Cheap logic analyzer + Sigrok pulseview = timesaver (LHT00SU1)

[@joeattapon]

Your video helped me a lot on setting up a Hantek 6022BL Logic Analyzer with PulseView software from Sigrok project. Thank you.

[@backlash00]

Great video. I know this was 4 years ago but I have a $650 4 channel oscilloscope that, for what I do with it, is no better then this. I ordered one. Also, they have fixed the Android app I guess, it runs on my phone. Must wait for Banggood to test it. Thank you.

[@dpruimboom]

The small pulse at the start of the serial transmission is the time it needs to put the message in the transmit buffer of the arduino serial driver. . .

[@ohmedarick1]

I'm sold. I'm getting this logic analyzer.. Thank you

[@joe0932]

It''s funny, I was thinking about buying a logic analyser yesterday but didn't know what one to get. Then you go and release this video! So I've bought this one as it looks like it'll be great for my purposes. Cheers!

[@glenng.8254]

5:40 gets us to the actual tutorial and screens :-) Great video mate !

[@Johan-ex5yj]

Very useful ; thank you. Note: SPI bus requires even higher sample rate: 12MHz or more.

[@jeanmorin4580]

This is so cool! Thank you. I just purchased a LHT00SU1 too. This'll be useful. Good vid.

[@dng88]

After nearly a decade this is still the best to explain … timing … freq change (mine at least 250k for Apple m2 with stm ) … 1g sample … pull resistor ground -sda … usb host android … so much info. New version of i2c still confused me as there are three now. And the device is now thumb size!

[@freeelectron8261]

Another really useful tut from iforce2d. Living in oz its nice to hear that familiar accent and delivery style. :) Just sub'ed.

[@bensge1]

The serial is asynchronous, I noticed that too :p I'm not sure if it's hardware or software-based, but obviously Serial.print only puts the data in a buffer. It's sent later, in a serial interrupt probably.

[@byronwatkins2565]

Arduino buffers the Serial messages and utilizes the UART's interrupts to sequence the transport byte by byte.

[@None1000-c8z]

very nice & helpful. wonderful... is there any such way to find JTAG pins too?

[@whollymindless]

When I looked into Sigrok, I thought I read that it needed to replace the firmware on the analyzer and that had turned me off - assuming it would have disabled the original crippled/cloned functionality. Thanks for this!

[@joelholdsworth]

The firmware is loaded into device RAM at runtime. No permanent changes are made.

Thank you for that very informative video!

[@Jindraxx20]

Hello there ! Thank you for the video content !!! It was very informative. I would like to ask a question, does this logic analyzer have analog functionality ? (analog inputs) like the saleae does ?

[@iforce2d]

There are two analog inputs, it depends on the software whether they are supported. Back when I made this video, no analog was supported by Pulseview. But when I checked just now, the latest Pulseview in my Fedora Linux distro actually does support analog. Just one channel, seems like up to 12MHz.

[@Jindraxx20]

@iforce2d thank you very much for the information !!

[@JamesSleeman]

At 23:40 (and subsequent) you say you had a resistor between GND and SDA (pulldown), I think you mean between Vcc (or it looks like 3v3 in your case actually) and SDA (pullup), which is what I would have expected. Otherwise, great video I didn't know that Sigrok and Pulseview had gotten so good, I have been resisting buying one of those cheap analyzers because I didn't like the idea of ripping of Salae's software, with Pulseview working so well that makes it nicely legit.

[@iforce2d]

+James Sleeman yes, that's what I meant to say, sorry. It's between 3v3 and SDA. I also forgot to mention basically what your second paragraph says too - it's nicer to have everything open source instead of a sneaky side-stepping of something else.

[@Abdullu]

By now, PulseView seems to support analog channels.... Is it possible to see the live / streaming data of the digital and analog lines?

[@garygrotsky4081]

Great video. Really helped me to get stared with the LHT00SU1. Do you know if there is a users manual for PulseView other then the one page on the sigror web page?

[@iforce2d]

Not that I know of.

[@hiker123]

Nice Video. For I2C to work both clock and data lines need to be tied to VCC. When a device on the I2C bus wants to communicate it pulls the lines low, this is the way they "talk". So if you don't pull the data line (SDA) and Clock (SCL) High, they can't communicate. That's why you needed the pull-up resistor. Tried the Android version today, unfortunately its still not working :-(

[@ianknight4013]

Big thanks for the video i'll be getting an analyzer ASAP as going to be really useful for debugging the serial protocols. BTW I guess one of the other posts picked this up but the little i2c device you had looks like a tri axial accelerometer and not a magnetometer (compass)

[@iforce2d]

If you mean the GY-273 it has a HMC5883L compass on it.

