Your design is ingenious. Using those quick connections makes it super easy to make changes on the fly, I have never seen such an easy simple set up that works so well. Hats off to you my friends great job!
@fernandotomaz25544 жыл бұрын
The first time I'm watching this setup, congrats, this installation is one the cleanest I've seen so far. everything looks so good and easy.
@kapegede4 жыл бұрын
Wago connectors are the best. They are keeping my whole electricity together. Congrats to your 25 % upgrade!
@petrbenda50174 жыл бұрын
yes the are best, no stupid screws like chocolate block
@JumpMasterJef4 жыл бұрын
Started watching your videos 2 years ago with the Micro Hydro Water Wheel, you've come a long way mate. Never wanted a river to run through my garden so much.
@angryjoshi1654 жыл бұрын
KaShuto lol.... I'm moving soon because my old house is on its end and guess what's 100 meters away...
@David..4 жыл бұрын
I’m a cyclist and I guess that Watts portion of the title pulled this into my feed, since I train and race with a powermeter. Had no idea what the hell you were talking at the beginning but stayed until the end and fascinating.
@rikwhite63374 жыл бұрын
Im my experience of Peltons, the wheel should definitely be vertical, with the housing as large as possible to reduce losses from interaction of the exiting water with the casing. Also, the nozzle shape and alignment is fairly critical. If you want to use the nozzles that you are currently using, i would suggest possibly mounting them side by side on an adjustable bracket, aimed at the bottom of the wheel. That way you can align them so each of the streams hit the centre of each of the pair of the buckets through the main part of the drive stroke. By fine adjusting the alignment of the streams you can tailor your rpm / power. Cool project though :-)
@Quonzer4 жыл бұрын
We need to get this guy a quality-made steel turbine of the right size.
@oudotcom4 жыл бұрын
Well done ! Please keep us posted. Many thanks.
@kipdennis37964 жыл бұрын
This is so great friend, those results are awesome, Hoping for more updates
@alexscarbro7964 жыл бұрын
Well done! Your perseverance is paying off!
@peteconwaymusic65003 жыл бұрын
The key with those Pelton wheels is having the jet stream lined up perfectly to transfer maximum force/efficiency onto the cups. They are also designed to have the water speed almost match the wheel speed so that all the force of the water is transferred into rotational motion - the water should fall downwards from the wheel. So any kind of housing should be circular but with space around the wheel. Hope that helps. Cool design!
@philmicuchie77292 жыл бұрын
Actually for maximum efficiency the Velocity of the bucket should be half of velocity of jet due to Eulers terminal machinery equation
@bousce2170 Жыл бұрын
@@philmicuchie7729 I second this Phil!
@Enonymouse_ Жыл бұрын
So approximately toroidal in shape.
@byugrad10248 ай бұрын
If the velocity of the wheel was the same as the velocity of the stream, then no significant force would be imparted onto the wheel. Something is wrong with your understanding of physics.
@howardsimpson4895 ай бұрын
The water should be left with no energy, ie stationary. It should be free to just drop out of the way. The turbulence in your housing is evidence of huge losses. I used Fisher and Paykel smart drive alternators from NZ. These have a rotor that can be withdrawn from the stator so the load can be controlled for speed matching. They are good for 1000 watts at about 1200 rpm, output at approx 450V three phase. Switchmode power supplies can deliver low voltage for batteries much simpler than MPPT. We lived off grid on three of these for 15 years in NZ. They also work well at low rpm, say 200 charging 24V DC with just a bridge rectifier..
@willlinke28494 жыл бұрын
Interesting spoon design. Very clean setup as well. Nice project
@bpark100014 жыл бұрын
Your Pelton wheel is flooded! Nost of the "power" generated is churning water around in the chamber. Pelton wheels are designed to be totally free of water except for the jet impingement. The "chamber" should be "NOT". It should be totally open to the lower water reservoir. Ideally water will exit in streams in the opposite direction from the jets.
