Charlotte de Polignac - Rose of Versailles

[@TonyBittner-Collins]

La Dauphine by Jean-Philippe Rameau. 😢 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKaVZIJ5fZWkm5I

[@Charmantkillman]

Thank you for sharing 😊

[@amanielwolde]

​@@CharmantkillmanThere is a "Rose of Versailles" playlist on Spotify, with all the music in the serie (Rameau, Boccherini, Muffat, Bach ).

[@pianofranck]

In actual history, Polignac's eldest daughter, Aglaé de Polignac married the duke, 13 years her senior, at the age of 12 and had three children. After the outbreak of the Revolution, she fled France and settled in Edinburgh, Scotland, where she was burned to death in a fire in her 30s.

[@Dannoranejiku]

Wow I didn't know about that at all... Could you tell why she had to die in such a spiteful way even so far from France after the revolution ?

[@amanielwolde]

Music are n 1069 Bach, 2:20 Luigi Boccherini "Cello Concerto n.9 in B Flat major, G 482 : II Adagio Non Troppo. The last music is Rameau "La Dauphine".

[@pameliemusic]

thankyou!!!

[@genchandler5208]

The mother should be added to one of the WORST anime moms.

[@choco_27361]

Yeah

[@RS-xg2mo]

ベルばらの中で一番記憶に 残るラストシーン。 ロザリー役の声優、吉田理保子さんの気持ちのこもった セリフが忘れられません😭

[@C.V.20]

You know, Charlotte died in two different versions. In the manga version, she thrown herself off the staircase in the palace garden. However, in the anime version she committed suicide by jumping off the roof of the palace.

[@ElectricShark]

In the manga, Oscar tried to save her too.

[@peppersteak909]

ElectricShark But Oscar failed... Fate?

[@peppersteak909]

OR JUDGEMENT ?

[@山辺優-e2d]

Shoulder of Oscar…. What it means ?

[@emanueledeyohansen3528]

And in reality Aegle de Polignac died in a fire in a castle in Scotland .

[@ayesha_h]

In the manga, there's a scene where Rosalie consoles Charlotte and Charlotte is so grateful that someone understands her pain that she says Rosalie is like a big sister to her. It's a shame the anime cut that scene out entirely. It was such a special bonding moment between the two sisters.

[@karonchan]

子供の頃見て震えた衝撃的な回でした😢

[@BC-sv9mw]

Charlotte decided she'd rather die than marry a middle aged creep. I can't blame the poor kid. :(

[@jeanne8784]

she didn’t really rather that. i think she just lost her mind as a result of how terrified she was , she couldn’t handle the idea of being married to that man so she got mentally ill and committed suicide

[@genchandler5208]

I agree with Rosalie. Some blood relatives CAN be complete strangers.

[@genchandler5208]

Charlotte decided she'd rather die than be forced to marry a giant freak. Which was why she committed suicide. However, it was really her mother who killed her.

[@Niko9mmykepazaa]

the hand kiss and the girl washing her hands are actually more fishy metaphor.s It was implied Charlotte decided to kill herself because she was raped.

[@山辺優-e2d]

FUCKIN’ Mrs. Yolande de Polastron did not regret charlotte’s death. Mrs. Yolande de Polastron forced to her big sister “Rosalie” to marry same daddy’o again.

[@山辺優-e2d]

@@Niko9mmykepazaa Charlotte 11 years old is fell in love with Oscar. I think that Charlotte wanted to fall love in with Oscar or other handsome men. Mrs. Yolande de Polastron the money-mad is stupid. She must be cursed.

[@raquelitamacias4503]

@@Niko9mmykepazaa yo lo entendí así cuando el la beso solo fue un beso en la mano desde estaba preocupando por lo que iba pasar en el matrimonio Pero cuando murió sentí tristeza y pensé que era para estar casado con ese hombre malo nunca imaginé que era más cruel como una violación

[@samojede6776]

​@@Niko9mmykepazaacan you please explain the metaphors?

