Cheap Amazon Aliexpress or Chinese Crap? Kemi Moto 45L Motorcycle Top Case Box. Watch Before You Buy

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@John_Ridley Ай бұрын

I've bought TONS of stuff from Aliexpress. Never been badly surprised. Some of the stuff I've been pleasantly surprised. For instance the heated grips I got from them were $12 and they're better in EVERY way than the $80 Oxford heated grips that I had on my bike before. I have them on two bikes now for two years and still no problems at all. I've bought many other things there as well, motorcycle and other tech, no trouble.

@theboomerangbiker1966 Ай бұрын

@John_Ridley good to hear mate, me too.

@John_Ridley Ай бұрын

Going without is fine if all you do with your bike is ride to the pub or buzz around recreationally. For those of us who daily ride everywhere they can, you really almost can't avoid having a top case.

@theboomerangbiker1966 Ай бұрын

@John_Ridley I ride around Australia 🇦🇺, can't wait to review the Lone Rider MotoCase, stay tuned...!

@John_Ridley Ай бұрын

RE things rattling loose: I don't put ANYTHING on a motorcycle without using orange lock-tite on the fasteners.

@theboomerangbiker1966 Ай бұрын

@@John_Ridley a great tip!

@der_Appi 8 ай бұрын

Hello from germany 😉 Great video. Thanks for that! I'm actually an avowed top case hater, but I'm still dealing with the topic. Through extensive research into what the market has to offer, I can say the following: This and others that are absolutely identical and produced in China and different suppliers label them for their needs, i.e. for sale. They called Kemi Moto, Bagtecs, LesanM, Fydun, Kimiss, and so on. The design is the same, including and above all the interior lining, which at first appears to be hand-sewn and yet gives an appealing impression. The interior is completely missing from the premium manufacturers, for example, I'm thinking of Shad and/or Givi, Kappa. I know from Kappa that it is the “cheap rail” from Givi and that material has been saved here and there, but that doesn’t mean that it is bad. And these suitcases from China here, I would like to say the same thing. You just have to know why you need something like that. If you travel a lot and need a lot of volume, you will definitely choose other manufacturers (SW, H+B, etc.). But if you need a little storage space to store rain gear, daily food (water 0.5l), your drone, wallet or other stuff, this case is definitely a good choice because it's a cheap and acceptable solution. You get what you paid for! Or, you can look for tail bags where you can fit the most necessary things, which will certainly work too. It's all a question of personal needs Keep up the good work 👍 Greetings from my channel Appi

@abudhabidel1 5 ай бұрын

Well said - my thoughts exactly. I'm a top box hater BUT I find myself in a situation where I need to store stuff when I'm not on the bike. At the moment, Lash all my bits to the seat, then put a cover on for the week - a to box would make this process more slick. I'd take the box off for the periods in between work - so I can still swing my leg over!

@der_Appi 5 ай бұрын

@@abudhabidel1 I made the descision testing a topcase in 22 liters. Looks good. Not too big and as I said before, that what I have to carry with me is 22 liters absolute acceptable. It is called bagtecs XB22 from motea.

@preston2adelaide 11 ай бұрын

I bought this exact same top box from a retailer on Amazon. Paid $250aud delivered to 5000. Unfortunately it was damaged in shipping and took three weeks of messaging and complaints logged to Amazon to get a refund once I returned it, but never telling me how to reclaim my return postage. I eventually got a response from the retailer who just said “refund processed, keep the box!”. It’s still usable but the dent doesn’t inspire me that it will last too well in the event of a fall. You’ve inspired me to go double check all my fixings - and I think I might also add the paracord loop. Cheers

@theboomerangbiker1966 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for the feedback mate, sorry to hear your woes. Typical, customer service is all over you to get the order then gives the runabout if there's an issue!

@musicadefe4837 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for the "rant" because that made the point very clear. I don't want to lose a top case.

@theboomerangbiker1966 3 ай бұрын

@musicadefe4837 yeah, I got carried away a bit there!

@musicadefe4837 3 ай бұрын

@@theboomerangbiker1966 it was necessary.

@patpaluch9842 Ай бұрын

Thanks for the video and the warning. I have similar box on order from Amazon and I’ll make sure to use proper quality fasteners!

@theboomerangbiker1966 Ай бұрын

@patpaluch9842 glad I could help and thanks for watching.

@gwocni 10 ай бұрын

Ha! I bought this box (well Actually a 65l Version) to carry sleeping bags or other light but bulky stuff for my GS. I did use a Givi back plate to suit the bike and then used the universal plate supplied. Same crappy kit you got to secure it, spanner and all, so I never opened the bag. I used my own nuts and bolts to attach it to the Givi plate and no danger of it coming off. BTW... Bought from a German company for about 100 of our finest British Pounds and a further 4 Quid for postage. Packing as you described too. Someone is profiteering methinks. Great box too.

