Chickens, Pigs, Sheep, LGD: Livestock and Grazing System Update PART II

[@tara_a_santiago]

When you called the sheep to move them and Blue popped up too, I could see a whole new dog... He's found his place to work and protect the herd. I'm glad that he has taken a turn for the better. The Glucosamine is excellent to help with stiffness. He needs a little essential oil necklace to keep the flies off though he doesn't seem to be bothered by them much. Great update!

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

which oils do you recommend?

[@tara_a_santiago]

The Grass-fed Homestead ...For our dog we do a spray because she isn't outside a whole ton, but I make her a spray of 5oz cooled boiled water, you can just use distilled if you have it on hand though, 1/2 teaspoon of witch hazel, 15 drops of Melaleuca and 15 drops of Lavender. I use it on both my dog and US when out in the garden and it keeps everything away including mosquitos, gnats, flies. You can pick up a small essential oil necklace that you put the mixture in and hang from the collar, and it omits the scent and keeps things off, You would probably need to refill every few days, once the mixture is made it stays for weeks in a stainless sprayer. You could also just use the spray daily in the morning. I mist a few sprays over her body and two on her underside and I only have to apply every other day or so. She is t out 24 hours though, so maybe twice a day spraying for Blue. There are many different spray combos, but this one seems to work the best for us. 😀

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

:) Thanks Tara!!

[@joanhendrix5967]

The Grassfed Homestead- check out Mountain Rose Herbs for oils. Mary Jane's Farm loves them, so me too. Also they have recipes on a blog that may help. So glad Blue is beginning to thrive!

[@lalewin699]

I saw a big difference too. He seemed much happier. Sans camera, lol!

[@imogenethomas1138]

Glad Blue had improved so much! I never met a dog I didn't love, but working dogs are the best.

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

:)

[@sonyagregory5711]

Yea! Blue! You are the bomb! Glad you're keeping him. Watch and see, Blue will be worth it. He will be like Old Yeller, and be the best dog you'll ever have! Those piglets are just to cute to handle! Bet you sell every one of them! Great Vid! JOURNEY ON!

[@jeanettewaverly2590]

You guys are doing a fantastic job! You had the nerve to dive into homesteading head-first, and it's sure paying off. Blue does look a lot better -- Thanks for hanging in there with him. The piglets are a scream. :)

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

:) Thank you!

[@katrinar9310]

Oh yiegh! Blue looks so much better and happier in this video. Great job guys! -katrina

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

Thanks Katrina!

[@raeperonneau4941]

I think Blue needs a puppy to train. ;-) You guys are awesome for letting him continue to do his job.

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

Thank you Rae. We're looking into that for next year

[@raeperonneau4941]

The Grass-fed Homestead I think you, and Blue, will not only find that you're all happy, but the dogs will be highly productive as a duo.

[@carolv8450]

Blue looks great! Nice u r keeping him and he is doing his job. He looked happy in that herd of animals!!

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

indeed!

[@oceanluv88]

good for Blue! it's amazing what a little love and TLC can do.

[@brambleberrycreekhomestead6883]

I am so glad you kept Blue...he needed the right owner and he is going to be very loyal to you! I am so glad he looks amazing!

[@HeartinessApproach]

We were planning on getting piglets and we rent 5 acres in the country but our landlord does not want any large animals on the land. We are rethinking our lease. We have layers, broilers, and turkeys but we know the benefit of blending all the animals. Thank you for sharing about Blue. Good Dogs are ..... well good.

[@lanedouglas2165]

Thanks for the update. Happy to see Blue improving. My black lab barks at the UPS truck. He was lying at my feet when I watched the video. He jumped up and barked when he heard the truck on your video. Then Blue barked, he stopped. Dog language!

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

haha! That is funny! If only we could interpret

[@juliebeal8574]

Those piggies are so CA-UTE!!! And I cried a little when I saw how much better Blue looks. It's SUCH a difference! :) Penny's all like, "No. Just no. Move along.." LOL

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

:)

[@imaslowlerner]

So glad to hear that blue is working out for you. A dog like blue is priceless, the breeder did you a big favor getting you a dog that's just right for your farm.