@bastiannenke71014 жыл бұрын
Couldn he just make a bigger and higher box? Maybe only higher to give the water more room to exit.
@TiredOfY4 жыл бұрын
The problem is that he has the hoses shooting water straight at the Pelton wheel which makes the water in turn shoot up and down out of the spoon blades...his hoses should shoot at the top side of the blade so the water shoots into the wall at a lower level than the wheel instead of up and falling back on it and creating unnecessary friction. Also in a design like this where the wheel is in the horizontal the bottom side doesn't need to be spoon-like..since it's going straight into a pit. Pelton is better suited for vertical designs to get the water shot away from the wheel..that's why both sides are spoon-like. He's losing power by having the bottom blade be spoony instead of a straight blade right into the pit
@DrTheRich4 жыл бұрын
@@TiredOfY I was thinking exactly the same while watching this and i don't even know anything about pelton wheels
@MmeHyraelle4 жыл бұрын
Yea it felt slowed down by the ambiant slushing of water. Need more optimisation indeed.
@tonychen764 жыл бұрын
I agree. As for how to optimize the turbine to prevent sloshing, consider redoing the turbine set-up so that it's vertical rather than horizontal, with the jet hitting the bottom of the turbine. The water then will immediately go down into the reservoir instead of sloshing around. EDIT: Nevermind, if you're moving to Turgo turbine then that's simpler.
@smashandburn14 жыл бұрын
The ease with which you can remove that thing is amazing!
@elementfishing4 жыл бұрын
He sure has it set up for maintenance in mind.
@dominicmeier57214 жыл бұрын
I think you should make the housing round, and possibly perforated so the water can exit the turbine radially with minimal interaction on the turbine wheel itself.
@ThriftStoreHacker4 жыл бұрын
I agree. The corners are causing lots of cavitation.
@Bahnamoon4 жыл бұрын
He should 3d print one!
@KatYouT18114 жыл бұрын
2 volute scrolls of 180⁰ length will help. But I'll guess a max gain of 10 to 20W of power.
@jokergs34 жыл бұрын
Yassss definitely an upgrade
@Kesiif4 жыл бұрын
Using a hexagon you could eject the water through the corners.
@ROVITTv4 жыл бұрын
Amazing Turbine
@KrisHarbour4 жыл бұрын
Nice to see it running with a good output. i think the gain you are seeing there isnt to do with the size, in fact the larger turbine would be less efficient. its because the smaller one has to few spoons and the jet skips the gap. with your high head and low flow a small amount of water is a lot of energy and the biger turbine has the correct spacing of spoons so that the jet does not miss momentarily. That is where i think that gain came from. i think you would get a bigger gain if the smaller turbine was sized to your nozzles with the correct number of spoons.
@JoeMalovich4 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 100k! It's nice to see you drop by once in a while. I'm excited to see how your wind turbine works out. The smaller one still wasn't the right diameter for my PMA. It was spinning so quickly that my open circuit volts were exceeding my charge controller maximum, I was seeing 209VDC and over 3200 RPM. I'm trying to design it so that if it ever runs unloaded that it won't self-destruct or fry something. Noise and vibrations were excessive as well. It's a physical impossibility to mount more spoons on the smaller one without cutting modifying the mounting ears on the spoons. This is why I went with a larger runner, Spencer is still flummoxed that I'm getting such high RPM from the big runner too! It's just difficult to grasp the pressure I'm working with. The larger diameter does help with the spoon engagement arc or whatever the technical term would be. With the larger runner I'm at 2020rpm and 128VDC open circuit and 1020RPM and 69VDC loaded which I feel are far less extreme numbers. As I recall from earlier conversations you operate yours at about 700rpm so mine is still 30% faster. I think the gain came from less friction losses due to a lower rpm and less windage due to a larger housing, and maybe better jet alignment with no blowby.
