Refiiling the CLI 42 carts the right way!

Refiling the CLI-42 carts the right way!
The refilling of the CANON Pixma PRO-100 CLI-42 Cartridges has to be done CORRECTLY if you expect them to behave and perform as reliably as the Brand New out of the box OEM cartridges.
Failing to do this correctly and you can indeed damage your Print Head so.....
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[@datcravat]

My fingertips are caked in ink right now!! I had a huge smile when you mentioned it at the beginning. Thank you for the vid :)

[@joegardepe73]

Thanks for sharing you knowledge with us. Can't wait to receive my signature inks!

[@cheo1949]

Thanks.

[@grumblekin]

This dude has a real PhD...Printing in High Definition! Subbing to this channel!

[@cheo1949]

Thank you

[@JunkJournalideas]

great ive got everything ready to go, i have been worried and probably for no reason lol cheers Donna

[@bgm-1961]

Joe, I'm back again! I finally was able to refill a cart BEFORE it ran dry! I listened to you and caught it in time (i.e, after getting the "low ink" warning, but before getting the "ink empty" symbol). My question today concerns resetting the chip in such a situation. Though you don't discuss resetting in this video, I'd thought I'd ask the question here instead instead of one of your older videos due to this video's recency. Up till now, I had only refilled an entire set of cartridges which I had let run dry. Thus I used the resetter to reset those chips. But for this most recent cart, since it had not run dry yet, I experimented by NOT resetting the chip. I simply added ink to the cart and put it back in the printer. TO THE POINT: The Ink Level display properly indicated that cartridge was now full! Again, before refilling, the Ink Level display showed the cart was at "low Ink" (exclamation point symbol and low ink level depicted). Now, WITHOUT RESETTING, it shows the cart is full! MY QUESTION: So we DON'T have to reset the chips if the reservoir doesn't run empty? As I've watched almost all of your refilling videos, this tidbit never registered with me. I simply assumed that you always reset the chip every time you refill. But now, I'm concluding that you only NEED TO RESET when the cart runs empty and/or when you do a flush. Otherwise (i..e, if the reservoir does NOT go empty), then resetting the chip is not required. Is that all true, or is my one-time experience with the cart I just refilled an anomaly? UPDATE! I may've spoke too soon! Several hours after posting the above, upon my next print job, that same cartridge (that I refilled) now shows a low ink warning - the same as it did before I refilled. So I guess even a low ink cartridge has to have its chip reset. Sorry for wasting your time. I'll leave this comment in place in case it provides any educational value. Thanks!

[@cheo1949]

Your story is typical of MANY others who have tried the same attempt to fool the printer. But you cannot fool that printer. It will know what you're trying to do. So always reset every single time whether you're doing a partial refill or not. Always reset your chip to full and then top off the cartridge to full that way they both match.

[@mikemorgan2733]

No ink on your hands?....."Ya you're not refilling enough".....LOL Love your videos Jose......thx

[@Soul_Visuals_Photography]

neat!

[@elroycharlie]

thanks

[@WillRinehart]

Hey there Mr. Jose, terrific information. I have a question. I bought the precision colors kit. I am a bit hesitant about doing the yellow cartridge thing right now. Was thinking about buying an official yellow canon cartridge, and do the refills from precision colors for the rest of them. Then maybe, the next time yellow runs low I will also do the swapover. Should this work out okay?

[@TheRobsterUK]

Hi Jose, I've been watching your videos for a while now and find them really useful. I have a Canon 100s and use refill inks. I was wondering what your advice was on whether or not the ink cartridges should be refilled straight away once they run out or can you leave them for a while, as long as the air-tight clips are attached? When a cart runs out I must admit I tend to replace it with a fresh one and the now-empty cart has the clip attached to it and it's put in a box until I have a few more empty carts, and then I refill them all at once. I wonder however whether having no ink in them is going to cause them to start to dry out and clog? I always make sure the clip is on to protect the outlet for the cart but is leaving them empty for a few weeks harming them? Thanks

[@johnappleyard4123]

The wizard of canon printers.

