Chase & Priority Pass Restaurants | Don’t overreact. It’s FINE

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Matt Clausen

Matt Clausen

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@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
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@Cookiekaikai
@Cookiekaikai 8 ай бұрын
This is bigger than you think. Pp lounges are horrible, so the restaurant access was a key advantage over venture x. Keep in mind venture x af is -5 vs csr at 250
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 8 ай бұрын
I imagine around 50% of CSR cardholders will cancel asap or when AF comes due, or downgrade to CSP. And CSP is getting a refreshed too this yr.
@justcruisinmom1682
@justcruisinmom1682 8 ай бұрын
@@newagain9964 Why would we choose to downgrade why trust a company who is going to take away what they switch and bait you into. I just got the card just paid the $550 and then pay the 150 for my family to have the priority pass We just got our cards less than a month ago. We bought this card specifically for the use of the restaurants in the cafés in our summer vacation now we won’t even have it. We spent $4000 to get them out. Now all I wanna do is dump the card as soon as I can possibly use the points and everything else Chase office not to be trusted, and they make me angry.
@cpantherz757
@cpantherz757 7 ай бұрын
What is the refresh?
@00177454419
@00177454419 7 ай бұрын
No great loss. The ability to get a free burger a mile away from my gate isn't why I carry a premium credit card. They need to improve their lounge access and it seems they are doing that. I wasn't even aware that Chase was directly partnering with airline lounges. One visit to the Sapphire club at La Guardia was worth more than all the occasional free fast food I got from PP restaurants.
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 7 ай бұрын
Yeah. I’ve been meaning to check out the Lounge at LGA. Also, the Etihad play was Genius. Hope to see more of that from Chase going forward.
@geraldalves9107
@geraldalves9107 8 ай бұрын
PP restaurants was one of the major draws to the card and it is what separated the CSR from the other premium cards and now they won't even have that advantage anymore. If you don't have a Sapphire Lounge at your home airport, why bother upgrading from the CSP or getting the card at all? Sure they're starting to roll out more Sapphire Lounges but at the end of the day, there's still only 5 Sapphire Lounges compared to 25 Centurion/Escape Lounges. I think until they fully build out their lounge network, which may take years, they will need to refresh the card no doubt in order to stay competitive with the rest of the premium cards.
@DugrozReports
@DugrozReports 8 ай бұрын
Exactly. If you’re flying into and out of a lot of small airports, like Des Moines, Iowa, or Charlottesville, Virginia, you ain’t going to be getting a Sapphire lounge anytime soon!
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
All understandable. And Chase probably is fully aware and may be baking these into a refresh of the CSR and a Relaunch of the Ritz Card.
@finbarrsheehan8304
@finbarrsheehan8304 8 ай бұрын
I have a sapphire lounge in my home airport and it still wouldn’t make sense, I just don’t always travel through that terminal🤷🏽‍♂️
@robertjarrell7276
@robertjarrell7276 8 ай бұрын
PP restaurants was one of three reasons I was contemplating the Sapphire Reserve. That leaves primarily CDW and foreign parking! We will see.
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
It’s still a dang good card and I’m hoping this is the first signal of a refresh. Which it DESPERATELY needs.
@chadpennycuff
@chadpennycuff 8 ай бұрын
Its NOT fine. As somebody with a home airport without a legit lounge but a decent PP restaurant (Detroit). This justified the $250. Heres the thing. Nobody’s opening up lounges in lounge desserts. JFK, LGA, LAS, etc. already have crap ton of options. CSR - I’m out.
@justcruisinmom1682
@justcruisinmom1682 8 ай бұрын
Chad turn your card over Please call customer service phone number on the back. They are listening to what we all are saying. Let them know you’re mad. Let them know you’re going to be canceling. Your card is no longer doing business with Chase. And let the customer service agent know that you want that documented because they’re going to have a meeting here shortly and turn all that information over to upper management.
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 8 ай бұрын
Bruh. No one is more upset than plat holders about this news. Centurion/escape will some increases in visits. 😒
@williamking5260
@williamking5260 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, Denver centurion lounge is going to be crazy. I would normally skip the lounge if there was a line and just go to one of the PP restaurants. The restaurants would have 10-15 tables that had the CSR card.