@KrisHarbour4 жыл бұрын
@@JoeMalovich Thanks, im actually closer to 150k now :) If it would be any help to you i can work out what your rpm would be at any head and turbine pcd. the one you are using must be around 350mm to get that rpm. my system runs at about 1000 rpm loaded, and around twice that unloaded. but that changes depending on flow losses. but around 100rpm. my turbine would do 4100rpm unloaded with your presure.
@JoeMalovich4 жыл бұрын
@@KrisHarbour Thanks for the offer about calculations, I'm pretty good with numbers though.
@Robuster824 жыл бұрын
@@KrisHarbour - would there be loss caused by the water bouncing off the turbine turbine housing and back into the turbine. The water appears almost to hit the spoons at right angles. I would have thought a circular turbine housing allowing for the spent water to exit without hitting the spoons - causing back pressure.
@KrisHarbour4 жыл бұрын
@@Robuster82 With a pelton turbine yes. as the water is flung off the turbine. with a turgo much less so as the water is directed downward and out the bottom. It is only a very small amount though even for pelton turbines. The best shape of housing for a pelton is curved and vertical for this reason. the shape of housing used for this turbine is much more suited to a turgo.
@donaldnaymon32704 жыл бұрын
Awesome build. Great design. Great power source. Thank you for sharing.
@ЕвгенийЛетуновский-ч9й4 жыл бұрын
The box must be round! Water eddies in the corners, counteract rotation!
@TeknoMastah4 жыл бұрын
there is no box in round, cause it called "BOX"
@ShadowHunter1203 жыл бұрын
This is so cool and makes me want to learn more.
@Tkm112093evadell4 жыл бұрын
I love stuff like this. When you turned the water back on for the first time I couldn’t help but notice all of the used water being ejected from the turbine was enveloping the turbine itself. It looks like the size of that box would be a serious loss in efficiency caused by excess water around it. Seems it would be a better idea to make that box as big as possible to allow the water to be ejected far from the turbine to drain down the sides, and not interfere with any moving parts.
@franssantos94172 жыл бұрын
Agree
@MasterIvo4 жыл бұрын
Over 500W nice! that's more like it. Very impressive. If that keeps running it will give you some nice warmth.
@MsLampalampa4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it work better if that box was round ? I feel like when that water hits the edge of that box it splashes and that would be unnecessary resistence for that wheel. Just a theory
@alexyum4 жыл бұрын
I think it would be helpful to change the shape of the turbine box from cubic to cylindrical with as little extra spacing as possible. By doing so, the water after hitting the turbine could be channeled in a centrifugal motion instead of crashing on the wall of the box. Great video.
@MrPizzaman094 жыл бұрын
I would recommend opening and closing the main valves from the penstock a bit slower to not have such large pressure spikes as seen on your gauge. I would hate to see you break the pipe somewhere from either a pressure spike or it rubbing against a rock as it grows/contracts under pressure.
@geoffkail73934 жыл бұрын
Those clamps are great and good planning ahead for maintenance.
@johnwinfield85864 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see that water wheel coupled to a one foot diameter stator, larger circumference equals faster speeds past coils
@kevIIar4 жыл бұрын
This
@JoshOntko3 жыл бұрын
Wago Nuts!!! I love them.
@mongoose03074 жыл бұрын
He went to reconnect the water supply and I yelled “did you turn off the water first?!”
@freeenergy4 жыл бұрын
Moooorrrrreeee torque nice work
@ThisRandomUsername4 жыл бұрын
This probably isn't a problem at ~40A, but it might be worth looking into: I can't remember if you've mentioned in your past videos about the wire guage from the water wheel (I haven't actually watched all of them if I'm honest), but now that you've got less rpms on the same alternator, you're going to be more dependant on the resistivity of the cables themselves (less rpm = less voltage, more current -> more voltage drop). If you're ever going to re-wire the cables in the ground, maybe consider putting in some sense wires to run parallel to your main current carrying wires just to compare the voltage drop across them at the charge controller.
