Proven BJJ Competition Strategy against a Strong Wrestler

How do you deal with the Takedown aspect of a Wrestler who's in a Grappling competition? Or what do you do when someone's better at take downs?
As a Wrestler who got into Brazilian Jiu-jitsu. I can tell you that I used to put a lot of focus on takedowns.
When I would go to a BJJ competition. I would do everything I could in order to get on top of the person.
Oftentimes if someone pulled me into Guard it kind of sucked the wind out of my sails. I wouldn't have the points for getting the takedown and it took away my forward momentum.
In this video I respond to a question from Cassie who has a son, Ryan, who is competing in local superfight matches.
His matches have been going well but she's now noticing that the area gyms are offering more wrestling in their BJJ training. And their gym does not offer it.
The question from them is how do you approach a situation in a competition when your opponent has superior takedowns.
Chad and I both show options as to how we deal with this situation in BJJ tournaments or competitions.
The main idea is to converse your energy on the feet and save it for once you get to the ground. In my case I use a Guard Pull into Half Guard for the sweep.
But I'll save the details and let you see them in the video. :)
Hope the video is useful!
-Chewy
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[@krt7736]

I, the wrestler, will be watching for these moves.

[@davideric8250]

I had to fight a wrestler today and we are both white level but man he freakin suplex me over his shoulder lol. I was tired and he was too strong and never lost any energy. Then after he smashed my azz into guard .. he would just stand back up lol . It was hellish. He took me down 4 times in 5 min but failed to submit me and I did nothing but hang on

[@scum2211]

@@davideric8250 try a firemans carry or tripping them from side clinch, i swear to god they never fucking see it coming. Its ridiculous

[@guy_with_a_car]

Here to see what they will try against me lol

[@terryavery9918]

@Tom Evers You have obviously not been in wrestling

[@terryavery9918]

@Tom Evers Apparently you don't understand the capabilities of what can happen with a fireman's carry, to which I seriously doubt based on your claim. This is only the beginning to many different and very damaging possibilities once the fireman's carry has been executed properly. You, who have claimed to have coached for 20 years should already know this, as well as the damaging effects of the banned action of stacking or otherwise. Just to make sure everyone who reads my reply, I am including an example of a fireman's carry so they too can use their imagination as to what can be done when a fireman's carry is executed properly and what can be done once that has been executed. It might possibly help you to understand better to look at pro wrestling and the many different "gimmick moves" that are used once the fireman's carry has started, leading into the "gimmick move". It's not hard to understand the variables that can be execeuted from that position, and the damage it can inflict, depending on what move is executed once the individual is in the height of the fireman's carry. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mnS0mWSBa9JkjJo I hope you have a wonderful day as well, and may YHWH keep you in His grace.

[@hassanbenhammou2156]

Man I remember being a subscriber since 1400 subs. Crazy how fast youve grown ovr the past year

[@Chewjitsu]

Hassan Benhammou it’s because of cool people like you.

[@hassanbenhammou2156]

❤ ily

[@dumdrumbum6076]

Chewy almost 100k!!! ill be very happy to see 6 digits in that subscriber box

[@jeebusyaweirdo3733]

This is so important for certain areas of the USA. In my area, wrestling may not be as big as football but it’s still a big thing so a lot of people in my area have grappling knowledge and you do have to adapt to what you are likely going to face most. It’s in fact so popular that at least half of those in the classes I go to wrestled in school, myself included.

[@Tobby4063]

Head position is really important and usually overlooked by BJJ guys. Nice video.

[@leonardmartinez0461]

4:02 wrestlers: “then I step in and get that head and arm and throw you over lol “

[@ericr2617]

Pulling guard makes me feel ashamed.

[@SwordTune]

So just do takedowns.

[@tristanmorton1057]

Facts I never did that

[@ManofOneGod]

I am a wrestler and judoka. Thank you.

[@janitorandalifecoach2112]

One note bout putting the neck in their neck like that is a good wrestler will instantly think head an arm throw think of that kinda school yard head lock pivot to the ground move but done by a trained wrestler. Most wrestlers know anytime the head is put in that spot that's the perfect situation to take what they've given you and pivot step grab the head and easy peezy to head and arm pin yet in jits to a arm triangle or arm intangle choke.

[@AkaAka_AkaAka]

as a wrestler I love these. One of the things I don't do as a wrestler when sparing with BJJ guys is go for takedowns. I've always been a defensive wrestler but a good option for wrestlers is to not go for a forward takedown. take the time to pop use an elbow to pop up an arm left or right... sidestep and go for a side takedown... Ideally (for ME this may not work for others) I want to be either coming in from the side right or left... and if I'm lucky taking them down onto their belly... Also another big thing for wrestlers... learn to use your legs. there are a large number of leg related wrestling skills that I notice many wrestlers don't utilize... and if it isn't obvious... learn some BJJ... we're grapplers there shouldn't be this huge divide between us rolling is half the fun I don't care if you do Judo, BJJ, or Wrestle there should be respect and a feeling of camaraderie between all grapplers.

