Chasing It: The Most Evil Version of Tony Soprano - Soprano Theories

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[@WTFudgeMaster]

This episode really showed how miserable and cold Tony became after realising he never had the makings of a varsity athlete.

[@walterwhite2900]

Small hands. That was his problem

[@mrs.t2932]

It was some greaseball shit. Amongst the Italians.

[@Lionheart5977]

So lame..

[@robertbryant3252]

@@Lionheart5977 Are you trying to piss me off? Because I’m about to put you through that fuckin’ wall.

[@jonnythedemon]

OH SON OF A BITCH! DID I NOT TELL YOU NOT TO SHAY THAT ANYMORE?!?!

[@hankhill5622]

This episode had tons of symbolism. it’s never directly said but if you read the symbolism properly you will see it’s heavily implied that Phil did 20 years in the can.

[@ruehcufdudhrus2205]

After rewatching the series years later, I actually never caught that. That's probably one of the most important and the most overlooked details in the entire series.

[@hankhill5622]

@@ruehcufdudhrus2205 I agree, genius writing, David Chase truly is a Genius

[@seangallagher1947]

Right, but did you know that he went to prison? Also, he wanted a woman, but he compromised. He fucked anotha man in the ass instead.

[@williamflowers9435]

Wait… Phil spent time in prison?😵😵😵 I thought he ran an honest food truck business, specializing in grilled cheese, known for being generous with extra napkins. And was an animal rights activist.

[@atarikid6719]

Without A Peep…

[@WilliamBrinkley45]

Chris killing his AA sponsor was the single most evil murder on the show simply because it was completely meaningless, unprovoked and he didn’t even feel bad about it.

[@gigacaracal9139]

Also Christopher and Paulie killing the waiter who wanted a bigger tip

[@K-Dot94]

@@gigacaracal9139 yeah but at least that was like a 40% accident, chris fully just shot the guy

[@thedangerwich5476]

I’d argue that tony ordering Bobby to kill the French Canadian was the most evil murder in the show. Guy had nothing to do with the life, only wanted to keep custody of his daughter and he was killed purely to give the sister of those Canadian guys custody of the daughter and tony partially orders it to get revenge on Bobby for whooping his ass

[@dantheman4838]

Paulie murdering an old lady to steal her life savings was definitely the most despicable murder for me.

[@FREETHEWORLD999]

@@gigacaracal9139Chrissy he’s fucked up *Paulie Voice*

[@jezebulls]

That was probably the longest MANSCAPED ad read I’ve ever seen.

[@stevenhoang2671]

i agree

[@karlvonboldt]

It is 2 minutes and 15 seconds long! I thought I was the only one!

[@ReadMyDiscription.223]

A lot of money in those ads you know

[@lorneiggulden7123]

EXACTLY the reason I'll NEVER buy one. Take 2.5 minutes of my life. Never buy their products. It's a trade.

[@Grandmaster-Kush]

It was better when there were no in-video ads

[@TotalTech2.]

Breaking Bad is a story which ask 'how evil will this man become.' Sopranos is a story which ask 'how evil will this man reveal himself to be.'

[@Whaterman1]

Walt becomes fully evil in season 5 tho

[@TotalTech2.]

@@BizznessBox I couldn't have said it better myself. In fact do you mind if I steal that comment?

[@whitebread940]

Walt seemed like he always had regret over some of his decisions, I never got that from Tony.

[@TotalTech2.]

@@whitebread940 The only point I will give in Tony's favor is this. Tony was born into a mafia family with a bad father and a *monster* for a mother so Tony has issues and was groomed into becoming what he was. Walter on the other hand doesn't have any issues. He's just a selfish prick.

[@Pacemaker_fgc]

I think you have it backwards. Walt was evil from the start, a man totally consumed by ego above all else who simply lacked the initiative to act on his dark impulses. Tony, I feel like he tried to become a better person but any step towards self improvement was a step towards being murdered by his own men. Eventually he just stopped resisting and let the evil of his lifestyle consume him.

[@mykiemilford720]

The Sopranos is about a man who learns to become the monster he truly is. I believe the panic attacks stemmed from his inner conflicts - between the ‘good guy’ he wanted to believe he fundamentally was and the evil sociopathic monster he always was at his core. When he screams I GET IT a few episodes later, it’s Tony coming to accept his true nature and leaving his ego conflicts on the matter behind.

[@seanmwh]

Also he went out to Vegas and banged Chrissies Girlfriend after helping him die and got the money he was owed and probably kept it.

[@damiannichols1250]

I don't know man ego death usually makes you a less confident person for a while

[@blenderbanana]

@@damiannichols1250 My experience was opposite. A lot of my insecurity and fear went straight to the trash; and the resolve it(Ego-Death) granted me; was there-to unknown.

[@damiannichols1250]

@@blenderbanana ✌☮

[@blenderbanana]

@@damiannichols1250 kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWWXaKFvhNKWaZY

[@OrthodoxHC]

Tony Soprano's growth throughout the years was a descent into madness.

[@flightofthebumblebee9529]

What Tony and his gang did to Sal Vitro alone would have warranted splattering his brains all over the table at Hosten's. There was a grocery list of people who probably wanted him dead.

[@SirBearization]

He slowly becomes his mother

[@rozzer8290]

Lot of anger

[@rsmith7994]

@G. T. At least he had an arc. “Where’s my arc, Paulie?”

[@blaisem90s]

Couldn't disagree more. Think Tony becomes alot more astute and definitely more reflective. You know his feelings, everyday is a gift...It's just, does it have to be a pair of socks?

[@pepironi992]

If Tony wanted to pursue that lifestyle, he should have done so quietly

[@alphamentality5802]

He was, wasn’t he?

