Chicago Fire Department O’Hare Plane Crash, Cook County Busse Woods Grove 26, Elk Grove Village, IL

[@Redlivesmatter91]

Pretty cool to see half of O’Hara fire department is there. Seeing them coming from the airport to buses woods. Lots of sirens 🚨

[@oldtimerboxproductions837]

What is the old squad 7 used for now

[@emergencyresponsevideosand4423]

Hazmat stuff, like plane crashes and big hazmat spills beyond the capabilitys of all hazmats

[@firechaser2010]

​@emergencyresponsevideosand4423 where do you get this information from because it's all wrong

[@firechaser2010]

Squad 7's old pierce is a spare for Squad 7 and 7A. In this case, 7A was using the spare. Hence the name Squad 7S. S meaning spare

[@TheAngryFishh]

What's truck 635 in the beginning used for?

[@user-zm1sc1hk4x]

That’s Chicago O’Hare Fire Mobile Staircase Unit. Pulls up to plane doors.

[@TheAngryFishh]

@user-zm1sc1hk4x that's what I thought but why would it go to this incident?

[@user-zm1sc1hk4x]

It’s part of the plane crash response plan.

[@rearspeaker6364]

must be for tree crashes!!

[@nccody73]

​@@rearspeaker6364☠️

[@thomaswilliamson5951]

Why so many fire trucks and a airport truck with a stairway on it what would they used that for a crash site too many firetrucks that an overkill to me .

[@rearspeaker6364]

this must be only 7% of what's available at the airport, from what the comments section has noted.

[@mattshepherd9443]

The Stairway would be used if it was an actual O'hare plane like a Boeing or something like that so, they could get the Passengers off the plane safely

[@jimmybolf2001]

You got a page or an insta bro where you post your pics?

[@user-zm1sc1hk4x]

Not yet

[@davehanna2081]

Did the souls onboard survive ?

[@user-zm1sc1hk4x]

Yes it’s reported that it was carrying cargo and only 1 pilot and that pilot made it out alive.

[@rollandfitch5473]

The Black over Red Engine is Schaumburg FD

[@troyhall4039]

Two questions, was that a red mini pumper and I thought the o’hare duties crew wears tan bunker gears

[@user-zm1sc1hk4x]

@@troyhall4039 That little Fire Unit was Elk Grove Village Fire Department Squad 7.

[@ritirons2726]

Serious question: How many O’Hare apparatus remained at the airport? The reason I ask is depending on an airport’s index, specific numbers of ARFF vehicles must be available for the airport to remain operational. This a lot of apparatus outside the airport

[@user-zm1sc1hk4x]

I would say Chicago Fire, Police and Aviation Security did a excellent job they had confrontation of a plane crash by the control tower and they rushed to the crash scene in hopes of saving life. Now these are real true heroes. What a story and the pilot made it out alive.

[@user-zm1sc1hk4x]

In addition Chicago Fire Department has some of the most experienced firefighters in the world so before you question them question yourself what qualifications do you have to judge the worlds most experienced firefighters?? Ask yourself if you can see look yourself in the mirror.

[@ritirons2726]

Maybe you should re-read my comment. If you find the part where I question the response or firefighting capabilities of the CFD, please let me know. If you find any part in which I disagree with the response to this incident, please point that out as well. The are a number of ARFF requirements set by the FAA (part 139 if that matters) that need to be adhered to at airports that provide air carrier services. Some of them are the number of units available, the type of units, the staffing levels, the training levels of the staff, extinguishing agents available, extinguishing devices that can be used, distances to be traveled and the times at which those points must be reached. The list goes on and on, but I don’t feel like standing in front of the mirror any longer. If these requirements can’t be maintained, the airport’s operations may need to be adjusted. For instance, the mid sized airport where I am has 3 ARFF units. Only 1 is permitted to leave the airport property at any point. If all the units are need for an incident, the carrier service must be suspended until appropriate resources are established. So I’ll ask my question again and re-word it so hopefully it makes it easier for you to understand. There is a large response to this incident. How many ARFF units remained at the airport? In other words, a whole bunch of big yellow trucks went to the plane crash, were there any more big yellow trucks protecting the airport? If so how many? Did O’Hare have to make any adjustments to the in/outbound flights? Or did everything continue to operate as normal without disruption? So again, I post this as a SERIOUS QUESTION. But please try and provide serious answers and avoid the childish finger pointing.

[@PTRRanger951]

There was plenty of apparatus still at the field. They have more apparatus than most airports larger than them. This is a small response. They have 3 stations at the field. And a total of 8 ARFF rigs alone at just that airport. They have. “4th” station at the radio shop that has the 8th rig. Then they have regular front line apparatus and ambulances. You were actually questioning the response by saying it was a lot of the airport units there, and asking how much was left at the field. I am pretty sure they are fully aware and know what they can send and what they can’t. And regardless of what was sent, could have been every piece at the field if needed. They can just close the airport to aircraft or reduce operations depending on what available. There is nothing that says the apparatus MUST remain at the airport. Like the example you gave about your airport. I guarantee you if they had a crash with fire off the grounds in a large plane, one truck will not be able to handle it. They would send two or all three, and shut down the airport if needed. Because getting the fire out and attempting rescue is more important that flights landing or taking off. They just only allow one out by policy because it’s not that common they will have a large aircraft on fire off the property so they don’t have to worry about it.

[@ritirons2726]

@@PTRRanger951 thank you for that answer. In a crash requiring all apparatus to leave, yes, we would completely divert all carriers to another nearby airport that is capable of the larger aircraft, which is approximately 30 miles away.

