Checking Out The Sapphire Radeon RX 7600XT On Linux!

[@Drkayb]

Thumbs up for the non-music approach. Very avant garde.

[@zepesh]

I used Earth Bound as BGM

[@seanunderscorepry]

I love the upbeat tune they use for new product reviews. Makes me want to go out and consume goods!

[@majorgnu]

It had a welcome sense of serenity to it

[@afuzzyriff]

I still heard the little horn song in my head

[@JohnnyElihue]

Gaming on Linux has gotten so good, so quickly, thanks to Valve and AMD. I've been daily driving linux (fedora 38/39) for the last year and a half and I'm never going back to Windows. It's so nice, my computer feels like mine again. No more Windows trying to force me to use my computer a certain way, or advertise to me, or try and force a new "feature" on me.

[@benjaminoechsli1941]

Windows 10 has forced me to do a clean install three times in the past four years because an update borks something (the latest glitch killed my ability to update Windows; I felt nothing of value was lost). This is not how you get me to switch to 11, Microsoft. This is how you get me to don a tux. 🐧

[@MSquared135]

Same boat here since mid-2018 with Arch. A lot of growing pains at first with the transition but those problems encountered help strengthen one as a user over time. Windows who?

[@nathanl2966]

Many people walked so Valve could run, remember that.

[@xomm]

Agreed, I've been dual booting Windows and Nobara for a few months and I've only booted up Windows a handful of times at this point for things that I haven't gotten working yet on Wine/Proton.

[@L1vv4n]

I'm testing linux on a laptop for three months. I'm still not sure which DE and distribution I will use in the long run, but I'm pretty sure that I'm going move my desktop to linux once I upgrade gpu to something from AMD. Laptop will return to w10 though after I will move the desktop. Optimis experience (thanks to nvidia) on linux is... irritating, let's say.

[@fedora]

We're glad that Fedora 39 has been solid with your experience! AMD + upstream Linux has always been a great combo 💙

[@ailuros_]

6:55 loved the Nvidia vs AMD comparation on linux. There is almost no video out there doing that. Great job!

[@awetaiwan]

yarrr, good to see what the hardware alliances are; who is stuck and love to suck in the matrix who is free of body mynde an spirit..

[@dmoneyballa]

direct ml on windows for me has been so much slower than running ROCm. Glad to see ROCm support on day 1. good on AMD

[@BrokenKanuck]

Running the 6700XT on Arch KDE and it’s flawless. Absolutely stunning card.

[@hahamanin]

do you recommend 6750xt or this 7600xt 16gb as the price is the exact same here in my country.. Which is more future proof according to you?

[@TLegend77]

@@hahamanin i would say go with 7600XT. i have sapphire pure 7800xt and i am more than happy.

[@Lua64]

Hope you didn't make your purchase already, but 6750 XT all day long.@@hahamanin

[@harryniedecken5321]

Thank you for your long term support of Linux

[@Yavoreks]

Thanks for the review and insight! Hope you get to enjoy some well earned chillaxation time after all this work. Thanks again have a great day you and the crew

[@electromigue]

The VRAM was probably because of how useful it can be for generative AI workflows. I'm glad they added it!

[@andrew_hd]

100%

[@bleack8701]

but it's AMD so..are you really doing that?

[@nathanl2966]

@@bleack8701 Yes.

[@electromigue]

@@nathanl2966 OpenGL is an option besides CUDA.

[@andersjjensen]

8GB even on 1080p is becoming a problem real fast, and we're starting to see the first instances where 12GB for 1440p is becoming an issue too. The only "problem" for the 7600XT is the 6700XT at the same price. 12GB will be good for 1080p for a good long while, and it is still 10% faster, so I'd go with that. But once the remaining RDNA2 stock is gone AMD won't have a cheap more-than-8GB option.

[@tristianyamaty]

Amen for all the display ports. Would very much like 4x DP rather than 2x DP and 2x HDMI.

[@PainterVierax]

yeah I don't understand why they keep providing 2 HDMI when Display Port allows to use HDMI/DVI passive adapters with the Dual Mode feature. Keeping a single HDMI 2.0 or a USB-C could be useful for modern TVs but the rest should be DP.