[@drmartin5062]

I can’t believe critics called this a throw away episode. I like it and it was a great look at Tony’s miserable existence

[@lopezfan24]

It would have been a fine episode a season or two earlier. It shouldn’t be one that appears towards the end of the series. The end of the series was building up to the war with New York, so the final episodes should have focused on that.

[@BlaMurda]

Yeah agreed, I always thought the editing in this episode in particular was great, really showed stress in a visual way

[@ststst981]

Yea that scene is so sad and pathetic when he's making his men cheer on a small time horse race on a tiny tv in the casino

[@mysubscriptions5619]

Me neither. This is one of the episodes I remember the most, wtf?

[@bzd1983]

The only episode I remember as being a throwaway was that peyote episode

[@justinhocutt2331]

For someone who whined and complained about his mother and how horrible she was he sure became her in the end

[@dtraversodt]

Yup Tony became more and more like Livia as series wore on. Also notice that AJ was basically like Livia in male form in earlier seasons until he started seeing psychiatrist. Afterwards, he became more outgoing and opportunistic(using Lil Carmine connection Tony provided) just like Tony and Johnny Boy.

[@3headedsnake388]

Yep, you can see him resemble her more and more with the manipulation, pettiness, put downs, etc. as he nears the end of his life. IIRC he literally says “Oh poor you” to Carmela in Whitecaps.

[@66kaisersoza]

Livia was meant to be key to the show throughout, but of course the actress died early on. I also believe Tony was slowly becoming his mother throughout the show

[@andrimarbi]

The whole series is about the outcome of her shitty parenthood

[@BubblegumCrash332]

One of the only show besides Mad Men that has the balls to make the main character so unlikable around the end of its run.

[@danielgadzinski3643]

When did Don Draper become unlikeable?

@@danielgadzinski3643 not unlikable like Tony, but Dom is also a bad guy. When we thought he would change he goes there and does the same sh*t he did before. In both shows they have like a “small” evolution. Don got a little lighter and created that “peace and love” Coke commercial, but that doesn’t mean he stopped cheating and being a bad father. Tony understands that he has no choice and embrace his evilness. Well, at least that’s how I read both shows finales.

[@benjaminb6678]

Breaking Bad

[@urayoangarriga]

I hated Walter white by the end

[@daedraxis]

well one of the writers of Sopranos was the creator of Mad Man, so you could see where the resemblances come from.

[@ChiseledAdonis]

I remember watching this episode shocked at how cold-hearted Tony was being unprovoked. Granted he is an evil human being but throughout the series he seemed to operate on code... (with exceptions of course) but in this episode he was incredibly evil for no damn reason. The moment I saw him go down that path is when I knew he was going to die in the end.

[@scotthall7307]

I remember thinking: Is this Tony finally ending the nice guy facade but then he does peyote and I'm right back to loving the big old bouws

[@mikimiyazaki]

@@scotthall7307 but the "nice guy act" was him struggling with his conscience (which indicates he had a conscience obviously). I think he used therapy to justify his evil ways rather than compartmentalize it. He truly embraced the worst parts of himself.

[@poisonoak2719]

the scene where Vito Jr is dragged out of the house was just scarring

[@Wolf_3125]

I'm convinced that Tony died in the final episode. The cut to black is too coincidental.

[@mikimiyazaki]

@@Wolf_3125 there was a smorgasbord of bread crumbs and foreshadowing to that effect. There was an amazing video analyzing the evidence and pointing everything out. Theres a super convincing theory that tony, aj and carmela were all killed. Its been like 8 years since i watched it but he pointed out several references of a biblical nature. How the onion rings and how all three each took one and ate it in one bite referenced a very old ritual taking place before death with that song by journey also being a reference to that final journey into the Afterlife. I cant explain it in a sensible way but if you watch the video its ridiculously hard to reject each interpretation due to being basically identical with what people would do in the distant past.

[@DJFATCalvin]

Man, how sad it is we lost Norm Macdonald before he could do a commercial for Manscaped.

[@LynchyVidz]

So true.

[@mrniceguy7167]

Manscaped ! Pubic hair has never tasted so good !

[@definitelynotanAIchatbot]

​@@mrniceguy7167 all-you-can-eat crab dinner! 🦀 🍽

[@ChrisSuswal-de9tj]

Why are you laughing, Brian Egan? You think the blades are flimsy? You're making a mockery of manscapped

[@pennystocklocks]

No more dry meat!!!

[@RestrainingHollywood]

This episode is underrated. Lots of memorable moments. The fight with Carmella over the spec house was brutal. There was no turning back with Tony at this point of the series.

[@kevinfinnerty8414]

Very underrated. Some of the Best one liners in the entire series were in this episode. Plus a Nancy Sinatra appearance.

[@tttgaming8762]

Loved this episode about to get HBO Max again to watch again for the 7th time…..

[@tedwojtasik8781]

Tony was obviously a dyed in the wool republican. Notice how concerned he is with the unborn fetus safety, afraid Carm's spec home will collapse and snuff out the zygote's life. However, once jr. is born he would kill the little tyke over a $5 bill, try to get him / her addicted to drugs, gambling, or some other vice. So the lesson here is fetus & babies are cool, once they can be exploited its game on. See, a republican to the bone ;-)

[@RestrainingHollywood]

@@tedwojtasik8781 pretty sure Tony said that to get under Carmella's skin. And its obvious the Italian catholic guys are all Republicans. I'm def not a republican but anything is better than being a Democrat these days..😆

[@savidge08]

Teds an election stealing, fake virus worshiping enemy of America I see, or just kidding I hope the latter

[@victorsforza5578]

Phil leotardo spent 20 yrs in the can, he wanted to go to Vegas, meet a hoowah and play roulette, he compromised, he played marbles & ate grilled cheese off the radiator with some Rasta guys.. hehehe

[@Kavilion]

Hoowah 😂 that’s so good

[@victorsforza5578]

@@Kavilion did Phil tell ya his bruddah Billy was just a fvckin kid.. hehehe

[@Kavilion]

@@victorsforza5578 😆!