@rymichael72034 жыл бұрын
Loves quick connects on something that rarely needs to be disconnected... smart thinking.
@hervevdb4 жыл бұрын
I would replace your square box for a round one to improve the water flow velocity and turbulences.
@aksalmusti4 жыл бұрын
Yeah he is right. Please send another vldeo to change rectangular box to circular turning chamber. You will get more energy
@kalbogwapo15362 жыл бұрын
spencer is smart, very smart.
@delf67754 жыл бұрын
Why dont you put the 2 batteries you have in series to work @ 24V if you think working at a higher voltage would help. It would halve the current from the charge controller to the batteries too, so less losses in the cables.
@GonzoDonzo3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention its half the amp draw when inverting to 110-120vac. Can be expensive to change some of your hardware though
@corgraveland48744 жыл бұрын
Another very good one Joe, what a progress with really nice output at the end, 0.5 kW. 👍💧
@JoeMalovich4 жыл бұрын
I'm not done yet, I should be able to get over 1000W Peak
@25hawkeye4 жыл бұрын
Me: *shuts running water valve quicky* My pipe system: YEEEEET
@ThePrimebeef4 жыл бұрын
you can see from the turbine blade inserts your man knows what he's doing. I doubt anyone will come up with a better design for blades in the near future.
@jmedlock954 жыл бұрын
your getting a lot of turbulence from the box being square, i feel a circular housing would increase your efficiency by 20%?
@akunog27084 жыл бұрын
@Logic Hurts Idiots at least he didn't make the last your into you're, he's got half of it right
@bmoesucka86194 жыл бұрын
Heads Mess what abt the back splash of waisted jet energy i would think a round Design would create less drag on opposite of spoons.
@jmedlock954 жыл бұрын
@Logic Hurts Idiots those who attack a persons argument solely on grammar or syntax, in truth, have no argument. What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. haha
@NeoIsrafil4 жыл бұрын
@Heads Mess honestly yah... I'd smooth the corners of the box too, and angle them down the drain so that splash back isnt happening. A couple 3d printed radius could do it.
@simonmasters32952 ай бұрын
You need to look at bearings and nozzles, not the shape of the box
@RedHotFiat4 жыл бұрын
I wish I had something intelligent to say. You are making great progress. A long way from the water wheel on the old property.
@ninerout3994 жыл бұрын
First time seeing this video. This is pretty cool, though intrigued, I'm confused as to where the water is coming from and what you are using the power for.
@aus713834 жыл бұрын
Water comes from a little creek uphill, and is used for good.
@mathieuriendeau83984 жыл бұрын
@@aus71383 pressure is created by gravity?? Sorry for my ignorance...
@MrAdeptusOne4 жыл бұрын
@@mathieuriendeau8398 yes.
@hughbrown15314 жыл бұрын
@@mathieuriendeau8398 pressure is a function of height and density of the water. Gravity is basically squeezing the mass of water.
@Qodesheem4 жыл бұрын
@@hughbrown1531 Gravity is just a theory. Because of density of the water the pressure is made.
@N0body2474 жыл бұрын
Hi joe. I like your setup. in your video summary you touched on the amps being a bottle neck due to 7 amps going thru the wire, 16g can handle roughly 10 amps however distance as you know is the factor you are actually facing.. if distance is an issue your better doing HIGHER volts across the line to keep the amps low and then convert at the box. personally, thats how i would do it. i love the set up you have going.
@gregwarner37534 жыл бұрын
Pelton wheels operate most efficiently when the speed of the spoons is one half the speed of the water jet. This is fairly easy to calculate. This exercise is left for the student.
@josephpadula22834 жыл бұрын
The turbine should be A Kaplan or the simpler Propellor style. Francis third best. But Pelton impulse? That is for very high head !
@fishhuntadventure4 жыл бұрын
But you’re still not a physicist
@josephpadula22834 жыл бұрын
No just an engineer at a dam. I am also not a lawyer But I know murder is no legal .
