Charlie Kirk Calmly OBLITERATES Woke Student & Leaves Room SPEECHLESS 👀

Join this channel to get access to perks:
/ @the_perseverance
BECOME A PATRON: www.patreon.co...
Follow Us On TikTok: / theperseverance1
Follow Us On Instagram: www.instagram....
Bringing smile to your face, by REACTING to music that you LOVE.😜
⚠ IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER: IF you don't like any of my uploads for whatever reason, please don't make a scene - contact me here on KZbin by sending me a private message or send me an e-mail on: [e-mail] & i will happily cooperate and take it down!
© Copyright Notice:
We make these videos to motivate people and inspirate them for better workout. We do not own the clips and music we use in most cases. Our understanding is that it is in correlation to Fair Right Use, however given that it is open to interpretation, if any owners of the content clips would like us to remove the video, we have no problem with that and will do so as fast as possible. Please email us if you have any concerns at [e-mail]
FAIR-USE COPYRIGHT DISCLAIMER
* Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, commenting, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use.
1)This video has no negative impact on the original works (It would actually be positive for them)
2)This video is also for teaching purposes.
3)It is positively transformative in nature.
4)I only used bits and pieces of videos to get the point across where necessary.

[@petercullipher9438]

This is a clear example of someone trying to prove that they are smart, while simultaneously proving that they are actually wrong. Those are contradictory concepts.

[@christianbautch4015]

He's not trying to prove that he's wrong, but he's unintentionally doing so by trying to prove that he's smart. Also you can be smart and be wrong, since many smart people have to use trial and error to find a solution to a problem. I don't support the student's position I just want to make clear.

[@petercullipher9438]

@@christianbautch4015 “trial and error” is never an effort to prove anything right. It’s performed as an experiment to DETERMINE what’s right. Go back to English 101.

[@Paulftate]

​ like saying follow the science when the science disagrees in what you are saying

[@giancarlocuesta1637]

@@petercullipher9438All you had to do was just correct him and that’s it, sheesh man the rest unnecessary at that point you’re looking for an argument than just having civil discourse.

[@petercullipher9438]

@@giancarlocuesta1637 stating facts is not uncivil. However, you getting involved in a situation that has nothing to do with you and proclaiming that I am wrong is the definition of uncivil. That’s me pointing out your hypocrisy.

[@Mr0PT1C]

He stands on no moral compass or even principle. What a coward

[@LevelEarth2021]

These schools and uni's are creating the worst types of students, may God help this country.

[@PrinceTerrien]

Why is he a coward for coming to a logical conclusion that he believes to be true?

[@Paulftate]

​this DEI/CRT nonsense has gone to far

[@melissaculpepper7663]

But judges according to his understanding…Lord, please humble this young man in hopes that he might be saved.

[@hellogoodnite8447]

I think he does believe in subjective morality, just not objective.

[@nathanm2419]

The convenience is forgetting all of the evil done in the name of those that you agree with ideologically.

[@Haylo545]

Humanity needs moral standards. Humanity needs God, and so it is evident throughout our human history

[@PrinceTerrien]

What does it mean for humanity to "need" such things?

[@Joe-eo1uo]

I think humans "want" moral standards because we have self-consciousness compared to animals but why would we "need" moral standards apart from God wanting us as His eternal servants??

[@jaseplet5657]

Yes Sir! You got it right. They know what they were doing was wrong.

[@Joe-eo1uo]

let's say hypothetically you grew up in a world where no one told you right from wrong...no one said "killing is wrong" and "helping save people is right" do you think that there is an objective morality then? I think, and this is just my opinion, I think we would most likely do whatever is necessary to survive just like wild animals. That we would do anything to keep ourselves alive, what do you think? Or do you think we are born knowing right and wrong?

[@aarondawley-c3o]

It’s always been pretty straightforward we may know what’s right but we all have a right to make our own decision whether right or wrong

[@aarondawley-c3o]

The original ground process is what whe should strive for no matter out other beliefs

[@aarondawley-c3o]

Why do we people want to argue so bad? I understand the difference between straight thinking vs a religion.

[@aarondawley-c3o]

But there’s an easy mutual ground😊

[@russpeele9882]

Perhaps the the kid learned something...he don't know he got his ass kicked!

[@tjblues01]

The kid, you mean Charlie, right? Because in this exchange the student is the clear winner, especially when Charlie started expressing his *subjective* opinion on the truthfulness of his favourite book and cut short the conversation.

[@lysanderofsparta3708]

@@tjblues01 You're an ignoramus.

[@tjblues01]

@@lysanderofsparta3708 And you are unableus express us yourselfus. But funneus as helleus. 😉🤣🤣🤣😎

[@lysanderofsparta3708]

@@tjblues01 Thanks for proving my point, jackass.