[@genghiskhan7041]

Sounds like you are advocating stuff like arm drags and go behinds. Simple stuff, and they work great. Low risk/high reward moves.

[@AkaAka_AkaAka]

@@genghiskhan7041 yep that's exactly what i'm saying.

[@shtanna]

Can you make a similar video on how to deal with those tough Judoka dudes?

[@coldandaloof7166]

New to BJJ so don't judge too harshly if I am totally off. Have not wrestled since Highschool but have used my grappling skills on the street as a LEO. So as a short wrestler, with tall Chad there, when he sits down I just need to recognize what he is doing and either step back, if I can, or drop straight down on top of him and slide down to his ankles and turn him over with a leg twist? What I don't understand about BJJ is how they score points in a match. Do you only win if you get a submission or what? On the street if I see someone has these skills I just go straight to a baton as the skill level of our criminals has increased dramatically and I can risk getting choked out and loosing my gun. So it's either stick them or shoot them.

[@shootits48]

You guys are awesome love the channel.

[@klrdto3250]

It also depends on the weight difference and strength difference between the two fighters... If ur fighting someone heavier and stronger, RUN!

[@tristanmorton1057]

Klr Dto obviously

[@joeyfigueroa4748]

I don't care about rules, and I don't do it for sport. I'm in boxing and Muay Thai, if I end up in a physical altercation without a wrestler, I'm gonna apply everything, even dirty fighting.

[@JPerry-jw9ik]

Yes. this will work against a highschool JV wrestler. GL getting it to work on someone with more advanced skills. best way to heat a wrestler - is to not wrestle them.

[@juntjoonunya9216]

I agree this is a good move cuz I have a weak back/neck and prefer trips to sintle/double legs and wrestlers usually do single/double legs. So I do a trip version of this move, with the same hold, like a lateral drop which they're not always used to.

[@lampleather2574]

Ah man I gotta try that triangle if I fail the butterfly sweep. Seems similar to the failed hip bump sweep to triangle.

[@sz.797]

Chew , I was a Dutch kickboxer and I loved it , but now I have a teeth retainers so any punch to my teeth will ruin everything, i'm giving BJJ a try for the first time , I'm 17 years old but the problem is in my country I only have Gracie Barra school and it is 30 km away , if I had a car I would go for it but too bad I only have to go beg my brother or Uber which will be expensive AF ,, can you answer me please if you have a solution

[@memysurname7521]

Being so far away is a bonus. Go running. It's great training 👍

[@arifmemovic3383]

Riding a bike 30 km shouldn't take more than a couple of hours. I just read an article about GSP travelling a 7 hour drive from Montreal to NYC every weekend to train BJJ.

[@nstv23]

Advanced Leglock game is the best weapon against wrestlers. They are white belts at the leglock game regardless the years of wrestling

[@DENNISLOPEZINC]

A lot of jiujitsu’s moves originate from the Long history of wrestling.

[@JFSL2008]

But improved

[@sonicfx5431]

@@JFSL2008 All grappling has strengths and weaknesses. Wrestling is decent on both verticle and ground. Judo is good on standing up and okay at ground. BJJ is good at ground and okay standing up.

[@KingSquirtle999]

??? Random

[@ernestobarra5546]

Im so mad after my first competition I got second place and a silver medal. In the finals i wen tup against a 8 year wrestler he took me down so hard and had good pressure. I really want to train harder to beat these wrestlers its so unfair.

[@Tookieslam]

Lol unfair...

[@Bob-pk9jr]

Thought u said 8 year old wrestler

[@atypicalambience3487]

@@Tookieslam As if the wrestler didn't earn it training for 8 years.

[@bryantherron2791]

Anytime you go to your back against a wrestler you risk a pin or your giving them back points especially if they’re experienced

[@iceman2721]

I did judo jiujitsu and wrestling, I do rely on my wrestling more than anything the people i think are tough in jiu jitsu have a solid grip, are really good at breaking down posture and are experts in using their legs to wrestle, these tend to frustrate me because it's hard to pass someone who can use their legs and hard to pressure them when they keep breaking you down. Where i succeed against jiu jitsu guys is tie ups, scrambles takedowns, and top pressure all these combined i usually ride my opponent and wear them down for the bout.

[@kennethdoran9443]

That’s a good mom

[@craigmeyers9137]

So, collar tie and under hook with head position..? Okay, just do a throw by using the under hook and take the back or throw by to butt drag.., because a wrestler "will" throw an elbow pass when you apply the under hook..

[@psychosis1421]

Wrestlers will let u have a collar tie and sometimes that underhook but good luck with head position

[@nickmonasseri1572]

Chewy, can BJJ guys do this in MMA?

