Cheap Citroën C6 Project 12: Cooling System Repair VLOG pt1

Welcome back to ‪@SeasideGarage‬ ....doh! I mean, welcome to UPnDOWN.
The C6 has many coolant leaks. I'm aiming to sort them all out, in one single day. Do-able, surely? Well, clearly not, as this is a 'vlog' and there is more than one part.
Oh, the pain.
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[@dandandan389]

Nice shout out to Seaside Garage!

[@michaelwright2986]

Dead Sea Soap is a popular item: at 8:45, it is clear that someone has used Red Sea Coolant Fluid. The plastic breaking is shameful. In the 1950s and 1960s, manufacturers of a wide range of products were finding out what sorts of plastics worked well in what circumstances, and sometimes they got it wrong and high quality items became unusable. But by the 21st century, they should have got it worked out. And I suspect the engineers do know when to use plastics, and what sorts of plastics work well where. But cars are now designed by accountants and marketing. Will we, one day, start getting nostalgic over the design and construction of BMC/Leyland cars: "Yes, they're crap now, and they were crap then, but you can fix them (again and again)." I was getting worried about you, but then you said you were going to have a sandwich, and I knew you'd be ok.

[@nickhaag7803]

Your intros are getting more out there by the day. Citroens are finally affecting your brain. It's a nice place to be though, sort of.

[@ebutuoyYT]

I swear that some time in the 90s, a few senior automotive executives were on holiday or on business in Africa, they noticed all these old Mercedes and Peugeots running about, on roads almost, as crap as current UK ones, the cars also seemed to be maintained with the motto of "All expense spared", but these old cars just kept on going, year after year. Upon return to their offices, they swore to make all future cars, as durable as chocolate condoms, the accountants and major shareholders did a little dance, and we all got slowly shafted.

[@joolsgrudgings5776]

It really is just heat cycles that kills the plastics. Mercedes started to put plastic water pumps on some of their Diesel engines and when they eventually crack they send you a metal one as a replacement - go figure - it’s all junk now…. Love your videos !

[@UPnDOWN]

Same with Ford, who used to fit plastic cam pulleys to Zetec SE engines when new!

[@JeffLongley]

Superb start!! Literally did a double take thinking I’d started the wrong videos! Once again, good to see things being done properly rather than bodge and say “they all do that!”

[@TotoGeenen]

Always happy to watch a C6 video

[@PaddyWV]

If you don't have a "Because French" hoody yet, you deserve a complementary one, I'd say! Sending good vibes.

[@jorgefernandez-mv8hu]

I agree with you about the plastic cooling parts. Yhey only make one hate the company that puts them in the cars more. Good Luck with your repairs.

[@SeasideGarage]

Mmmm bacon .... 😅

[@shepshepherd]

I saw a black 'GJ59' C6 in Stanmore this morning which immediately put me in mind of yours :)

[@Matu007]

I hope you wont sell it. As a C6 owner those videos are highly informative.

[@owensteele1645]

Always great to see progress with the 'Sea-sicks'. The Nissin radiator should be better quality than the genuine item. Nissin also make brake components for Honda cars and motorcycles.

[@2008tourer]

That's Seaside Garage took me SO off guard 😂😂

[@markwgoldsmith]

I know what you mean about plastics - I wonder if 3D printing is going to be the answer, though? It's getting more accessible every day.

[@josephjardine32]

Was just about to say this, I definitely think it will be especially now that 3D printed metal is starting to be really good

[@fulminatorc6]

I am kind'a betting on that. Not just the 3d printers, but 3d scanners and materials evolved a lot in the last few years, one day we probably be able to just order the part we need from somebody smart enough to produce them :D

[@UPnDOWN]

That's where we're heading, I reckon.

[@WorivpuqloDMogh]

​@@fulminatorc6already the case with LHM return Y pieces. Twice as durable

[@charliecoco2115]

Don't forget to back and forward flush the heater matrix out at the bulkhead inlet / outlet connections.

[@mikes747]

Urgh! I feel your pain looking at that job! Recently had to do similar on a 2.0 hdi and that nearly made me have a citroen bonfire!

[@kimmohietala5359]

I had to order a new rocker cover for the C5 and it took about a month to arrive. Joys of living the on the other side of the world from where the parts are 😢

[@nfc153]

The electrical connectors are different so that you don't mix them up when plugging the wiring back together - that is actually sensible. Plastic cooling parts, however, are only sensible if you expect the car to have a limited lifespan. It would be interesting to know how many of these bits are shared with the C5, the 407 and the Jags and LRs that were also running this engine (or a variant thereof).

[@louistyson8840]

The thermostat looks pretty similar to the plastic one I had to change on a similar JLR V8 recently, so suspect they’re similar or the same on the V6 (with a few changes to fit the packaging constraints)

[@fulminatorc6]

A car company that says that the gearbox is sealed for life, doesn't really think that the car should have long life... Also the same company (yes, pointing fingers to Citroen) suggests 30.000km between oil changes... So again, they want very limited lifespan. Probably slightly longer than the warranty.