[@russpeele9882]

@@tjblues01 perhaps you should watch again?

[@asoncalledvoonch2210]

These children are lost and deceived.

[@Joe-eo1uo]

you're lost and deceived hahaha what's your opinion on "objective morality"??

[@asoncalledvoonch2210]

@@Joe-eo1uo That if you laugh at morals or Morality, you don't have any morals. That's objective as it gets. 💯

[@Joe-eo1uo]

@@asoncalledvoonch2210 no that's actually as SUBJECTIVE as it gets because not everyone believes that "if you laugh at morality you don't have morals"!

[@Joe-eo1uo]

@@asoncalledvoonch2210 I think you need to look up the definitions of subjective morality vs. objective morality - I'll help you - objective morality relies on there being a higher calling that determines right and wrong aka God's law but yet there are atheists who believe in subjective morality - that there is no God determining right and wrong...things are just the way they are...look at animals they purely live to survive...how are humans that much different? Do we REALLY have objective morality or is it just self-consciousness?

[@davidjackson2690]

​@@Joe-eo1uoit does not exist. If you had an ounce of common sense you would too.

[@denisenjim284]

These studnts don''t know how to debate...Kirk runs circles around them...he can think and speak on his own. Students only know a scrpt given to them.

[@johnsegal445]

what a deranged lunatic

[@trumpbellend6717]

Yep I don't understand how we let kirk anywhere near our students

[@Joe-eo1uo]

How do you know right from wrong?? You think you were born with an objective sense of morality or that you were told from the very beginning "this is how we ought to behave"?

[@trumpbellend6717]

@@Joe-eo1uo "Right and wrong" are words that are relative to the actualization of a desired goal or outcome, absent said goal, the terms right and wrong become meaningless. My "goal" is the actualization of a healthy flourishing coperative society based upon our common desires with respect to wellbeing and the values it incorporates, empathy, respect, equality, altruism, reciprocity. That is why one "ought" to treat another's as you would like to be treated, One "ought not steal if you wish to live in a society were property is not stolen. One "OUGHT" not murder if they want to live in a society were people are not murdered. This is our "reference point" or standard. One "should" or "ought" do something if Its conducive with the actualisation of a situation that conforms with one's goals and values. These "values" themselves are subjective by definition however it is entirely possible to make Objective declarations or decisions 'Within a pre-agreed framework of subjective values'. Values are socially approved desires that are internalised through the process of conditioning, learning or socialisation and that become subjective preferences, standards and aspirations a shared idea about how something is ranked in terms of desirability, worth or goodness *What is your "goal" and why 'OUGHT' one do what your subjective God desires* ?? 🙄🤔

[@melissaculpepper7663]

This fast-talking-kid is more interested in a “gotcha” than actually trying to learn something. He doesn’t truly want an answer…he wants to hear what HE wants to hear. Just like the rich-young-ruler who asked Jesus what he needed to do to enter into Heaven. May this kid humble himself before God and follow Jesus Christ.

[@trumpbellend6717]

// "What he needed to do to enter heaven" // How telling that if Christian soteriology is correct the most important factor that differentiates those deserving eternal paradise and those deserving eternal torment is the geographical location one is born into. If one is born in Saudi Arabia there is about a 95% chance that you will belive in the "wrong" God and reject jesus and thus receive eternal damnation in a lake of fire. However be born into America and magically there is about a 95% chance that you will believe in the "right" God and thus receive eternal salvation. 👏👏 Allegedly this is the justice of a perfect omnibenevolent omnipotent omniscient loving God. The fact that many people who reject jesus often lead devout pious lives and follow very strict and demanding religious practices with regards to worship, diet, clothing and relationships is not a factor, these people seemingly reject jesus because they *"want to sin"* 🤔🤫 Some live lives of isolation and quiet contemplation taking vows of celibacy and silence but the loving jesus still deems these people unworthy of anything other than eternal torment. Conversely however a murderer so long as he truly repents and accepts Jesus on his death bed he can spend an eternity in paradise with those he murdered. Unless of course those people also found the "evidence" for your God unconvincing, in which case the murderer would be looking down from paradise on the people he killed as they too suffered for eternity with me 😡

[@nschlaak]

Anton LaVey's “Do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law” reigns supreme today. Even so, come Lord Jesus come, call us home now. Please.

[@lysanderofsparta3708]

I think it was Aleister Crowley who said that.

[@nschlaak]

@@lysanderofsparta3708 I appreciate the response to my post. If a person were to type in the quote that I copied & pasted from Google and which I forgot to cite, they would find that Anton LaVey said this one. I've been slightly misquoting it as "Whatever thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.". I also wasn't sure how to spell his name so I just copied the whole thing. Aleister Crowley said something else that I also loosely quote, "Today we call them Angels and Demons but who knows what we will call them tomorrow.". Both of these men were evil to their core and followed the same master.