[@rockybalboa2526]

Hey. i was talking about 3:41-3:36 time on the video. At 3:41 you put your hands on his neck and were trying to secure holding him down so he couldnt do anything? So i noticed that if he were fast enough in that second that you were trying to get a secure hold around his neck and head? he could muay thai knee you in your face or chest, and stop you. If you were talking about a controlled competition? then yes, your strategy might work. BUT if you are talking about real life? self defense? or someone who knows what they are doing trying to take you down in the street? then yeahh, any number of things can go wrong with these strategies.. I see alot of these technique videos are interesting, and they look great alot of times. But what no videos show is the REALITY of a real life street situation. when the attacks are very fast and the person being attacked reacts in different ways. there are simply no guaranteed outcomes. when adrenaline kicks in? people even surprise themselves, with strength, courage, techniques, its alot about acting on instinct, subconscious and muscle memory. or people break free from that attacker and run faster than they ever ran before. I think THESE are the types of videos that need to be made. because in a real life situation there is no demonstration of events. and infact there is just no time to even think. you have to always be aware, and be prepared for just about anything. That is what im talking about..

[@terryavery9918]

"instinct, subconscious and muscle memory"... what you just mentioned there is probably the very key to the Jeet Kune Do style taught by Bruce Lee. "Be like water" in every situation! Use what you know and practice it so much that you start doing it without even thinking about it.

[@omn5142]

Not gonna get me now that I've seen this

[@benjaminhorowitz9927]

My coach always tells us to grab the back of the head instead of the neck when holding the collar tie is there any advantage in not doing it?

[@terryavery9918]

The back of the head grab is only really good for controlling where the opponent can look as well as pulling the head into the chest. The back of the neck is the preferred location to where more holding strength can be applied to force direction and even momentum. Think about striking options as well when considering using these techniques in a real fight. To hold the back of the head with striking is far more dangerous, vs holding the neck and striking areas of the body and is harder to escape.

[@atilax6452]

Nothing will work. If u have a wrestler and you are not a wrestler, you will lose. If u disagree with this, enter some tournaments. The only solution, is to become a wrestler.

[@zacharygolden7077]

Link to chads channel

[@zacharygolden7077]

Please

[@sz.797]

Zachary Golden search : Chad the beast Hardy

[@Chewjitsu]

Zachary Golden look up chad the beast hardy.. he’s bad ass

[@willcrowley857]

Put your temple on his ear/side of forehead it is more effective

[@kevinmcgregor2917]

We should work together sometime I could show you a couple moves.

[@joelrodriguez6625]

I was a state champ nun of these will work

[@chenwang643]

i think shes confusing no gi bjj with wrestling lmao

[@jimmyalderson1639]

Idk if is gree with your sentiment of trying to get the ground game going straight away. IMm nto gonna complain about it, obviously,myour style is yours, that's how it should be. Maybe it's from my background in judo but i don't like pulling guard. I feel like jiu jitsu is supposed to be an efficient way to win a fight, and the reason it specialises in ground work is because lots of fights will go to the ground so you need to be prepared. It is true that most fights go to the ground but it is also true that every fight starts from standing. So i believe jiu jitsu isn't about groundwork, but rather about winning a fight efficiently. And if that fight ends witha. Standing submission, that's still jiu jitsu. F that fight ends with a throw that winds the opponent and you get a free opportunity or they can't recover (obviously don't throw with that kind of malicious intent) that's still jiu jitsu. If you subdue your opponent in a pin and as they try to escape maneuvre to different pins keeping the pressure on until the hold becomes naturally so tight they submit, that's still jiu jitsu.f you're fighting a big dude who you know you can't take down so you pull guard and try to get as much fo an initial ground advantage as possible and slowly inch your way to a victory, that's still jiu jitsu. I don't think it's accurate to judge good jiu jitsu by good ground work, because that's missing the whole idea of jiu jitsu, in my opinion, which is effectively the same principle that has been restated in judo since it was first created: maximum efficiency, minimum effort. Whether or not that happens on the ground or in the stand up is irrelevant That's what i believe

[@DSpencer189]

jimmy alderson pulling guard in a street fight situation isn't smart.. and you got to know sone takedowns to get a fight in the BJJ world.. my one complaint about BJJ tourneys is pulling guard

[@jimmyalderson1639]

DSpencer189 i agree with the first statement, thou i don't know if the second assertion is quite true. I think at the top level you don't really need to know takedowns, you just need your opponent to think you do. So a basic single or double leg is really all you need. Basically what i'm trying to say is that at the top level, to me, it looks like even the guys who know takedowns and throws don't actually try to do them. I think it's for a similar reason Chewy mentions, i think they're in too much of a rush and feel like if they don't go to the ground then they're not doing jiu jitsu. So at the top level it's more the mutual assured destruction by both sides believing that the other knows takedowns that creates tension, but in the end to me it looks like all of them always have the intention of pulling guard to begin with, takedowns are more of a bluff

[@andresgreene4913]

Let's not forget context here guys. The question posed was about sport BJJ, and specifically BJJ competition. BJJ as a sport focuses on groundwork, so what people wanna see in competitions, overwhelmingly, as spectators and competitors, is groundwork, not standup. Besides that,there are almost no pure BJJ guys who can consistently outperform wrestlers, judoka, or any other standup specialists when it comes to takedowns. What you can do is mitigate/circumvent the damage so you can focus on your strengths, and that's what this video's about.

