Whether players and fans today want to admit it or not, this generation of NBA players aren't mentally wired like the players of old. Athletically, they are gifted. But that's where it starts and ENDS.

[@jeremiahmiller4640]

True it starts with mentality

[@chriskey7440]

It's a softer generation, because life has gotten easier since the old days. These players aren't built like the past players.

[@projoebiochem]

@@chriskey7440 See Anthony Richardson.

[@Panafrocanam2]

Sorry most Gen Z doesnt know how to judge true talent and want to call any player that wins 1 ring a goat based on 3 point prowess. Yes, they're more athletic now then ever but game has gotten out hand.

[@daa_97]

@@MrBobbyj32 who care my granddad use to walk to school I drive my car he’s mentality tougher then me my knees will last way longer then his

[@justinharris4350]

Im an ironworker/welder. Im going to bring up load management at the next safety meeting...............

[@michaelfsolis]

😂 good idea! I drive a semi downtown and deliver 12-14 hrs a day! I’m gonna try that too

[@rodprops]

😂😂

[@ronjr9193]

I use to be an ironworker and now I'm a truck driver and I agree with both of y'all lol

[@brianjones7660]

And let me ask you guys…..where will you be working NEXT week?? 😊

[@justinharris4350]

@brianjones7660 still telling jokes, bro. you should get a sense of humour before you respond. I sling steel, weld, and destroy my body every day on my own merit. do you seriously think we are being serious?

[@michaeljimerson9021]

Its crazy to even have to have a conversation about basketball players not wanting to play basketball, like wtf.

[@daa_97]

Like who? Yall take 2 players and act like that’s the whole league

[@michaeljimerson9021]

@@daa_97 if that's true, it's still too many.

[@therealdarrell282]

@@michaeljimerson9021The only players that load manage are Embiid, Kawhi, George and Jimmy Butler. Nobody is saying this stuff when star players sit out against the Hornets, Jazz or Wizards

[@Dimllll773]

These franchise should lose a boatload of profit and then cut the player an incentive based contract

[@therealdarrell282]

@@Dimllll773 Name the teams you feel this way about? You are being your posts strictly off of emotions, not facts.

[@deandellabosca1487]

I've already turned my back cancelled my league pass subscription

[@tamaralowe8726]

Games have been good so far, but too many stars out already

[@nekaneka-lo2js]

​@@tamaralowe8726but are the games good? Because I'm starting to see too many 20 point leads just be washed away cause everyone shoots threes. It's like a game of hot N cold out there

[@Obi2020-c8x]

I had it one year. Wouldve been better if people played more. No real regular season match ups

[@nalokitten]

Was a season ticket holder in New York. Haven't done it in 2 years because of this 💩. Haven't even watched on TV

[@Dipset415]

@@tamaralowe8726yup we real fans loving it just let the physicality come back stop blowing that damn whistle every other drive to the rim

[@johntran-qj5it]

Its not just too many 3s...its the constant isolation in-n-out crossover stepback into a 3 pointer...so over that play

[@thegrandpencil4374]

It's like watching ten lazy people play a friendly pickup game at the YMCA.

[@TyTimeIsAwesome]

It's a travel. But the NBA doesn't care. Also every player carries the ball. The NBA doesn't care. Why? More points. If it wasn't so obvious, the NBA would allow their players to just pick up the ball and run with it for how long they wanted. Spoiled.

[@dreamcage1801]

If players get paid to go to work, they gotta go to work. Plain and simple and short and sweet!

[@therealdarrell282]

@@dreamcage1801 There only a handful of players that load manage. Monkey says this stuff about the Wizards and Hornets.

[@baldeagle4710]

Kawhi laughed at this

[@dreamcage1801]

@ well he shouldn’t be

[@jimmykarlsson2567]

Why Don't they pay players on results when the season is over ?? Stop paying them on potential, you take away the drive and the motivation

[@dreamcage1801]

@@jimmykarlsson2567 makes them earn their pay by showing them you can play and get better

[@NuFo]

i checked out 5 years ago

[@donquique1]

That is right about the time I checked out too.

[@melvaughnsmith920]

Facts.. nba sucks

[@jimmykarlsson2567]

I checked out when GSW started to shoot more 3s than 2s and the Houston Rockets would play small ball with a 6'7 ft guy as the center. I'm like " wtf is happening "

[@michaelfsolis]

Me about 7 years ago or so

[@dankestranch8738]

2016 was the last good year of NBA

[@daredevilseyes7493]

I used to just absolutely love watching the NBA. Over the last 8-10 years, I've just not cared for it. The game has just regressed in terms of style of play. Way too many 3s. Plus the traveling not being called is just horrendous. Also load management does have a lot to do with it. If the player doesn't care, then why should I care.

[@shannonwalker6944]

The walking and palming is just ridiculous.

[@soshiderek]

And the flopping lol.