[@공빈-q3c]

It's an animation, so it's a pure hand kiss, and what the writer wanted to express was Charlotte, a young lady who was raped by a duke. Poor Charlotte.

[@robynsegg]

You're absolutely right. The first time I saw this, I thought she overreacted. When I watched it for the third time I got it. This kiss on the hand was symbolism for rape. That 43-year-old fat assed POS pedophile raped an 11 year old girl. 😠

[@ElectricShark]

In the manga, Lady Oscar cared and tried to stop Charlotte from committing suicide but here, it seems like she had no emotion really. She seemed to be only concerned about Rosalie's reaction. Kind of bothers me

[@wojak-sensei6424]

Her whole arc with Rosalie kinda bothered me. "You're a peasant girl who has a murderous intent on a noble? Well, that's fine by me! Talk to Andre for some sword lessons or something." I know Polignac was becoming a bad influence on Marie, hence Oscar decided to get on her case a bit, but you'd think she'd be the first person to dissuade Rosalie from doing this. Her and Andre are almost nonchalant about it. Probably because they don't see Rosalie as a person that would do such a thing, but she's still a stranger who almost killed her mom. And the whole deal with Charlotte is also quite strange.

[@Mistress9Tomoe]

I was surprised that I suddenly started to like Charlotte, although she acted rude to Rosalie. Charlotte was of course a bitch at first, but on the inside, she was still a pure young lady who wanted true love like Oscar.

[@Pollicina_db]

I mean she was only 11 child and was heavily influenced by her mother who was a very cruel person, so I wouldn’t blame her.

[@pillbobaggins2766]

watching her scrub her hands in the fountain made me tear up.

[@falconeshield]

Because the Duke didn't....exactly just take her hand

[@tenpenthouse]

Rosalies reaction was amazing.

[@inessladia5747]

People are so weird here, we are talking about child abuse.

[@ericclanche5294]

En plus, c'est sa propre mère qui l'oblige à épouser ce gros porc😨😰! Alors qu'elle n'a que 11 ans 😱🤢🤮!!!

[@reijh1657]

Según muchos dicen , que en verdad Charlotte fue violada y por eso se sentía sucia , eso da muestra de que se lave para estar limpia después de semejante abuso . Charlotte prefirió el suicidio y no volver a pasar toda esa pesadilla de nuevo. :'(

[@Gauthier3891]

Claro es sutil pero se entiende. En realidad no fue un beso sino fue abusada por ese viejo cochin0. Por eso ella enloquece y dice miren ya mis manos están limpias ya soy pura como está rosa

[@bria78]

The animation is clear. It’s just a handkiss but it is the way the old duke forced her into the room that suggests Charlotte her destiny. That guy would have really raped her whenever he wanted, once she’d become his wife. That’s why she prefers death.

[@christianhuayna3318]

fue lo que paso en verdad. La hija de la madame de polignac tenia 12 anhos y su madre avalo esa union por mantener su estatus. El tipo en mencion era un pedofilo conocido de ese entonces, que violaba ninhas que se llamaba Antoine V de Gramont o el duque de guiche.

[@miguelgabriel6975]

o sea que la de verdad también se lavo las manos?

[@nicolettabonauguri1894]

Povera ragazza 😢😢😢😢😢 Che fine tragica😢😢😢😢😢 Tutto ha causa della madre che pretendeva che sposasse un"vecchio schifoso.😢😢😢😢😢

[@Helga7850]

io a 11 anni giocavo con le bambole.

[@内原剛美]

デュバリーよりも、ジャンヌよりも、 ポリニャックが一番嫌い。

[@danielalexandrofrancorueda7345]

Pobre niña.. Cuantas como ella, aun hoy en día pasan por esto...

[@Fairy_DeAragon41]

😢

[@GraciaTLV]

Solo... Hay que seguir adelante... Sin rendirse.... La muerte es el camino más fácil de verdad....