@gregwarner37534 жыл бұрын
Each turbine type has an efficient operating range of pressure and flow. Look at any basic Water Power text book for an explaination.
@tofo23 жыл бұрын
The charger is MPPT (Maximum Power Point Tracking). It will adjust the voltage for maximum output power, and that will be near a wheel peripheral speed of half the water speed. It may find an optimum a bit off due to cup shape is not at optimum exactly perpendicular and also optimize a bit to increase RPM due to wire losses and if the box distorts water somehow. MPPT regulators solve a lot of problems for homebrew projects. There are even step-up/boost MPPT regulators operating from as low as 5V input. The best is to select the diameter of the pelton wheel to obtain the maximum RPM the alternator is designed for. The power loss in all wires and windings is proportional to I^2 so delivering power at as high voltage as possible is great. Also the water speed can be checked reading the open circuit (no load) voltage of the alternator. Regulator will have to handle that RPM anyway when battery is fully charged if no dump load, water diverter or nozzle valve feedback is used.. It may be the cups are inefficient if wheel is too small and each cup operate over a large angle
@moabird69833 жыл бұрын
absolutely AWESOME , thank you for sharing your setup :)
@ThingsWhichArentWork4 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe - I was wondering if a close-fitting circular shroud (i..e a bent bit of sheet metal) within housing plywood for the turbine might improve the efficiency even further (you'd have to have gaps to let the jet spray in of course). There's quite a lot of empty space within the housing so those Pelton buckets will be wasting a little energy circulating it around. If you could reduce the amount of air that the buckets are moving around then you might gain a couple of extra watts. (Much the same as how the pitch of a vacuum cleaner goes up when you block the hose.. less air is moving, so less work is done so the motor and it will spin up to a higher RPM). Cheers!!
@RANDOMNATION9072 жыл бұрын
5 Gallon bucket ought to do just fine.
@madmarkstoys3 жыл бұрын
SWEET JOB GOOD CLEAN FUN!
@Myselfsama4 жыл бұрын
Whats producing all of that water pressure? Love this idea.
@G-ra-ha-m4 жыл бұрын
0:09 An interesting way of packing, rest the metal wheel on the delicate plastic blades and then pack in foam on top!! 14:06 get rid of the chamber as it's a water brake and build a jig so you can tune the angle of the jets while running.
@anarchocommunist38884 жыл бұрын
i thought so too lol
@dieziege67804 жыл бұрын
The first few words sounded exactly like Gray Still Play's Intro :D
@PatrickBaptist7 ай бұрын
That's awesome. I'm gonna say I wouldn't use those "quick" connects they seem to not be so quick..... But hey if that's what you like then go for it, respect.
@mike_jay4 жыл бұрын
That stream must be 100m above this setup to get that kinda pressure
@cymaho11 ай бұрын
Hi, thanks you for show us your work, can you update the links to see the products you used,... and can you put in the list the water staff ! Hug !
@geicomatt4 жыл бұрын
As much as I would of love to see you forget to turn the water off. It was a good thing you did lol
@hellopsp1804 жыл бұрын
This is just suuuuper cool maaaan
@ThisTall4 жыл бұрын
My dude........ by the look of that shop you’d be served well to invest in some shelving lol Great demo btw!
@manden224 жыл бұрын
looks very safe, with the wires and all.
@bentheguru49864 жыл бұрын
I cringe when I keep seeing ball-valves used.... Change to a gate valve on outside of box, use second inside to stop water after the T-piece and guage. You can then allow bypass water while working on it to avoid freeze. 3-pin Anderson connector of even Banana Plugs make for fast electrical. The box while being temporary looks like plenty of waste water is falling back on to the wheel and will be making parasitic drag. Possible option in your box, put ledge side around the entire inside wall, use a full-size peice of polycarbonate to mount the turbine and alternator. Jets will need their own bolted mounts but least the spent water will be thrown well away from the wheel. Upgrade your cabling, you have gone a lot lower on volatge thus current has risen, over a long run, losses will increase.