@justcruisinmom1682
@justcruisinmom1682 8 ай бұрын
I think we all need to close our accounts with Chase Sapphire reserve on June 30
@justcruisinmom1682
@justcruisinmom1682 8 ай бұрын
Please if you see anything on Facebook or any other platforms, make the comment I know today I saw them advertising on Facebook and I am mediately went in and did the angry face and stated why. I was contacted by Chase within 10 minutes. Please get the information out there.
@robertjarrell7276
@robertjarrell7276 8 ай бұрын
I heard a lot of complaining when the Venture X lost PP Restaurants.
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
Sure. But people went right back to the “-$5 Annual Fee” and Capital One has continued to slice away at it
@CreditOneSux
@CreditOneSux 8 ай бұрын
This will definitely play a factor in whether or not I product change my bonvoy ballast to the Ritz-Carlton card! I know you said this isn't Doom and gloom, but losing the restaurant access is going to be pretty sad in my particular scenario. Sometimes some of these lounges are so packed that I wouldn't even be able to enjoy them, at least the restaurant option was a good backup. At least I have some travel before July 1st so I'm definitely going to take advantage for sure LOL
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
I know situationally it will be VERY different, I know that depending on how much you need them, the US Bank Altitude Connect is going to keep its Four passes…
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 8 ай бұрын
Lmao. Chase is STILL chase. 😂
@KeyKEYadventures
@KeyKEYadventures 8 ай бұрын
I travel about once per month. While it doesn’t change my thoughts on the effective annual fee. It does hit a bit, it’s so nice to grab a snack/ water bottles while I’m working a bit or even on a layover was clutch.
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
Makes sense. We’ll see what they have in store. Again, I doubt this is solely because of Chase.
@UAL320
@UAL320 5 ай бұрын
Speaking from an SFO perspective, all I can say is Yankee Pier, Giant’s Clubhouse, Lark Creek, and Mustard’s are going to turn into ghost towns. The average non-PP passenger would have to be out of their mind to pay “list price” for the quality of food served. My usual breakfast at these places (all run by the same airport vendor, BTW) was Sysco eggs and frozen potato cubes which rang up to very near the $28 benefit. I would have paid about $12 in “real life” had I not used PP. It’s truly “bar food” quality. I believe the whole business model was to make just a few bucks from PP for each visit (but huge volume) while also opportunistically skimming off whatever they could from the few “full price” customers that were willing to pay the 1000% profit margins from the menu prices (much lower volume).
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 5 ай бұрын
Unfortunate about the profit margins that they are choosing to run. With the majority of travel cards losing PP Restaurants, it may be time for these restaurants to either leave PP or do better
@AP_808
@AP_808 8 ай бұрын
It’s def a blow. The CSR had 3 things that made it special 1.5X in portal, best in class insurance and PP-restaurants. It’s losing something of note. I’m sure the CSR lovefest will temper. The Ritz card will be unaffected. Perhaps some minor bellyaching.
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
I’m not saying it’s not a blow. But just highlighting that it’s not hurting the other big cards
@SpencerJohnsonOfficial
@SpencerJohnsonOfficial 8 ай бұрын
I mainly care about the Chase lounge access, not Priority Pass, so this doesn’t really impact me luckily. Definitely a blow to the card, but not detrimental for me personally.
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
Yeah. It might hurt some options for me. But Lounges are still an option. So we’ll see what happens. Not a good change, but plenty they can do to offset it
@jinWhuang
@jinWhuang 8 ай бұрын
Huge difference when compared CSR with C1 VX and Amex Plat when they dropped the restaurant. Amex has many other networks on top of the PPS, and C1 VX has a effective annual fee of $0 (Amex also has enough coupons to cover a good amount of the annual fees)
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
We’ll have to wait and see. Chase had no reason to lose it. So something happened in negotiations. We’ll see.
@kevinManhattan
@kevinManhattan 8 ай бұрын
Not so worried even tho here in SFO they have some great PP restaurants. I have all big 4. so Still have access to those restaurants through USBAR. I am more interested in the upcoming refresh on CSR and CSP!!! Awesome updates Matt. Thank you!
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
I’m interested to see what they do as they NEED to do something.
@DugrozReports
@DugrozReports 8 ай бұрын
I’ve only used a Priority Pass restaurant twice ever… But both times it seemed like a lifesaver. I don’t know that it will change my desire to take a path to the Ritz Carlton card, but it definitely is a notch in the negative column. 😢
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
Certainly understandable. Altitude Reserve does save things on a MUCH MUCH more limited fashion, and the Connect is still keeping Priority Pass…
@DugrozReports
@DugrozReports 8 ай бұрын
@@MattClausen what sort of pp does connect have?