[@paulthobe3489]

Objective morality is called ethics.

[@AmitBobrov]

That whole "There's no objective morality" and Marxism is actually good - is mostly a US collage thing. I'm an Atheist in Israel, I was taught that morality is mostly objective with some cultural variations, Plato & Aristotle had a lot of discussions on good and evil. The moment you can't say that slavery, pedophilia, murder and genocide are wrong, you've lost your way. In all honesty, I can't grasp how the greatest country on Earth with the best democratic system suddenly decided in Academia that western values are wrong. Seems suicidal to me, because the next generation of people will all be self-serving psychopaths. I wish you all the best and hope that the next president reforms higher education.

[@thewhateverwhatnot6314]

Everyone knows when things are objectively wrong. Children know these things even when no one else but their abuser or “example” have had access to them.

[@jenniferlampley8397]

God help us all. This is our future? I'm so scared.

[@Joe-eo1uo]

Prove to me God exists, I dare you! And make sure it's the right God hahah

[@geraldcouture5319]

I wish Charlie would have asked, is racism wrong, subjective or objective?

[@Janet-i3f3r]

One of the most abused words used is the word "like".

[@davidmrenton]

actually he is not as wrong as people think, except he is not consistent. Morality is a human invention and the reason we have it , it's produces a better society , if you think God doesn't exist, then there is no definite morality, only ones that work better , for the satisfaction of humans to live in peace and safety , it goes onto an existential question , what now is the repercussions of the barbarity of the roman empire, it resulted in todays civilisation, but all those who suffered because of it are long gone. What he was trying to say badly , i think is ,there are good ways to live, that produce a better society , but there is nothing inherent good or bad, we don't say a lion is bad for eating the cubs of a lioness. He messed up by saying Nazi's have the same right to say they are right, but likewise they are wrong, you can't have it both ways.

[@juntjtang]

Moral vs. opinion. It's not false to say different people/society could value different opinion. This is ture. The moral alos varies from culture to culture, society to society. While, the most important point is what's the moral should be for U.S. Amerian? What moral is better for a society to develop and improve? The reality has the answer. We can see millions of people moving into Europe and American from middle east, Asia. But we can never see the oposite population movement. We can see the most developed countries are those have one kind of value proposition, but the most poor and chaos countries have the oppsite of moral. This has explain the truth.

[@cassiebennet4262]

6:21 "No it's ok." 😂

[@johnb.shakoor2352]

Objective morality is wrong? How do you function in society with that attitude?

[@lauratran7638]

Not one person in this entire world can be altogether good without first obeying the conscience that was given to us by GOD. Funny how that works for the ones that try and convince theirselves that there is no God.

[@laycrow6959]

There is no god I think

[@Paulftate]

this DEI/CRT nonsense has gone to far

[@MrLeftshot]

The bottom line for this atheist: What an AWFUL way to live your life!

[@exomake_mehorololo]

My great grandfather was a staunch atheist but a very moral man. Probably for the better 😂don't need people around you which can't act on basic good and evil

[@taqiyyaconcarne6908]

Words on a page + privilege x entitlement = the notsee apologist in this video

[@barefootfather7022]

Exactly how is he a member of a certain German political party from the 1930s and 1940s? Can you give some examples?

[@Joe-eo1uo]

comment on KZbin + math x popular words and phrases = 0 fucks given

[@davidmrenton]

Lord of the Rings is a bad example to use, aside from the fact it's fundamentally a Christian allegory the lessons within LOTR are not fundamentally that different, the Bible is not to use as as recounting of history, it's a book of ways to live good, LOTR is no different in that respect, instead of Spirits, Angels, you have Ent's, Elves in many ways LOTR is the post industrial bible

[@charlesbingham9601]

Love it bible basic instructions before leaving earth

[@solusaldrain]

So there's no objective morality surrounding murder? I guess it doesn't matter of you get murdered then, eh?

[@trumpbellend6717]

Lol false dichotomy much 🤭😅🤣

[@Joe-eo1uo]

If you were stuck on an island and in order to survive you would have to kill your best friend would you do it? Oh yeah also, you grew up in a world where no one ever said "murder is wrong" you really think morality is "written on our hearts" then??

[@thomaschamberlain9811]

Both could be wrong too.

[@melissaculpepper7663]

So, this “kid. Is “comfortable” making a judgement call on the “goodness” of humanity. He is a denier of what his own eyes have shown him. He makes God a liar who says ALL have sinned and fallen short of the standard of God. God aid that None are good, except Jesus Christ.