[@stefencooke]

I did the a hose that runs over the top of the radiator on a BMW E90 ended up having to do the top hose as the small hose that I was replacing joins on to it and brakes at the join then when trying to remove top hose it broke the join on the rad so had to replace that as well luckily with being in line 3 and 6 had very good access

[@tweed532]

That cough 'n' splutter start up is reminiscent of next doors diesel Kuga every morning @7.00am as they go swimming, darned retirees. Oh my 2010 Fiat 500 1.2L also had a plastic pipe stub crack on the thermo housing after only 7 years, prior to that '94 BMW E34 radiator stub and block transfer pipe at 11yrs old, all brittle. Huh... 🚗🛠️🙄😶

[@kevinelkins9955]

It was K -seal from when the pipe under the wheel arch went in the middle of France ! :-) The thermostat housing was replaced after Citroen in Basingstoke shagged the original when they changed the timing belt.

[@stuartmecham]

Cant believe after all the time watching your videos that you're just up the road from me.

[@xnetcascais]

hi. thanks for such relaxing and detailed video. have you got any issue with the cap from the coolant pipe? the one that was a top connection direct to coolant reservoir in the shape of L (you can see it at 04:54 and at left side 05:15)

[@peteredwards7872]

Arrrgh!!😱😱😱. Best content on the internet 👏👍

[@michaelmcandrew9217]

Rich you'll also need a 1336Y2 which you haven't mentioned in your parts list to be changed. Don't miss it or you'll be in there again very soon...

[@UPnDOWN]

Ah...too late 😔

[@proluxelectronics7419]

I think Citroën brewed their own plastic formula, you should find the plastic marked with GF (glass fill) then a number of percentage. Worked OK on other makes.

[@UPnDOWN]

Not sure. There are Ford part numbers over a lot of it.

[@christophersinclair6155]

You and the c6 are both stars Richard quirky and unique really enjoy your videos

[@daniellee9015]

Absolutely brilliant video kich I love the c6 I'm in 2 minds if you buy one as I bought a Astra SRi 13 plate in January and the head gasket as blown I keep hearing don't buy this car buy that car can you advise me If I should get one I know Ian is a big influence on me when he did his review

[@UPnDOWN]

Advise if you should get what? An Astra?

[@michak7793]

Check return rubber pipeline - number- 5270rz. IT likes to split. This is return low preassure hose

[@massimilianoviola4467]

Good morning could someone, please, tell me what part is the one he removes and hold in his hands at 13:05? I have an oil (vapors?) leak from the lower flange of this parts on my C6 and I'm trying to figure out what's the problem.

[@davidsharp9166]

I had a sudden need to go, to the bathroom during the drain down

[@MrManBuzz]

I hate plastics in engine bays. The heat cycles is what destroys them. Plastic is cheap, light and durable, but give it 20 years of heat cycles and it's done. The only saving grace for these modern plastic infested cars is 3D printers will likely keep them alive. 3D printers are getting more and more advanced, as are the printing materials, and a lot of the stuff is open source so there actually is a decent chance some of these will survive.

[@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt]

Sandwiches make everything better 😋

[@nickdoughty518]

Just stumbled across this. What a nightmare of a car.

[@TassieLorenzo]

To be fair, it's the top of the range V6, so more complicated than most. The cooling system on my Renault was nearly as bad (20 hoses and full of plastic junctions) despite being the humble F4R four cylinder. They are a far cry from the simple cooling system (mainly just a top and bottom radiator hose) on a naturally aspirated Honda K or J engine! 🙂

[@UPnDOWN]

Nightmare to work on, but a dream to possess and travel around in.

[@Blind-Dave]

Love the opening….

[@johnhealy2001]

That pipe that broke cost me £80 second hand pipe changed all that the same time as timing belt kit

[@fulminatorc6]

at 26:10... is that 1343KV??? and if yes, from where did you got it new? P.S. 1351KV exists in metal format, made by a french guy Créative Inox in case you may not be aware :) (I have a link)

[@UPnDOWN]

You were ahead of me, and I never saw this!

[@johnboy384]

😆😅🤣, Danish Bacon. Lmao!

[@clivetucker176]

Top draw as ever.

[@AlexBarrettOWI]

Hunting for "Brown Stains", a different element to your posts?

[@Tagora2664]

Makes me wonder if any of these cars are going to make it to classic status. I fear not. 😕 People seem to think plastic doesn't deteriorate........ 🐂💩

[@fulminatorc6]

Definitely they are going to make it. There are many fans, club, groups, one of the very active and helpful communities out there. And many people are now aware of the coolant pipe issues, parts issues, frequent oil changes and so on 😊

[@-sargntclashroyaleandmore-491]

Dont we love it when parts take ages to come 🙄😂

[@tomicarr90]

I think the thing we all really need to know is this... Was it a good sandwich?

[@UPnDOWN]

I can't actually remember. I made it, so probably not.

[@MGBetts1]

Because French! 😂🤣

[@mrsmith697]

Hm tomato Soup

[@iangrice329]

I've seen better plastic in a kinder egg 😢🤬

[@UPnDOWN]

😆

[@RumpleXStiltXSkin]

They make them out of plastic because they are Citroen…..cheap rubbish

[@UPnDOWN]

I mean, they're Ford parts, but sure...