[@cygnustsp]

Tony got a lot calmer, even lazy, as he got older. He never expressed any joy over his successful scams. He began just going through the motions. Behind it all was his mother's and even his son's thinking: it's all a big nothing.

[@galleryofrogues]

Depicts his depression very well

[@tkgawa]

Do you think he interprets his apathy in such a way that he is further without responsibility?

[@antoinesilva1527]

Ran in the family.

[@dtraversodt]

@antoinesilva1527 it's very scary how Meadow was like Johnny Boy being opportunistic yet enterprising and AJ was Livia prone to depressive episodes and extreme mood swings

[@dimulaidari]

And More Evil Than Before...

[@osman732]

This episode also highlights the empty hypocrisy of the "providing for our families" rationale, the lie they tell themselves to justify all the violence and theft. Tony is spraying life-changing sums of money up the wall for no benefit, while actively hiding money from his loved ones. Any number of those bets could've seriously helped Carmela's anxiety about being provided for if/when Tony's gone; or helped Vito's family in crisis, or any other family they claimed to care about.

[@tkgawa]

The thinness of their excuses for the life, and seeing them fall through, are the best part of the show. Ralph even survives the ire of two bosses, for serious or personal infractions, because he makes the loot. He thinks it will get him all the way until Tony gets him alone, after Pie-O-My, and liquidates him. But Tony's personal reasons aren't even respected, so he must hide Ralph's murder. Tony, like any gangster, is primarily concerned about himself and, since he is the skipper, there are few limiters to his greed. If he can wield such power in the mafia, to be able to beat or kill multiple people because it makes him feel powerful, he will believe he deserves power at home or at large. So, he keeps the peace until he chooses to break it as king. It sickens me that he and Phil are the best candidates for community leadership. They have neither the interest, empathy, or soft skills to do more than flush Vito Jr. away.

[@5castles893]

He doesn't want her to have it out of spite

[@allaboutthemurzic]

Like in Breaking bad walt used the “for the family” justification for all the shit he would do

[@lolllwwwwaae1690]

@@allaboutthemurzic Walt wasnt as bad and he did it for family first 2 seasons

[@mohamedhichemmouzali6505]

@@5castles893 deep down he knew if carmela had the money she would leave him high and dry and take the kids

[@MikeySnatch610]

Tony’s subconsciously rebelling against his father with the gambling. His horrible behavior in season 6B is him “decompensating” as Melfi predicts, shedding all his defense mechanisms and lashing out. It only stops after he kills Christopher, since he subconsciously believes he stopped the cycle of abuse with Christopher’s daughter.

[@colechapman6976]

I find it ironic that Tony's downfall in this episode is from gambling, when before he admonished Davey for being a degenerate gambler

[@playbackproductions1]

Did his dad say to NEVER gamble too after he cut the butchers finger off? I can't remember

[@rubertidom]

@@colechapman6976 I think that's pretty much the point @MikeySnatch610 was making, and it's awesome because I never thought of it that way. You can watch this show 100 times and find 100 different things.

[@Gameprojordan]

@@colechapman6976 well Tony didn't gamble so much that he lost literally everything such as his business, family, house etc etc like Davie did. Yeah he put himself into a lot of debt but he managed to pay it off. In his mind that doesn't make him a degenerate because he was able to control it, and not spiral out of control into ruin from it

[@rubertidom]

@@Gameprojordan uh... the way he was going he definitely could have lost everything and was quite close. Consider the fact that he went from having hundreds of thousands of dollars stashed in his bird feeder to having to borrow from Hesh. Then he came back in the peyote episode and now we'll never know if he stopped while he was ahead.

[@rockfrangrances1]

Who could think this is a thrown-in? This is one of the best episodes ever. Shows Tony’s financial life is in much worse shape than it seemed previously

[@xboxmoonpartingty104]

Yeah that was surprising the episode’s incredible

[@dougg2012]

All the episodes are awesome, so because of that, there has to be one that just doesn’t measure up.

[@mikimiyazaki]

I disagree. The therapy caused him to fully embrace his dark side so it definitely did something.

[@eagleman1542]

I wonder if he ensured that Hesh's girlfriend got a hot dose (which killed her).

[@mikimiyazaki]

@@eagleman1542 ? She was a diabetic. Not a drug addict.

[@eagleman1542]

@@mikimiyazaki Are you 100% sure about that, sis? I was under the impression that she was a heroin addict but only saw the episode once several years ago. Mea culpa, thanks for your insight!

[@mikimiyazaki]

@@eagleman1542 i dont know why i thought she was a diabetic. She had terrible migraines, and died of a stroke but no she wasnt an addict.

[@eagleman1542]

@@mikimiyazaki I see, as I mentioned earlier I'll need to re-watch that episode; never heard of migraines being fatal (unless it was an aneurysm), though.

[@n.dhingra7765]

Very cool. There's also Carlo's reference to the Twilight Zone episode "A Nice Place to Visit," which Tony interrupts. That episode is about a criminal, Rocky Valentine, who believes he's miraculously survived being shot and can now do whatever he wants. Tony tells Carmela that he survived a "fucking gunshot wound," so "big picture-wise," he's up. In reality, Rocky is in hell. This suggests Tony is unknowingly headed to hell. There are hell references in the next episode, "Walk Like a Man," too, including a clip ofThe Hellfighters.