[@RamonInNZ]

Just bought this card then saw that you have this video out, as I run Linux and Windows (for one game only) looking to upgrade my RTX2060 6GB. Bought it for exactly what you said, greater than 6GB or 8GB cards - have noticed a difference with DayZ at 1080p and going from medium/low to high/medium with 120 to 144fps (max for my monitor).

[@caspersmith7112]

im running 9th gen intel i5 with the 6500xt "Remake" with 8 Gb ram just to get lite gaming on cheap to toss in something else when i build new system its only 4 lanes!!!! thought ahead little bit 200 on card its new warranty made happy for time..(referring to 8 lane 16Gb comment) This is why i watch you Wendel you always find those out the way things that are cool and fun and i can try it out with cheaper parts because your always comparing and have a reference card to name.. always ALL the info. The you GOD-MODE Wendel

[@SirRFI]

Is RDNA3's AV1 hardware encoding/transcoding available on Linux? Including FOSS CLI software.

[@leucome]

Short answer yes, Long answer, hardware support with vaapi AV1 h.264 and h.265 is easier to get working than AMD AMF-AV1. AMF need AMD vulkan too so with the open source Mesa driver it mean having two Vulkan driver at once. It works but app need an environment variable to tel what driver to use. So personally I stick with vaapi hardware AV1. If you wonder what it looks like, my video where I try playing Minecraft with an AI telling me what to do. It was recorded at low bitrate with Vaapi-AV1 on the GPU.

[@Lichshield]

what a nice review. Thanks!

[@ShinyHelmet]

Got hold of the ASUS version of this card (7600 XT) for an excellent price. It only uses one 8pin pci-e connector, which is great for those people (like me) who don't have dual 8pin pci-e connectors from their psu's. I could never fathom why a 190W card needed two 8pin connectors anyway, so it's good to have a manufacturer (ASUS) who realises it's perfectly fine to use just one 8pin connector. Plugged it into my OpenSuse Tumbleweed box and it was all good to go.

[@MemeScreen]

Cover an Intel GPU on here? How are their drivers and features working on Linux?

[@gregorydayton5428]

Great Video, I may get a RX7600XT. Thank You!

[@mytech6779]

I still find AMD's management of their GPU division rather poor. Most visible in how they handle the gpgpu side of things and extremely fragile "pro" drivers for Linux. I don't mean their tech is bad, but the way they manage support is lacking to put it mildly. I mean why doesn't Debian have first class support when Debian is both an upstream AND has a whole team working to debug hip-rocm on linux? Why doesn't AMD have a viable hip-rocm product compatibility list? (They finally made an extremely truncated list in the last few months but it's wildly incomplete.) Why do they actively hide older versions of software and firmware that may be needed for older (really modest age) hardware and operating systems?

[@PainterVierax]

TBF it was already a huge improvement when they stopped breaking the backward compatibility of ROCm without warning software devs. Few years ago I remember DV Resolve and Blender users had to manually downgrade their Pro driver to fix their toolchain until the software were patched.

[@CMDRSweeper]

I really really hate this 8x PCI-E trend they got going on. You are just so screwed if you are at a lower PCI-E gen, and I am not about to think of forking out for a new machine with sufficient amount of PCI-E lanes (Above 16-20) as they cost hell of a lot of money at the moment. Give us PCI-E 3.0 x16 instead, rather than force us at PCI-E 3.0 x8

[@skilletpan5674]

Yeah you need threadripper or maybe Intel(?) If you want that. It was extremely disappointing that x670e has only one electrical 16x lane slot. Even the b650 boards didn't seem to have 2 16x slots. I want 2 because I have an old 16 port raid card.

[@Fractal_32]

8:22 Of course Sapphire does another pro-consumer thing for their customers. I know I’m a little bit of a Sapphire fanboy but that’s only because their history of giving their customers more in terms of performance and software.