[@rodneycole6365]

Preach

[@GuitarWithBrett]

3s were fun a few years when warriors went berserk then got so boring

[@irvinglambert9316]

​@GuitarWithBrett Pre-KD they were really fun, and there was enough diversity of playstyles still between the teams. The problem was everyone realizing how much more valuable it was to do what the Warriors were doing and every team mimicking it.

[@liquel1603]

Popovich started this mess. He is one of the best coaches in history, but he is the main reason why this started with Spurs back then.

[@jicalzad]

100%

[@ethanliddle9008]

To be honest though Kawhi has looked legitimately hobbled for the last 7 years. He won a chip on one leg.

[@EdwinBetancourtJr]

Watching the Spurs play during that time was a thing of beauty. Today’s game is ugly and uninteresting to watch!

[@user-ov7uv3wx6i]

Is he really one of the best coaches though? He had David Robinson, Duncan for 19 years, Ginobili for 16 years, Parker for 17 years, Leonard for basically 6 years, and Aldridge for over 5 years. Since Aldridge was released, the team has been atrocious. Popovich was awful as the USA Basketball coach and barely squeaked by. Oh, and yes, he is the founder of resting players and an arrogant prick.

[@hectorsanchez1377]

He did it with old players. Not men in their 20’s .

[@impulse_xs]

Imagine if an NHL player came out and said they aren’t gonna play like 25% of the season lmao

[@frankbank0892]

Stop watching. Revenue drops and that begins a re-set.

[@muttyrankz1]

That's what I did and crossing my fingers

[@rascoe1717]

Last time I watched a full game was 2018 finals game. Since then I don’t have much of a desire to watch the NBA.

[@itshiho]

That's perfect since Prince James got destroyed that year.

[@michaelfsolis]

I’m around the exact same timeframe bro! Couldn’t take it anymore

[@pp3k3jamail]

The last time I watched a full NBA game in the last 10 years was when the sixers blew out the Milwaukee bucks on Christmas Day in 2020. I haven't watched since and that's the only NBA game I've watched and the only reason I watched that game was because I was visiting my mom and dad on during the holidays.

[@sim396]

NBA stars are making too much money and have too much power. They want to play when they feel like on their terms

[@dreamcage1801]

Ninjas need to pull their heads outta their asses

[@therealdarrell282]

Do you feel that way about the Jays? They play every game. Better yet, be a fan of the team and not the name on the back of jersey.

[@gblair7622]

Too much according to who? You....u mad bro

[@jordancarlin9687]

They’re actually underpaid compared to what they bring in . The problem is the roster talent is so condensed: in other sports there’s more subtle ways to load manage by having more roster flexibility

[@gugy68]

They are mostly overpaid. A few exceptions to huge box office guys. We are talking about playing basketball. These players should strive to play all games. Barkley is totally right.

[@wakanda_forever1955]

Charles is a national treasure. Protect this man

[@infinitybitcid1261]

No, he bows to the zionists. He's no wise man. He's no hero. He's a sellout like everyone on TV. It's a real shame how ignorant everyone has become. Brainwashed by the American (jewish) school system.

[@grantorino2009]

TRUTH.

[@PurpleImpactStrategies]

He’s too woke now ..he use to be tough minded

[@ShawnFX]

Hes forced otherwise he wont be on tnt ​@@PurpleImpactStrategies

[@craigostopovich4860]

He is woke ..bah

[@clee8019]

They not going to play 25min a game. It will bring down their averages. They rather miss the whole game, keep their stats in tact then play.

[@blackout2430]

Bingo

[@September2004]

Maybe they should change the stats and go with total points or points per 48 minutes of playing time.

[@MartinTemple-n9p]

@@September2004no. Stop pandering to these babies

[@September2004]

@@MartinTemple-n9p It’s not pandering to them. It’s taking their stats down. Well, the total points one is. But then they won’t get to keep their ‘per game’ averages high because that stat won’t be kept.

[@easportssucks4347]

You nailed it

[@MarshallHendrix-nx2gg]

It all stems from it being FAR too easy to make the playoffs. The owners want the extra revenue. However, stars can sit out or take it easy the entire season and still make the tournament.

[@Ezekial2517]

Bingo. This is the answer, but it’s even before the play-in tournament started, which just further proves how much this change isn’t helping either. The NBA changed their playoff format around the same time that load management became a problem, and they have been too stupid to understand what they did and how it changed their game. Yes, players are much lazier today than they used to be, but the players are lazier now because they can afford to be lazier now. The regular season no longer matters, and hasn’t mattered for nearly two decades now. Pop was the first to recognize this, but now the whole league (and their fans) have caught up.

[@jonathancruz7848]

@@Ezekial2517both of these answers are the long and short of it sadly .

[@JD-mh9rl]

I don’t think Philly fans agree with you today. 2-9

[@Paulafan5]

The Play-in is a joke. Bad teams will make the play-in (especially the Eastern Conference this year). Go back to 8 teams make it (each conference).

[@MarcRavingMad]

Welcome to the modern NBA. Players get paid ridiculous money to skip games, play awful basketball when they bother to show up, and then expect statues.

