Bobby Fischer's Shocking Treatment of Russian GM's Exposed!

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@frankg.39
@frankg.39 4 ай бұрын
I like that you go over all the possible lines and strategies and not just follow the game. Very interesting.
@PeterJFin
@PeterJFin 10 ай бұрын
When I studied Fischer's games as a teenager, I was always struck by how simple he made chess appear. Truly a superb talent. Thanks for sharing.
@jackmclaughlin9161
@jackmclaughlin9161 10 ай бұрын
Yes and Capa even made it look simpler.
@arthurpewtey
@arthurpewtey 10 ай бұрын
Agreed - it always seemed to me like he was one move ahead of the game. Only one move ahead, but that was usually enough. This game is a fine example of that, but there are many more.
@beavercreekmhp1744
@beavercreekmhp1744 10 ай бұрын
My buddy Mike was living with my family at that time. We would set up the board and study the newspaper and recreate those games. Like you said the games seemed simple yet so lethal. We went through a lot of famous games and would throw our hands up and scream when a queen was sacrificed. It seemed absolutely wild.
@f0urstr1ng
@f0urstr1ng 9 ай бұрын
Also exactly how I feel about Morphy.
@DexterHaven
@DexterHaven 9 ай бұрын
And Morphy and Alekhine made chess look harder to me. I could rarely predict their moves unless it was obvious.@@jackmclaughlin9161
@RafaelSang-tq8ur
@RafaelSang-tq8ur 10 ай бұрын
Yefim Geller is the Grandmaster that has given Bobby more trouble. He was Boris Spassky's second in Reykjavik. Later, he was Karpov's second. A fine theoretician and perennial candidate. Geller lost to Spassky twice in the candidates. Geller alongside with Keres and Spassky became part of history in the Argentinian Tragedy against Najdorf, Panno and Pilnik. The last time Fischer faced Geller was in the Palma de Mallorca Interzonal 1970, where Fischer and Geller were tied for the lead at about the midpoint of the tournament; Geller offered a draw in an even position game, Bobby refused and continued the game. Fighting to the last pawn, in a drawn game, Geller blundered the game away. Bobby destroyed the rest of the tournament by winning the last six games. Bobby won by 3.5 points and suffered only one defeat ( by Larsen ).
@andrewmays3988
@andrewmays3988 9 ай бұрын
I would greatly appreciate your commentary on other great chess players whose games were recorded and replayed today as learning opportunities.😇
@RafaelSang-tq8ur
@RafaelSang-tq8ur 9 ай бұрын
@@andrewmays3988 a good book that everybody should have its: The mammoth book of the world's greatest chess games by Graham Burgess/John Nunn/John Emms. This book only covers games played til 2002. It describes the games with deep analysis and the players.
@DexterHaven
@DexterHaven 9 ай бұрын
Great recap on an interesting time.
@derricklarsen2919
@derricklarsen2919 8 ай бұрын
The Larsens are very proud of that .
@DexterHaven
@DexterHaven 8 ай бұрын
Don't be too "proud," though, since Bobby whitewashed Larsen a year later 6-0 on his road to the title. @@derricklarsen2919
@jackmclaughlin9161
@jackmclaughlin9161 10 ай бұрын
Another fine lesson you put together. From most likely the most gifted chess player to walk the planet. I had the great privileged of of talking to Fischer on the phone when I was 14 in 1979. I was made aware that he was living in Pasadena, I was in neighboring Egale Rock. I lied to the phone operator that I needed a Robert Fischer's number for an emergency. She said there were to Fishers one on on street and one on another. I took a shot and said with confidence one of the streets was it. She placed the call and he answered. He thought I was Peter Biyasas his room mate playing a joke on him. Call lasted about 90- seconds.
@Rspknlikeab0ssxd
@Rspknlikeab0ssxd 10 ай бұрын
That's quite the story! Thank you for sharing. Do you remember any of the words exchanged in particular?