[@toddpick8007]

No the episode is about Rocky Valentine getting shot and dying thinking he went to heaven. Hes in the next world where he gets everything he wants, booze, smokes, women he cant lose at gambling etc he finds out that without risk and loss that winning has no thrill only to be told hes not in heaven hes in hell.

[@n.dhingra7765]

@@toddpick8007 Thanks. We're both right. At first, Rocky thinks he's survived. Then, yes, he believes he's gone to heaven. (I mentioned the first part because that's a better parallel to Tony Soprano.)

[@adonismeetschrist9248]

And the last scene is him in hell of a loop watching his own death scene in an “old Irish bar” like Chrissy had said when he was in a coma

[@chickencharlie1992]

@@toddpick8007 sounds like heaven to me.

[@toddpick8007]

@@chickencharlie1992 This is the other place.

[@Hi-Five-Ghost]

This is one Tony’s weaknesses, he takes his frustration out on everyone else, bc he doesn’t know how to deal with it, yet he’s too narcissistic to admit it’s him and no one else. He’s the epitome of being a Toxic sociopath.

[@ashton501]

Love how 20% of this vid is an ad, after being forced to watch two unskipable ads

[@DrJ-hx7wv]

In Season 1, Tony saved Hesh $250000 from Junior's tax. Has Hesh forgotten?

[@antonchigurh7227]

That's not how it works

[@mrd3016]

Of course. He's desert people.

[@pennystocklocks]

​@@mrd3016don't forget how he robbed those poor inner city youth

[@EdSmed20]

tony soprano was truly an unredeemable character. genius writing and genius actor, rip james

[@ericlehman53]

I think that is part of his evolution as a character, to see how far he could go before the audience lost sympathy for him.

[@sobreoqueeugosto4700]

I really think he was worse on "Kennedy and Heidi"

[@Spooky_515]

Yeah killing someone you loved like a son, like your favorite son is most definitely dark.

[@sincerelymike]

@@Spooky_515 and immediately boinking a girl he was seeing afterwards

[@GabrielTorres-fl2xo]

@@sincerelymike And not feeling regretful at all, Tony scared the shit out of me in that episode. He was always a monster but this made him completely unsympathetic

[@sincerelymike]

@@GabrielTorres-fl2xo that dark, dead look in his eyes as Chrissy takes his last breath. I just went back and watched the scene and i swear he even smirked a little. Scary indeed.

[@ianmangham4570]

@@sincerelymike Great wasn't it.

[@jordanl1911]

I think you read the end of the episode partially wrong. Tony didnt pay the rest of what he owed to Hesh out of false sympathy, he simply felt better because someone had worse luck than him. This type of behavior is pretty consistent in Tony throughout, but gets worse as the show goes on. Another example is in S3 when Janice goes to Anger Management class, it drves him crazy to see it is actually helping and Janice is showing genuine growth; the only thing that made him feel better was provoking her into a huge temper tantrum.. very similar situation here.

[@Jacintojudio3478]

Right on the money.

[@whitecheddar4458]

What he said to Carmela about the unborn baby was probably the most vile line in the series

[@slthjawa5062]

Why? Because it was true ?

[@CursedMusicbox333]

Nah "Look at you now" was the most vile line after Ralph bashed Tracee's head in.

[@whitecheddar4458]

Jesus dude. I can see the type of husband and father you would be.

[@slthjawa5062]

@@whitecheddar4458 lol, ok.

[@zxylo786]

@@slthjawa5062 Based

[@notd0ll109]

The episode is fantastic because it shows how expendable everybody is to Tony how he really is nothing more than a bully.

[@Spooky_515]

IMO Carmella and Tony are both greedy and seem to love money more than each other but Carmella deserved far more love and respect as the mother of his children, wife and wonderful homemaker

[@cosmicskates7721]

Yp and remember when Tony reversed his decision about leaning on the inspector,? only bc Carmela became a thorn in his side? Construction was kicked into high gear again once her nervous energy shifted to pursuing the safe whereabouts of Adriana.

[@Spooky_515]

@@cosmicskates7721 lol Tony is a self serving individualist

[@lotsofthisandthat9791]

Carmella balled AJ teacher, Furio, the preist, the interior decorator, the animal control guy, Meadows college President, the guy on motorcycle in Paris and the body building guy TS beat the shit out of. The signs were all there, but Carmella, like most women, was very sneaky and hid it from T, knowing he would kill her if he found out. YOU as the viewer were seeing the show thru TS eyes, thus, oblivious to fact Carmella was getting the pipe from GREATER number of dudes than bimbos T was plowing. Watch the series again with this in mind and you will see I’m correct. Carmella wa a s*** and audience didn’t see it, just like T didn’t see it.

[@cosmicskates7721]

@@lotsofthisandthat9791 kissing's no biggie lol do you mean Benny Fazio and Carm possibly hooked up during the backyard bear saga? The beefcake who Tony flipped out on never hung out w Carmela from what I remember, but ima investigate ur all ur suspicions stat 😆 oh BTW i almost pitched a fit a couple days ago- season 6a, the block-head prejudicial surgeon and his team in the OR cracking jokes about finding Jimmy Hoffa I'd like to think one of assistants was either rogue, or in cahoots w the feds, doesn't matter, and recorded the unethical dopes engaging in their unprofessional behavior lol and compare the surgeon's attitude w other violent or non-violent/ blue collar criminals who come across his operating table.

[@lotsofthisandthat9791]

@@cosmicskates7721 Not Benny, the wildlife officer who showed up when Carm called. Watch the episode carefully and aI think you will then agree. The entire series is filled with symbolism. YOU didn’t see it because TS didn’t see it, but it was happening multiple times throughout the series. Everyone feeling sorry for Carmella because TS nailing some hottie at the club, CS was not sitting around making lasagna.