[@trumpbellend6717]

I hate to be pedantic dear but "God" hasn't said anything, your citing words in an old book authored by superstitious uneducated iron age tribesmen.

[@brianbushfamily1814]

Charlie Kirk not kick

[@bradystroman7475]

The young guy didnt articulate it well but he has a point

[@rances73]

This generation is doomed.

[@trumpbellend6717]

If they base their morality on the perceived desires/nature of anyone's subjective invisible "God" There finished it for ya

[@Joe-eo1uo]

Every generation that ever lived was doomed from the get-go because everyone dies and no one can explain what happens after

[@TheWakeUpChannel]

This atheistic zero objective morality is so lame now. Yawn.

[@trumpbellend6717]

🤔 Hmm is your "opinion" with regards the "right" God subjective or objective?? Can we ground morality in "any" God or just the particular one YOU determined is the "right" one out of the many thousands man has invented ?? If your answer is the latter then in actuality its *YOU* and YOUR SUBJECTIVE OPINION that is determining morality dear. if your answer is the former, then asserting objectivity to any moral claim based upon a "God" becomes a completely vacuous useless concept 👍 The claim that theistic morality is somehow "objective" is ridiculous. Theists are merely substituting their own subjective moral standards with the morals standards of the god they subjectively determine represents the "correct objective" morality. 🙄🤔

[@bN1-0889]

stop stealing content

[@abelinogallegos7851]

You watched 9 minutes of a Charlie Kirk video and just wasted 3 minutes on a guy who peaks his mic with every s word he says. If your gonna react to work put the work as a link in the description

[@abelinogallegos7851]

“It would actually be positive for them” bro only you benefit off stealing their whole video 😭

[@Gman61306]

Attacking someone for the way they speak. How much lower could you get?

[@abelinogallegos7851]

@@Gman61306I’m not making fun of the way he speaks I’m making fun of the quality of the video, his mic is dog water. He is stealing a whole video😭😭

[@abelinogallegos7851]

What did you learn from his point of view ?

[@abelinogallegos7851]

This guys whole content is a joke. It’s literally just Charlie kirk videos with someone watching in the corner 😭

[@peterhaerens3014]

In this matter I totally disagree with Charlie. It's always a pity when he introduces his god, his bible and the 'soul' in the equation. This is really a very weak point that undermines (partly) his narrative. You cannot base a serious argument on religious and other unproveable drivel.

[@mcn111]

I suppose he has a line for an inteligent atheist, but there is no reason to show it before they actually met. There is a philosophy answers what is evil or good but it would be crasy to go that deep in this specific case. He is good though

[@lysanderofsparta3708]

There is no objective morality on an atheistic worldview. Your petulant hatred of Christianity and the Bible is never going to change that fact.

[@pjackson8322]

I agree with you. Charlie does have a lot of good things to say to make the world a better place. But in this case Charlie interrupted this kid alot when he was loosing the narrative and had to control the stage. This kid is clearly intelligent to have a deeper understanding of his views. It's a tough philosophy to live by which many people can't pull off without being corrupted to some degree.

[@TruckingCarsL48]

SO YOU THINK GASSING MILLIONS OF JEWS WAS OKAY? GOT IT!!!

[@lysanderofsparta3708]

I suppose you’d prefer an argument based on unprovable and illogical atheist drivel instead.

[@bobreil7464]

Nothing makes me more disgusted than when religion claims that it's the wellspring of morality, how do you think enough people lived together to establish a religion they had a moral mindset long before they had a religion or they wouldn't have had a large enough group to establish a religion use a little common Sense would you please. Your chicken and egg argument false far short of logic.

[@hellogoodnite8447]

You’re already assuming the religion is false just as they’re claiming morality comes from religion because it’s true.

[@trumpbellend6717]

​@@hellogoodnite8447 I "assume" religions are false for the same reason I "assume pink unicorns are false. I will let you figure it out dear 😜

[@woe4222]

The specific argument of “he wasted his whole life before coming to Christ” is such an earthly argument, it doesn’t even come close to God. What is 91 years to God, who is eternal? What is 91 years “wasted” compared to eternity of love and paradise? What is one moment of love and grace in comparison to eternal acceptance? People who compare Earthly lives are forgetting the real goal.

[@Joe-eo1uo]

I think the real goal should be making the most of life on Earth because you have no clue what happens afterwards. And even if your spirit lives on what good is it if it's not like it is on Earth? What good is life with God if you constantly feel like He doesn't exist?

[@oceanbnd]

Thank you for sharing this video THE PERSEVERANCE. Thank you for allowing it to play out without injecting your opinions too much in between. I hadnt seen this video before from Charlie. Thank you for your comments afterwards. The atheist was horrible in his thoughts. He WAS accepting of how things were in the holocaust as HOW PEOPLE ARE. I don't accept that as normal behavior. We can't allow that to EVER happen again. We must stay vigilante against it.