[@jimmyalderson1639]

Andres Greene i have no criticism of the strategy against wrestlers. It'd be ridiculous ofr me to assert that trying to defeat a specialist in their specialist area is 'real jiu jitsu'. I'm just talking in general people are too happy to pull guard, they have no awareness and no interest in having any kind of good stand up game because they feel like because they specialise in groundwork they don't need it. Of fourse in the sport you don't, but playing the rules of the game isn't the same as understanding the art. I'm saying that the idea of pulling guard as a default tactic, against someone whose proficiency at takedowns is known to be equal or somewhat equal to your own, is bad spirit and is not helpful to your understanding of jiu jitsu or your proficiency if you were to use your jiu jitsu outside of a sports environment. I say the same thing of judoka who don't show any interest in newaza, they may win the sport of judo because of the rules of the game but that does not make them any better judoka or better prepared for live combat, in fact it'd make them worse. Of course in thsi clntext pulling guard is perfectly reasonable, but it's because of the reasoning behind it. I'm just saying in a general case i don't like the idea that a person will just inprovise their way through one segment of combat merely because their sport rules promote it

[@andresgreene4913]

The fact that a kickboxer kicks more than he punches doesn't mean that he doesn't understand kickboxing. It means kickboxing as an art focuses more on kicks than punches. The assertion that kickboxing should incorporate more punches is a separate issue. BJJ as an art is about grappling on the ground, whether it should include more standup grappling (I agree with you that it should), is a separate issue. A BJJ practitioner who isn't proficient in standup grappling isn't denying himself a fuller understanding of BJJ. BJJ as an art, with it's near total emphasis on ground techniques, is denying its practitioners a fuller understanding of grappling in general. But every fighting art does this with something, because no fighting art covers everything.So basically, BJJ is what it is, but would be better if it was something else.I don't think we actually disagree.

[@Codeeez]

He's so lucky his ears are small

[@GhostRider-hy9zt]

How to beat a wrestler: Don't wrestle them.

[@counterkidnapping1737]

Or become one

[@GhostRider-hy9zt]

Counter Kidnapping I mean you’re not wrong

[@lobsterairsoft499]

Work smarter not harder

[@rexorais1851]

@@lobsterairsoft499 ur lazy

[@lobsterairsoft499]

@@rexorais1851 yes so?

[@arturofernandez725]

Could you please not give techniques that beat wrestlers? K thx

[@Waagghhboy]

Arturo Fernandez lmfao bruh

[@r.b.4611]

pooo-say

[@Chewjitsu]

Arturo Fernandez 😂

[@arturofernandez725]

Chewjitsu your friend Kenneth D teaches at my gym! Maybe i'll see you at the cruise next year.

[@royfoley355]

Haha!

[@railroadtrash09]

I tried this against a wrestler. He took my lunch money, then my girlfriend.

[@donaldtrumplover2254]

So how many layers of irony would this be? Like 4?

[@skunk12]

Sorry. I was hungry and horny. I spent the money, but you can have your girlfriend back now.

[@genghiskhan7041]

Did he use a headlock on you? Seems like the method shown in this video would be susceptible to a headlock and possibly even a hip toss.

[@blazingbones7]

Not only does this video help BJJ. It's helps a wrestler. ;)

[@muaythaikicks3418]

Ha😂

[@paperclipmma5530]

Just like how if you know a submission really well you know what it needs to work and how to stop it as well

[@JoeyDeJesusBch]

Same reason I'm here 😂

[@DubH46]

I'd love to watch you and Chad do a 5 or 8 minute roll sometime. You guys are both so great.

[@Chewjitsu]

Warren Hopkins we’ll do some coming up. There’s a few rolling session on already

[@peoplefocused1453]

I came to write the same comment. But, Warren stole my thunder.

[@odinstarlance7510]

Got to be careful wrestlers know about head placement and will make you fight for it.

[@kizmel12]

Wrestler's circle alot they dont just charge forward. I can't see the butterfly sweep really working

[@allrounder242]

@@kizmel12 u're correct butterfly gaurd or sweeps works very well against wrestlers. They don't know how to break it and just runs into circle and gives us more advantage

[@keeganpoteet]

@@kizmel12 works great against wrestlers

[@Waagghhboy]

I'm a wrestler [little bjj] starting at a mma gym [team curran mma] I havent clicked on a video so fast. Haha I'm wondering if someone is going to do this to me

[@chasebirch2951]

Ed Negron me too 🤣

[@Sun_Fire_2]

People pull guard all the time.