[@HellNation]

Tony Soprano turned into a monster at the end. Yeah, he was in a war with his ultimate Nemesis Phil Leotardo, but the original Tony -not a saint but a nice dude-, was long time gone. In that sense The Sopranos is the original Breaking Bad.

[@JohnPepp]

Tony was a monster almost from the beginning as he killed a person in the first season in episode 4 or it might had been episode 3 when he took Meadow to look at colleges. This episode just reinforce that and showed Tony was more evil than people realized.

[@fouronesix8294]

I think they tried to make Tony more like John Gotti in this episode. Gotti was a notoriously bad gambler but always paid his debts even though he didn't have to because he's John Gotti. He said it wouldn't look right. Tony even mentions that about himself in this episode

[@thebeltingbalaclava4798]

You know he rang that bell the whole way home

[@carguy6512]

I've never seen the entire series, what happened to the $200,000 that Vito offered Tony to get back into the family?

[@fouronesix8294]

@@carguy6512 Phil leotardo and his goons kills him before Tony could really consider the 200k and letting him back in the fold

[@thebeltingbalaclava4798]

@@fouronesix8294 They found a 3 ball in his side pocket, Carlo's hankie in the other

[@ethancallaway8958]

@@thebeltingbalaclava4798 your on a roll "my fault they found Carlos lipstick on Vito's cock"😂😂

[@DdotRay86]

I still remember the chills this episode gave me the first time I saw it. To see this guy sink to the pathetic low of belittling his wife for not supporting his gambling, wasn't easy viewing.

[@PYRO-ON]

She wasn’t in shock that he knew about the 40k from bird feeder....He threw it in her face many a time before like during the separation...That aside , brilliant take on Tony’s fall into accepting and morphing into the evil heartless ruthless gangster he is....In that life there’s no half stepping you go all the way or you go none of the way unless you want to end up dead earlier than your early death from the lifestyle. He stopped fearing hell even with all the years of psychological warnings.

[@johnessk]

Yes I noticed that mistake too. This wasn't the moment that Tony revealed he knew about the 40K.

[@RR-lv3tp]

I'll admit, everytime I go back and watch the series again, which has been over a dozen times, I find myself rooting for Tony less and less. The way he treated Christopher, especially with his sobriety, was the lowest of the low. He preaches sobriety to Chrissy for 4 years, then does nothing but shit all over it, every chance he got. Then he acts like a hurt female, when he finds out Chris was smashing that real estate agent. Tony deserved, to get popped at the end 💯

[@tkgawa]

He was also out of pocket for beating Zellman for admitting to dating Irina, who Tony had broken it off with. Once his, or almost his, is always his.

[@kingndanorth]

Yeah beating Chris up for getting high after Adriannas death is a rough scene. It was all about Tony and his insecurities and paranoia. He could give a shit less how Crissy felt

[@jhoughjr1]

I got that the first time. But I often seek moral themes in media

[@jhoughjr1]

@@kingndanorth classic narcissist.

[@UserHasDied]

Too bad he might not have been killed

[@mothertongue8639]

I wonder what episode in the series showed the best possible version of Tony Soprano? We’re used to seeing Tony as a vile psychopath, but we know Tony, if he was raised and educated better, has the capability of being a good person.

[@fouronesix8294]

Maybe the episode where AJ tried to kill himself? Tony jumped in the water to save him and called him his baby as he cried. One of the only times you saw humility in Tony

[@bradhorowitz2765]

But then Consider what he did after: Tony continues to subtly insult his son, complains about the price of keeping AJ in a private hospital (make note of that as well), and does whatever he can to stifle AJ’s desire to join the military (which shows how hypocritical Tony actually is), and he refuses to take responsibly for how his behavior influenced his son. Tony MAY be caring, but he quickly reverts back to being an evil prick. It’s ALWAYS a short term thing for Tony. Finally, we have to consider this: Would tony kill AJ if AJ became a liability to his criminal enterprise? I only ask this because David Case admitted that by the end of the series, Tony WOULD kill Carmela should she became a problem.

[@cosmicskates7721]

Thank you Oliver Twist 😘 in my Queen Elizabeth II ❤ 👸 voice lol

[@VinnyGuardino]

@@bradhorowitz2765 I mean from what I remember i’ve finished sopranos twice.He talks to melfi feeling shitty aj got all of his shitty traits.how shitty he feels for aj having the sopranos genes but idk.i feel like that scene is one of his most human moments after aj tried to kill himself.also when aj tried to kill junior

[@aloneinthedark99]

probably the episode with the diddler soccer coach. Tony would never have been good though, at least he doesn't think so as he's still cheating on his wife as a normal man in his coma dream

[@johnlewisbrooks]

It's astonishing how happy go lucky the first season is and how it gets so dark near the end.

[@BayAreaMike99]

The episode I remember is when Tony was trying to validate himself being a piece of shit always asking “what am I a toxic person “ when someone says that they’re being a toxic person

[@jamesmorant1406]

Yes he was

[@ningenJMK]

You spent more time talking about manscaping balls than you did talking about the Sopranos.

[@mrd3016]

Nice!

[@AshVsEvilFred]

Sopranos fans talking about balls for 11 minutes

[@dmagwaza]

"Cold Cuts" is another contender.

[@joed9849]

Wonder if Hesh went on the same blood pressure medication as Vito.

[@olivieira2664]

Make one about the supernatural in the show!

