Chi Sau - Robert Vogel

[@homelanderthe7icandowhatev466]

Very few people concentrate on clean Phoon Sao. You can clearly see the tension and direction of pressure in you and your partner in the elbow tension. Top! Definitely a recommendable school for you.

[@NihonJujutsu]

☯️☯️☯️Excellent Chi Sao 🙏🏼

[@Viewpoint314]

From 1977 until 1996 Robert trained in Wang Kiu's Wing-Chun (Yip Man -> Wang Kiu -> Robert Vogel Sr. -> Robert Vogel Jr), & received his teachers degree. 1997 -> Present Robert g

[@Aniontedone]

Wang kui linage excellent!!!

[@Aniontedone]

Master Wong Shung Lueng linage. Excellent!!!!!!

[@Viewpoint314]

and also Wang Kiu lineage

[@Viewpoint314]

Leung Yee Tai > Dr. Leung Jan (Leung Tak Wing) > Leung Bik > Ip Man 葉問 (Yip Gai-Man) > Wang Kiu > Robert Vogel Sr.

[@reneroozendaal5493]

Lekker jong bekkie! 😊

[@D33pSpace-y8p]

0.03 you do your palm too low your partner will not practise jum sau properly in fact why even practise it when the stimulus is not there ? the basics dan chi sau, fan sau etc have to be correct for the form to function,

[@RobertVogelWingChun]

I appreciate the analysis but this is deliberate. To practice a jum sao one has to sink his/her elbow and this definitely stimulates it. If you make a high palm attack you don't practice the sinking motion of the elbow. A good powerful low attack and your elbow will get off center if not practiced this.

[@sipscl]

@D33... and @Robert... I'd say you're both right - Sifu David Peterson (a very well-known, long-time WSL student) explains that there are two types of jum-sau: the one with a lowering elbow, which goes slightly backwards and downwards when pressure is applied, and the jam-sau, which goes more actively forward when the attack gets higher...