[@hecatestark9129]

Poor little white rose.

[@山辺優-e2d]

May no one will born such victims.

[@tommyheywood3853]

Japanese animation is really amazing

[@genchandler5208]

The French from back in those times would've loved it. They'd say it is well done.

[@elcaminantederosenheim6106]

Antes su animacion era sobresaliente ahora ha decaído bastante, ya que solo es un monton de animes de genero isekai en donde se abusa del fanservice barato (no tiene "esencia").

[@Pollicina_db]

@@genchandler5208 Actually many Europeans love Rose of Versailles, in Italy its known as Lady Oscar

[@hanyuufurude740]

This made me when i was 10 so upset and i really tough all parents would do that and i swear i had nightmare because of that😢

[@robynsegg]

Marilyn Monroe once sang "A kiss on the hand maybe quite continental..." this however, is NOT one of those times. Poor Charlotte.

[@sora7406]

たったの11歳で変態公爵と結婚なんて自分でも狂って自殺するわ…本当にこの回はシャルロットがかわいそうでした。。原作ではロザリーをお姉さんだと知らずとも和解するのにそれがなかったのが残念です😢

[@sakuraknight7176]

Ho ancora i brividi... povera Charlotte 😔💔

[@エリーヘレン]

醜い蛙に呑み込まれそうな小さな蝶。幼さゆえに逃げ場もない。飛び降りでの、体中の骨が折れ、砕けるような音が痛々しいわ…😣

[@amanielwolde]

Only this masters can put Bach as soundtrack in Rose the Versailles ! One of the saddest scenes in Anime history.

[@albicocca2585]

you know the name of the song?

[@amanielwolde]

@@albicocca2585 Bach 1069, then Boccherini 2:20 "Cello Concerto n.9 in B Flat major, G482. Adagio non troppo II ". Then "la Dauphine" de Rameau.

[@blackiesun]

⁠it's not a song. It's a piece of classical music. When will you learn classical music don't have songs?

[@albicocca2585]

@@blackiesun sorry i don’t speak english very well , i’m italian

[@HalcyonxTeatree]

Stressing the importance of washing your hands in 2020

[@hejarmikami5828]

Halcyon90 yes😂😂👍👍

[@-.-S20]

🤣😂🤣

[@dny4469]

Lmao

[@genchandler5208]

@@dny4469vv vvvvvvvvv4c

[@genchandler5208]

Charlotte seemed a bit older than 11.

[@stefyspirituale8813]

Poverina...che brutta fine ha fatto......

[@rebba_army3426]

solomylove my love perfavore mi dici che puntata è??

[@LapisLazuli03]

@@rebba_army3426 si chiama "un matrimonio imposto" e la trovi in streaming

[@rebba_army3426]

@@LapisLazuli03 grazie mille😊

[@amnotlisa]

good voice actress

[@amnotlisa]

waving skirt looks like sailormoon

[@davidemagnaghi170]

Un cartone animato tristissimo, il piu triste in assoluto.

[@CarolinaBaunilhada]

I'm not a fierce fan of animes. I've watched a few titles over the years. But, I guess, that this sequence is one of the saddest of all animes published till this day.

[@melissamedinaquiles9396]

Poor charlotte is her mother fault that she commited suicide😡😡😡😡😡🤬

[@增田千和增田千代增田]

정녕... 사랑하지도 않는 사람과의 정략결혼이란 것을 피할 방법이 저것밖에 없었을까요? 에휴~! 정략결혼을 해야했던 저 근대의 모습은 너무나도 슬프기만 합니다.

[@Montezuma777]

Essa é uma das cenas q mãos pesou pra mim 😢

[@4YU_KiE]

Such a good dubbing 😌

[@genchandler5208]

No wonder Rosalie hated her true mother.

[@falconeshield]

This would've been her if she was kept in court

[@katiaplantscientist]

This was one hardcore anime!