[@cosmicskates7721]

Best suggestion ever 👌 i lose my mind over so many scenes, like @ 5:13 Heshy's face - like we viewers are nit print to all of the behind-the-scenes action and Hesh knew it was only a matter of time Tony would pull his crap again lol so he rigged his phone's ring tone to play Rihanna's B*tch Better Have My Money💰 and then fake a hella intellectual phone conversation or something ☎️ lol

[@cosmicskates7721]

@Gheywrld it wasn't even out then and plus her song plagued me 4 life for the longest time since my other angel presence of a landlord lady who never took me to small claims court for years of back-tent lmao, um, that song would fr make me cringe since I knew she had faith I would pay her back one day as best i could b4 I keeled over LOL I can breathe easier now that I paid my debt seriously plus I heart the video alot 😆

[@SnakesGaming2016]

2 minute commercial to start this video? my estimation of this channel just fucking plummeted.

[@Max-sv1pt]

Soprano Theories has no respect for this thing!

[@jhoughjr1]

noone has heard of manscape vpns or betterhelp or loot boxes though

[@DJCallidus]

Fast forward is a thing.

[@ihateallthethings2683]

All these years and I’m still obsessed with the sopranos

[@ManuelRodriguez-mg8km]

Me too dude you not alone

[@MegaAslan10]

A 2 minute advert in an 11 minute video, thats stretching our patience, even though your videos are good

[@ryanschlanser1657]

They really need to invent a fast forward button!

[@pennystocklocks]

He's not skimming enough off this channel

[@1frankmademedoit]

Hesh got away with never paying tax and honestly probably owed Tony millions of dollars. Tony always had a soft spot for him and Hesh took advantage of that. Why didn’t Marie just sell her home and relocate. Carmela was the greediest character in the entire show. I don’t think this episode highlights how evil Tony was, it shows how greedy everyone else around him was.

[@ennuiblue4295]

I like how Carmella was mad Tony helped Angie, but she sure took the money when Tony was in a coma

[@blenderbanana]

That's a really good point about Hesh and Marie

[@HueyPPLong]

Hesh and tony had a good friendship but they didn’t meet in grade school lol when they were talking about that tax tony also said “doesn’t Jr know 10 cents of every dollar he sees come from your shylock business” meaning basically hesh alone makes 10% of the New Jersey mafias money. That’s why they didn’t tax him cause they’re already making a fortune off of him. If evil ass season 6 tony thought hesh owed him anything he’d probably have said it

[@blenderbanana]

@@HueyPPLong Dude! Great Memory!

[@breadpirateoverhere]

This honestly is the most unintentionally funny episode too. Seeing tony slowly losing and getting more and more angry is hilarious to me. Especially when he's in the car listening to the game score and all he can do is turn off the radio, cracks me up

[@YukonJon]

It’s very morbidly funny. Something hilariously pathetic about him stroking his forehead realizing he’s going to have to let down Vito’s wife. Really shows how low of a point he’s at.

[@darrynmurphy2038]

I really, truly detested Tony after this episode, and it was only by kicking out Coco's teeth that I kind of liked him again

[@jfeenix]

He didn't get a gambling problem overnight, there were hints in episodes leading up to it. During certain episodes you'll hear Tony placing a bet but they don't draw attention to it.

[@eagleman1542]

I disliked Tony Soprano as much as I liked Jim Gandolfini.

[@bobbygermain5428]

The Sopranos is one of the best shows of all time. Thank you for the content keep up the good work!

[@devyiguess]

By the 6th season I wanted him gone, bro was irredeemable after what he did to Chrissy imo

[@A.Clifton]

He was already pretty bad but the way he killed Christopher was ice cold. Definitely agree that was when he became the villain of his own story.

[@MoskHotel]

@@A.Clifton He was already established of being the villain since the College episode, where he strangled Febby to death. However, that was where he did it out of justification for what Febby’s actions had affected on the mafia family. But Tony does become more villainous as the show goes on, and the final season was where he was at his most evil point.

[@jhoughjr1]

like all narcissists xare for others is just a tool to get what they want, like everything else in their world

[@bigdawg3305]

I haven't finished Ss6 yet.

[@maybachrob9475]

The lawnmower 4.0 never had the makings of a varsity razor

[@hex_gekko29568]

What critic doesn't like this episode. This one is a classic

[@GooblyWoobly69]

People consider this a bad episode? I love this episode

[@bobscott7440]

IMHO, there's no bad episode of the Sopranos. Some aren't quite as good as others, and one could make the argument that some could be classified as "filler" episodes.

[@floridaman2466]

@@bobscott7440 man have you watched “In Camelot” 😂 that’s the only episode i skip during rewatches

[@Professor__S]

@@floridaman2466 in Camelot gets a bad rep. But I kind of likes the episode. Had flash backs of tony dad, showed the conflict between Tony and Phil. It has its moments even though it's a bit of a filler episode.

[@floridaman2466]

@@Professor__S i agree it has some important story elements and cool scenes but man idk something about Fran just leads me to skip the episode😂 maybe she served her purpose of making the audience uncomfortable along with tony

[@sundjatamb3061]

I feel like this episode gets unnecessary hate b/c people don't like to see Tony be this brutally deconstructed. The whole point of this last season though is to show how deep-down Tony is just a reprehensible and supremely selfish human being; an anti-social narcissist whose charm only lasts as long as his winning streak, and who will terrorize his closest companions when his ego is crushed. He's been extremely lucky to beat death twice in the series, and what he chooses in season six is to become his worst self with his last chance. People say it's bad writing to "suddenly" make him a degenerate gambler, but really the entire mafioso lifestyle is a gamble, and as the center of multiple racketeering conspiracies Tony plays for the highest stakes. That's why the camera work is so shaky in this episode: his world is ajar, his own standing in it is shifting incomprehensibly. The race horse being named after his daughter but failing to save him from the anvil (of debt/death) hanging over his head is symbolic of Meadow failing to save his life in the finale

[@sleepyandhollow.]

this is why I have so much respect for david chase, he wasn't trying to make his main character a hero by any means. He wanted you to be fully aware how rotten he actually is...but carmela was so much more annoying to me

[@jhoughjr1]

yeah shows about villains are so rare

[@blenderbanana]

That is because you have fundamental resentment of women. You problaby dream of locking a several in a basement well: for a skinsuit. Because you are too old for HRT.