[@ianknight4013]

@@iforce2d yes your right is a compass, when you held it up i just saw the x,y,z and as i have been upto eye in accelerometers for couple of years i clicked into accelerometers mode... I'll be ordering a GY-273 soon.. BTW have you done much testing with the GY-273, just wondering what it reports, North?

[@iforce2d]

lol not that simple I'm afraid. There are 3 sensors, one for each axis, which measure the strength of magnetic field. The strength will be highest when aligned with the magnetic field of earth, and lowest (a negative number) when opposite to the magnetic field of earth. By looking at the minimum and maximum values reported by each axis, you can figure out how the sensor is oriented relative to magnetic north. Then you have to use the magnetic declination of your location to get geographic north. This video covers some of these points: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ona8XpqjqZucoMk If you're using arduino there are some libraries around that will help.

[@markgreco1962]

OK this is working correctly now to test the flight controller for the MSP on the UART. boy you cost me a lot of money (: Love this stuff. THANKS

[@zaidhussain5206]

Thank you so much for sharing this video, I get a lot of information of the video , good luck for you .

[@bernhardfraunhofer4933]

I think it is a very good video, but i have a little problem. i am using ubuntu, pulseview is working, but i have no button next to "run" which is green/yellow with the option timing? i think it is the version 0.2.0 (about).

[@davidkempton2894]

Very nice review. Thanks. I might buy one!!!

[@DieBastler1234]

Thanks for the video :) How do you manage to combine the camera view and the desktop? It seems to me that it's not edited in post lg, couka

[@iforce2d]

+couka I'm recording a screen-grab of my desktop - the camera view is a webcam window made slightly larger than the grab area.

[@drojf]

try using OBS, its a popular screen recording/streaming suite used by gamers

[@PiefacePete46]

Beyond my comprehension level, but I thoroughly enjoyed it anyway. Something to work towards? Thanks.

[@AfdhalAtiffTan]

Has anyone got the analogue input working?

[@itmemo8617]

thank you this video made my day !

[@qzorn4440]

very nice video... i think this software can run on the raspberry pi, if it can that would make a nice compact tester with a little touch-screen? ... thanks...:)

[@drwhonemo]

same as 12 hundred and so on....you certainly know to look crazy!

[@skilledhiko329]

HI this can help to find out the faulty ic? how this can be done! thanks in advance.

[@Новости-з3й]

This is called "hardware buffering" ! That's why the output goes down quite rapidly and not at the end of the transmission.

[@mauritzg1]

Hi iforce2d. I have a LHT00SU1 but can't get Sigrok pulseview to connect to the device. The USBee AX does work on the device. Do you know what to do to make it connect? Different driver?

[@pauloe8pck830]

If you are using a USB extender try connecting directly to the PC. Just a thought.

[@Usuaurio-kj1ym]

Hello thanks , but i have error installing on windows 10 64bit (error 0xc00000b7) any?

[@EpicHardware]

2:26 "please do not upgrade your self" XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[@Hexor1211]

I can't find information about sampling frequency for digital (logic) inputs. What is maximum sampling frequency for logic inputs? 24 MHz?

[@iforce2d]

According to the product page, it says 16MHz. Using this Pulseview software on Linux though, 4MHz is the most I can get it to do. Anything higher than that and it stops responding and I need to unplug it and plug in again.

[@avejst]

Thanks for sharing 😀👍

[@alanpowell328]

Chris, I can't find the LHT00SU1 in the list of compatible Logic Analysers in the Sigrok project, possibly because it's a clone. What does your setup think your analyser is? Cheers Mate Alan

[@iforce2d]

It's "CWAV USBee AX" as shown at 19:20

[@alanpowell328]

Thanks, I missed that.

[@makshay157]

Does it give live data inputs? Thanks is advance

[@ismzaxxon]

Just ordered one via your link. Make surecyou get a royalty point. Thanks for info.

[@iforce2d]

thanks man!

[@slap_my_hand]

Does the software work woth multiple logic analyzers at the same time?

[@codejunkes4607]

USBee ax pro is cheaper ($10) and also has 24MHz sampling rate, where this one is 16Mhz sampling rate. I bought this one but other people who want cheap logic analyser can check this out.