[@therealdarrell282]

Would you get up if you had to play Utah, Charlotte or Washington? I can see if it is your few years in the NBA. The there teams are not even trying to win.

[@boomshakalaka8567]

The NBA gets your implicit approval when you watch

[@therealdarrell282]

@@boomshakalaka8567 I am keeping it real. You do not hear fans complaining when the star players for Utah and Charlotte are sitting out because are they are “tanking” to get a better draft pick.

[@boomshakalaka8567]

@@therealdarrell282 Idk what this has to do with my reply to the OP

[@therealdarrell282]

@@boomshakalaka8567 I am making a point that nobody has an issue when two bad NBA teams play each and sit out their best starters for draft purposes.

[@iamthem.a.n.middleagednerd1053]

I was a Bulls fan in the 80's and 90's. If I turned on a game and saw Jordan riding the bench and there was nothing wrong with him, I'd be beyond pissed. I'd stop watching the games. Well, after Jordan retired in '03, I DID stop watching the games.

[@Kwaj]

Yeah, 80s/90s NBA was absolute *peak* basketball, and it was excellent to the late 2000s. But the decline for me came in the early 2010s. I still watched games, but not religiously like from the 1990s to 2005. By 2012, I stopped watching regular season games altogether., As of right now, the NBA does nothing for me. I _might_ watch a couple games in the Finals... if I feel like it.

[@chucklos391]

I watched this video cause of Charles, but I haven’t watched the NBA since pre-injury Derek Rose Bulls. Those Bulls played hard defense under Tom Thibodeau. That was the last of great hard nosed defense I saw. You also had guys drive to the basket like Rose, not 3pointers as the focal point of offense.

[@soshiderek]

Be Like Mike. Lil' Penny. Air Jordan. Bad Boys of Detroit. Great times! 🏀

[@soshiderek]

The Big 3 of Miami: prime Lebron, Wade, Bosh was pretty exciting too!

[@soshiderek]

Great defense turned to offense!

[@cooljp1531]

Pay them by the hour and problem solved

[@ShawnFX]

They will complain about being 'oppressed' then

[@sonofsarek]

Baseball already killed itself. NFL is killing itself with rules changes, lack of accessibility, antiquated blackout rules, and TV timeouts. NBA is killing itself with awful traveling rules and boring play. It looks like a rec league game.

[@MacNur-tu3cq]

NHL has become sissy sport too. Nascar racing has become sissy sport. Social media and smart phones have ruined everything especially sports world

[@September2004]

How would you rank the NHL?

[@sonofsarek]

@ dead

[@benjonesthe3rd200]

Check in on hockey

[@JAM_2024]

​@@September2004nobody watches hockey outside of Canada. The NHL videos on KZbin barely get views compared to NBA or NFL.

[@scott783]

“Eventually turn their back” ? People have already started turning their back. Ratings suck

[@msharp138]

No they don't....They are determined differently because of social media...Also, international viewership is at an all time high....

[@scott783]

@msharp It should be more like m dull. Don’t be trying to refute what I am saying and defending this nonsense. There are plenty of videos and reports clearly stating the ratings are down and disappointment in the ratings. Go back to your la la land gen z world in the confines of your moms basement and write a hurt feelings report and send it to Adam silver spoon , hayseed!

[@MrMoraltv]

Wrong rating are down 40 percent

[@zplapplap]

@@scott783You’re emotional.

[@scott783]

@@MrMoraltv exactly

[@Blubbluh]

Entitled stars, 3 point chuck fest, zero D allowed, giving the Lakers a +20 ft advantage every game= garbage product

[@Kingofthepirates-si1gd]

Okay Mr. Know it all 😂. The lakers get a 20+ FT advantage every game because they’re a mediocre 3 PT shooting team and they literally run their offense through two guys who feast in the paint. They don’t chuck up 30-40 3’s a game like Golden State or Boston

[@Blubbluh]

@ nice excuse, but Lakers are last in drives to the basket

[@Kingofthepirates-si1gd]

@@Blubbluh 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 they don’t actually but keep telling yourself that lmao

[@Kingofthepirates-si1gd]

@@Blubbluh and they’re currently playing now and they’re 20-37 from the field 4-14 from three but please act like they’re last in driving to the basket

[@StoneHarbor609]

well said. Full agreement. too many 3's and huge big market advantage whistle

[@anthonyjones7848]

The owners are the problem. They just agreed to a new CBA deal last year with ZERO teeth in it to stop this silliness. The owners chose the new TV deal and labor peace over the fans and the long term quality of their product.

[@bekindo2]

I’ve been a Jazz fan all my life (still am) but I live around 11 hours from SLC. Stockton was my fav player and my parents would surprise me with tickets to a Jazz game for Christmas or my birthday when I was little, we’d go every year and I would have been totally gutted if we drove all that way only for Stock to “have a rest day” People don’t realize how much money people spend to go to these games. Tickets, and a lot of times hotel, gas, food.