[@Waagghhboy]

@@Sun_Fire_2 now i pull guard lol

[@nathaniseman5439]

A good wrestler won't tie up like that. We'll hand fight hand fight hand fight to means of an opening

[@odinstarlance7510]

I was thinking here comes the fireman

[@marcospedroza7184]

Not many people are good wrestlers

[@ray.n_l]

@@marcospedroza7184 I dunno man. People who have done wrestling for atleast throughout highschool know the principles of grappling pretty well already.

[@ray.n_l]

I really doubt a jiujitsu guy would beat a wrestler fighting for head position in underhook

[@marcospedroza7184]

@D Smith Your point is that I'm not in America because America has many good wrestlers and so I must not be in America, but I am, Milwaukee Wisconsin to be exact. Wrestling is pretty competitive here. Plenty of good wrestlers tie up like that. A good wrestler isn't defined by whether or not he'll tie up lol but maybe you have a different definition of a good wrestler

[@ianscott3265]

An interesting companion video would be techniques to use again a judoka? It'd be interesting hearing your perspective on judo-style takedowns as a wrestling/BBJ guy.

[@joshuakehl5891]

Ian Scott I second that!

[@AlejandroCab98]

Basically if they know tomoe or sumi nage be prepared to tale flight backwards if you try to bulldoze you way in. A way to counter that would be to stall and block the sweeps then shoot for a single or double leg

[@sethb6383]

no counter to sume gaeshi is o ouch gari and counter to tomo nage is ko ouchi or o ouch gari or the cartwheel guard pass@@AlejandroCab98

[@cwpreston]

I’m a judoka first, and the biggest impediment is the lack of strong grips to pull with. You have to alter the grips but there are some that lead to some traditional throw combos- o Soto Gari, uchi mata/harai goshi, seoi naga, and all the foot techniques.

[@benjaminhorowitz9927]

If he tries to throw you from the from the front try to grip fight him so he can't break you posture if he does try to be stable and suplex him

[@boo1086]

Why compare styles? Styles divide... What the real question is, is how do i become the best grappler i can be? Free of limitations from a set way. After all your just moving your body, so lets figure out the path of least resistance to the end game.

[@MrCooperst]

because figuring out what someone else's style is helps better predict what their next move is likely to be, allowing you to set up more effective ways of beating them.

[@AlejandroCab98]

Because people compete on different things

[@bbqseitan7106]

@@MrCooperst I love what you're saying, cuz that's my goal, to be a "master"(all relevant discipline) grappler. You gotta understand that people will go back to what they know when cornered, if you corner a wrestler in a match he's gonna wrestle, and if You're unprepared youre getting blown out of the water

[@arifmemovic3383]

Because the average BJJ player who competes will end up facing wrestlers who also train BJJ. Most people who begin their training at a BJJ gym will have dozens if not hundreds of hours less of matt time focusing on takedowns compared to your average high school and especially collegiate wrestler.

[@ir4355]

underrated comment this is what bruce lee says about styles when it comes to combat

[@berniekatzroy]

Crossing training to your bjj game is always a good thing, thanks Steven Crowder.

[@stacybehrens7152]

I would be very impressed at a BJJ grappler who manages to get a tight over the neck collar tie, a deep underhook, and head position on a good wrestler. No wrestler is going to give that position away without a fight. Not saying it can’t be done but if they are any good at all it won’t be easy to get.

[@zoommair]

AWESOME!!! I always struggle with wrestlers being my city is very wrestling-heavy.

[@martialarborist7918]

Man I'm gonna hate when I start purple belt tournaments where the wrestlers have learned how to defend triangles

[@stormblade1199]

I find it hard to believe you've gotten to purple while only knowing one submission lol

[@KKSuited]

@@stormblade1199 everyone has their bread and butter.

[@stormblade1199]

@@KKSuited Yes but you're taught more than one submission even at the white belt level, so this guy has likely never even worn a gi

[@lucascastro2802]

@@stormblade1199 dude's literally just making a little joke mate

[@ArielBojorquez]

Man Askren was doing good against Maia he just messed up

[@Waluwussy]

Wrestler doing bjj here. Strongly recommend forehead in the temple vise the neck for that head control. It might just be me but I feel like not only do I misalign his neck better but it causes more discomfort or pain, and it feels more persuasive to me

[@krseaster]

You should have shown me this before we competed against each other. Awesome move Chewy.

[@kuwyjitsu]

Great video. I see so many Jiu Jitsu guys try to waste time on the feet and go for takedowns against a wrestler.

[@alanalexander2347]

That grip at 3:48. From a wrestling perspective lock your hands jack up the undertook and pull his face to your chest keeping your elbows tight. Circle towards the underhook; heavyweight headlock it’ll put you in side control

[@dennisblackburn6585]

Yeah, it will work until a good wrestler changes his level.