[@PaulRosland]

That’s so cool friend how’d you know this was happening? How’d you even get on scene and get so close to them like that?

[@alarmoffice711]

Awesome

[@nathanmeece9794]

Looks like every airport fire truck was at the crash location m

[@binky8501]

OVERKILL

[@MagnumOpusSRT]

King air pilot ran out fuel. Make sure there are too many fire trucks.

[@stevenpivornik9982]

Are some of those units from the Chicago-land area?

[@user-zm1sc1hk4x]

Yes

[@tomlorenzen4062]

​@@user-zm1sc1hk4xsays Chicago on literally everything.?.

[@mattshepherd9443]

All of them are

[@johnpotts8719]

All that for a Beech super king? I wonder what would have been sent for a 737?

[@rearspeaker6364]

lets hope we never have to find out............

[@user-zm1sc1hk4x]

That happened in 1979 American Airlines Flight 191 crashed northwest of O’Hare you can see the response on KZbin.

[@AHomelessDorito]

They send the same amount of trucks no matter the size of the aircraft in case they got wrong information about what type of plane crashed. Better to be over prepared than under when Chicago has so many firefighters and trucks to spare.

[@EricWhiteTheGamer]

Okay a lot of ARRF, but more interesting no brush on standby, that could have easily turned into a 3 alarm brush call if it was to go in flames. That is just me overthinking how I would have responded if I were in charge of response planning.

[@xheralt]

This is a highly urbanized zone, in the Chicago metropolitan area; they don't really have brush units. Regular rigs suffice because there are always access roads.

[@CPR12345]

I do not know what the full response was, but it’s possible that you just did not see any brush trucks in this short video. Many suburbs in the area, including Elk Grove Village where this happened, definitely have them. Chicago FD does not have brush trucks.

[@AHomelessDorito]

The arff trucks act as brush trucks in our very urban area. There are multiple hydrant points in this forest preserve.

[@stevesanchez7421]

They had to be boarded the reason all those airports fire truck responded to that little plane with no fire at that lol

[@tomlorenzen4062]

A absolute complete waste of money for such a small plane. Ridiculous

[@user-zm1sc1hk4x]

I would say Chicago Fire, Police and the Aviation Security did a great job. Personally I say better then anyone else they rushed to save lives on confirmations of a plane crash.

[@tomlorenzen4062]

@@user-zm1sc1hk4x Nonsense

[@user-zm1sc1hk4x]

In addition Chicago Fire Department has some of the most experienced firefighters in the world so before you question them question yourself what qualifications do you have to judge the worlds most experienced firefighters?? Ask yourself if you can see look yourself in the mirror.

[@EricWhiteTheGamer]

@@user-zm1sc1hk4x You know, you are the rudest person out there no need to reply to comments like this (multiple different people) who just like you and me are interested in emergency services and are asking good questions because they are CURIOUS NOT JUDGING. Sure, some like this comment might not be appropriate, but it was also a lot of money wasted given that half those trucks could not do anything. Sure it is part of the response policy, sure unlike normal fire trucks they can not slow down or cancel units, and sure they might not know for sure the aircraft type but a stair unit, 4 crashes, and a tower, that was a lot, I could see maybe one or two crash, one rescue, and the engines and I guess maybe the tower but the rest could not do much. All the others would only be able to do something if a brush fire broke out. Granted I am stunned by only one ambulance and no brush units.

[@jamessimms415]

If you were one of the occupants, would you want a minimal response when every second counted & time wasted calling in additional equipment?

[@BLAB-it5un]

This response seems to be hopelessly out of proportion especially given the lack of access. All those huge ARFF trucks cannot get anywhere near the wreck. And the stair truck? Really? I get it that they respond initially in case they are needed and that this brings man power and equipment to the scene but as others have said this seems to have compromised staffing remaining at the airport. Looking back it appears just the heavy rescue and a crew would have been enough.

[@user-zm1sc1hk4x]

What qualifications are you basing your statement on ? Chicago did a excellent job the best I say they came with the proper response plan for a plane crash. These folks of Chicago that responded are true hero’s. Very odd that heroes are being questioned about there actions.

[@user-zm1sc1hk4x]

In addition Chicago Fire Department has some of the most experienced firefighters in the world so before you question them question yourself what qualifications do you have to judge the worlds most experienced firefighters?? Ask yourself if you can see look yourself in the mirror.

[@BLAB-it5un]

@@user-zm1sc1hk4x Classic arrogant response. I know I am not a trained "expert" but what in the world gives you the ability to make such an absurd claim that Chicago has the world's most experienced firefighters? What a ridiculous thing to say. What makes someone experienced is entirely subjective. And I was speculating as to the rationale and the timing. I think it is perfectly reasonable to question the delivery of so many ARFF vehicles and a stair truck to a crash of a small aircraft and I freely acknowledged that it is very normal to over-respond until the situation is assessed which is likely what happened here. And you ignored the question I and others are asking legitimately - what was the coverage level that remained at the airport? You presume that all proper coverages and protocols were met but you offer no proof other than presuming excellence means guaranteed execution. And you may be right. But the truth remains that this excellence is learned cumulatively by learning from mistakes. Anecdotally it looks like this response was overkill and that procedural lessons might be learned. That's all. Try to engage in a dialog rather than hurling insults. "World's most experienced firefighters"..thanks for the good laugh though.

[@user-zm1sc1hk4x]

I back the actions 110 percent of the Chicago Fire Department. These heroes deserve respect and beyond for the outstanding work they do everyday more like every minute.

[@jamessimms415]

@@BLAB-it5un. You’re a fire response ‘expert’ how? Please lay out your ‘qualifications’ for everyone to see.