@jackmclaughlin9161
@jackmclaughlin9161 10 ай бұрын
Almost exactly. Fischer said, "hello." I said hello, "is this Robert Fisher?" " Yes. "Is this Bobby Fischer the chess player? "Yeahhhh, is this Peter? " No, you don't know me but I.. Fisher interrupted, "Peter quit messing around I'm watching a program right now." I said , "It's not Peter you don't know me but ... " Fisher repeated "Aw quit messing Peter around I'm watching program right now." I said , Ok thank you good bye." He wasn't rude in his voice just had to go. My brain was buzzing with energy and I was jumping around. I just talked to the man! Many years later I heard his voice in an interview which confirmed it was him. I already knew before and had no doubt. But became excited again remembering that I had really talked to Fischer!!@@Rspknlikeab0ssxd
@wonderfalg
@wonderfalg 10 ай бұрын
So he knew jokes. Amazing!
@bevs9995
@bevs9995 9 ай бұрын
how did you know who his roommate was, lol
@TonyBrasunas
@TonyBrasunas 9 ай бұрын
So you probably contributed to his growing paranoid in his later years. Randos calling up pretending to know him...
@ETBrooD
@ETBrooD 6 ай бұрын
It's a great example of overextension by black followed by a quick attack against the black king. Fischer made it look easy by using every angle, but the attack can go wrong very easily because black can turn it into a counter-attack if white fails to keep the momentum going.
@gregparrott
@gregparrott 9 ай бұрын
I can remember as a kid just how audacious Fisher was, and how he played mind games with his opponents. In one of his tournaments, he deliberately forfeited his first match be not even bothering to appear. Then, on the next match, he handily beat his opponent. That combination so unnerved his opponent that he essentially crumbled. A truly 'in your face' move, and it worked.
@flippert0
@flippert0 10 ай бұрын
Geller was a very strong tactician, allmost as strong as Tal. He outplayed Fischer several times using tactics. I think he had a positive score against Fischer. Geller's strategic vision wasn't as strongly developed. Boris Spassky defeated him regularly using slower, positional play.
@johnsimmons6136
@johnsimmons6136 10 ай бұрын
I really appreciate your format. Informative, Instructive and interesting!
@nilspetterlauvrak1942
@nilspetterlauvrak1942 9 ай бұрын
I want more of this. The pointing out of the hidden potentials of the position and the context material of then nature of the situation and the players involved. A pleasure to watch :)
@michaelsmith4904
@michaelsmith4904 6 ай бұрын
@11:43 I would have foolishly pushed the pawn to h2 with check. The bishop is pinned and can't take the pawn, and White's king must play h1 or the pawn will promote.
@rickprice7919
@rickprice7919 10 ай бұрын
Geller is one of the GM's that have a plus record against RJF. They were great games too! I Know Tal did too, and Gheorghiu was even with him. I met Gheorghiu at a tournament in San Jose, CA which he won. I won my first game against an IM, Richard Lobo in that open section!
@gooddognigel9992
@gooddognigel9992 10 ай бұрын
“Fischer is the greatest genius to descend from the chessic heavens.” - Mikhail Tal
@marcd73
@marcd73 9 ай бұрын
Wow...what was it like going head to head with R. Lobo? Intense game?
@rickprice7919
@rickprice7919 9 ай бұрын
@@marcd73 I played the white pieces and Lobo opted for the Spanish or Ruy Lopez defense. I went for the "Tal" c3 line, and he miscalculated and lost an exchange from a tactical variation, and I played the ending well enough to force resignation. That was in the 70's and in the course of life no longer have the scoresheet. That is my memory, since I have played many games in USCF tournaments and even the world open in 2000. Chess is the hobby I love.
@Ebobster
@Ebobster 10 ай бұрын
This game by Fischer was a model of attacking efficiency from start to finish. Thanks for posting & your clear explanations. Bravo!
@paulbloemen7256
@paulbloemen7256 10 ай бұрын
Great game by Fischer against a super strong opponent. Actually, Geller wasn’t Russian, he was Sovjet-Ukrainian. As far as I know he felt like being the latter, I remember reading somewhere that he was called the lord-farmer (I’m not sure about the English term, I read the Dutch “herenboer”).