@theboomerangbiker1966 10 ай бұрын

Good to know it wasn't just me then! Thanks for the great feedback mate. Cheers, Nick

@ronbosgra8230 7 ай бұрын

Thank you for the heads up! I'm looking at the version without the X bevel stamped on the sides for around €114 incl. shipping from a European warehouse. You gave me all the necessary warnings! A word of advice to you about the bungee cord; do it on both sides. IF it slides out of the 4 slots completely, it will most likely pivot around the point where you attached it and probably fall over and whack your exhaust end can or rear tire. I find it a good idea and will use the same tactic! My friend has a motea version of it, which has a lit that can come fully off. On of the bars tore off, that you explained locks the box to the adapter plate, and almost knocked me off the bike whilst I drove behind him. Now he uses a tiewrap on one side to just open the box on one side. Chinesium quality, we love the price but we need to live with the possible consequences😂

@theboomerangbiker1966 7 ай бұрын

100% and thanks for the great advice

@KrakensGarageandAdventures 11 ай бұрын

I do a few reviews, and sometimes, the baby is ugly. I appreciate you being honest about it. There are very few YTers that share the facts. Well done!

@theboomerangbiker1966 11 ай бұрын

Thanks mate. I had high hopes for this case as my mate has a similar one on his GS, but I'll continue to use it until the Lone Rider product is released - then I have a great idea on what to use the Chinese one for... a little home DIY project...

@gregorymcnear6474 4 ай бұрын

My box is very similar, but I have a plastic base plate and it has a screw through the box with a big knob to secure it to the base, so the attachment is plastic no metal like yours and no tubes on the lid to fasten stuff, it does have the 3D printed corners to fit straps. Thanks for you review I think your box is better, you should drill holes in the latch plate once the position is good so it no longer can slide around. Extra work though 😄👍😉😉

@theboomerangbiker1966 4 ай бұрын

@gregorymcnear6474 that's a great idea mate, thanks. I took the plunge and I'm waiting on the new MotoCase to arrive from Lone Rider...

@NoName789dfgnjkld 8 ай бұрын

Not sure if it's super safe to have this dangling from the side if the bolts get loose but probably still a better option than literally having it drop on the road.

@theboomerangbiker1966 8 ай бұрын

The paracord prevents it from sliding backwards out of the brackets, so it can't drop off the back or dangle over the side...

@Steve.D 11 ай бұрын

Sounds like the box held up very well after it's tumble down the road. Shame about the latch though.

@theboomerangbiker1966 11 ай бұрын

Yeah I was quite surprised but annoyed that it fell off in the first place!

@mikefreitas1331 4 ай бұрын

Great review. I have to share a painter trick for the smell with you guys. Just cut an onion in half and let it absorve all the smell for one night. Regarding the mounting sistem i believe it should be the other way around. It should slide from front to back. Beside the bumps and gravity pulling the box off the plate if you have a passenger they will put some extra force to slide the box off. Sorry about my english. Did my best. Thanks again for the review.

@theboomerangbiker1966 4 ай бұрын

@mikefreitas1331 great advice, thanks mate!

@jamespolucha8790 4 ай бұрын

I know some friends are buying the plastic gun boxes that are super strong and fairly inexpensive just need a locking plate

@theboomerangbiker1966 4 ай бұрын

@@jamespolucha8790 I have a friend who has done the same for his drone.

@peterdawson7775 11 ай бұрын

I get where you are coming from with the fasteners , I've always had to replace the fasteners on the 'stuff' out of China, they rust and bad machining with the threads, cheers.

@theboomerangbiker1966 11 ай бұрын

Sadly it's the same when you buy things for diy too. Every roller blind I've ever tried to install has had a least a couple of the fitting screw snap or shear. You always have to replace them!

@SandraOrtmann1976 3 ай бұрын

Hmm...I was very tempted by these, I have to admit that. On the other hand, my Givi boxes have lasted for 25 years now. We just got into motorcycle camping, and I was really annoyed with packing them (my husband just got new SW Motech ADV trax boxes. I packed one of them and loved the process. Have used my boxes until now just to store my bike gear while sightseeing). So I got used Motechs now, same model. Decent price. Something tells me it is plain wrong to put this aluminium topcase next to them. I am not in urgent need for an alu topbox (I have a plastic Kappa one which is shaped a bit impractical), so I might just hunt for a nice used box from SW Motech. They cost a fortune, but are really well built. These look a lot like a knockoff of them, some even have the "X" of the SWs. Strange. Guess I will stay away from them. You get indeed what you pay for...sometimes quality used is better then crap new.