[@bigbrother8285]

I think the Kevin Finnerty episodes were supposed to make the audience feel good about Tony. To root for him and to stay behind him thereafter. Worked on some but not all.

[@celestebaca2275]

I think many people ended up rooting for him even if they don’t like to admit it. But just like the character, people were able to rationalize rooting for him because it’s just a show.

[@dbugatti91]

Disappointed with the manscaped ad at the start of the vid, as a premium viewer i want to avoid ads, if its something you want to add at the end fair enough but im here for content not ads

[@paulie-Gualtieri.]

2:13 of this fanook talkin about shavin, I'm sorry, I'm outta ere.

[@dadsnothome]

hehe

[@cavemanzach9475]

I think this episode was supposed to show that Tony is a thrill-seeking sociopath

[@greyghostscsa394]

You’re forgetting that it was Tony that bankrolled his gold digging wife’s little spec house project. So that $600k that she made was actually Tony’s money. She had already stolen $40k from him. And now she wants to hoard the money that Tony made from selling that house. All Carmella ever talked about was money money money. As Tony said she “equates love with money”

[@dangorgievski2907]

When I first watched this episode as a kid I thought Tony had Heshs girlfriend killed. His smile after leaving Heshs at the end house says a lot

[@michaelross1452]

Nah. Its to show his socio pathic nature. He revels in others misery/pain

[@TheMrBadua]

This episode will always be one of the hardest to watch. Not ever saying Tony is ever a "good guy". But like theories says it just shows how low Tony can go, as well what a degenerate he really is. I don't think is as much as "what he could be at his darkest" but who really is.

[@cornerofthemoon]

Chasing It is one of my favorite episodes...Guess I'm the only one.

[@Nokav]

damn first 2 min is an ad on a 10 min video had to stretch it for ad revenue huh

[@mansoaptheif]

i think it’s funny when people say he’s a sociopath and evil when he literally has to be like that in his position to stay alive in the mafia. if he wasn’t in the mafia and was a gardener you think he’d murder people and be a conniving sociopath? i don’t think so….

[@henry7696]

"he has to be that way to stay alive in the mafia" oh yeah? howd that work out for him in the end?

[@mansoaptheif]

@@henry7696 he is alive in the end…worked out for him i’d say

[@JohnPepp]

@@mansoaptheif that's your interpretation of the ending. I say Tony got whack along with his whole family as that is why it just faded to black.

[@mansoaptheif]

@@JohnPepp are you smoking meth….he didn’t die you can’t make up reality as you see fit.

[@goodyeoman4534]

To be fair, Tony did tell Dr Melfi right from the off that the concept of therapy was bullshit. Her professional pride couldn't allow her to agree, and only the group criticism by her dinner party mates made her change her mind.

[@tinytim9134]

To me season six largely focuses on money being symbolic of Tony’s corrupted soul. He used to use some of his money for good (or at least wisely), but now he is rarely using it in a positive way. As his character slowly degenerates further into despicablity, so too does the management of his wealth. Money = pride, and by this point his sense of pride has become hopelessly muddled. This is especially true because whatever shred of virtue that he could still grasp onto was likely killed along with Tony Blundetto. The only way he can feel good anymore is if he feels in complete control. It is hard for Tony to detach his sense of worth as a man from his ability to spend. If he doesn’t feel like he can afford to be reckless with his resources, he doesn’t feel like he is in control. His ego is convinced that people who aren’t generous with money are below him; in this episode he is spiteful towards Hesh for casually bringing up his hefty debt, and hateful towards Carmela when she doesn’t want to risk 100k. (He is a total hypocrite though because he repetitively gives Carmela crap for taking a measly 40k which he would gamble at the roulette table like nothing-another reason to dislike Tony.) When he offers to pay for Vito’s kid to go to Idaho for only 18k instead of the 100k the mom asked for, this is Tony offering a bandaid so he can feel good about the situation. Suffice it to say that if Tony cared about anyone besides himself, he would have treated quite literally everyone in this episode with more respect.

[@KillerMoth3]

Can you do a comparison video or a video about Boardwalk Empire? Like it's similar themes to the sopranos as well it's cast and anything else that ties both series?

[@czechchasercasey7956]

the way you put chrissy shaving for the ad😂😂😂 nice touch

[@jakepayne2985]

Does Manscape have you by the balls with a mandatory 15 minute ad in order to be sponsored?

[@OlCaptainBrownEye]

I love that I pay for KZbin premium just so you can incorporate an ad right into the video.

[@8bitvent]

This is my favourite episode of the entire series, to me this is the episode that answers the question the show ponders since the first episode, can tony become a better person before it is too late and evil fully consumes him, and this episode answers that with a resounding no. Kennedy and Heidi (my other fav ep) is the episode where tony fully embraces that he is evil and will not change.

[@rickrolledtruth5834]

Looks like hesh got his $$$.... for a price

[@NorthDallasForty.]