[@Joe-eo1uo]

if everyone knew the objective morality... why do you think Hitler would do such a thing?? Was he just unaware of objective morality? Or, is it possible that there is no objective morality and things are the way they are because of Darwinism?

[@suedouglas5455]

He’s forgetting that Jesus created us with morals. We instinctively know morally what is right and what is wrong, God has written it on our hearts.

[@ronlanter6906]

He is not forgetting. He was never taught.

[@Danitux11]

Ok, so there's people that do not believe in that since the statement you just made is very specific and hard to prove. There is this thing called "philosophy" were people think stuff that's not exactly the same as your view. One of this views is his, including an objective morality (I agree with him). If you have any questions or counter arguments I would love to have a nice debate.

[@Danitux11]

Ok, so there's people that do not believe in that since the statement you just made is very specific and hard to prove. There is this thing called "philosophy" were people think stuff that's not exactly the same as your view. One of this views is his, including an objective morality (I agree with him). If you have any questions or counter arguments I would love to have a nice debate.

[@trumpbellend6717]

You say that *_"God has written morality on our hearts"_* but there are several rather obvious problems with this assertion. Firstly if that were indeed the case then we would all regard the *SAME* "God" to be moral and regard the *SAME* scriptures and the laws they contain to be "moral," this is most certainly NOT the case. Most people do NOT think it immoral for a female to uncover her hair in public or to not face a specific landmark and pray five times a day. Most people in the world are just fine with eating bacon, wearing clothing of mixed fabrics and even picking up sticks on any day of the week. We do NOT think that our unruly rebellious children who disobey their parents ( sounds like most teenagers to me ) are deserving of the death penalty and we recognise that an instruction to _"Buy your slaves from the heathen nations that surround you"_ could never represent guidance from a perfect omnibenevolent unifying moral standard. We do however all have commonly held values found the world over irrespective of which religion or NO religion. These value all conform with our ideas about human wellbeing. They are the basis for our ethical and legal systems the world over and for the most part it is only the concept of SIN ( perceived transgressions against the whims of subjective invisible beings ) that the disagreement occurs. Im not speculating here or just giving you my "opinion" the above is all *FACT* regardless of the existence or non existence of ANY "God". Given this, should humanity adhere and aspire to the common values that unite us all and have real impacts on real people here in the real world. ? Alternatively should we continue on trying to impose the perceived whims of our own subjectively determined invisible "one true God" that divide humanity and have no positive impact on wellbeing that can't also be attained via secular morality ?? Come on surely we are better than this, the sooner the world throws out like old furniture these gods and their barbaric religious ideological baggage the better.

[@trumpbellend6717]

​@@ronlanter6906 You're confusing "indoctrination" with "teaching dear 🤭

[@janeknight3434]

The simple guideline for right or wrong, regardless of religion or not, should be Does this action cause harm or suffering? Not - Do I CARE if it causes suffering. If it causes suffering, it is wrong.

[@ronlanter6906]

What about chemotherapy? It causes suffering (to the individual receiving it) and harm (many people die from it instead of chemo killing the cancer). Your statement does not hold water.

[@PrinceTerrien]

Why should it?

[@deprecated8036]

what about good suffering with hard labor like exercising/working out and doing a needed job no one wants to do but helps society thrive?

[@trumpbellend6717]

​@@ronlanter6906 Morality is frequently a matter of judging "the lesser of two evils" its a balancing act, a "trade off" were one is constantly evaluating the consequences of their actions relative to the desired common goal one is trying to achieve, the specific situation, our understanding and knowledge of it and the range of posible alternative actions and outcomes available. The common goal we are trying to achieve does not change, however the other factors most certainly can. We are self aware conscious pain and emotion feeling individuals capable of love or hate, incredible acts of altruism or depravity. It's how we navigate through life and these potential extremes that define us, not our belief ( or lack of ) in anyone's specific subjective invisible "God"

[@trumpbellend6717]

​Why don't you simply define the terms "right" and "wrong" for us all dear ?

[@StevenZeller-eh7yr]

Nobody needs religion. We need Jesus!!

[@chinaboss6683]

Dont need religion, only need to arm yourself.

[@horse-lover68]

Every person has a moral compass if they know something about religion or not, it is called consciousness!!!!

[@mrgjs4044]

I really wish that student would save the oxygen and get to the point 🤣🤣... He's doing a lot of chatter and very little points to be made!

[@robertcook6986]

So essentially he said nothing lol. What a good nilesist.

[@Joe-eo1uo]

kind of like your comment....