[@silvershamrock3]

I've went to 1 NBA game in the past 10 years, Cavs vs Kings and I'm treated to Fox and Mitchell both resting. Yeah I'm never going back.

[@sameenergy9414]

Damn

[@Eazy6874]

Players make way too much money to care. So they sit out games and just throw 3s up the entire game and whatever team makes more, wins the game.

[@stephaniewilliams168]

Yes but would you rather they miss shots?

[@TA-ht4jo]

@@stephaniewilliams168 I would rather they play basketball.

[@stevebusch-h8h]

havent watched an NBA game in 12 years.. NEVER missed a game in the 80s/90s. the game is dreadful & completely unwatchable..

[@killernp1317]

My team doesn't do load management or they haven't and if they start I'll stop watching. I'm a Celtics fan. Tatum has the same attitude towards playing as Jordan and Kobe. He says people come to see him to play and he's gonna play unless he absolutely can't. I respect that.

[@geoffwheeler2994]

Yep. I won’t pay to take my son to a game for fear the star players won’t be there to watch.

[@jdaworldboss]

Imagine paying your hard earned money for you and your son to watch someone play and he “doesn’t feel like playing”

[@subicstationditosailor4053]

Replace all American players with imports. You will see a real hunger to play.

[@boomshakalaka8567]

What are you talking about? International players can all enter the draft. You might as well say replace them all with construction workers.

[@TheMasterpiecePD]

Embiid and Simmons aren't American

[@skeeter1858]

Import white players

[@eddie5z518]

Embiid ain't play anyways so It don't matter.

[@keenannorris3309]

Trump don't like you.

[@jackpackage4278]

A while ago when I was really young I was in Miami for spring break and my mom got me tickets to see the Heat play when Lebron was there, and right it was right before playoffs. I was so excited to see Lebron play but right before the game started I found out Lebron was “resting” for playoffs and this was when he was in his prime! Most of the players are like this now and it’s part of what’s killing the game.

[@Bodhi594]

Millions of fans have already turned their back on the NBA. You can thank players like Lebron for that. Viewership is not what it used to be. Players sitting out games is also a big problem.

[@ColinSushiboy-lz4rg]

Lebron bringing in his shitty son helps turn off fans even more.

[@loudertv8676]

Lebron is the biggest draw in basketball bro.

[@lyndonchastain3181]

@@loudertv8676 Doesn’t matter. LeBron is just as hated as he is loved

[@loudertv8676]

@lyndonchastain3181 make that make sense thanks

[@itshiho]

@@loudertv8676 No he's not lol. I stopped rooting for the Lakers as soon as LeBron got here. Trust me there's many many more that did the same thing too.

[@williamhermann6635]

Why havent they turned their backs already? The quality of the game nosedived like 20 years ago.

[@joeshmoe8134]

Unfortunately, I already abandoned the NBA and load management wasn’t even considered. The main issue is the availability to watch games in your local area without it being blacked out and the fact that nobody cares about the regular season. YTF would I support a league that blocks my ability to watch my local team and players who don’t try until May.

[@evanhughes3027]

It took me way too long to figure out what YTF stands for.

[@projoebiochem]

It’s hypocritical for LeBron to be the one now, in the face of criticism, that commits to 82 games “if healthy,” but he’s the one that was the pioneer of the healthy scratch. He would sit out road games in small markets, often disappointing fans that payed to come and see him on what was scheduled to be his only regular season game in that market. I remember that happening in Memphis and Oklahoma City, I think, and I’m pretty sure that he sat out multiple games in Indianapolis over the years.

[@riotordiet9154]

Exactly he is the poster boy and dan tryna use him as some tough honorable guy is hilarious and typical mainstream media lepropaganda!!

[@tigers7834]

That's was the Spurs that started doing that

[@projoebiochem]

@@tigers7834 Pop started doing it as a team/coach’s decision. LeBron did it as a player’s/primadonna’s decision, and I’m pretty sure that LeBron did it first.

[@sameenergy9414]

​@@projoebiochemnope, popavich and the spurs started it. All your anger needs to go to Gregg Popavich.

[@joshchambers5163]

​@@sameenergy9414 nope

[@squishymcsquisherson]

I stopped watching the NBA, especially the regular season, a decade ago. And it has to do with a WHOLE LOT MORE than just load management.

[@sameenergy9414]

👀

[@kodiak138]

Live by the sword, die by the sword. The NBA didnt want to promote and teach fans growing up to love their teams over the players like the NFL and MLB did and for a while in the 2000s it worked for the league as a whole, making money hand over fist marketing the players more than the franchises. Now comes the cost of that decision, they need superstars on every team and they need them playing continually. You dont see NFL fans saying they want their money back if a team switched to its backup QB or if the RB2 is starting because their star RB fumbled twice the previous game. Same with MLB with star starting Pitchers, or an off day for elite closers, etc. Their fans love their teams no matter what. NBA fans just want to see their guy play and if the team wins its a bonus.