Tony Soprano would NEVER EVER use Manscaped ‼️‼️

[@wraynephew6838]

The most evil thing I saw Tony do was when he picked up the phone to call 911 after Chris crashed the truck. Then he decided to close the phone and choke the life out of a bleeding and badly injured person

[@colechapman6976]

I think it's ironic that his downfall is gambling. In season one he chased a guy down with Christophers' help and after beating him Tony called him a "degenerate fucking gambler." In another episode, he beat up his friend David Scatino for his gambling addiction as well. Now here he is, deeply in debt and falling apart due to gambling. You would think after watching the fall of these two gamblers, that something would register within Tony that would give him pause before gambling all his money away. He saw firsthand how gambling is a one-sided game where only the casino owners win but instead chose to gamble anyways. Shows what a genius he is

[@jmacaroni_sssj9944]

"Boss of the family and not pay my debts..how would that look.." -Tony P.

[@kingsavage3458]

Half the video was a man scape commercial 😂😂😂

[@kainkong274]

This episode really went for showing how truly pathetic, evil, spiteful, abusive, controlling, lousy, unsympathetic, cold and miserable Tony is…if ya thought he was bad in S1-S5, here in S6 he’s a demon. Never wanting to care about the scummy things he’d done

[@randomcenturion7264]

By season 6 he gave up. He stopped trying to pretend to be anything other that what he is: A monster.

[@kainlives7958]

@@randomcenturion7264a sick monster

[@willenglish7575]

Love the channel,keep the content coming !

[@Pilkie101]

I didn't know this episode wasn't well rated, it's one of my favourites.

[@geronimobouquett4617]

Could you make a video focusing on the character arc tony goes through from the beginning of the show to the end please?

[@rsmith7994]

Or even Christopher’s, since he’s so incapable of introspection that he can’t seem to see it.

[@Land_shark1]

Thanks for adding some content with your ad

[@cosmicskates7721]

🎶 I like my ☕ coffee with sugar and cream! Lol The Beastie Boys so don't get all mad, just joshin' 😘

[@molasorrosalom4846]

It's just a strange episode because it comes out of nowhere. Like when did he become a degenerate gambler all of a sudden?

[@Famous_Stars]

Tony been gambling since season 5

[@cozartboy1573]

Writers ran out of ideas

[@irishmacky8773]

This is how tony has always been this was just showing all at once while it was hiding Throughout the series

[@bascal133]

Carmela is 100% in the right for not gambling her money for Tony regardless of him putting down the down payment and being the breadwinner. Tony is a grown man, he chose have a traditional family with a stay at home wife and he chose to spot her the money for the house do can't give someone a gift then begrudge them for it every day after, then it wasn't a gift it was just a way to control them.

[@bigtony4356]

20% of the video being an ad makes me not want the product or watch the video

[@tomlynchsr2075]

You should have gone with some Vince & Johnny Cakes scenes for the Manscaped ad background

[@SergeantDetrimental]

Recently rekindled my love for The Sopranos series. Really enjoying your videos here. You can imagine my surprise when I found fan theories uploaded less than a month ago 😃

[@KaelWrit]

the friendship with Hesh ended in that moment because Hesh wanted genuine emotional support, not money. And Tony didn't even see that.

[@Shylestyles]

Gambling is a damn good way of admitting to yourself that you are unsatisfied with your lot in life and Tony takes it to the extreme. Livia and Junior irreversibly damaged Tony and the changes in his personality all stem from those events. I don't think he ever got true closure and he slowly transformed into a cold hearted sociopath. He has now realised how fickle and shallow his relationship with Carmella is and openly admits to hating AJ. Meadow has always been a brat or called Tony out for being a mobster/criminal and never truly reciprocated the love and affection that Tony showed. I think this is why Tony has such a deep love for animals, because unlike his family, they love unconditionally and show unquestionable loyalty. With the huge hole left in Tony's heart, it's no wonder that vices like drinking and gambling found their way in. It's very tragic because Tony genuinely seemed to know what he wanted for his family and he did everything possible to make life good for everyone around him. The shortcomings led him down a path of self destruction and we only saw glimpses of season 1 Tony as the series progressed.

[@jhoughjr1]

a hint, women dont like loud abusive assholes. She knew the kind of person tony was

[@yoyobowie1524]

what an interesting consensus to the show. but in reality, tony’s actions and his shortcomings are faults of his own. You can’t blame his wife and children for his problems because even if they were everything tony wanted them to be, he would never be satisfied. he was facing an internal battle everyday, nothing anyone else did could save him.

[@dtraversodt]

Tony hated AJ and adored Meadow cause the former was a lot like Livia and the latter was a lot like him

[@fad2679]

As always, a fantastic video. If you haven't already I'd love to see a character analysis about Christopher.

[@SopranoTheories]

I got one! The Downfall of Christopher Moltisanti

[@fad2679]

@@SopranoTheories Ah thank you, I'll watch it!

[@user-cc9bq1nr7c]

2 minute ad on a 10 minute video is wild

[@bigb860]

**SPOILERS - just being nice ** I'll always think Tony is at his worst in Kennedy & Heidi. He kills Chrissy leaving his wife a widow and baby girl fatherless, treats himself to a drug-filled fun time in Vegas while he making sure he bangs Christopher's former mistress, and shows zero remorse for any of his actions. He even continuously tries to justify it to his peers and wife. Clearly Tony's darkest hour, in my opinion.

[@WatchMaga]

“Just” a stay at home wife? Interesting choice of words.

[@stevebrizzle]

This is a rather clumsy episode re-cap and the scene where Tony pays Hesh back has been completely misinterpreted.

[@erics362]

He didn’t offer the tough love boot camp to make himself feel better, he did so because he blew the 100k he promised to give Vito's family to relocate and make a fresh start.

[@KidFresh71]

David Chase & James Gandolfini combined to create the greatest character in television history.

[@willy565]

I defend Tony when it came to his cut of Carm's house flip. He is the one that floated the money for the spec-house.

[@jhoughjr1]

not good marriage dynamics to be counting beans