[@stevemartin1235]

Getting ready to do my first refilling of my cli 42 carts with Precision Color system and new refurbished oem carts. Is it possible to "top off" carts as they get to the halfway point and reset of do they need to be flushed etc. ?

[@gsplemper]

Hi Jose, I have been inspired by your channel and, as I have been worried about the cost of printing (and I do agree with you that if you have a printer you should print and not have the printer as an expensive ornament!), I have saved up a collection of CLI 42 carts to flush and refill. I have always loved the way that you (and other channels) show the remaining ink flushing out to leave a pristine white sponge behind. Sadly, in my case, I have found that in some cases, mainly magenta, cyan and yellow and the photo cyan and magenta, I cannot get rid of all the colour and instead of pristine white I achieve a nice pastel shade of the original colour. I have tried using distilled water instead of tap water, an ammonia based cleaner (Kleen Off - we cannot easily get Windex in the UK) and even the cart rejuvenation mixture you mention in a previous video. All with little effect. In the UK I have spoken to Martin of Octoinkjet who supply custom inks and he has suggested that there may be something in the water that has 'fixed' the colour into the sponge. He could be right, using distilled waters seems to help, and he has suggested that a little remnant of colour in the sponge will not impact on the performance of the cartridge. Do you have any suggestions? Best wishes, George

[@cheo1949]

As long as you have flushed out as much of the original ink you will be fine. The OEM yellow should first be flushed with your ammonia based window cleaner multiple times and then with water. You should have no problems.

[@gsplemper]

@@cheo1949 That's reassuring. Thanks.

[@sirmightymoose]

I use a combination of Windex with Ammonia, Straight Ammonia from Wal-Mart and Isopropyl Alcohol (91%) to get the carts white. Water alone wont do it.

[@gsplemper]

@@sirmightymoose Thanks for the information, in relation to the ammonia, do you know what the strength of the ammonia is? I have been told that Kleen Off is 9.5% ammonia and that makes my eyes water! I'll try it out as soon as I get the chance.

[@gsplemper]

@@thomasallaway9580 Thanks, you are right. I tried to save a bit of money by getting 3 bottles of Kleen Off household ammonia for ~ £8 thinking that it would do the same job. It seems to have turned out to be a false economy!!

[@davidspyres]

Jose, first thank you again for all of your videos and FB Group! My daughter and I... shes my partner in our business, who does 99% of the work :-).... finally decided to get a Pro 100 and these new inks.... ONE problem....he is already sold out! Yes I know it was a limited run so bad on me to procrastinate.....but in your video, text, you wrote he would have bulk ink ready this week, assuming the new formula??? I am ordering a set or two of premodified carts from one of your viewers @Rick Johnson, so I don't need the carts FROM PC, just the ink and resetter. Did I read your message right in that he would have the newly formulated INKS at least for sale this week? Or do we really have to wait until the end of summer?? Or was that for having to wait for the end of summer for the special with the ink, carts, etc??? Anyway, daughter and I are VERY excited to see what we can create, print, sell and give away with the Pro 100 and that signature ink!! David and Heather

[@donsmith2833]

I am a technical guy, IT for years, I used to tear down and repair all sorts of things, but this seems too much effort. I appreciate seeing it done, but it is just too hard.

[@rickpetersen2550]

Thanks for your guidance - I'm still a new to my Pro-100 printer. I have one cart that gave out this morning and plan to order from Precision Colors. Does the whole set of cartridges need to be replaced when switching from OEM to the new Precision Colors ink?

[@cheo1949]

One at a time is fine BUT yellow requires a pre modified and fully flushed cart. Due to third party ink adverse reactions with OEM Yellow ink.