@Paul_Beach
@Paul_Beach 10 ай бұрын
The equivalent English term is "gentleman farmer". Thanks for the information. Interesting.
@chessketeer
@chessketeer 10 ай бұрын
Geller was born in 1925, by this time the USSR had one citizenship (since 1924). So, Geller was Soviet by citizenship and Jewish by ethnicity. The citizens of the USSR when they were abroad were commonly referred to as "the Russians" by the foreigners, the westerners included, because for the foreigners the USSR was just the next stage of the Russian Empire. This was the case even after the fall of the Soviet Union, for all of the 90s. This created created a lot of confusion. However, many of the citizens of the former USSR republics referred and still refer to themselves as "the Russians" whenever it's convenient.
@dongjuang4196
@dongjuang4196 10 ай бұрын
@@chessketeer it's not true. It's a part of russian propaganda. Only ethnical russians in the former Soviet republics consider themselves as russians.
@hugovaz777
@hugovaz777 10 ай бұрын
Great game, great commentary
@rickprice7919
@rickprice7919 10 ай бұрын
You should show a Fischer loss to Geller in the Sozin. He had a win and one move lost it for him.
@chubsteriffic
@chubsteriffic 10 ай бұрын
Someone once said that playing against Fischer was like playing against Chess itself.
@cathya44
@cathya44 10 ай бұрын
Geller a great player and one that had a plus score against most World Champions including Fischer himself! Thank you for the video
@martintownsley6544
@martintownsley6544 9 ай бұрын
Bobby Fischer always played the Ruy López.
@Rspknlikeab0ssxd
@Rspknlikeab0ssxd 10 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure Geller was one of a handful of players who had a positive record against Fischer
@yzfool6639
@yzfool6639 10 ай бұрын
You don't need to worry about being "pretty sure' if you have internet access.
@Rspknlikeab0ssxd
@Rspknlikeab0ssxd 10 ай бұрын
@@yzfool6639 Quite the contrary. The only evidence I have for my belief that Geller was one of a handful of players who had a positive record against Fischer I gathered through my internet access. Yet, the internet is often pretty reliably unreliable. So, yeah, I'm in fact still worried about being "pretty sure" and not certain that my belief correctly represents the facts. I wasn't there to see them play, nor was I alive to have better evidence of viewing their scores actively.
@DexterHaven
@DexterHaven 9 ай бұрын
Great job -- efficient, calm, thorough, strong analysis.
@CocoDave37
@CocoDave37 10 ай бұрын
My Dad went to school with Bobby when they were kids. Bobby taught him to play chess and my Dad recounted some stories to me. I wonder if Bobby was alive today could he compete with todays GM's.
@bevs9995
@bevs9995 9 ай бұрын
what school did your dad go to
@CocoDave37
@CocoDave37 9 ай бұрын
@@bevs9995 The Woodward School in Brooklyn. I beleive Bobby lived just a few blocks from my Dad in Bensonhurst.
@FischerFan-cw7rg
@FischerFan-cw7rg 7 ай бұрын
Unfortunately if Bobby was around today he would be 81 BUT if the 29 year old Fischer was around today I think he would still be a holy terror at the board! Oh man would that be a great match to see Bobby in his prime against Gary or Magnus. Those matches/games would no doubt be some of the greatest chess battles of all time!!
@allantubera4760
@allantubera4760 2 ай бұрын
Very creative GM Bobby! From opening all the way to the endgame!
@2Oldcoots
@2Oldcoots 10 ай бұрын
Before computers, analysis support teams, and chess becoming a team support there was The Last Lone World Beater who entered history alone. Bobby's incomparable brilliance defeated the entire USSR! He was the Greatest of all Time and even invented Chess 960 to revitalize the game.
@forestturnings5732
@forestturnings5732 9 ай бұрын
Nicely presented. Thank you.
@VincentT.CharlettII-kl6zh
@VincentT.CharlettII-kl6zh 4 ай бұрын
Chess Dawg: Because of your outstanding analysis & depth of Fischer’s chess games; I now realize that a Fischer comes around only once in a 1,000 years. Had Karpov, Kasparov, Morphy, played Fischer, they would have felt they were in a bad car accident.