[@loudertv8676]

Apples to oranges my friend

[@southholland6277]

​@loudertv8676 not really. I get his point.

[@mechkota]

NBA chases casual fans even knowing that it turns off die-hard fans. What happens when you catch the attention of the casual fans? They might watch for a while, but as they get closer to becoming real fans, they start to see the gimmicks. So the obvious problem is that the more someone watches NBA, the more frustrated they get and they stop watching. The NFL gives you an exciting game, but they don’t dumb it down. Football has a lot of moving parts and it takes time to understand the intricacies of it. It’s not a game for the casual fan to really understand. Yet it’s the one thing that in 2024 tens of millions of fans will sit in front of a television for over three hours to watch.

[@bicgohill8756]

All sports suck now, gambling screwed them.

[@sportjames23]

Sad thing is, the NBA USED to promote and teach fans about teams AND players. This was back in the 80s when I started watching the NBA. It's how I grew to love the game. I had--and still have--NBA VHS tapes from back then like "Michael Jordan: Come Fly With Me", "NBA Superstars" and "Dazzling Dunks and Basketball Bloopers" and each tape would have a segment on it that went over the history of the game--how it was invented by Dr. James Naismith, early stars of the sport, the Lakers/Celtics rivalry, Russell vs Chamberlain, the Knicks of the early 70s, Dr. J's dominance of the ABA and his arrival in the NBA, Bird vs Magic, and the coming of then young talent like MJ, Barkley and Olajuwon. This is what made kids of my generation fans of the NBA. Unfortunately, the NBA doesn't do this anymore and young fans have NO interest in anything that came before 2016, it seems.

[@jicalzad]

The 3-ball doesn’t bother me, but the load mgmt is definitely a problem. Also, I wish the defensive rules need to be adjusted too.

[@gmr7494]

You're getting paid gazillions, but you only want to work half the time for it. BULLSHIT

[@Bagom80]

Cut season to 60 games, no back to back, and reduce salary to match…

[@CDVEducate]

That won't work

[@stevenkraft8070]

That's never going to happen. The owners, the players and the NBA itself all make the kind of money Charles is talking about because there are 80+ regular season games on TV/streaming per team, and each playoff series is now 7 games instead of the old 5 games, and there are the play-in games for even a bit more TV license money.

[@dochouse_]

they will never ever do that

[@bjrnthebootybandit]

​@@stevenkraft8070they would need to earn less money

[@izzydadopest]

Players will still find reasons to not play some nights.

[@lordrayden3045]

For $80 million / year, most people would be way early, take tickets and walk around the stands shaking fans hands before the game

[@josearalat]

Last time i watched a full NBA game was when Toronto won the championship. Since then I've canceled my cable subscription. Only enjoyed basketball (was a fierce fan since the mid 80s) but now its not even on my radar.

[@The-GreenHornet]

Pay these players according to how many minutes they play. Watch how quickly load management STOPS

[@sportsavant2937]

Most young fans today don't really watch the game. They only watch the highlights. Even when they turn on the games, their eyes are mostly on their phones texting. They don't really pay attention to the game. So I don't know if all those commercials actually reach them because they are not even watching the game itself. This is why TBS would rather do college football than to overpay for the NBA. They know the real number and how much they actually make. Amazon is willing to overpay for the NBA package because they want to use it to get more people to sign on to their Prime package. Let see if it will work out the way Amazon want, otherwise they will lose money on the deal.

[@eddie9244]

I had one foot out the door after KD joined the warriors. Then in 2020 I was completely done for 2 seasons, but last season I started watching just the playoffs and holy cow the 3 pt attempts is crazy compared to just 6 years ago. Sad because I was a superfan from 1991-2016

[@hay_w1re645]

Will lead to their downfall? I think we’re there Dan. I haven’t watched the regular season in 5 years.

[@IcantThinkOfAname9]

Players aren’t passionate about the game, that’s why they don’t see anything wrong with constantly sitting out.

[@therealdarrell282]

Go direct your feelings towards the team. For years, the Miami Heat would prioritize health over the regular season.

[@boomshakalaka8567]

Dennis Rodman went to Vegas during the playoffs and had to be dragged back to practice by MJ himself. Scottie Pippen refused to go back in a playoff game because Phil Jackson drew up the final play to use him as a decoy and for Kukoc to hit the game-winner. Michael Jordan would play 20 holes of golf before a game. Meanwhile, LeBron spends $1M/yr on his body. He perfectly optimizes his diet so he plays at his peak. He has a hyperbaric chamber in his house that helps him recover after games. So, I'm gonna ask you. How do you measure passion? The goal is to win an NBA title not any individual game.

[@therealdarrell282]

@@boomshakalaka8567 Every team is different on how they deal with their star players. I could tell you Allen Iverson used to party hard, not go to practice and still drop 35.

[@boomshakalaka8567]

@@therealdarrell282 Fantastic. But you missed the point there.