[@micoldelmonte3685]

Comunque il baciamano di de Guise è una censura dell'anime temo. Mi sa infatti più di una scena di stupro anche perché poi lei impazzisce e si uccide, tra l'altro lui la chiude dentro una stanza a chiave

[@annieleonhart]

Nel manga la stupra? E nell’anime è solo baciamano?

[@barb7084]

Ma no è un baciamano. Solo che x una bambina di 11 anni è un trauma, anche perchè il tizio è vecchio e ributtante. Non per niente lo associa ai rospi della fontana.

[@LapisLazuli03]

@@barb7084 esatto, che scena rivoltante, non avevo capito però che i rospi erano un riferimento a lui, la madre è stata crudele perché sapeva che Charlotte non voleva sposarlo ma l'ha costretta, l'unico modo che aveva la piccola per non farlo era uccidersi come ha fatto. Comunque incredibile che un uomo di circa 46 anni si voglia sposare con una bambina di 11, purtroppo questa cosa succede ancora oggi in alcune culture... Charlotte è uno dei miei personaggi preferiti e mi dispiace per lei perché ha fatto una brutta fine

[@giadacarbone770]

Credo che il baciamano sia infatti una metafora: perché sennò costringerla ad appartarsi con lui e chiudersi a chiave in una stanza ""'solo""' per baciarle la mano?

[@evagiagnorio5464]

Nella realta' Charlotte non fece quella fine...

[@yg1307]

And Oscar 🧘

[@annanaccarato6967]

Per i soldi vendevano le figlie maledetti so che i soldi servono però ha tutto ce un limite se nn ce amore nn ce nulla la madre aveva venduto la figlia e lui l'aveva comprata che roba 😓

[@annamarialattanzi6463]

Quindi. In. Tutti. I. Periodi. Storici. Esisteva. La. Cattiveria. E. Il. Proprio. Tornaconto. A. Partire. Dalla. Comparsa. Di. Adamo. E. Eva. E. X. La. Disobbedienza. Loro. A. Pagato. Con. La. Propria. Vita!!!!

[@annamarialattanzi6463]

Nostro. Signore. Gesù cristo

[@nurmartinsosman5517]

Charlotte of Polignac died?

[@sora7406]

シャルロットの全身の骨が生々しく砕ける音と、容赦なくみせる半目の死に顔…リアルすぎる…

[@エリーヘレン]

シャルロットを例えた薔薇はどんな色かしら？

[@taeko3508]

She did

[@jade5202]

i think Charlotte story in the anime is better than the manga.

[@mabelbernini3193]

La colpa è della madre.. 😡😡😡

[@micoldelmonte3685]

Beh purtroppo queste cose non erano infrequenti. Se tu vedi Marianna Ucria il marito Pietro ( che era suo zio) la stupra a 6 anni e lei per il trauma diventa muta. Viene poi costretta dal padre a sposarlo e gli da cinque figli

[@micoldelmonte3685]

Da notare poi come nessuno difenda questa bambina innocente da questo pervertito che la chiude dentro una stanza per farci chissà quali zozzerie

[@bainofocone8087]

Poverina quando rivedo questa scena piango sempre😭😭😭😭😭😭 certa gente quando fa queste cose alle.loro figlie non sono degni di chiamarsi genitori

[@micoldelmonte403]

@@bainofocone8087 il fatto è che i nobili vedevano i figli come un investimento economico

[@bainofocone8087]

@@micoldelmonte403 si hai ragione però dovrebbero anche pensare che sono esseri umani e quindi lasciarli decidere chi vogliono sposare basta che sia nobile punto... che tristezza per la piccola Charlotte: morire in quel modo mi si è spezzato il cuore

[@paolalamaida444]

So sad😢

[@Helga7850]

CharlottOOO? O my God...the Japanese put an O to everything

[@micoldelmonte3685]

De Guiche quando ha sposato Agle ( a cui si ispira Charlotte), aveva 25 anni e lei 12.