[@ScottTempler]

have you checked out Nobara? Glorious Egg Roll's Dad distribution. With KDE Plasma 6 coming out supporting HDR.... 😁👍. Great time to be a Linux gamer. RedHat Workstation 4 was lucky enough to play the Shareware version of Doom and 3DFX Voodoo GPU. Total Amaze-ballz

[@benjamingittins2174]

We really need 96 GB GPU with a reasonable data bus so that we can run the full 80B AI models. I don't care if its "a little too slow", its way more accessible then trying to use your CPU to do it. At 8GB for 50 USD, add the 600 USD to the card and give us something half decent to play with functional LLM.

[@cem_kaya]

i hope Amd will have the same level of support as Nvidia when it comes to wsl some day.

[@Prophes0r]

SR-IOV? I still want to play with VDI in my lab, and since the A770 mod talk has gone dark...

[@chromerims]

6:16 -- 120 hz oled TVs . . . color me informed. Gonna check that out.

[@z0r0sDemise]

Using the 7800xt on nobara is unreal!

[@greevar]

I'd love to upgrade. My RX 5700 is defective, which I didn't find out until after the warranty ran out. It has the hard crash issue. I can manage to minimize it by lowering the power cap, but it still crashed once since I made that change.

[@leucome]

I am pretty sure a lot of people did not RMA defective RX 5700 because they thought it was a driver issue. RMA on 5700xt back then were half the RMA of the 2080. It was abnormally low return rate for a GPU that so many people complained about.

[@Chris2000SP]

I am using GPT4all and Stable-Diffusion-XL under Linux. And the buffer overruns are fixed. I have no Crashes anymore.

[@linuxnext]

linux gaming on amd is awesome :)

[@praecorloth]

I've been running ATI/AMD only ever since Nvidia killed off 3dfx. God my back hurts. :D

[@hgmyyt]

16gb is interesting. I wonder if we can do gpu partitioning for virtual machines

[@intermarer9145]

6:10 "HDMI ports included because people run 120hz OLED tv's" - since you made no mention of it, does HDMI 2.1 work on AMD cards in linux now??? Can you run 4k@120 now? This is such a dealbreaker that is easy to miss. It should be heavily emphasized.

[@MikeDawson1]

at 2:39 I see you struggling to grab the corner of the window to expand it; does PopOS not allow meta/alt + right mouse to resize it like the other DEs?

[@babajaiy8246]

Gaming software isn't the only one that uses VRAM....sim/cgi software can make use of it quit well.

[@EconaelGaming]

Do you get plug and play hardware video acceleration in browsers?

[@hahamanin]

I really want to buy this but ray tracing performance is really bad as in 7-10fps in the starting area on alan wake 2.. Where as the 4060 8gb gives 30fps plus lows 25fps

[@ShinyHelmet]

The 4060 may have better ray tracing, but to me 25-30fps isn't an acceptable level of performance anyway. I'd want a minimum of 60fps to even consider switching on RT.

[@bes12000]

I like Display port my monitor supports it better, Also Linux gaming is great with AMD, even on Arch, my main gripe is devs being unwilling or too lazy to add anticheat support for Linux, with Epics easy anticheat having Linux support already there is literally no excuse... but here we are still a bunch of games with easy anticheat not working correctly on Linux...

[@MegaManNeo]

Is this card a good replacement for the 5700 Pulse tho? VFIO issues are kinda a bummer as I would to tinker with it someday again but right now... no card really seems to be a product worth putting money in as successor.

[@InsaneFirebat]

I'm not buying any graphics card that doesn't have HDMI ports, as in, more than one. It doesn't matter how much better one is over the other. I have 6 monitors in use in the house and none of them support DisplayPort.

[@Stormygewehr]

i get better overclocking on linux with my 6800. 2425 mhz at 195w up from 2230 203w. on windows i could only manage 2375mhz at 198w. gameplay is like butter.

