Checking out the 2023 Orbea Rise M20 with the new EP8 RS motor and 540Wh battery + E-Tube app

[@EMTBVideos]

The bike I tested is a Rise M20 with the 540 Wh battery, that explains the relatively high weight of 19.5 kg. The bike comes standard with a 360 Wh battery and weight should be about 18.6 kg.

[@PaulH2B]

Thank you for this shared information, very interesting and also strange. We will see in the next few months how this rattle will be in other bike's.

[@HarryKuloh]

Thank you for putting out info. Suggestion, if it is feasible: Future videos might be understandable if you use a clip on/wireless microphone. Current video cannot hear any speech

[@EMTBVideos]

Yeah, sorry about that, forgot the lav mic in this vid. Normally I use one.

[@lozetchells9164]

That garmin mount at the top of the stem is a great idea. Perfect for lights and GoPro. The bike (in the UK at least) seems awfully expensive for the spec, though.

[@vidibites]

What pedals do you have here, it matches the frame colour nicely.

[@TeamCykelhold]

interesting. does this mean that it is not possible to upgrade a current EP8 motor to a 801 i wonder? It's only worth doing if the rattle is gone though, so time will tell I guess.

[@Echoes-]

You can't just change the motor, the EP801 has a different battery system and cables, so you would need to change it all out and depending on your frame it may not even fit either because the shape of the motor is a bit different.

[@joachim73]

What pedals are those ? Can't decide if I want to go oil slick with this bike but I have to decide fast I'll get my rise newt week !

[@teabagNBG]

im getting this bike... first thing i do is remove the restriction... 85nm all the way :D

[@ambonirider]

My new rise m10 2023 does not rattle downhill!! Or at least i can't ear it.

[@pearsth]

What pedals do you have on there?

[@koslan2646]

Hei. I am thinking of buying a rise m20 or a h30. Will you recommend this bike? I have only had experience with the cube stereo hybrid hpc tm 140 from before.

[@EMTBVideos]

I've enjoyed riding those. It's not the most stable/capable going down hill at speed. These are light bikes with good good motor performance that are fun and inspiring for "normal" trail riding. And it seems they're nicely discounted these days.

[@koslan2646]

ok. thank you. would you recommend m20 2023 with 540wh or 2022 h15 if they are at a similar price?

[@EMTBVideos]

@@koslan2646 I would probably go M20 because of the motor. The 2022 H15 has the older Shimano EP800 while the 2023 M20 has the EP801, according to the specs. But you do get nicer suspension on the H15.

[@koslan2646]

yes exactly. I think I will go for the 2023 m20 .

[@felicetanka]

Maybe the wheel is not fastened to the frame, fork properly. Thx

[@magicsork657]

have you tried to connect stunlocker to the new Ep801? does it works? i am curious to know it because i would like to use the features of the app. thanks

[@EMTBVideos]

Unfortunately, I haven't tested

[@Gerald-iz7mv]

how is the 2021 orbea rise m20 motor rattle?

[@EMTBVideos]

Previous model years all got the first gen EP8, the EP800. That motor will rattle when costing over uneven surfaces. Some accept it and enjoy the bike, some really dislikes the noise.

[@OceansideCreations]

It sounds like this rattling issue has more to with cranks than motor. Please advise

[@EMTBVideos]

Yeah, the crank arms can play a part. But the noise is emitted from the motor. It comes from the motor internals hitting each other. Some have done a hack with some sort of rubber band around the crank axle, between the crank arms and motor house. I haven't tested it myself but I guess this ads friction to the system and reduces the forces causing the rattle.

[@kemp990]

I know Orbea hasn't been honest with the bike's weight...but it is shocking to know M20 Large with 360wh battery weigh 19.5kg...is it with tubes? right?

[@EMTBVideos]

Yeah, that was a bit surprising. I just found a random weight at the store I visited, but I guess it can't be too far off. Weight includes tubes.

[@timgearing5121]

You’ll be looking forward to the snow clearing for the ultimate side by side test ride. So will all of your followers

[@EMTBVideos]

Yeah, enough snow now (: I expect there will be other reviews and comparisons out by the time spring arrives here though.

[@timgearing5121]

@@EMTBVideos Maybe, but your reviews tell the whole story, good and not so good.

[@ambonirider]

Weight with 540W battery 150x36 fork 203 front and rear complete with pedal 19.7Kg

[@magicsork657]

Size?

[@magicsork657]

Color?

[@ambonirider]

@@magicsork657 Black carbon M

[@magicsork657]

Ordered same m-team customized as Ltd model for fork/suspension tyre saddle cassette. Considering your weight i am expexting 18.3 kg with pedals

[@cybermonk8580]

What size was this one tested?

[@EMTBVideos]

Medium, didn't feel that small for me at 181/5'11

[@magicsork657]

i need to take decision about the for 140 or 150 on my orbea rise m-team 23...is the 140 too soft for trail and all montain? i am not interested to enduro ride

[@EMTBVideos]

I like the more rugged forks on the 150 mm travel versions. But! I like the balance and feel of the bike with a 140 mm fork. I really should compare them more to be sure, but my impression is the 140 mm version has a nice planted feel, great for all mountain style riding. But the skinnier stanction diameter makes the 140 mm fork a bit less precise and composed on rougher trails.

[@magicsork657]

19.5 with 540 battery? Size?

[@EMTBVideos]

Size L. I weighed it with the 360 Wh battery, that's the default for all 2023 carbon Rise models. You can specify the 540 Wh battery when ordering the bike, but it ads about 800g I think.

[@magicsork657]

@@EMTBVideos it seems to me heavy considering 360wh ...are these new orbea rise 2023 heavier compare to the 2022 same model? i wondering if the M20 22 is lighter? anyhow compliments for all info you give us! thanks

[@Vempire123]

@@magicsork657 rs801 is 100g heavier.

[@magicsork657]

@@Vempire123 2022 size L M20 was 18.6...here we are 900 grammi above! not just 100

[@magicsork657]

i guess spec has gone down!

[@magicsork657]

rattle or not rattle big dilema🙂

[@professorhastig]

please get a decent microphone. the sound is really bad.

[@EMTBVideos]

I'm using a decent Rode lav mic in this video. But there was something wrong somewhere between the mic and recorder. Sound was useless so I had to go with the in-camera mic :/ Just bought a Zoom F2 recorder on sale!