[@angelgirl6025]

Micol Del Monte in “Lady Oscar” mi sembra che lui ha 43 anni e Charlotte 11 anni

[@LapisLazuli03]

@@angelgirl6025 si, dice così

[@emanueledeyohansen3528]

Infatti, aveva 25 anni. Era la norma nell'aristocrazia. Maria Antonietta si sposo' a 14 anni.

[@bria78]

Si con la differenza che fu un matrimonio felice ed ebbero figli.

[@micoldelmonte3685]

S

[@comunicazionemultimediale2242]

Struggente

[@raquelitamacias4503]

Aveces el dinero es maldito y la vez tan necesario A está pequeña le iba casa con ese hombre feo malo por qué tie plata y eso de dar poder de dar de mafiosos y por un título de conde que horrible 😭💔🥺💔💔

[@mabelbernini3193]

Perché non è intervenuta Oscar a trafiggere con la spada quel pancione!!!! 😠😠😠

[@sky-ok2kz]

今で言う毒親だな。今度はロザリーを毒牙に掛けようとするポリニャック夫人

[@山辺優-e2d]

ドギージュ侯爵もポリニャック伯夫人も見ているだけでムカつく。

[@内原剛美]

ほんっとに学習能力のない親ですね。 結局ロザリーはベルナールのもとへ行ってしまいますから、二人の娘を失って、ざまぁみろ！って思います。

[@bluesky-nu2lz]

自分の欲望を満たすために実の娘をその代償にする、こうなると毒親どころじゃない「鬼」だ。ホントにざまぁみろっていいたい‼️

[@vilmalazzarini8847]

This is sick

[@manepezua2718]

😢

[@micoldelmonte3685]

Vorrei sapere il nome della musica di sottofondo mi piace

[@emanueledeyohansen3528]

La musica e' sinfonia per piano o concerto per piano di J.Seb. Bach, n.1069 . Tutte le musiche sono di Bach, escluso il minuetto di Boccherini e la ost di Lady Oscar.

[@vittoriogirolimetto6083]

Come si chiama la musica al 2:20 ?

[@エリーヘレン]

貴族に産まれた母親には、子の気持ちを考えるということができないのかしら？家の地位を固めることしか考えられなくなるわけ？

[@andylove8537]

is..me....

[@山辺優-e2d]

VICTIM OF ERA....

[@Teclajellymon]

What does the fountain represent? I feel like there is some sort of symbolism I’m not grasping? I mean, in the flickering fragments showing her then the fountain head

[@falconeshield]

I always assumed the Duke took Charlotte's innocent with force. The kiss was metaphorical.

[@vittoriogirolimetto6083]

Come si chiama la canzone al minuto 2:20 ?

[@vittoriogirolimetto6083]

2:20 ost name ?

[@EzraOnEarth]

Wakare by koji makaino

[@amanielwolde]

"Cello Concerto n.9 in B Flat major, G 482 : II Adagio Non Troppo " by Luigi Boccherini, a bit mastered by the animation team. The last music is "La Dauphine" by Rameau.

[@sora7406]

自殺の直前にポリニャックが結婚はやめるって言ってくれたら思いとどまったかもしれないのに…かわいそうすぎる…

[@mabelbernini3193]

Si e poi si mette a piangere 😠

[@ايهحيدر-ف5د]

😯😢😟😦

[@guillermoguevara4332]

Como se transformó, el demonio entró en su debilidad, pobre niña, con una madre tan cruel y ambiciosa

[@Saori8724]

No digas pendejadas. Se volvió loca porque el cerdo la violó. Obviamente eso no iba a salir en el anime. Un poco más de perspicacia no hace mal.

[@antoniolobaton4965]

Claro es una niña de 11 años

[@memetrashhh8936]

@@Saori8724 no entendía eso del beso en la mano, me parecio demasiado como para q c suicidara... Ahora entiendo esa referencia :'v pobre charlotte

[@escolastica2926]

En el manga nunca pasa lo de la mano, ¿verdad?