[@franklasota2289]

Lmao well listen here buddy. The entire video is about pulling. You won't even get to change levels and if you do it's on my watch.

[@pierceturner3711]

Frank Lasota no wrestler is gonna let u get double under hooks so u can pull

[@patrickmorgan4006]

@@pierceturner3711 And no wrestler will ever push straight in on a guy with a collar tie and wrist.

[@lynchenblack5062]

#1 - train wrestling

[@pukeskywalker9256]

We just had a d3 wrestler start today and he was super easy to handle because he was top heavy in just about every position. So he got taken to sweep city but I know he has the makings of a beast

[@michachalikesyou]

My coaches have always kind of pressured us to never pull guard on anybody

[@michachalikesyou]

@Tom Evers now that it’s been a couple years I’d change my answer. They pressure us not to pull guard in competition unless you have no chance at a takedown lmao. My head coach was a top 10 wrestler and a fan of staying on top but we have high level guys that are successful guard pullers

[@kcluu9390]

I wrestled D1 in college and am learning BJJ right now. I don't collar tie while standing and all the BJJ guys are completely lost. Lmao. John Smith at OSU teaches not to collar tie. BJJ guys get so nervous and they either rush to tie up which makes it easier to level change and shoot or they sit on their butts and don't want anything standing. 😅

[@Alipford]

We wrestlers literally just peel that collar tie off as soon as it comes

[@genghiskhan7041]

I worked almost exclusively from a collar tie. It's amazing how many nasty things a wrestler can do from a collar tie if he knows what he's doing. The worst mistake any of my opponents could make against me on the mat was allowing me to put a collar tie on them.

[@patrickmorgan4006]

Nah, I'll duck under it as it is coming in from a non-wrestler. Then there's no need to peel it off.

[@abdulwahidraufi6030]

Charles olivera watching closely

[@tevinmachart7515]

3:00 the collar tie and undertook, a wrestler will never collar tie your underhook side. It leaves you WIDE open.

[@SodaPopCurtis808]

I can see this being effective in a failed clinch situation in a real scrap, where an ambusher just attacks and the momentum forces one or both to topple over. Cool beans...

[@GregFellowsSD]

Chewy That small detail of hooking the outside leg at 4:15 was like a light bulb. I watched this video this morning and went to the gym and swept two guys because of it. It's such a great tool not get flattened out in half guard. I noticed you were using it in the other video of you and the Big College Wrestler. Thanks!

[@Sun_Fire_2]

I've been using stuff from marvin castelle kids classes he teaches lol. The bigger guys don't know how to react to such slow and gentle takedows lol. The wrestlers at my gym are all young and fierce. I get a really low wide stance just like marvin and stalk them lol they usually just look at me puzzled. I even do the distracting arm movements hehe. I Also have been working on this half-assed white belt legal quasi-iminari to straight ankle takedown and sub variation I came up with. So far the wrestlers have been letting me get away with it.

[@ahmadtaheri9607]

i like your videos, I from a wrestling back round. would you be kind enough to make a video giving us some tips on how to use our skills against a BJJ opponent. perhaps some pointer and tips would be awesome. thanks again.

[@terryavery9918]

If you are really from a wrestling background, I would suggest you use your imagination in order to convert some of those wrestling moves into more dangerous moves as well as submission moves. It may help to watch various videos on wrestling, pro wrestling and MMA sports to catch some of what can be done with wrestling based moves.

[@bpnk5237]

@@terryavery9918 or learn catch wrestling

[@ProfessorG993]

What about for mma ? I started to practice this deep half position and got punched in the face

[@JohnnyBengels]

In MMA just don't pull any guard. Beeing on your back in MMA isn't a good idea. Look at MMA Fights, the most fighters will immediately try to stand up when they end up on their backs. Punching from above is a critical factor in a MMA fight. Maybe if you are very good at BJJ you have the chance to act calmly before the first punch landed. Once punches are landing on your face your BJJ skills will decrease fast. So be quick and get to top position or try to stand up.

[@THE_Secular_Conservative]

All this grappling VS. Judo vs Jiu-jitsu vs Wrestling. The martial arts world is awaiting a grappling art that eliminates all of the fluff and combines the best of all 3 to equal a COMPLETE grappling system.

[@zedek_]

I like your vids, and even this vid, but I do want to point out one thing that bothers me. That "dancing" around you're talking about is literally the standup component of grappling. I understand you like the groundwork and want to get that going, but this is exactly what has bothered me about BJJ; this dismissive aspect of standup grappling, which is _so_ important in ANY OTHER grappling-related martial context (including and especially for self-defense). Case in point... people in high level MMA don't really play guard. For decades now, the upper echelon has consisted of notable _wrestlers_ that know enough BJJ to get submission awareness, who then go out and _wrestle_ . Daniel Cormier is the most striking example of this, because he was/is literally just a blue belt in BJJ. That's how powerful the ability to dictate where, when, and _if_ , the fight goes to the ground is. That's also why I really like Eddie Bravo's Combat Jiu Jitsu... it keeps BJJ honest.