[@stephenpolevoy6917]

Hi Jose Just got the new Signature inks, I am about to try to fill my cartridges, saw your latest video on how to fill the VLI-42 carts, and you described that you were using a 4" needle to take the ink out of the bottle, and wanted to know if you used a different needle for each colour ink? Look forward to your reply as I do have to od=rder needles before I start to fill, and I am also a little fearful that I just may not do it right! Stephen

[@cheo1949]

I washed the needles and syringe each time. But I normally use squeeze bottles loaded with the inks and the bottle caps house their own needles. I just did it the most common way on the video as most folks do not access to squeeze bottles for their ink refilling.

[@PatrickJerome]

Thank you but I was also interested on how to refill the alrdy used up cartridge when the ink is empty.

[@cheo1949]

The same way. Hopefully the sponge will absorb ink. There is no real workaround. Once you mod the carts you must always reset and refill at or before the low warning. Remember. We are NOT suppose to do this and the fact we can get away with it is good enough. You will never be able to provide the optimal ink delivery that an untampered cart can. So be aware of that. The second you mod the cart it's downhill from there.

[@SteelBustingBiker]

Hey Ru'ko, just dropping by check'n your KZbin site.

[@cheo1949]

Hope you enjoyed the visit.

[@sirmightymoose]

Jose, in the past you have always given 13.6 grams as the standard. As one who has flushed and dried hundreds of carts, let me say that my procedure is to dry until they don't go down at all for three days in a row. This can occasionally get down to either 13.5 OR 13.6 grams and can take 5-10 days depending on whether or not I have a fan blowing down upon them. I just wanted to mention that SOME carts will not get down to 13.5. It's just the nature of the sponges in the cart. Hope this clarification helps people.

[@cheo1949]

You are right. The variant seems to be the actual sponge as they do probably differ slightly in weight. I had a couple at 13.6 and the rest made it to 13.5 grams.

[@stephenpolevoy6917]

Hi Rick I have heard that you sell flushed carts for the Pro-100, CLI-42. How can I get in touch with you? Steve

[@sirmightymoose]

I sell on e bay do a search on cli-42 empty - I have sets for $60.00

[@sirmightymoose]

Steve - email me at [e-mail] - I'll send you links.

[@hiddencharges]

Mr. Jose I need ink and blank cartridges for Canon Pro 100. Do you have them for sale?

[@Eli-lb1lc]

Do you know when the bulk inks will be available? Will I be able to refill my previous carts that contain the past inks? Or will they need to be flushed? Thanks Jose!

[@cheo1949]

They are due to arrive on Wednesday and he will then spend several days bottling and labeling. He will close down during that period. Just keep checking the site for updates.

[@adrielcabrera1993]

Esos cartuchos rellenables funcionan en una canon pixma pro 200??? No dañan el cabezal com el tiempo?, igual tengo los cartuchos originales he visto que los rellenan, podría rellenarlos?, espero su respuesta

[@seamydobbsno1]

Hi Jose. Have you done a video comparimg the runnimg costs of the pro 1000 v the pro 10s. Granted the intitial outlay of the pro 1000 is significantly higher but with the extra and larger cartridges would the cost per print be more economical than the pro 10?

[@cheo1949]

I have not and likely will not. TOO many variables involved. But I'll just say that overall the 1000 will cost more to operate. Unless you print will it multiple th.es every day so you are using that expensive ink to produce lots of prints you would possibly sell. The 1000 is not for the home hobbyist.

[@seamydobbsno1]

Thank you for the reply Jose.

[@fymz89]

They no longer sell the cl - 42 they have the third party one do you recommend them?

[@ejcsds]

Do bulk inks that have been sitting need to me stirred or remixed? DO the settle?

[@cheo1949]

Pigment yes, dye no. This one is dye

[@Neuromantic_86]

Hello Jose, I'm wanting to start refilling my carts but Precision Colours does not post to the UK I was really hoping they would since they come highly recommended by you, I'm at a loss as what to do now, do you know of any good companies in Europe that I can use instead? Many thanks.

[@cheo1949]

www.ocotink.co.uk

[@philippesteindl3356]

How often can you wash a cartridge? Hard water might leave lime or whatever in the foam?