[@jameslamb4573]

I don't think the USBee AX has analogue inputs which may be why you can't read anything on ACH1 and ACH2.

[@paulk9532]

The product listing on BangGood claims 2 analog channels at -10 - 10v. This matches the specs of the legit USBee AX (www.ee101.com/axmanual.pdf). USBee went out of business and was acquired, so all that's available now are clones.

[@martinlorenrd4073]

The ARMFLY AX-Pro has it (1 ADC, and a pin to select between channel 1 and 2). See my video above...

[@PeterScargill]

You really SHOULD have the resistor for clock as well as data

[@antipaladinify]

Hi How can i use the analog part of the LHT00SU1?

[@slap_my_hand]

antipaladinify It isn't supported yet.

[@martinlorenrd4073]

If you have this device we can run some test. Write me at [e-mail]

[@Popart-xh2fd]

Does it does Capture Trigger (Single Shot)?

[@iforce2d]

Not that I know of. Never looked for that feature though...

[@aaron41]

SDA pulldown is according to standard I believe..

[@6pfk]

could apt install? or appimage on ubuntu?

[@iforce2d]

www.howtoinstall.me/ubuntu/18-04/pulseview/

[@KJ7JHN]

This is perfect!

[@leighrobinson]

Is your particular clone hardware compatible with the "new" Saleae software - it seems to be fully cross platform: support.saleae.com/hc/en-us/articles/201589175. Though it still seems to be missing the ability to trigger on decoded values, which is a bit of a shame (their workaround suggests grabbing a pile of data and using excel to search... /sigh).

[@iforce2d]

+Leigh Robinson I don't know - I noticed that, but there is no easily installable for Fedora.

[@michaelumenyi6907]

Great video! :D

[@expansiongames]

on my nvidia shield it also crashes

[@brycedavey1252]

that's s must have :) thanks

[@espenbgh2540]

Will it run on on a Windows 7 too

[@iforce2d]

sigrok.org/wiki/Main_Page

[@wafflecat8]

what computer are you using?

[@iforce2d]

+Xian Yao Ng fedora linux

[@wafflecat8]

+iforce2d On a desktop?

[@iforce2d]

+Xian Yao Ng yes

[@wafflecat8]

***** Sorry for being pedantic, but what kind? Also, do you use a laptop with linux?

[@wafflecat8]

***** Love your videos btw!

[@bucheronix]

"To brush the cobwebs off my WIndows laptop". En français: Enlever les fils d'araignées de la fenêtre. Autrement dit, changer de système d'exploitation.

[@AndreasSpiess]

Very nice video! Just pay attention to openly breach the law on youtube. If you install Saleae SW you had to accept to use it only with their devices!

[@heikosoeder]

Für Saleae die beste Werbung. Und Pulseview ist Opensource!

[@m4l490n]

Does it work @ 24 MHz?

[@nyeleskettes]

Have you tried to use it with Salea? This device seems to be a clone of USBee (or some similar brand), but reportedly could also work with Salea, you only need to reprogram the eeprom. The reason I'm asking because I'm using salea with a dummer device and the software is pretty awesome (in terms of features, reliability and performance), far by the best among the softwares you can find on the internet. how to modify it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pH3KeJmIfMiBic0 www.jwandrews.co.uk/2011/12/saleae-logic-analyser-clone-teardown-and-reprogramming/ (at the bottom "Cloning Other Devices")

[@iforce2d]

Yes I tried Saleae but iirc it was Windows only, which for me takes it out of consideration for any application where a good alternative exists on Linux.

[@nyeleskettes]

Thanks. I meant if you tried this specific device with the salea interface (afaik they ship it as a usbee clone that has a different id, just like described in the urls above).

[@iforce2d]

Yes, I used it with this device. iirc I had to open it and move a jumper inside.

[@vanlaser5385]

There is a Linux version, e.g. for Arch Linux: aur.archlinux.org/packages/saleae-logic/

[@hanskolkman]

Many USB issues ! Stopped using it.

[@igrewold]

try the approach down there: sigrok.org/wiki/FAQ

[@slap_my_hand]

Another reason to hate IOS.

[@eglintonflats]

When you said that you just heard about logic analyzers and that you use Aplle, I rolled my eys and stopped watching this video

[@iforce2d]

Were you born knowing about logic analyzers? Cool! I don't use Aplle, or Apple either if that's what you meant. Where did I say that?