@howardsimpson4895 ай бұрын
Properly sized ball valves have the least hydraulic loss thru them This matters at high water velocity. Substituting gate valves will make a real reduction in a system that is efficient.
@SteveFlatEarth3 жыл бұрын
What is the name of the pipe connection hardware? Very convenient for assembly dissassembly.
@ksiegarniaJACKpl4 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe! Can you give the name of these hydraulic connectors? A very nice system that facilitates quick and easy connection ...
@MaxUgly4 жыл бұрын
I think they are called sanitary fittings
@JoeMalovich4 жыл бұрын
or tri-clamp fittings
@ksiegarniaJACKpl4 жыл бұрын
@@JoeMalovich Thank You!
@youknowvin3 жыл бұрын
Why was the black bypass hose put to use? Seems the two hoses already there could have just been put down in the center hole. Also those stainless steel connectors and clamps looks like high dollar lab grade parts. Aren't they expensive. Looks like a lot of water sloshing around in the new box that would interfere with the turbine.
@johannkasselman44344 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe, enjoy watching you figure it out and fine tuning your system. Thank you for these videos, its very insightful. I am looking at something similar on our property. Is there a way to get in touch with you to run something past you? Nothing at the moment setup except good water flow high up from a mountain. Thank you.
@JoeMalovich4 жыл бұрын
malovich@gmail.com to discuss
@simontraisnel80614 жыл бұрын
Good job bro
@karelbadjakker12964 жыл бұрын
What about a used EV battery? You could probably get power your house with peaks mostly of that battery even if it's only 5kwh
@stewartpalmer24564 жыл бұрын
I would add some floats to controlled shut-off valves in your barrel to control the large and small jet feeds at your turbine end. A way to automate the flow control for the supply. Kind of like the floats used in toilets. ;)
@Jped2774 жыл бұрын
Where does the water come from?
@gertjanvandermeij42653 жыл бұрын
Clouds
@poepflater3 жыл бұрын
i noticed once while cleaning paint roller brushes with the hosepipe. that if you make a fan of the water with your thumb, it could spin the roller up to a healthy speed... I bet it has some kind of application
@ac4uv4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video, I wish I had a hydro resource at my home. This said, Is the generator optimized for your torque created at the shaft? Speed of rotation? Yes parasitic drag comments are part of the story but you said this is more of a proof of concept rig. Love those food grade pipe fittings. 12 KWH per day Outstanding !
@benbrice93434 жыл бұрын
Mark my words this guy is going to keep building bigger and bigger intill he surpasses the hoover damn in size and electrical output. He may just keep going after that or he may finally be satisfied. Lol Love the channel and this is the kind of stuff I wish would of been more readily available to me when I was a kid. Im 33 just to give you an idea of where my comment comes from. Thank you for all of your hard work. I have no doubt that you are inspiring an untold number of kids.
@j.crandom20774 жыл бұрын
im new to the channel how you get the water pressure so high !!??
@PP.EKOTECH4 жыл бұрын
GOOD JOB !!! BRAVO !!! Regards - Paul P.
@keithlester91524 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe, have you considered the increased drag from the back splash on the wheel? I wonder if you could deflect the water away from the wheel some way?
@JoeMalovich4 жыл бұрын
I think the real solution here is to go with a turgo design which handles water far better.
@SSingh-nr8qz4 жыл бұрын
@@JoeMalovich Ooooo Nice. Love to see that video series.
@MaxUgly4 жыл бұрын
Yea, what makes this channel so great is watching Joe learn and evolve his system!
@seebaastian4 жыл бұрын
I just asked the same question before reading your post. nice one ;)
@bradfader6914 жыл бұрын
Such a good build then i realize its plywood lol. Why not a more resilient material or even a rubberized coating? I see its painted obviously but is that sufficient for long time use?