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
@DugrozReports select with restaurants, 4 passes, survived the nerfing that card took. It will be No Annual Fee with Pre-Check and 4 PP passes.
@DugrozReports
@DugrozReports 8 ай бұрын
@@MattClausen I suppose I could add connect to the AR to get from 8 to 12 passes…. 🤷‍♂️🤔 thanks!
@DugrozReports
@DugrozReports 8 ай бұрын
Maybe you could do a video going over every variation of Priority Pass and which cards have it.
@The_NomadNinja
@The_NomadNinja 8 ай бұрын
Great overview. The removal of restaurants on the Priority Pass happened to Amex in 2019 & Capital One Venture X in 2023. I assume it may not be profitable for the restaurants because I know I've taken a lot of advantage of the restaurant credits in the past. This is a bummer but I'll still use the CSR because the other perks of the Priority Pass with the Reserve still provide a ton of value.
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
Exactly. I wonder what Priority Pass was charging the Card Issuers to keep restaurants. Will definitely hurt the businesses either way. This doesn't move the needle for me and the CSR, I still like it and hope to see a refresh soon.
@justcruisinmom1682
@justcruisinmom1682 8 ай бұрын
I think it is such a loss for them, especially in the industry who has bought their cards that it is going like wildfire the information and I think it’s gonna backfire on them big time not only on reputation, but on the loss of card holders
@Xavier_ID.
@Xavier_ID. 8 ай бұрын
Agree with you. Not enough to kill the card but might be enough for some to skip over it and maybe hit up the Venture X 🤷🏻‍♂️
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
Business choices are what they are, but yeah it shouldn’t kill the card. Hopefully better things coming soon.
@TheAudioCzar
@TheAudioCzar 8 ай бұрын
Only reason I'm going to keep the US Bank altitude connect after it's been nerved is because of priority pass restaurant for no annual fee. We'll see how much longer it keeps it
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, that has been WEIRD…
@Nick-1828
@Nick-1828 8 ай бұрын
As someone with a PP restaurant in a home airport this is a big blow and knocks the CSR down unless they add a benefit, feature or multiplier. As of now my CSR getting downgraded to a CSP come renewal time unless they add something useful
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
Sure, and I get that. I’m sure something is coming.
@U23721
@U23721 8 ай бұрын
We only have priority pass restaurants accessible at our airport. I don't understand why it would only matter at 5x visits though (0:57) just one visit with a +1 is a free $56 credit. Every single visit is a 10.2% discount on the AF, and a single round trip flight can hit 4x. (1x on departure and arrival outbound, 1x on departure and arrival of the return flight)
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
The 5x visits to restaurants with a companion (the $56 credit) would cancel out the effective Annual Fee of $250 left after the Travel Credit if you used no other credit on the CSR.
@lilroscoe1000
@lilroscoe1000 8 ай бұрын
US Bank Altitude Reserve includes Priority Pass Restaurants. I believe Citi Prestige (discontinued), UBS Visa Infinite and Venture X Business are the other remaining cards with Priority Pass that can be used for restaurants. Outside chance that Wells Fargo and/or Citi (revamped)could step up and offer Priority Pass Select with restaurants.
@TheAudioCzar
@TheAudioCzar 8 ай бұрын
Us bank altitude connect also had priority pass restaurants
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
They definitely could. I was trying to see if there was a way to buy a PP Membership that includes restaurants. But their site is beyond infuriating. I’m blaming PP for now.
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 8 ай бұрын
@@TheAudioCzarnot for long
@lilroscoe1000
@lilroscoe1000 8 ай бұрын
@TheAudioCzar Good catch. Forgot about that card within US Bank's portfolio.
@JonsCreditAndTravel
@JonsCreditAndTravel 8 ай бұрын
Good info Matt. Definitely stinks for those that use the PP restaurants and were getting the value. Hopefully Chase has something in the works to replace or make it better.
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
I have a feeling they do
@SmoothMoneyMoves
@SmoothMoneyMoves 8 ай бұрын
So my guess is they have to revamp this card so might as well cut this now while they revamp credits. I went to 3 restaurants in Mia, SFO, and Seattle and the Miami and SFO restaurants were great and Seattle was good but only had appetizers and beer. It sucks but not the end of the world. I'd value this at maybe 100 bucks a year assuming 2 restaurant visits for 2 people on a round trip 🤷🏾‍♂️.