[@cheo1949]

When ever ink flow begins to be reduced. Use Distilled water.\ if you are worried but the truth is no one does even the professionals who sell refurbished carts.

[@bgm-1961]

Joe, I'm just getting into refilling... received my PC SE kit a few days ago for my Canon Pro 100... but am confused by one aspect, which is the need to flush the OEM ink prior to initial refill. I'm not including the yellow cartridges in this question, or course. So for all *other* colors, is it necessary to flush the OEM cartridge before refilling with the PC ink? I'm confused because I've seen you take two different positions on this! In this and other videos, you advocate for always flushing the OEM cartridge before the initial refilling. Yet in written responses to online questions, and in other places, I've seen you say that it's OK to mix the PC ink with the OEM ink, indicating that an initial flush is NOT required. (Again, yellow is an entirely different matter). So is it OK for the initial PC ink refill to go directly into an OEM cartridge that still has OEM ink in the non-sponge side? Or must they always be flushed first? Thanks!

[@cheo1949]

You will not see any difference in output. Maybe with other Inks but not Signature Edition. So....flushing is up to you but remember that the process rakes several days so you better have replacements carts as you can not have a printhead position without a cart installed for kore than a few minutes. So to answer your question, you can mod, rest and refill your original carts without flushing them. Except the yellow of course. You should buy a full set of modded and flushed carts from Rick Johnson EBAY store. And that will solve everything. Link is on the descriptions.

[@bgm-1961]

Joe, thanks for the phenomenally quick reply! I actually found the answer to my question about a half hour ago, in another one of your videos (kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHKyZq2coL9_kKc). You essentially said the same thing in that video as you wrote above. So thanks for the confirmation. I think I know why you advocated for flushing, in this video... that is for discriminating users who want to know for sure that all the ink in their printer is after-market, instead of waiting for cartridges that started with OEM ink to cycle through 2 or 3 refills. But if that matter isn't a concern, then it's perfectly fine to do the initial refill with OEM ink already in the cartridge. OK, that's a huge time saver. I'm not worried about flushing my own cartridges, but it's nice to know that I don't have to, only to avoid the time it'd take to do so. And I do have a second set of cartridges... before discovering Precision Colors and your channel, I had already bought a 2nd 8-pack of Canon ink. Luckily I didn't throw away any of the originals as I suspected I would be refilling them someday! So in the end, the only cartridge I expect to have to flush is one of the original Canon Yellow cartridges. That works for me! Thanks again!

[@culttree-records2184]

Hello again Mr. Rodriguez. Again a question I would like to ask related to the refilling topic. As I am located in Germany, could you please give me an inside where to buy ink and items which I would need to save costs. Are there deals right now which you aware of? Any suggestions what and where to look for. When I tried to research with Mama Google it was quite overwhelming and confusing the same time. So I thought I ask you, as you are experienced a lot in that topic. Thank you again and hope to hear from you soon. Take care and best wishes, Richard 🙏

[@cheo1949]

I am only familiar with octoink.co.uk. Also try OCP. as it is based in Germany.

[@culttree-records2184]

@@cheo1949 Thank you for your kind information. 🙏

[@duncansarmy]

Question; what is to stop you from just flipping the lid and ensuring the carts stay filled to the brim at all time? Thus negating the need to flush/reset etc?

[@cheo1949]

If only that worked. What makes you think your chips would go along with that approach? Chips are not linked at all with the actual cartridge. They communicate with the printer not the cart.

[@duncansarmy]

Jose Rodriguez have you tried though? I was under the impression the ink levels were just based on light refraction? If they were kept full the chip may not need resetting 🤷🏼‍♂️ Just thinking out loud but would be interested to know what actually happens

[@cheo1949]

@@duncansarmy no the ink levels are controlled by the chip. The optical prism comes into play as a back up to insure the low?warning meaning the?liquid chamber is now nearing empty is synchronized to what the chip thinks. And no you can not fool it by continually topping off the cartridge. Trust me we've thoroughly tested this years ago when we didn't have a chip resetter for it. No dice.