[@therealdarrell282]

@@boomshakalaka8567 I used the analogy with AI because he was in the club versus Kobe and MJ who would be in that gym.

[@StinkMello12]

The oversaturation of sports media is helping to destroy sports. They sensualize players, build them, and the tear them down. Shyt crazy

[@17thN.O]

I been sayin that too.

[@Bodhi594]

Stop worshipping these players. They're the capital citizens in the Hunger Games.

[@isiahnelsoniv]

Sensualize? Lol

[@holidayarmadillo8653]

I don’t think you know what sensualize means, buddy. 🤣

[@holidayarmadillo8653]

You meant “sensationalize” just btw

[@Hyphen_1781]

Funnily enough NBA ratings are down.

[@jackxiao9702]

I would change it to this: 1. NBA players gets a base salary, rest of the money is prorated on amount of minutes active in the game. 2. Bring back hand checking, or other rules to punish three point percentage.

[@jimmykarlsson2567]

Or how aboutt his, the owner saying " this is how much money you can get each season if you reach up to our expectations, that means if you're not hurt or sick you play and you play to win every game, then you will get this salary after every season" Not giving them thier salaries before the job is done, you've just taking away thier motivation and reason because clearly nowdays the love and the passion for the alone isn't enough

[@africanjew1596]

Used to be able to watch the nuggets nearly every game on the local channel Altitude and now we have to basically pay some other new streaming company everytime to even view a regular season game. The NBA and NFL have been going downhill for the past 15+ years and the crazy thing is people are still loving it

[@ClintMcneil-h5k]

FOLKS LUV HOW CHARLES SAID WE DONT EVEN HAVE REAL JOBS. WE PLAY BASKETBALL, PREACH CHARLES 🙌 LAZY MFCKERS IN THE LEAGUE NOW FOLKS, THANK GOD I DONT LOOSE SLEEP TO WATCH THESE LAZY CLOWNS NOW AH DAYS

[@therealdarrell282]

Can you go out there and play in the NBA?

[@F1derful.]

If I tell my boss I’m not working back to back days I won’t have a job

[@jimmykarlsson2567]

Yeah and you don't even have food in your table after that

[@johnszczerba9979]

To me it's hilarious fans defend the players who play barely more than half a season...missing many games despite being healthy as they are getting paid a million per game is ridiculous

[@Jimifan57]

The issue that I have with load management (other than the very concept, which is ridiculous) is that year after year the same players - Joel Embiid, Kawhi Leonard, Kristaps Porzingis, Paul George, Ben Simmons, Anthony Davis, etc. - are notoriously load managed, yet these same guys are on the shelf with injuries EVERY year.

[@nickhewes6860]

2:49 Exactly

[@donvolio4089]

Get paid for the games you play is a great idea. The stars would get a baseline salary of say 25 mil a year but if they want big bucks they have to play. Players wouldn’t like it but they’d get over it. They’re not going to go somewhere else to play. Something has to change.

[@anthonytaylor7928]

Both two many Three pointers and load mngt

[@ALmizzle415]

3:10 you shouldn’t have to do anything besides telling these players to man up and do their jobs. Media is so afraid to hurt these players feelings, that they stand by, smiling and nodding when an nba player complains about their pay, or how the nba expects too much from them. Stop coddling these grown men, and the game will fix itself.

[@samuelfaria8522]

Play 82 games to eliminate 10 teams is a scheme to steal money from the fans. The regular season just doesn’t mean anything anymore. Baseball regular season is insanely long but at least you eliminate 18 teams after that.

[@Paulafan5]

Return the playoffs to 8 teams in each Conference. A good team in the Western Conference would miss the playoffs, but it would make bubble teams not load manage (as much).

[@NoNameWillBeGiven778]

@@samuelfaria8522 you play in a part in that lazy fan

[@colew.5956]

Turned off the NBA years ago… We had league pass Every year for as long as you could get it. Ever since they changed the rules to Promote a 3 point barrage and started promoting political agendas we turned it off. Very Happy to have seen The Best of it 🏀

[@melvinroach5633]

Basketball was my favorite sport growing up back I the 90s. 3 point shot destroyed the game of basketball. These guys are making too much money. That's the problem. You pay these guys per game you best to believe these superstars will play every game to get their money. I hate what the NBA stands for now. I stop watching basketball after the lakers I the 2000s. Kobe Bryant was the last old school nba star who played every game and took his job serious. I wouldn't pay a dollar to watch these nba players play.

[@pcsixty6]

It all boils down for the league stiffling the defenses allowed and not curbing the load management from the get-go

[@sabolou34]

I stopped watching the NBA a few years ago. The prices of the tickets are just too much to watch big babies. Prices continue to go up and dumb people pay it! Eventually they’ll make 300 million a year while the middle class keeps getting screwed.

[@ibnfaqir9223]

The only way to fix this is to get rid of guaranteed contracts.