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
Yep. Plus I am imagining that they will continue investing in Airport infrastructure. Plus if there’s an appetite for it, a Few Airport restaurants could join Chase Dining and 10x points?
@SmoothMoneyMoves
@SmoothMoneyMoves 8 ай бұрын
@@MattClausen yea they could use that as an avenue to push chase dining. With the Instacart and door dash credits expiring, I imagine the changes will be worthwhile. I also think they are waiting for the platinum card to announce changes before they announce theirs.
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
While I can see that, they may as well just rip off the bandage. Beyond is coming.
@SmoothMoneyMoves
@SmoothMoneyMoves 8 ай бұрын
@@MattClausen given how the journey is I'm not sure chase or Amex are concerned about the Beyond.
@lewislouis6246
@lewislouis6246 8 ай бұрын
People are making a big deal out of really nothing. CSR is likely getting a total refresh, credits will be added certain credits will be gone. but I am sure at the end its gonna be a more powerful card. Always a great & informative video.....
@nysy97
@nysy97 8 ай бұрын
Hi. Is a refresh of the Chase CSP and/or CSR confirmed or is it just speculation? The CSR is one of the cards I’m contemplating (if offered on an elevated SUB). Not going to lie, the Sapphire lounges are a prime reason for that consideration (my hub is NYC) but I do wish the card offered other benefits other than DoorDash and Instacart. For sure, the 300 travel credit and awesome travel protections are great but it would be nice to offset the annual fee in other ways as I think I may only occasionally use the travel portal to book domestic flights.
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
So anything about CSP and CSR refreshes are purely speculation for now. Both cards however NEED to be refreshed. There’s always Chase offers that can help defray the costs of the Annual Fee as well as additional points (and points used to save on travel) in Chase’s shopping portal if you purchase things you would buy normally. Lyft Pink may also be of use (Citi bikes in NYC) as it credits two years of membership to you and you make 10x per ride. Just something to consider for now. But I think a refresh is coming.
@JuanGarcia-hr1wf
@JuanGarcia-hr1wf 8 ай бұрын
Nice update Matt. Although losing PP restaurants is a hit for both CSR and Ritz card, for me they are still keeper cards. Still have access for PP restaurants via USBAR
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
Makes sense. And that’s probably an easier way to use the Altitude Reserve than figuring out when to use a lounge etc.
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 8 ай бұрын
USBank is a no frills bank. They will definitely cut PP from cards.. by this time next year.
@justcruisinmom1682
@justcruisinmom1682 8 ай бұрын
It really pisses me off I just got the Chase sapphire reserve card. I’ve got it specifically for the priority pass and its perks that chase sapphire reserve offered. How dare they pull it out from under me when I had to pay $550 card $75 a person for the For my priority pass for each person over the primary card holder. Which I did got my cards a month ago for them to screw us over and not deliver what they sold us.
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
It’s keeping access to Priority Pass Lounges and Experiences, but if you got it for restaurants, that is unfortunate. They’ll likely be making changes to this card soon.
@justcruisinmom1682
@justcruisinmom1682 8 ай бұрын
@@MattClausen Matt, I didn’t pay $550 for access to some priority pass lounges. Especially when they’re generally in the Terminals I’m not in unlike the program they have now, if you haven’t looked at it recently you can pretty much eat for free at any airport you’re at. And go to lounges that are far more available than the ones that will be just with the Chase Sapphire lounges, which are not that prevalent
@qcman2000
@qcman2000 8 ай бұрын
Agreed that the restaurants will definitely be negatively affected. I recently flew out of T8 at JFK, which has a PP restaurant. The fact that they were a PP restaurant was prominently displayed & the host ask people if they had PP as they entered & a ton of people actually did, which probably told me a lot of CSR people (I’m guessing it was mainly CSR) knew & were taking advantage of it. W/CSR out, how many PP cards still have restaurants? A small minority?
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
Off hand: Altitude Reserve (8 passes with Restaurant) Altitude Connect (4 passes) Citi Prestige UBS Infinite A BofA card That’s kind of it.
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
Maybe Priority Pass will launch a Restaurant Tier
@vickiarnold7300
@vickiarnold7300 8 ай бұрын
I have a chase freedom flex and unlimited. Does chase dining work with these cards? Great video ❤
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
Freedom Flex and Unlimited have a dining category. But Chase Dining is only on the Sapphire Reserve (and I believe the JPM Reserve) it’s a 10x category.