[@scottrogers2831]

I have been an OctoInk user for two years, but I decided to give PC inks a try. So I just received my first batch of PC inks one week ago. Eight 4oz bottles. Is it safe to say that I received the less desirable yellow and black inks? Or is the entire set I just received an old formula? Thank you.

[@cheo1949]

If it says PC42 It's the current inks. If it says PCSE42 then it's the new ones. But these inks are only shipping with the complete Limited Edition Refill kits which include a set of real cli42 flushed carts. So your are likely the current ones which are still very good.

[@cheo1949]

By the way it's not just the yellow and black that were updated. All 8 colors were.

[@scottrogers2831]

That is disappointing. I made the purchase very recently in order to do a round of longevity tests. I am just finishing a “year long” trial testing OEM vs OctoInk. The program I am presently conducting includes test prints using 5 different brands of clear spray as well as prints that are uncoated. My results will be available in a July 2019. My recent order in PC inks will be disposed of at my expense.

[@johncioffalojr7040]

I am just getting into this. I flushed my after market cartridges and i cannot get them as clean as yours. they appear to still have a lot of ink in them. Flushing with 10 parts distilled water, 2 parts alcohol and 1 part ammonia. they are not even coming close white

[@cheo1949]

The truth is they do not need to perfectly white.

[@cayetanokoala]

are these carts the same for the Pro 10? can those also be refilled?

[@cheo1949]

If you mean are CLI42 and PGI72 the same? No. Totally different design. The CLI42 needs to be modified to be refilled. PGI72 can be refilled without any modification. Both require a specific chip resetter.

[@gudda2x201]

What do i do when i run out of ink? I refilled while in the machine but still say low ink

[@cheo1949]

You need to reset the chip.

[@Jugi_boy]

Do I reset the chips every time I refill the cartridges?

[@cheo1949]

Of course! Wouldn't you want your ink ;levels to be correctly displayed?

[@ajaybantawa25]

Sir I am unable to buy Refill kit along with re chip setter in India even online(Cannon Pro-100). Could you me out?

[@cheo1949]

What could I possibly do? I do not sell anything like that.

[@ajaybantawa25]

Well I was wondering if I transfer the amount cost to buy refill kit to your account and then if you ship it to me...? Anyway I managed to get it from OctoInkjet which is UK based supplier. Hope it turns out good. Again Thanks for your very helpful video. Keep going.

[@Kevin_Barr]

Ordered my kit before I ordered the printer. LOL

[@cheo1949]

That's ok.

[@Kevin_Barr]

Jose Rodriguez Do the carts have to be cleaned and dried every time they are refilled?

[@cheo1949]

No. I only flush empties I am given or buy if they are dried. The follow must be flushed. Watch my video I jus posted last week on the yellow one cart issue.

[@sirmightymoose]

I'll help out Jose. No. This is only to flush out the original oem ink. Once this is done, refill after resetting - no need to flush anymore.

[@SunMaximus]

Another great video!!! Really enjoy watching these!!! You should have the audience send in pictures of ink hands and have a best of contest! jk:-)

[@cheo1949]

Now that would be different.

[@danielroman4612]

HOLO JOSE TENGO UNA CANON PRO 100 Y SOLO ME IMPRIME UNA PULGADA DE CADA DOCUMENTO HACE UN CLIK Y SE DETIENE LA IMPRESION ESPERO PUEDAS AYUDARME.

[@rainzkie24]

Can i buy ink from you?

[@cheo1949]

No. I do not sell ink.

[@chrisfilichia1203]

I can sell you true canon ink in the 700 ml cartridge size for $225 each. Jose linked my website above www.premiuminks.bigcartel.com

[@billkaroly]

I hate using gloves. .

[@cheo1949]

They are awkward but you'll have clean hands. Though I prefer ink stains on them. Labels me as a true refiller.