[@ericpanissidi6761]

Dad"son, i saw you talking on charlie kirk, i wont be paying for your school anymore"

[@jessewhite2879]

This dude is really putting atheists in a bad spot😂 most of them know right from wrong and believe in objective good and bad. Pls don’t listen to this guy.

[@Joe-eo1uo]

let's say hypothetically you grew up in a world where no one ever told you "murder is wrong" and "helping people is good" would you still know right from wrong?? I think you would act like an animal and try to survive no matter what! I guess you would say otherwise?

[@jessewhite2879]

@@Joe-eo1uo yeah ofc but that isn’t the case now is it? I’m not saying reliegious beliefs haven’t played a huge role in shaping our morality. Regardless of that tho, most human beings have sympathy without believing in a god, which then indirectly shapes morality. That’s like saying all atheists are animals and live in an anarchy, which clearly isn’t the case. Do you see Neil Degrasse Tyson going around murdering people? Do atheists have no values at all? I know that to be wrong. You can be a critical thinker and still be a good person.

[@Joe-eo1uo]

@@jessewhite2879 "yeah of course" okay you just proved that there is no objective morality!!! You would NOT know right from wrong or else you would do the right thing would you not (keep people alive)?? This world is based on survival of the fittest and yet for some odd reason we believe that since we have self-consciousness there MUST be a loving God who judges us by our hearts... but what if I were to tell you that God made this world like a huge game and maybe there's no other point to it other than having him try to coax you back to Him to see if you'll listen. But why are there different religions if there is only one true God? Why are there atheists if God truly exists? BECAUSE WE DO NOT KNOW!!!! We use specific circumstances to try to prove the truth of things but I think we honestly have no clue about how the world works.

[@jessewhite2879]

@@Joe-eo1uo how am i to say tho, i don’t know what i would or wouldn’t do. I believe some people need to get it teached to them and others just have common sense within a society. I never fought people, i never picked on people and none of my parents really installed that within me as a kid, i just knew. I never said objective morality is true among all people, i just believe it «should» be. Charlie too didn’t say it’s true really, it’s just a reach for goodness. It’s what should be true therefore i think objective morality should be established in everyone’s minds even tho in reality that’s never gonna happen.

[@jessewhite2879]

And Yes we really have no idea what is real and what is not, there’s no way to know for sure. A 100% with you on that one, but that’s why there’s faith. Different religions is also another dilemma right ? But is it more likely that only one of them is right or that all of them are wrong? I don’t know, but damn, probably the latter from a logical standpoint imo. I believe if there is a god, we’d be too stupid to interpret god for who he really is, i mean c’mon there’s like 1000’s of religions. Every single one of them believes they are right and if you got the wrong religion you’d end up in hell while everyone are biased to where they grew up. If you’re born in a muslim country you’re more likely to end up as a muslim right? But if Christianity is true then you’ll not be able to enter heaven when you die. What about people who are born in tribes who has lived their entire lives in oblivion to a god, are they just gonna burn in hell for the rest of eternaty because they never even had the information to begin with? What a «morally» right god, right? I don’t like blasphemy and i’m not trying to come off that way, but the more you look into it the more the pieces fall apart. I dunno, maybe the devil is decieving us.

[@KLGB420]

I just found you today. You've got a new subscriber.

[@Ela167]

Neither is true. Fact.

[@washingtonwtf4748]

Thank you for making your video focusing on discussion and not drama. Doom scrollers beware!

[@lindickison3055]

Yea!!!! Another student who can articulate....vs reading a phone!!!!! (Even if he doesnt know what.. )

[@worldclassicguitarists]

Stands there thinking of what he's gonna say to 'win' this perceived 'argument' with. Hates knowing he's waaaay out of his depth. Boldness and sense of superiority can look alike.

[@trumpbellend6717]

Yep that's Charlie kirk alright

[@flying_salt]

That kid makes very good opening arguments in this one. There is no objective morality. Morality is a moving sum of what is good for every member of society and this 'good' can be traced down to the fundamental laws of nature - think survival of species. Charlies loses me when he introduces creationism and the moral argument to explain where humans derive morality from. My question is, if the Bible is true, and objectively good in all times through time, why does Exodus 21: - sounds horrible to any human living in any free society today. (it clearly, endorses slavery in God's own words. And you don't need any special interpretation for that matter).

[@fairgorn]

That kid is a serial killer in the making.

[@Joe-eo1uo]

I think everyone could possibly be a serial killer if societal laws/moral obligations didn't exist...and well I think that's exactly the case! There's no objective morality...prove me wrong!