@TeamTimeRiders
@TeamTimeRiders 8 ай бұрын
The chase’s priority pass access was great because it gives you restaurants and chase lounges which allowed it to pair well with the Amex plat. Now that it’s losing restaurants, there’s no reason to keep both cards anymore. There’s centurion lounges in every airport where chase has one, so for me, getting the card is moot.
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
Makes sense for now. Both cards due for refreshes. So we’ll see what happens.
@TeamTimeRiders
@TeamTimeRiders 8 ай бұрын
@@MattClausen what form do you think a refresh would take? I feel like all I’ve seen is cards taking away benefits, but never adding them. Aside from lounges, Chase doesn’t need to refresh since the other two options are not much better. They can just sit in mediocrity and be fine. At least the Bilt Mastercard is the best game in town.
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 8 ай бұрын
CSR been a 🤡card. If they were smart they drop AF to $395 and go after VX and other travel cards in mid tier. I Said it. Because there is only 1 premium travel card, 2 actually, both by Amex.
@CreditOneSux
@CreditOneSux 8 ай бұрын
Also, another question does removing the restaurants also remove the experiences? Spas, Sleep pods, etc.
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
The wording mentions Lounges and Experiences…so we’ll have to see
@newagain9964
@newagain9964 8 ай бұрын
Presume all non-lounge access.
@00177454419
@00177454419 7 ай бұрын
No it doesn't. They specifically said the experiences are remaining.
@MattMcGrathOfficial
@MattMcGrathOfficial 8 ай бұрын
Matt great video… Ritz still worth the product change IMO for the Sapphire Lounge access alone. A little off topic but as a fellow JetBlue card holder what are your thoughts on it going forward with all of JetBlues issues?
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
Ritz probably worth it yeah. I don’t know what to think about JetBlue. There’s going to be a lot of pain since there was no back up to the back up, and Carl Icahn doesn’t add value anywhere he just DESTROYS everything. I’m concerned
@MattMcGrathOfficial
@MattMcGrathOfficial 8 ай бұрын
@@MattClausen being based in NY it’s my go to airline that’s why I got the card. But they just cancelled some routes specifically the route to Lima that my wife and I frequent so the card may only last a year…
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
@@MattMcGrathOfficial also in NY and seeing a bunch of routes scuttled. I wonder if they can get back into the Northeast Alliance with AA. They may also need a bailout.
@finbarrsheehan8304
@finbarrsheehan8304 8 ай бұрын
It only took two trips out of my home airport with my girlfriend and/or family to make the the $250 eaf, $50. I don’t think anybody is worried about chase lmao, PP will almost certainly be ok as well. This really only hurts us.
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, I get that.
@caribdude8151
@caribdude8151 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the update Sir! Needed this! 👍
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
I do what I can. Thanks for watching!!
@fogrunr5075
@fogrunr5075 7 ай бұрын
Delta SkyMiles lounges were fine on my last trip.
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 7 ай бұрын
Totally fair, the visit limits will be an issue, but they’re solid
@fogrunr5075
@fogrunr5075 7 ай бұрын
@@MattClausen Everything's easy and inexpensive taking a nice flight schedule.
@chatanp
@chatanp 8 ай бұрын
As a RC Visa holder, it's definitely a bit of a kick in the nuts. Let's hope we get some other type of nicey...
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
I assume something’s coming
@alvarezju1
@alvarezju1 8 ай бұрын
Product changed from CSP to CSR instead of going with a competitor just because of this perk 🤦🏾‍♂️
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
Was it the competitor card the Altitude Reserve or the Venture X for Business?
@rene.s.s
@rene.s.s 8 ай бұрын
CSR is garbage and it's absolutely useless now. I hit PP restaurants every time I fly from SFO. Sometimes twice each with guest (P2) in my Ritz. Luckily, the Ritz is still worth it without this perk.
@jakemercure
@jakemercure 8 ай бұрын
I’m not too worried. Still a great card. Just a minor change imo
@MattClausen
@MattClausen 8 ай бұрын
I’m sure there’s more coming
@jakemercure
@jakemercure 8 ай бұрын
@@MattClausen It will be a good excuse to get the USBAR
@DC_Consulting_DC
@DC_Consulting_DC 8 ай бұрын
I hope others stop getting the Ritz-Carlton card 😊. I love the Sapphire Lounges...IAD, BOS, LGA for me so far. I use Be Relax and Minute Suites.
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