@JoeMalovich4 жыл бұрын
it's a prototype, the final version will be TIG welded Stainless Steel
@bradfader6914 жыл бұрын
Very nice! I watched further on and realized it was just a prototype but awesome job. Was gonna say itd be nice to have a metal printer to make the paddles so they dont break or wear down
@fmaclen4 жыл бұрын
I really have no idea what I'm talking about but it looks like there is a lot of water turbulence inside the box, wouldn't it be a bit more efficient if the inside of the turbine box had rounded corners or was a straight up circular shape?
@DanielCallejasSevilla4 жыл бұрын
Water reaching the sides of the box has already produced work by hitting the turbine first, so aside from splash from wall to wheel, the shape of the box should not be a big issue.
@wilppuse4 жыл бұрын
@@DanielCallejasSevilla What if, the box was the same shape as the stellarator coils... Id like to test that but alas, no stream on my backyard
@keithlester91524 жыл бұрын
I saw the same thing. I know in a racing motor they make the oil pan to keep splash off the crank. I think the same principal should apply here.
@UCCLdIk6R5ECGtaGm7oqO-TQ4 жыл бұрын
Likely, but probably not so easy to prototype in comparison to a simple box.
@barryfirth11874 жыл бұрын
He could 3D print one after the bugs are worked out...he has a printer. Just has to consider the shape to deflect the water properly and if the plastic will handle the stress. 🤔 Bigger, round with baffles.
@philstat1004 жыл бұрын
Thank You.
@JPK904 жыл бұрын
Water evacuation from turbine housing could be improved. Once it has impacted the turbine wheel it should not come into contact with it anymore.
@chadoftoons4 жыл бұрын
I have no idea what i just witnessed. I wonder what your water source is...well im just gonna slowly figure it out.
@cautiousoptimist4 жыл бұрын
Looks likes it's fighting turbulence from being in a square housing...
@DeliciousDeBlair4 жыл бұрын
That might be true, the best way to remedy that would be to have a shaped shroud that 'excavates' the off-spray ensuring that it does not splash back against the wheel. Then one would know. I think that one could maybe put a pair of stationary rings of blades [something generally/vaguely like this, only with collector rings to ensure that said splash has no way to fall back and land back onto the spinning peltier impeller system, and you would do best with one for the top if you can only get one direction, but if both directions could be had, put one above and below... www.amazon.com/Flex-lite-32112K-Electric-Replacement/dp/B003EOCG88 also it is possible to make something like this from heating, bending and gluing PVC pipe really cheaply, if you have the time and energy to invest in it ] to ensure the water is indeed directed away from the middle on a continuous and consistent basis.
@comedousedinmud442 жыл бұрын
Really interesting video, thank you! Recently found out an ancestor of mine invented these!
@geoh73494 жыл бұрын
you have too much water staying up inside the box after hitting the wheel.
@SgtPickledic4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, should be circular shape not a box, doing so would assist in making the water go down, like a funnel/corkscrew. Putting Corkscrew type fins in the bottom of the shoot would force the water out faster as well.. I bet it would spin much faster. Kinda like a Turbo.
@dr1verman4 жыл бұрын
Love your setup, very ingenious, I think I would be inclined to have the alternator on top of the turbine though, rather than underneath.
@inncogneato63414 жыл бұрын
dr1verman I’m not sure what you’re getting at. From what I could see, the alternator is on top of the turbine. You might want to watch the video again.
@anthonylosego4 жыл бұрын
Call me crazy, but wouldn't a round "box" decrease the resistance to flow?
@ibekwechidithompson48534 жыл бұрын
Please, can you teach me step by step, how you mount up the turbine and what is required Thanks in anticipation
@SSingh-nr8qz4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else when this guy starts breathing hard, you feel like you have worked hard without doing a thing?