[@kevclements4492]

Great video, but you just have to be careful when your head is next to his and your ear to ear. Your super vulnerable to a head and arm throw especially against a wrestler.

[@kevclements4492]

Lmao I paused the video and commented that at 3:51 and he said the same thing at 4:02

[@ceetee4454]

Jiu jitsu players should fear wrestlers for good reason. Wrestlers are constantly adapting to others styles, free style, college style, folk style, junior Olympics style, olympic style, greco, it's what we do. It's what makes us dangerous on any matt. Like Marines we over come and adapt. Jiu jitzu players fear us for we will learn your style we will adapt and we will beat you at your own game!! LOL

[@robu2580]

Garbage!! Dont ever pull guard in bjj. If your opponent gets a takedown work from ur back. Save the embarrassment from pulling guard.

[@cyndyr8938]

Do you know the head snap is a classic /basic wrestler move and one of the first things you teach wrestler to maintain balance. If they can not defend against that the are not what they claim to be. That is with 7 years wrestling and 20 years coaching. By no means do I think I am great but I have rolled in college with my coach who was an alternate on the Olympic team and weighed 80 lbs less than me. When you are as good as those guys you are laughing at what you are showing. Wrestlers do not get pulled or lose balance unless they want to that is why BJJ got destroyed by so many. And when you try to defend against wrestling you are not using bjj u r using wrestling. Finally there are aggressive and defensive wrestlers. Those who join your gyms tend to be to aggressive and poorly controlled otherwise they would be more focused on wrestling. Reason being coaching jobs, scholarships, Olympics, etc. and opportunity to train mma in grappling. Without getting punched in the face or getting brain damage.

[@C_Castillo]

As someone who studies both, if you take down the wrestler and out wrestle him his moral will drop, then id attempt a shoulder lock from mount just bc, if youre out wrestled then bust out the bjj lol

[@brendon2462]

What about working on sprawling and transitioning off a sprawl into a figure four giotine? Or using a kimura grip to counter a single leg attempt? Kimura against a single will either break their grip on your leg. It forces the wrestler to let go.Or give you a reversal into a kimura sweep. Which can transition into an armbar. How about sprawling on a double and working the anaconda choke. In mma their are sweeps that have worked well against wrestling bases. Newton vs Hughes 1 Newton used a situp or hip bump sweep to reverse him. Miguel Torres used the butterfly hook sweep and hip bump sweep on Demetrius Johnson successfully.

[@anthonycrisci4647]

Advice for people who can’t wrestle. Better advice Tell her to get her kid into wrestling if her kid wants to win

[@jakobschroeder6389]

Weird, watching this as a wrestler

[@davideric8250]

CAn you guys stop going 100 percent on everything lol . You wrestlers are killing me in class. I cannot handle 100 percent

[@studiomonster-c9l]

No.

[@TheEwokExplorer]

Same.

[@maandlifting5877]

Dear wrestlers never stop going 100

[@tristanmorton1057]

If your not going 100 percent every practice how do you ever expect to beat anyone who does

[@prestongoodwin2129]

“Today we’re going to be going over how to beat a shitty wrestler”

[@orangecountyyouthsportsaca2614]

It's unfortunate that these types of videos get published as truth misleading a lot of people. I doubt this is a "Proven" strategy. If you are looking for answers on how to deal with Wrestlers in a BJJ environment...send them to Dojo where high level (elite HS or NCAA-level) wrestlers and BJJ folks roll together. KY as a state has so few wrestlers who reach a level to even make it to the NCAAs... it would be "extremely difficult" for any BJJ Dojo in KY to gather the kinds of wrestlers needed to prove ANY COMPETITION STRATEGY versus Wrestlers. This video is reminds me of a person asking a an Alaskan fisherman: "What's best strategy to kill lions in Africa?" BTW, I'm not saying Kentucky doesn't have its studs: the Ervins, Lampe brothers, Blackwell, Nathan Boston...but they don't all roll BJJ at his Dojo....and wrestling is not a very popular or successful sport in KY compared to the rest of the US where wrestling is much more successful. So this might work in KY...but be careful using it outside KY...where the wrestling is better. For ex. no wrestler would let a BJJ guy control the standing tie ups...unless the wrestler were very novice.

[@pahwraith]

Lmao, I train Illinois and half the kids in my gym are from Minnesota, Wisconsin, iowa, Kansas and etc. I haven't yet found an effective strategy to take them down. I grab a single, let them sprawl and I get my half guard haha.

[@ebach687]

Why are y’all acting like this isn’t already wrestling ?

[@scottmartin7743]

A grappler would use a wizzer to stop this take down

[@blank1blank249]

How wrestlers can beat bjj. Pick them up than proceed to slam them to the ground. Will work unless bjj say let's play with rules and regulations.