@theboomerangbiker1966 3 ай бұрын

@SandraOrtmann1976 Thanks for the feedback! Agree, buy quality, buy it once. I've given up on it and I'm waiting for the new Lone Rider MotoCase to arrive, supposed to be any day now... Stay tuned...!

@GrantW219 3 ай бұрын

I just orderd one from temu, £117 for the 100L, Its more to store 2 helmets or jacket when not in use, but defo will get it locked down with back up methods just incase

@theboomerangbiker1966 3 ай бұрын

@@GrantW219 glad I could help mate

@AdventureGlide 11 ай бұрын

That’s a bummer. You always hope someone can make a decent alternative. Kemi Moto sent me some stuff to review no top box but heated socks which I thought might be nice for the sleeping bag on a cold night. Not so much in riding boots. Some other heated gear none of them lasted longer than 30 mins. Good job staying professional that’s not a skill I have! 😂😂😂. Thanks for the review. It’s been a while.

@theboomerangbiker1966 11 ай бұрын

Heated socks, wow toasting, but how's the aroma mate?

@AdventureGlide 11 ай бұрын

hahaha@@theboomerangbiker1966

@simonbeal2148 6 ай бұрын

i was looking at a 65l version of these and for the sake of some decent bolts to replace seems a decent option

@theboomerangbiker1966 6 ай бұрын

100% not a bad product but check the fittings and add a safety strap just in case. I'm going to sell mine as soon as the Lone Rider MotoCase arrives

@markphillips8078 11 ай бұрын

I get your point about the fasteners. I’ve had similar issues . But apart from that is the box waterproof and dust proof, the strength didn’t seem to be an issue

@theboomerangbiker1966 11 ай бұрын

I've been out in heavy rain and there wasn't any leaks, but I haven't been on any dusty trails yet. Time will tell I guess...

@ShedOfDreams Ай бұрын

So you got a reasonable box cheap, and not happy about spending a few dollars for Some decent nuts and bolts? I will still save tons of loot overs a bmw or givi case. The other video on KZbin shows a hand screwed bolt under the bottom padding. Did yours not have that? Any handy person could do that in a few minutes. I will. I carry photo gear as well. Sorry you were dissatisfied. I always expect to replace standard fittings when I purchase Chinese stuff. Thanks for the heads up and for making the video. Helpful. Ride safe.

@theboomerangbiker1966 Ай бұрын

@ShedOfDreams definitely nothing under the radioactive padding 😉 mate! Going by your logic... if I bought a BYD car or any other Chinese vehicle I should expect to change out all the fasteners? I've given up on this case, it's gathering dust at the back of the garage and I have a new Lone Rider MotoCase ready to unbox and review, stay tuned...!

@ShedOfDreams Ай бұрын

@@theboomerangbiker1966 Not sure why anybody would buy a Chinese vehicle lol. For anybody that reads this: My box came two days ago. I had to drill two extra holes for the plate mounting to fit my honda. I removed the nuts and bolts holding the box clip thingy, and replaced, with stainless steel nuts and bolts, 4 larger washers each side for extra grip, plus spring washers. To coin the old phrase "that aint going nowhere". my plan was to drill a 3mm hole in the adjustabe bracket and lock it with a rivet or small nut and bolt, but having snapped 6 drill bits I can confirm it must be stainless! I also, for the sake of experiment used zip ties each side of the rear connectors (where you put a lanyard). Partly to confuse any would be thieves who might prize open the box to plate lock. all in all, about £2 of my English pounds. making the box £87 in total. (Amazon). Visordown want £179 for the same box. ride safe. PS if you buy any Chines Motorcycle spotlights, of any description one is goinfg to have to strip them down and add sealant to waterproof their "waterproof" lights!

@mattgolding7557 10 ай бұрын

I’m still tempted as I can get it here in the uk for about £75 including shipping…the Givi one is £270 and I can only see me bolting it on once or twice a year whilst I’m on European tours, apart from that it will reside on my garage shelving….so I’m prepared to compromise under those circs….if it were to live on my bike and get used daily, I’d probably shell,out for the Givi. Brand…as other have said you pays your money you takes your chance !

@theboomerangbiker1966 10 ай бұрын

Totally agree mate. Just check the fasteners are secure and add the safety loop or similar, just in case... Cheers, Nick

@Noorontwowheels 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for the video it was very good review and the tip to keep the box safe from fulling .....keep it up great video👌💯

@theboomerangbiker1966 8 ай бұрын

Thanks, glad you found it helpful. I'm waiting for delivery of the new Lone Rider MotoCase, cant wait!!!