[@builtofire1]

stupid question: is it hard to add 2x M.2 slots to not waste 8 lanes ? 10$ of effort cost

[@jogurtnaturalny]

I might get to my working station

[@vince7949]

Hey! I got a amd rx 7800 xt the memory is heated to 50 celsius in the beginning and psensor says no fans are spinning. Do anybody knows what can be wrong

[@tonytiger6874]

Noob question, but few months ago couldn't get linux to boot on my 7950x. Research it and others said the kernal update from 5.19.0-41 to 5.19.0-46 was the issue. Had no GRUB menu. People suggested because my Nvidia gpu, I'd be able to boot with "nomodeset". Anyone have a similar problem/know if it's been fixed?

[@Ryet9]

...but buut... it's been the year(s) of the GNU/Linux Desktop since 2012 (Windows 8 RTM) 😥

[@majorgnu]

Are you sure you don't mean 2007? (Windows Vista) 😄 First version to integrate DRM into the OS, so the intent to treat their users like helpless human garbage was already on display back then. Windows 7 just put some spit shine on the turd.

[@waterflame321]

Never enough vram for VR titles especially social vr like vrchat

[@thomasjones4131]

is afmf 1 and afmf 2 supported on linux? amd rsr? fsr3.1?

[@progste]

Garuda Linux is a fairly overlooked distro, it even comes in a "gaming" version with a lot of tweaks and useful software out of the box.

[@cem_kaya]

Games like ARK asa use 13 -14GB of Vram in 1440p

[@skilletpan5674]

Also if you have multi monitors you want a little more for them.

[@pnunezaguila]

I'm struggling to make it work under linux mint 21.3. I think Nvidia is way easier to install drivers. I'm not a noob but been using Linux Mint for over 5 years and was used to just plug and click to make any Nvidia card work...

[@ShinyHelmet]

Probably need a newer kernel.

[@pnunezaguila]

@@ShinyHelmet I know but I'm OK waiting until the LM based on Ubuntu 24.04 get released

[@ShinyHelmet]

@@pnunezaguila 24.04 is using kernel 6.8, which is what I have on OpenSuse with my 7600 XT. All seems to work just fine, even got ray tracing available. 👍

[@pnunezaguila]

@@ShinyHelmet That's what I'm waiting for, buy I use Linux Mint and only Linux Mint, so I've decided to wait until LM 22 is released. Anyway, I have 6 PC's at home, I can wait.

[@oplkfdhgk]

sweet!

[@yuan.pingchen3056]

The downside to the RX7600XT is that you'll have to worry about taking advantage of the extra pcie gen4 x8 on the CPU.

[@Lemurion287]

People keep forgetting that there are a lot of monitors out there that don't have Display Port--I don't care how wonderful it is if I can't use it on my monitor.

[@PainterVierax]

There are still a lot of VGA and DVI monitors lying around as well… but the Display Port Dual-Mode feature allows to use HDMI or DVI passive adapters so it's generally a non-issue for them. Though a USB-C Thunderbolt port or a single HDMI 2.0 could be useful for modern TVs.

[@happybreadduck]

Meanwhile Horizon ZERO DAWN on Linux and Steam chugs 14GB VRAM regularly. Its taking all it can. Will never go below 16GB VRAM ever again

[@chraso]

My man forgot the benchmarks!

So I got a 7800xt and the experience is unfortunately atrocious. Did all I could but even scrolling the Arch Wiki is ugly and has a nausea-inducing ugly blur, in games it's even worse. Haven't managed to make any improvements at all.

[@vicmac3513]

Contact LTT and beg them to make Linux daily challenge again with full AMD setup.

[@fracturedlife1393]

Two 8pins, no MPT 😭

I puked a bit, that tragic mouse.

[@richardhunter9779]

Why are you using a Mighty Mouse? Just to suffer?

[@nukedathlonman]

Why would someone want more then 8 lanes... Because they have a 5800X3D on a 300 series mobo? But then again, they likely have a faster previous gen video card which would make this a downgrade. But yes, AMD and Valve have done so much for us Linux gamers.

[@pacifico4999]

You have it right, people on older mobos. I wouldn't assume people have faster GPUs, especially in third world countries.

[@skilletpan5674]

Raid card is why. Cheap mass storage.

[@JPEaglesandKatz]

I am surprised a tech frontrunner like yourself would use (ancient) popOS......