@richardsmith7665
@richardsmith7665 10 ай бұрын
After Re1 why not Ne7? (Did not analyze by engine, just looking at it a little myself.)
@forzatuner3916
@forzatuner3916 10 ай бұрын
Fischer just dismantling his opponents with ease.
@jo90ways
@jo90ways 10 ай бұрын
Very good Buddy .... Excellent Explanation and Deadly Fluent ... smooth-less ..... Just 500 Likes .... I cannot Believe that !! But good for me .... nobody knows you !! Secret hidden Gold is my favorite !! my Compliments anyway
@banzaiburger9589
@banzaiburger9589 10 ай бұрын
Good stuff as usual. 🙏
@chessophiler
@chessophiler 10 ай бұрын
Geller's record vs Fischer: 5 wins, 3 losses, 2 draws.
@Luckey900
@Luckey900 8 ай бұрын
Mr. Geller ran out of Smokes during the Game ?!
@SenatorBluto
@SenatorBluto 9 ай бұрын
Just optically Black's position looks lost to me after ...Bg6.
@seanbeadore3615
@seanbeadore3615 10 ай бұрын
What Bobby meant by “best by test” was that he and others seemed to have better games when they played 1. e4. That was the “test.”
@advjayee
@advjayee 10 ай бұрын
A hasty casling may turn into danger. It is opt to do it when the situation demands it
@DexterHaven
@DexterHaven 9 ай бұрын
Fischer was very leery of Geller, who was his kryptonite. Bobby had a lifetime losing record vs. Geller, as I recall; rare for Bobby.
@herbertmische8660
@herbertmische8660 9 ай бұрын
Great, fantastic and immortal Bobby Fischer!!! Respect forever!!! 👍👍👍
@andrewmays3988
@andrewmays3988 9 ай бұрын
THANK YOU for another great chess game with your brilliant commentary!😇
@samulikarjalainen6107
@samulikarjalainen6107 10 ай бұрын
I am sorry but way they treated Korchnoi and Keres is why they get no pity points from me. Korchnoi defected, did he not.
@jamesoloo7386
@jamesoloo7386 2 ай бұрын
and here i am moving pieces without thinking 😅😅
@AlamoCityCello
@AlamoCityCello 10 ай бұрын
Good stuff man! Thanks
@yzfool6639
@yzfool6639 10 ай бұрын
That was a tour de force and gave me the delusion that I could play like Fischer. Direct, principled play.
@joedolce16
@joedolce16 10 ай бұрын
Bad style of a professinal, the Ruissian, in this game. One side nearly undeveloped !!!!
@mabblers
@mabblers 10 ай бұрын
Very good recap
@FirstLast-ms4yl
@FirstLast-ms4yl 10 ай бұрын
Yo it's shocking! Everyone is exposed and shocked! I already saw this years ago on other channels.
@Glenns_Concho_Ranch
@Glenns_Concho_Ranch 10 ай бұрын
I think you need to go just a little bit faster so as to make this a complete waste of time for the general viewers without Phd's in chess strategy :)
@bimbur1
@bimbur1 10 ай бұрын
Excellent commentary - who is this man?
@johnbyerlein6682
@johnbyerlein6682 9 ай бұрын
One rarely sees Geller smashed so quickly.
@kwaicaine1417
@kwaicaine1417 10 ай бұрын
Are you Matthew Crossette?
@DiamorphineDeath
@DiamorphineDeath 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely shocking treatment. Just utterly shocking
@erniejohnson8200
@erniejohnson8200 6 ай бұрын
Dude, you blasted through that sequence SO FAST I could not keep up with the analysis. I was enjoying and learning. UP TO THAT POINT! DO YOU RECKON I'LL WATCH MORE?
@SteveBull-tg8mi
@SteveBull-tg8mi 9 ай бұрын
I enjoy your explanations, but sometimes you are a little hard to follow
@CV_CA
@CV_CA 10 ай бұрын
I expected Fisher punching him or something lol...