@tamasvarga67 2 ай бұрын

Good thinking securing with the paracord!

@theboomerangbiker1966 2 ай бұрын

@@tamasvarga67 Thanks, but I should have done it before it fell off the bike! 😉

@tamasvarga67 2 ай бұрын

@@theboomerangbiker1966 That would have been better I know, but at least you gave an idea to others. I’m just waiting for the same box (branded as Bagtecs XB45 ordered from Motea) and I’ll do the same when installing it.

@milabaigar 7 ай бұрын

I bought one exactly the same with lined out really nice I wanted 35 liter they had run out so sent me 45 for same price 176€ for the money I think really good , bmw aluminum noliner 350€ and probably made in chyna too ! I replace nylon head nuts so no vibraciones. Really it’s not rocket science to tighten the nuts common sense as regards torque values! Just saying . Ride safe guys

@theboomerangbiker1966 7 ай бұрын

I'm an engineer mate, if I'd overtightened them and they sheared, then they wouldn't have covered that either. It's not rocket-science to include proper installation instructions - just saying 😆

@davehalliday6657 5 ай бұрын

I bought this box and watched your video, I dont dare use it now. My back ground is engineering and feel people are missing a vital design fault which is the silver slide brackets on the bottom of the box would be better turned around so the bottom bracket tightens into the sliders, how it is now is the bracket pulls the sliders lose. I have talked with the company over this fault they just sent me a fitting video so obviously don't listen to you. Love your videos ride like you've stole it but stay safe.

@theboomerangbiker1966 5 ай бұрын

I'm also an engineer mate and it's definitely a design flaw. Kemi Moto completely ignored me too. The paracord is a good safety check...

@mikefreitas1331 4 ай бұрын

Did you put those under brackets or they were already mounted on the box??? Shouldn't they be monted the other way around? Have you tried that? So the box slides from front to back???

@theboomerangbiker1966 4 ай бұрын

@@mikefreitas1331 they were already mounted on the box. Virtually no instructions included, just a link to an aliexpress page that has no written details, just a couple of pictures!

@gegoco Ай бұрын

Excellent observation, I thought exactly the same as you. Imagine The passanger laying on the box the moment you start the motorcycle. I think it would be a good idea to turn over those brackets.

@TasosChitas 6 ай бұрын

I read on aliexpress someone had to make new holes on the cf moto 800 mt to fit. Anyone know if this is necessary ?

@pureblood2020 7 ай бұрын

Geez, looks like it needs to be returned! Ill keep my Givi top box.

@theboomerangbiker1966 7 ай бұрын

They're not interested mate!

@spiroskaltsoukalas9692 2 ай бұрын

I received today.Exactly the same.The box is 100% plastic.

@theboomerangbiker1966 2 ай бұрын

@@spiroskaltsoukalas9692 and smells of chemicals?

@mikefreitas1331 20 күн бұрын

I just can't get to pass this out of my mind... "WHY THE F..K DON'T THEY INVERT THOSE UNDER PLATES?!?" So the box would slide from front to back. Even if it got loose it would stay on the rack. Don't forget the passenger will do some force with his back on the box. Is it because of the height of some bike seats?!? I am no engineer just gain some bush/swamp/island skills over te years and i just can't swallow that fabrication. I will take those rivets out and invert those fixation plates. Some of these boxes the lock plates are on the flat bottom side, but these are worse to revert. Two are easy but 2 will have to be bent. Hope i am not dilusional as the guy that made that box, I WILL USE LOCTITE ON EVERY SINGLE SCREW!!!

@theboomerangbiker1966 20 күн бұрын

@mikefreitas1331 that's a great idea, but you would need to take the rear seat off to remove the box as the box is lower, but no big deal!

@mikefreitas1331 20 күн бұрын

@@theboomerangbiker1966 i bought a 45L box that's fairly simple to turn it around. Just installed it on my 450MT and the fixing plate leaves room to take it out without taking the seat off. Bua as you said it's no big deal to do.

@iurox 9 ай бұрын

Great review! S-o knoing this, would you buy thi topcase again? I am asking this, cause I consider to buy one.

@theboomerangbiker1966 9 ай бұрын

Probably not, but just given the lack of a Kemi Moto's interest in customer. It was all negative, but it hurts to be honest

@iurox 9 ай бұрын

@@theboomerangbiker1966 ok, s-o I guess rather pay more and get a good one. I will go for Shad 58x.