[@thedevilseesu]

I will never send my kid to college if they turn out like these kids

[@IniquitousZ]

That people at large agreeing with moral nihilism would produce negative results has no bearing on whether or not morality exists. The fact that a belief leads to desired behavior does not determine whether or not that belief is true. If it did, there would never be a benefit to lying because the truth would always produce the desired outcome. As an atheist and moral nihilist, if it was within my power to snap my fingers and either make everyone believe that objective morality didn't exist like I do, or make everyone believe in objective Christian morality, I would choose the latter. Society works better when there are rules, and rules are more likely to be obeyed when people think they can't get away with breaking them. Contrary to what Kirk said here, I as an atheist do not believe people are basically good. I believe people are basically selfish, and generally need to be convinced, if not manipulated or threatened to behave otherwise.

[@thesearethedays9398]

Whether you live with hope or without it - you’ll be right in the end.

[@natashka1982]

I'm an atheist and a nihilist. But still have morals

[@jimstacey4588]

Finally an atheist who actually tells the truth

[@exomake_mehorololo]

So you know your beliefs could be plain wrong too?

[@IniquitousZ]

@@exomake_mehorololo they could, sure. I haven't been convinced that they are, but it's certainly a possibility.

[@felixliang7558]

Nobody in this comments section got past a third grade reading level

[@EdwardBaggettEdtrader]

Look, Its Doogie Howser.

[@thomasK411]

Jesus christ is my lord and my god

[@Joe-eo1uo]

Has He told you the purpose of life on Earth?

[@thomasK411]

@Joe-eo1uo he has spoken through his word very Cleary. Jesus died for your sins. I hope you repent. The sin of unbelief is one of the worst sins

[@Joe-eo1uo]

@@thomasK411 okay that didn't answer my question, what's the purpose of life on Earth? We're told to SERVE to be a SLAVE to God who has worked wonders and has all the power in the world but yet the ONLY purpose we have in this life is to be a SLAVE, tell me how that makes sense! And also this belief system just completely overlooks biology that a man and woman (aka your parents) came together had sex and created you from DNA! How much of this exchange was due to God??

[@omegapointil5741]

"WOKE" ACTUALLY MEANS AWARE AS IN NOT IN A COMA DEMONSTRATED BY TRUMP

[@edgaracajabon9522]

Woke means shit. The democrats are clearly more asleep than awake.

[@catalyst3713]

Charlie's conflating meta-ehtics with normative ethics.

[@emilfjachmann215]

Thanks!

[@phayetaylor6176]

Please speak slower so that you can be understood.

[@slicknavington]

That was not a good question

[@Businedu]

FIRE🖤

[@Reinierj100]

Actually, it is so wrong that even the SS guards had a psychological breakdown and had to force the prisoners to do the horrible deed instead.

[@trumpbellend6717]

The German population at the time comprised approximately 93% Christians. Both they and the Jewish people held The Old Testament in common and it was only with regards jesus being the Messiah that differences occurred between these two groups and yet 6 million people were killed. One group did the dying and the other group the killing but which group do you think was which ? 🤔 A couple of simple questions for you... ( 1 ) Do you think in 194'0s Germany the killing of six million people because they rejected jesus was disgusting and immoral like I do *YES or No* ?? 🤔 ( 2 ) Do you regard a god and theology that deems those who reject jesus as deserving of eternal torment in a lake of fire upon their death to be disgusting and immoral like I do *YES or NO* ?? 🤔 I ask because the world recognises the depravity of the former but Christians claimed the latter is the morality of a PERFECT omnipotent omniscient omnibenevolent loving God 🙄

[@scottmason6972]

I get what he’s saying but at the same time I don’t get how he can believe it. I would say that everyone in their heart knows that murdering an innocent individual is wrong. That would imply an objective morality. You can argue where it comes from but to claim morality isn’t objective is ludicrous

[@trumpbellend6717]

I think you will find that those "murdering innocent individuals" clearly don't think its "Wrong" dear

[@cassiebennet4262]

8:04 No not everyone has empathy young man.

[@trumpbellend6717]

Most people do NOT think it immoral for a female to uncover her hair in public or to not face a specific landmark and pray five times a day. Most people in the world are just fine with eating bacon, wearing clothing of mixed fabrics and even picking up sticks on any day of the week. We do NOT think that our unruly rebellious children who disobey their parents ( sounds like most teenagers to me ) are deserving of the death penalty and we recognise that an instruction to _"Buy your slaves from the heathen nations that surround you"_ could never represent guidance from a perfect omnibenevolent unifying moral standard. We do however all have commonly held values found the world over irrespective of which religion or NO religion. These value all conform with our ideas about human wellbeing. They are the basis for our ethical and legal systems the world over and for the most part it is only the concept of SIN ( perceived transgressions against the whims of subjective invisible beings ) that the disagreement occurs. Im not speculating here or just giving you my "opinion" the above is all *FACT* regardless of the existence or non existence of ANY "God". Given this, should humanity adhere and aspire to the common values that unite us all and have real impacts on real people here in the real world. ? Alternatively should we continue on trying to impose the perceived whims of our own subjectively determined invisible "one true God" that divide humanity and have no positive impact on wellbeing that can't also be attained via secular morality ?? Come on surely we are better than this, the sooner the world throws out like old furniture these gods and their barbaric religious ideological baggage the better.