@stephanebelizaire3627
@stephanebelizaire3627 9 ай бұрын
BRAVO !
@miketriple5
@miketriple5 10 ай бұрын
You are playing out too many scenarios. It's distracting to what's actually going on in the game.
@George-sv7qx
@George-sv7qx 9 ай бұрын
🤣second place is the goal when Fisher is in the lineup
@jamesdarcy3902
@jamesdarcy3902 9 ай бұрын
I thought the Soviets learned not to play the Sicilian against RJF?
@Amer1kop
@Amer1kop 10 ай бұрын
Back when chess and national pride meant something different
@dongjuang4196
@dongjuang4196 10 ай бұрын
Are you sure that Geller was russian? By nationality he was Jewish, by birth place he was born in Odessa, Ukraine.
@markschuette2615
@markschuette2615 9 ай бұрын
Who cares
@strahdvonzarovich...
@strahdvonzarovich... 10 ай бұрын
"Shocking Treatment" and "Russian GMs Exposed" huh. No clickbait provocation title there?!
@trevorwatt1193
@trevorwatt1193 10 ай бұрын
Wasn't Geller Ukrainian? This may have been a bit confusing in the Soviet era but these days less so.
@Letitbeism369
@Letitbeism369 9 ай бұрын
Very confusing. I just wanted to watch the GM moves
@KeithDonovan-cd3eo
@KeithDonovan-cd3eo 10 ай бұрын
Gallery wasn't Russian he was from Ukraine
@Amer1kop
@Amer1kop 10 ай бұрын
Which was part of the Soviet Union at the time.
@Amer1kop
@Amer1kop 10 ай бұрын
And actually was considered a Russian National
@KeithDonovan-cd3eo
@KeithDonovan-cd3eo 10 ай бұрын
@@Amer1kop he wasn't Russian
@KeithDonovan-cd3eo
@KeithDonovan-cd3eo 10 ай бұрын
Soviet Union wasnt Russia ​@@Amer1kop
@DarkSideChess
@DarkSideChess 10 ай бұрын
Pretty sure he was ethnically jewish. Not that it matters.
@earlmiller6093
@earlmiller6093 9 ай бұрын
This is interesting, I don’t play board or card games…. Chess is the only interesting game
@rotagbhd
@rotagbhd 10 ай бұрын
The G.O.A.T.
@TarekYahia-v2j
@TarekYahia-v2j 10 ай бұрын
👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 ❤❤❤❤
@MartinLewkovitch
@MartinLewkovitch 6 ай бұрын
🙏🏽
@DamirHadzic-d4q
@DamirHadzic-d4q 2 ай бұрын
Fischer was so afraid of Karpov,that he didn't want to play. 😂😂😂
@Chessdummy
@Chessdummy 10 ай бұрын
😎
@8triagrammer
@8triagrammer 10 ай бұрын
I like your vids, but please stop with the over the top click-bait titles...
@jameshogan6142
@jameshogan6142 10 ай бұрын
Yes Fischer beat Geller comprehensively but the title suggests that he deployed some skulduggery or other nefarious tactics.
@yzfool6639
@yzfool6639 10 ай бұрын
@@jameshogan6142 He did, by modern standards. He didn't copy any computer moves. He didn't play moves that contained no threats out of fear a miscalculation on his part, and he did not have a single person assisting him in his preparations. Given these circumstances, people would accuse him of cheating if he played this game today.
@johnh5259
@johnh5259 10 ай бұрын
@@yzfool6639 Kramnik would call Fischer's play "interesting" and demand an investigation.
@jameshogan6142
@jameshogan6142 10 ай бұрын
So did Alekhine but nobody accused him of cheating. @@yzfool6639
@yefimk
@yefimk 10 ай бұрын
The titles are the best on youtube
@sliceserve234
@sliceserve234 9 ай бұрын
why do so many weak players like to make (weak) videos like this?
@beepboop204
@beepboop204 10 ай бұрын
@yzfool6639
@yzfool6639 10 ай бұрын
That was a tour de force and gave me the delusion that I could play like Fischer. Direct, principled play.
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