[@merygallmetzer9874]

Mmmm mi hija igual me dijo pero no creia que se la habia violado

[@sultanmustfa7731]

3:04

[@mabelbernini3193]

Caricatelo in italianoooooo😂😂😂

[@mabelbernini3193]

Brava furba.. 😡😡😡

[@micoldelmonte3685]

La madre avrebbe potuto scegliere un marito migliore per sua figlia e non uno schifoso simile che oltretutto le fa questo

[@mabelbernini3193]

Micol Del Monte Appunto.. avrebbe potuto aspettare che la figlia crescesse e sposare un uomo che avrebbe amato davvero.. 😡😡😡

[@micoldelmonte3685]

@@mabelbernini3193 tra l'altro lui la violenta la povera Charlotte non le fa il baciamano anche perché poverina impazzisce

[@mabelbernini3193]

Micol Del Monte Bisogava buttare giù la madre da quel tetto.. 😡😡

[@micoldelmonte3685]

@@mabelbernini3193 appunto la madre infatti le poteva benissimo cercare un ragazzo giovane non questo bavoso pervertito che non vuole altro che usare violenza su questa povera bambina

[@mabelbernini3193]

La colpa è tua befana!!!!! 😠😠

[@ZeldaEd123]

To every REAL Inuyasha fan left, send this to every single SessRin you can find to show them what they're disgusting little ship is truly like.

[@Inco464]

They will say that Sesshomaru is handsome unlike the duke and he never forced Rin in anything

[@ZeldaEd123]

@@Inco464 Of course they would. I swear, they only defend it because Sesshomaru's good looking and they need someone to insert themselves as and Rin was the closest thing. If he looked like Nemesis from Resident Evil, they'd probably change their mind, tentacle thing and all.

[@robynsegg]

Me wondering why OP says nothing about Boku no Pico... or Enzai 🤔💭

[@ZeldaEd123]

@@robynsegg Because one of the big go-to defenses for the SessRin pairing is historical accuracy in relation to how nobilities would take up child brides and this clip is showing the historic reality of exactly what those marriages entailed which they conveniently want to ignore. Second, those titles have nothing to do with that fact. The latter one I've never even heard of, but if it's being mentioned in the same breath as Boku no Pico, I don't want anything to do with it and should be refused to have its existence acknowledged just like Boku because that is the only fate worse for any piece of media than being hated.

[@Pollicina_db]

@@ZeldaEd123 The thing is even way back then, people knew that in order for someone to have children one must be fully grown up and not only a literal child who maybe started her period. Also only royals made their children marry early, but only once they were 15 or so, normal folk married later. To conclude it all, people defending their sickness by saying that it happend in the past are in the wrong. Pedophilia, racism and sexism were and always will be wrong no matter what time period.

[@ClaudiorobytiscaliitCastagna]

Ma sempre che ne ha più di 11

[@ericasimoni2814]

L episodio più brutto più disgustoso....Sto pedofilo ripugnante....per nn parlare di quella madre immorale che si trovava ad avere la povera Charlotte 😢

[@エリーヘレン]

せめてシャルロットが、もう少し年齢が高ければロザリーみたいに、家を捨てて結婚から逃げ出せたかもしれないわね。そりゃ薄汚い変態中年男に一生愛を誓わされちゃ身投げするのも無理ないわ。😢

[@内原剛美]

こんな気味悪い男に自分の娘を嫁がせるなんて、ポリニャックは母親失格ですね。頭の中は金の事ばかり。

[@エリーヘレン]

おまけに娘の死を目の当たりにしてもまだ懲りずに…今度は脅してロザリーを。母親になる人間として、最悪のハズレガチャ。

[@pasionaria7568]

Povera bimba...

[@katiqhuatemala702]

Ces lo peor mierdaa soy un ascoo soy horrible

[@monoris2008]

死なれた方もたまらんな💦

[@sultanmustfa7731]

3:04