[@arifmemovic3383]

Have you ever seen an MMA fight? There is plenty of footage of people getting picked up and slammed and winning still pulling a submission.

[@dustinlerch9272]

It’s like fire, can’t beat it with anything else.

[@t.baggins4154]

I had to roll with a wrestler a few days ago. Made me want to quit BJJ forever. I had nothing for him & we’re both white belts. Honestly I think it’s unfair that he’s a white belt. An experienced wrestler will annihilate a white belt.

[@stupidandboot4507]

It's good for your jiu jitsu. When you roll with pure bjj guys you'll find it a lot easier and be thankful that you had wrestlers as training partners

[@jamaalhoward4075]

How about if the kid just learns how to wrestle?

[@kallepikku4991]

That's just too difficult for kids these days. Hard work and learning are soO 2000.

[@FrontiersOfTheFuture]

@@kallepikku4991 They will end up learning some wrestling anyways. This is just to tide them over and survive white/blue belt.

[@rexflexington3850]

You have to respect wrestling more.

[@brianrice1613]

Why do you justify saying that someone should work on their guard more if it sucks but not work on their takedowns if they suck? You don't give an alternative to guard but you do give a to takedowns...

[@aliqatishat3790]

I don't think he's saying not to work on takedowns, I think he's showing what to do against someone who is a lot better at takedowns

[@bubblex1jhewt130]

He likes to scoot on his but. He was probably a shit wrestler.

[@iFlowWithTheGo]

This is probably the best BJJ channel. Awesome stuff 👍

[@gmuel87]

How tall are each of these guys?

[@jkranites]

This is kinda funny. Cause that move is more catch then BJJ. But what do I know

[@ironsurvival7011]

jkranites it’s all grappling bro.

[@DriveCarToBar]

Not a single mention of conditioning. When I wrestled, a huge part of it was keeping up the pressure. Because you're going for the takedowns and the pin, you're going full out the entire time. Compared to wrestling, jiu jitsu is slow and methodical. It's just a difference in the style, especially since wrestling is more of a pure sport vs. BJJ that was developed more with combat in mind and moved into being a sport. Not knocking BJJ in any sense either, I'm just pointing out what I see as differences. Anyway, wrestlers are constantly going full speed and looking to takedown the other guy who is working just as hard to get you down. Takedowns are worth points and points win matches. Wrestlers get a lot of their conditioning from simply rolling a lot. The strong backs and iron hips come from constantly busting ass in practice. It's fighting fit, so to speak. Your conditioning has to be good, because you're going full blast for your entire match. The wrestler likes to be on top because it allows them to press that advantage of constant pressure and fast pace that lots of BJJ players aren't used to. One thing I noticed in going from wrestling and trying out BJJ is that a BJJ player has an entire library of techniques that can take advantage of a wrestler trying to escape. Especially if the wrestler is wearing shoes. A heel hook can catch a wrestler out more often than you might think. Collegiate wrestlers simply don't train for that sort of thing very much, because an escape isn't something you're specifically guarding against. If your technique is good, escape isn't really all that likely. And if you do lose them and they escape, it's far more important to get reset to avoid the reversal. This all has to happen fast, because as soon as they escape, they want the reversal. You need to get defensive to avoid getting taken. A BJJ player is far more relaxed and capable of extending that scramble for it to come out in their favor. Especially since submissions are OK in BJJ vs. how you have to win in a wrestling match.

[@stephenmartinez4203]

How is he able to do that to wrestlers? He pretty much had him in a modified collar tie

[@kylethekidable]

I'm curious how many skilled wrestlers the standing setup works on. I only say that because that's 90% of the way to a bulldog throw and not many versed wrestlers will let you anywhere near that, not unless you have the strength to out grapple him into the position.

[@daveforrester7743]

Great video...but those shorts and rashies are fire dude...

[@genghiskhan7041]

Just an observation: if you put your head inside my arm (3:19 in the video), I'd immediately pop my hips to the side (roughly 90 degrees from your head, same position as a standard hip toss) and attempt a headlock to throw you on the side opposite of your head. Hopefully that makes sense, it's pretty hard describing wrestling moves without being able to demonstrate. Come to think of it, why don't I ever see headlocks in MMA? Seems like they'd be great for choking people out (without the arm in).

[@smotbs]

My question is what do I do because I’m in a grade we’re I’m wrestling people who are stronger than me and they hit puberty while I didn’t . What do I do?

[@willfotwenty7469]

In wrestling when you first start you do a drill called billy goat drills where you’d mash your forehead against another wrestlers and fight for head positioning and in the process you build calluses on your forehead turning it into a hammer being the final tool to knock down the opponent

[@willfotwenty7469]

It sucks so much your forehead is red and in pain but after like 1 week you stop feeling continuous pain after 2 no feeling after a month you get calluses it honestly is a cheat

[@willfotwenty7469]

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