[@cassiebennet4262]

@@trumpbellend6717 I don't know much about religion and I couldn't care less. I believe in Jesus Christ and want nothing to do with vain, repetitious traditions. I'm not sure why you felt the need to go on a sanctimonious diatribe when I simply pointed out that not everyone has empathy.

[@trumpbellend6717]

@@cassiebennet4262 // I believe in Jesus christ" // Lol SO WHAT ? Your beliefs are subjective and _"not everyone has __-empathy-__ _*_Belief in jesus_*_ young man"_ 🤫

[@cassiebennet4262]

@@trumpbellend6717 What are you on about? Jesus Christ's standards are outside of myself. Do you not understand what subjective means?

[@trumpbellend6717]

@@cassiebennet4262 I think you will find that *"SUBJECTIVE"* is defined as ... *Subjective* _Based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions_ *"objective"* is best defined as... _Not based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions_ _non dependant upon a mind, or true irrespective of a mind_ Your perception of the "correct" God that represents the "correct" Moral standard is entirely a subjective matter dear. 😜

[@graysonsheridan1593]

Stop stealing CONTENT!!!!!

[@kathyflorcruz552]

Unless TPA or Charlie has a copywrite claim other people can share the modified content for several reasons.

[@Iyiouseismouse]

The Bible says things like “If your neighbor worships another god then you should kill him, and if you fail to do that then you should be killed.” We don’t live those parts of the Bible. In fact a lot of the Bible is ignored even by very devout believers. I think it’s human solidarity and a natural instinct to further our species that is the closest thing to what “good” is in terms of the human experience. Even as an atheist you can say “I had a good day. It was a Birthday or Holiday and we celebrated and I enjoyed it.” Or you could say “I had a good day. I busted my butt building a shelter for charity, and it hurt, and I sweat and toiled, but it got done. It was good, but I’ll be sore tomorrow.” There are different types of what good is, but overall whether it’s frivolous pleasure or working to serve humanity, the main point is that it is in the betterment of our species or ourselves individually that normally represents good. So you could also say, like Charlie said, “I killed thousands today, it was a good day.” If you are a psycho who loves killing or who is brainwashed.., but the bottom line in my opinion, is that good has to do with the overall furthering of humanity.

[@lysanderofsparta3708]

That made no sense at all.

[@jnsmill]

By what standard do you use to determine what a good day is, or what’s a bad day… if there’s no supreme creator, then there can be no right or wrong, good or bad, your good might be bad to me and vice versa. As an atheist you obviously believe that nothing created everything that’s in the universe. That animals just happen to know what species they flock to, or what they eat, I just don’t have that much faith.

[@Iyiouseismouse]

@@jnsmill That is exactly what I was getting at when I talked about the different semantics of what good is when viewed from different people’s perspective. Also, I didn’t say I am atheist. I am agnostic, but I have studied religions a bunch and can appreciate what they do for many people. I was just making the point that even as an atheist, while good and bad are subjective to the person, I think human solidarity as well as the fact that humans couldn’t even create a civilization without the instinctual drive to do good or at least be useful to others around us for personal preservation explains what is a morally good or bad for humanity in general. You are right when you mention how animals happen to know who to flock to. The very fact that this happens is why these animals exist an all. It is the same with humans. If you take out that part then you don’t end up with a civilization. Or with any species surviving at all. A bit off topic, I think it’s kind of like the thought exercise when considering how so many things had to be exactly right for us to be here and ponder questions like this. I think it’s just because that’s what had to have happened or else we wouldn’t be here to ask the question.

[@Iyiouseismouse]

@@lysanderofsparta3708 you are correct, I was typing on the phone and a lot was screwed up. I tried to correct it a bit, but I’m no scholar. Hopefully it makes a bit more sense now.

[@boydordona5540]

The bible never said 'if your neighbor worship another god, kill him'. Pls don confuse bible with quran! The bible teaches 'love thy neighbor,' 'don do to others what you don want others do unto you!' Pls dont mutilate the bible!

[@bobreil7464]

Maybe focus on facts which is your group strength stop trying to introduce people to your invisible friend that you have no proof of can't be seen nortech nor heard, I would just go with facts it makes you sound a lot smarter.