[@MrAce-lm8es]

March 19, 1995...The 30th Anniversary of The Most Famous Quote and Comeback in Sports History took place "I'm Back." 🏀

[@joelv92]

The issue is that players today take everything for granted. The older players had to work hard to get that big paycheck.

[@juanmiguelvillaluz6813]

They are not made like the 80’s 90’s 00’s players….real men💪🏻

[@therealdarrell282]

What? You know how many fans hated the NBA after MJ? It was called too hip hop. Let’s not act like the fans were celebrating the NBA over the Malace in the Palace. Stop romanticizing things.

[@Heezle]

NBA should have went old school and removed the three point line from the in season tournament. Would be awesome to see more drives to the lane, post play and mid range shots.

[@riotordiet9154]

Lebron saying he wanna play 82 games after he load managed his whole career is hilarious and dan patrick just tryna push propaganda is sad lebron is the reason load management became popular!

[@jamesbroady3604]

Bron played over 90% of regular season games 14 of his first 15 seasons. And he wasn’t just a spot up shooter playing 16 minutes a game, he played a more physical style of ball for 37-42 mpg . Preseasons, deep post-season runs, FIBA, multiple Olympics. Not my favorite player but what he has given to the game speaks for itself.

[@mikekole]

I stopped going to Pacers games a few years ago because of load management. The first time was AD when he was with the Pelicans. There was only one reason to go see that team, and he was in street clothes. After that, I really noticed when the visitor's star players failed to suit up. You can say, well- Indiana is a weak market, so that's a good one to do load management on. Fair point, but the same reason I don't buy a ticket anymore.

[@TheFilthyAtheist]

Can brick layers and iron workers claim they can't work back to back days...?

[@limonator8280]

100% of the blame should go to Greg Popovich. Never let this go.

[@nostaljah19]

I don't agree with Barkley most times, but he is spot on here. These players today are spoiled rotten with the money they make.

[@mattcox5294]

I turned my back 5 years ago. Load management is just another reason to not watch anymore

[@lordrayden3045]

Just like why there are so many more NFL injuries The NFL got rid of real practice / training camp NBA is following right along

[@baffingirl4648]

Players really don’t care what fans think!! They are just happy collecting their humongous pay checks and just say “whatever?!”

[@whitebelt2905]

I turned my back when LeBron left for Miami to stack the deck and get an easy ring. Other superstars followed his lead and stopped competing

[@therealdarrell282]

What?!? You are mad because LBJ teamed up with other great players to win a chip? I guess you want star players to waste their prime careers in a small market that is not a free agent destination. How many years have the Jazz, Wizards and Hornets been playing for “one day?”

[@donquique1]

​@therealdarrell282 yes like the 80s. Do you think magic would had joined larry or jordan for a championship? Hell nooo.

[@therealdarrell282]

@ If Magic was on the Cavs, he would have left. Magic used his power to get paid more than Kareem and he got coach fired. Let’s stop with the players back in the day would not do this or that.

[@whitebelt2905]

@@therealdarrell282 bruh…. getting paid more than Kareem completely different from forming super teams. Players back in the day literally said they would never team up when they played. You’re clearly young asf and idolize this mentally soft generation.

[@whitebelt2905]

@@therealdarrell282 What?!?! You like it when there is no competition. When players get their feelings hurt and refuse to play because they want a trade? You prefer players team up so they don’t have to compete as hard? You’re a mindless fanboy. The type that the NBA love because you’ll watch anything they put on tv.

[@whatisantilogic138]

Players should be paid per game and not a guaranteed salary (injured or not). If you're injured all season, then you get a minimum wage, (10% of your contract for the year). There should also be a minimum number of games required, like 80% of the season (65 games). If that number isn't reached then you are fined a substantial amount, like 25% of your contract.

[@shrapnel77]

John Stockton played 82 games/ 27.7 min/game......at age 40. Bunch of bums today.

[@jimmykarlsson2567]

Jordan also played 82 games his last season in 2003

[@thepassportog]

The regular season DOES NOT MATTER. The players treat it like that.

[@daa_97]

Nurses and construction workers should’ve worked on they jump shot

[@jesseboy1961]

wtf

[@Keefer24]

Ask yourself this since you’re twerking for 1% of 1% of the country. If every nurse and construction worker decides to quit the country would collapse, if the NBA stopped tomorrow nothing would change.

[@daa_97]

@@Keefer24 seems like they should go on strike and demand million dollar salaries nobody keep wanna here yall complain because yall can’t do what NBA players do nobody wanna pop open a beer and go watch a nurse after a long hard day of work

[@rogerw3818]

The players don't care about the regular season. The fans know the players don't care about the regular season, so they don't care about the regulars season. Give people 82 games to not care about your product and it will become their default setting.

[@Adrian-tv3ku]

The Championship or bust mentality is the thing that could lead to the demise of the sport. We fans say Regular Season stats don’t matter without the Championship.

[@tigera6]

We say regular season dont matter if you dont show up in post season, aka pulling a Harden. But we still celebrate greatness when we see it, regular season or not.