@Selianin1 10 ай бұрын

Yeah well, I support you about the entire experience and totally get where you are coming from. But do you not agree with the saying "you get what you paid for" ? It is good money as you said, but nowhere near OEM top case from BMW or any other aftermarket manufacturer. In fact, now that I know the risk, I still might go for it, just lower the expectations, it's 3-4 times cheaper than OEM. Thanks for the vid!

@theboomerangbiker1966 10 ай бұрын

Yep, that old saying is still valid, probably now more than ever. Just be sure to add the safety device and some decent nuts and bolts.

@Selianin1 10 ай бұрын

@@theboomerangbiker1966 yep, thanks for the hint, will do so. By the way, do you think the plate will fit a standard rack (K50, non-adventure)

@theboomerangbiker1966 10 ай бұрын

@@Selianin1 most probably

@_R4nd0m. 5 ай бұрын

"Watch before you buy" means that, basically, you shouldn't. Is it what you meant?

@theboomerangbiker1966 5 ай бұрын

No, it means watch before you buy and then make up your own mind rather than being a sheep. And... my little hacks may save you suffering the same issues

@heyoldtime8969 7 ай бұрын

You are totally in order.

@gwocni 10 ай бұрын

No problemo mate...

@theboomerangbiker1966 9 ай бұрын

no worries!

@markmagee8755 4 ай бұрын

If I bought this top box, knowing what I know now, I'd change all the nuts & bolts to stainless steel with nylock nuts secure the small plate that came loose with them & a couple of extra fixing too, possibly pop rivets or a couple of nuts & bolts too! 👍

@theboomerangbiker1966 4 ай бұрын

Glad it helped mate!

@mikefreitas1331 4 ай бұрын

First thing i thought was locktite on the bolts and two/four bolts under the paded liner from the inside to lock it in place.

@mikefreitas1331 4 ай бұрын

Those under brackets should turn the other way around. From what i see 2 can be turned the other way but 2 are more dificult. If i buy this topcase i will build two inverted brackets.

@dynamadnessadventures205 11 ай бұрын

Great video. But wouldn’t expect anything else out of China. Ride safe buddy

@theboomerangbiker1966 11 ай бұрын

Chinesium Alloy!

@koalajs 10 ай бұрын

Another gob sh*the. Get over yourselves. Everything is made in china and made according to the money someone is willing to pay

@ralph1252 11 ай бұрын

Great review mate

@theboomerangbiker1966 11 ай бұрын

Thanks mate, appreciate the feedback...

@theboomerangbiker1966 11 ай бұрын

A decent Top Case / Box, but let down by the poor quality fasteners and lack of detailed instructions / torque specs. What do you think, would you agree?

@John_Ridley Ай бұрын

I've never seen anything like this come with torque specs. Not from anyone. I kind of expect to get crap fasteners and just have a selection of decent stainless hardware that I use right off the bat and throw away the threaded butter they send you.

@colinharding851 6 ай бұрын

Great Review thanks

@in2ADV 11 ай бұрын

Don’t hate on the crocks!!! 😂

@theboomerangbiker1966 11 ай бұрын

Ha ha, one day I may come out of the Crocs closet!

@kangacrew540 3 ай бұрын

105 bucks now and 50 buck shipping. I still think its pricey for what u get. Looks like a bunnings storage box. Thanks for your review. No thanks 😅😅😅

@theboomerangbiker1966 3 ай бұрын

@@kangacrew540 Agreed, it's an ugly looking thing. Can't wait for the Lone Rider MotoCase to arrive...

@20cent 2 ай бұрын

These boxes are available everywhere, Aliexpress, Taobao, etc. Kemimoto doesn't make them, they are just one of the (earlier? few?) resellers for the western market. Depending on the "brand" or the reseller, you'll have a 2~5x markup price. These plattforms are, well, platforms. Just like Amazon. Good and bad sellers there. Everyday people are scammed by Amazon sellers, that doesn't make Amazon a scam. And yeah, you mentionned "common sense". Not saying you lack some of it, but they are technically right. The product works as intended, you just installed it wrong, although it has no instructions. That's the trade off of these products. Don't buy them from a reseller that's just a fake brand, and the price and product you paid for will make more sense and be acceptable.

@theboomerangbiker1966 2 ай бұрын

@20cent I didn't install it wrong mate, if there's no instructions then there can't be a right or wrong way. I'm an engineer and I tightened the bolts up to what I thought was an acceptable torque but was worried about shearing them as they're chinesium alloy 😉 Anyway, the piece of junk motocase is in my rear view mirror (pun intended) sd the awesome new MotoCase just arrived from Lone Rider. Review to follow...!