@JoeMalovich4 жыл бұрын
The gopro has Automatic Gain Compensation so when I'm quiet it turns up the microphone. I don't actually breathe that hard. I am overweight however.
@MasterIvo4 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing those liquid sugar cans.
@DjSharperimage3 жыл бұрын
Pretty awesome build. If I ever buy some land, I will probably build something like this.
@pabloschonffeldt4 жыл бұрын
This is amazing, I loved the turbine design, you can have spread "blades" and service the turbine once a week. Are those "blades" made out of plastic? Could be milled on aluminum maybe? I really liked your video, keep updating :D
@JoeMalovich4 жыл бұрын
these plastic spoons last forever.
@cp80424 жыл бұрын
Yes they are made out of plastic
@kristianjorgensen28264 жыл бұрын
stainless stell is good
@wpegley3 жыл бұрын
Your turbine is now my ringtone
@JoeMalovich3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@daz12345daz4 жыл бұрын
Andy Dwyer has really come on since his shoe shine days.
@davemact3012 жыл бұрын
Hello Joe. Cool setup. The round casing is the way to go. Like a donut, the half-toroid is a perfect diffuser for the spent water and the noise! Stainless perf metal will let water pass through and stall that water long enough to use it's film strength to absorb a lot of the sound. Please check for proper clearances at speed!
@ivanadiego60674 жыл бұрын
Maybe you can improve the eficiency by changing the shape of the housing to a round one instead of the square shape. You can see the turbulence and low preasure zones in the corners of the box. Nice man cave you have there!
@aksalmusti4 жыл бұрын
I offer same solutions. I can easily see water hits rectangular box's walls. That reduces your energy.
@pjplumber21464 жыл бұрын
Just wondering if you played with the angle of spray. The only vague experience I have is a paint roller pushed with a garden hose. But lol. When I do this. The paint roller seems to spin faster when I change the angle from a solid direct hit to a glancing blow. Just a thought from getting lost in the spin. Total shot in dark. You may have mentioned it already. I didn’t remember seeing the angles change in first video. But dude this is awesome. Mad respect.
@deathcake90004 жыл бұрын
What is the RPM of the new wheel?
@pooorman-diy11044 жыл бұрын
500 watts is not big ..
@chefboyrdee14 жыл бұрын
@JoeMalovich4 жыл бұрын
Sanitary fittings
@chefboyrdee14 жыл бұрын
@@JoeMalovich cool thanks bRaH
@jackjack45044 жыл бұрын
Hey, where doit you get the pressure of water from?
@davecolwell7254 жыл бұрын
jack jack I would also like to know is that just the home water system? If I think of it it’s not a silly idea to make something like this in line for water although i would imagine that would rob the water pressure.
@jackjack45044 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure of this... IT will probably rob too much pressure and make wait too much, and you will get 500 Watts every year... Or month if you like stay in the shower. Maybe for a swimming pool and not the one you have on a garden... He must have a river near his turbine
@laurentoutan99222 жыл бұрын
Vous êtes fort dans le domaine Monsieur ! Je me suis abonné à votre chaîne
@DeliciousDeBlair4 жыл бұрын
Definitely need batteries matched to the system's safe operating parameters.
@joycethomas88684 жыл бұрын
Nice work and video. The velocity of water exiting nozzles remain the same. Using a larger diameter wheel should turn slower based on same water jet velocity. Very nice setup.
@bene54314 жыл бұрын
2:33 ELECTROBOOM Material
@Ohmloud4 жыл бұрын
Hahah
@turmfalcke4 жыл бұрын
at Hobbyking you can get a connector that is designed for BLDC motors its called MT60
@Digital-Dan4 жыл бұрын
Still looks as if there may be undesirable effects from the water that bounces around after it contacts the spoons and before it exits the scene. Keith said it better, earlier. Great fun, though. People should not live where water freezes.
@JoeMalovich4 жыл бұрын
Yes there likely is. A Turgo handles water better, that's why I'm going with a Turgo in the next version.