[@17thN.O]

I been sayin that too. If the "nothin matters but championships" narrative (and now they are sayin only multiple championships) count. Then just go get paid and go home if you don't think you have a chance to win those multiple championships. None of it counts anyway.

[@17thN.O]

​@@tigera6No they don't. All people care about is "ringz". Now thanks to people like the guy talking even former MVPs and finals MVPs are "bus riders" now. So basically you see "the or a GOAT" or you are a "BUM" nowhere in between.

[@tigera6]

@@17thN.O what you talking about, tons of players who have yet won a ring but are still recognized for the talent they have. So you think guys like Luka, SGA, Ant Man are bum?

[@isiahnelsoniv]

@@17thN.O I don’t think any Celtics player is mentioned in goat category lol

[@pureceeparis]

One problem is that the players of old were often from difficult backgrounds and getting on an NBA team was a Godsend for them. Many of today's players were groomed throughout their high school career by parents who wanted an NBA career for them and nepotism is spoiling almost every aspect of entertainment as children of those who earned their way are given opportunities that should go to someone else. Too many of today's players have a huge sense of their own importance and less real hunger for the game and you can feel it when some of them are playing. Just scoring and boring. Love our Mavs though. Some nights night they are so exciting to watch!💙💙

[@daa_97]

Owners put load management in then let the players take the public hit for it…

[@DSPHistoricalSociety]

Many of us have already checked tf out. I grew up loving basketball more than any other sport. Can't watch a game anymore, most of the time can't even sit through highlights on YT

[@mythoughtsmyfaultspodcast]

NBA Is boring …I didn’t watch one game of the finals last year for the first time in my life it’s like the guys in the team don’t care so why should we…also aside from the Bronny James story, nepotism is running rampant in the league and very few guys make it from inner city neighborhoods which is where “coolness is created.” It used to feel like anyone could make it to the league now it just seems like kids whose parents have the means have a shot at making it

[@loudertv8676]

It would be nice if you had specific evidence

[@therealdarrell282]

@@loudertv8676I agree. The initial post was going off his feelings.

[@otispage4]

I agree. Pay athletes based on games played.

[@schlotzkovich6909]

The NBA needs to stay out of politics. Stop alienating potential customers. Doesnt matter who is in the WH, stay the hell out of politics.

[@nicholasblakiston6297]

​@@Edd_LShoreI wish people felt this way about the government, it would be a much more peaceful and prosperous world.

[@nicholasblakiston6297]

@@Edd_LShore funding causes through taxation rather than voluntarily contributions: -allows corrupt politicians rather than individuals throughout society to determine how funds should be spent -discourages production by reducing the reward people get for productive effort -empowers the government to set laws that impart violence upon people, limit competition, and destroy overall production

[@nicholasblakiston6297]

@@Edd_LShore if stolen money wasn't directed to warmongers through taxation, the world would be more peaceful.

[@jpmnky]

It’s too late to get the fans who have left back. Once someone decides to stop watching it’s too late. Then if that fan has already went an entire playoff cycle they are never coming back. Maybe later if their kids get into it. Or a team moves to the area they live in. Their only real move is to try and get young people who are not fans to get interested in the game. They have earned every bit of this situation.

[@ColinSushiboy-lz4rg]

The three pointer is okay but watching them miss tons is beyond gay. I miss the 80s and 90s where they dunk and its high percentage going in.

[@jgrullon32]

It's bad and the woke bs gay woke players being pushed too. Wtf. Pause at this era.

[@Keefer24]

Already did, paid a bunch of money to go see a GSW game a couple years back and they sat all the starters, paid all that money to watch some bench players, not like they give you a heads up before you purchase your tickets 😂

[@pyrexandretti7730]

I really stopped watching when it turned into a 3pt contest a few years ago💯 it’s political now and players don’t want to play anymore!! All star weekend been garbage for almost 6 years now🤦🏽‍♂️ it’s a gen z era now

[@therealdarrell282]

Name the players that do not play? I know about Embiid, George and Kawhi. The Celtics two best players play every game and same goes for LBJ, Luka, Giannis and Jokic.

[@kylelaforest9919]

Okay boomer

[@pyrexandretti7730]

@@therealdarrell282 you already know the season just started…niggas start getting lazy right around all star time..they gone start tweaking right after that goofy tournament that’s finna start soon💯

[@therealdarrell282]

@@pyrexandretti7730 Again, the only players that miss games are the ones I listed. Just say you hate the NBA.

[@ariefraiser140]

Imagine spending your hard earned money on overpriced NBA tickets to watch your favorite player and team play only to be told he isn't playing due to load management. It's like paying to see your favorite singer in concert and they send out the background singer to perform instead.

[@lionfan96]

Watched a viral video of a 2 min sequence between the lakers and suns. It was just constant missed threes. No ball movement. No plays. Just jacking up 3s.

[@GPBAK93311]

We stopped watching when players started kneeling and stopped playing.