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

I agree. He's exactly what we needed. It just took a little while to get there

[@heavenscenthomestead4242]

Love Blue....especially him peeking around the corner of the shelter. Nice update. Very interesting.

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

:) thank you

[@105cathy]

I see Blue! He looks great!

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

:)

[@dc0145a]

Blue looks so much happier; your love and patience are definitely working.

[@laurawilkinson6114]

It was really good to see Blue acting happy!! When you called the sheep to go to the new pasture area, he seemed excited to me! He looks MUCH better now. (Now to get him over being in front of the camera!) Good job!

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

Thank you Laura! We'll keep working on his camera shyness ;)

[@scuzzbecuzz]

Great news about blue! Thanks

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

you bet!

[@BelindaTN]

I noticed right away how much more relaxed and content Blue is now. I am so glad, you have done amazing with him. I have an older dog with arthritis too. And I also saw Improvement with a Glucosamine Chondroitin MSM supplement (Cosequin DS). It has done so well, that I am tempted to use it myself. lol My dog is still stiff and gets around kinda slow, but has his active moments, but he is 11 years old. The Cosequin DS has made a difference.

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

I'd get the human version though just in case ;)

[@BelindaTN]

Yea. You are probably right. Love that shade shelter you can just drag around from field to field.

[@MrHandoverfist]

you put up such a GREAT Part one..i enjoyed it So Much...i look forward to all your videos now...when i started it was more like i came because i was seeing stuff about LGD....i stayed because of you filming style and "way" you tell the story of the journey....you have a LOT of compassion for the animals and I appreciate that....#LOVE and God Bless..kat/ak

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

thank you for the feedback! I'm glad you stayed around :)

[@onedazinn998]

Well everyone already commented exactly how I feel about Blue! :)) When this video ended I had alot of joy & a smile knowing he was feeling better and looking like a happy dog...you can always tell happy dogs they pant "smile" big and he popped up wagging his tail at the whistle ;)) Great job nursing him and being patient.

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

thank you :)

[@thelearninghomestead3266]

Love the instant whistle response when it was time to move.

[@ellermanmateo3453]

It's so nice to see the little piglets doing well!:)

[@1aredhel127]

Bravo Blue! And good job keeping up with his issues. Your farm looks nice.

[@that.schamp]

Yay for a happy status update! Our Pyr was just a year old and in excellent health when she left her farm for the first time to come to live with us. It still took her a month to get over the stress of leaving her home, learn to trust us, and adapt to her new one. It was about three weeks in before we were woken up in the middle of the night to cheer her first territorial barks. About the same time, she started petting us back. Now, six months later, she is curled up at my feet, getting a good days sleep out of the summer heat.

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

I'm glad that worked out for you guys. It's after 10pm and I hear Blue barking right now. Music to my ears :)

[@SansaStarkofWinterfell]

You could also try giving Blue some bone broth as well, which aides humans, it might help him with his "stiffness". Bone broth helps with joint stiffness. Just soften his food with it or give him a dish of it a couple times a week. =) 🌱Be Blessed ღ 🌼

[@ladywnn]

Excellent idea

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

good idea - thank you

[@christiebetts4970]

Mini Georgian Homestead I was wondering if this would be good for my pyr mix pup,because of the rapid bone growth in a large breed dog

[@mrs.garcia6978]

I can totally see the healthy grass regrowing. My chicken tractor does that too I LOVE seeing where they've been the week before.

[@ncooty]

Thanks for this update, Dan. Super happy to see Blue feeling his oats and to hear that you'd worked out a reasonable contingency plan with the breeder. Seems like everything turned out as well as all had hoped it would. By the way, in case you haven't done so already, it seems as though you might soon be past the point of being able to take good "before" land-condition photos, soil samples, etc.

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

I do need to get on the soil samples. I have plenty of untouched places from which to draw a baseline. Thanks for the reminder

[@dawgbruh6973]

So happy to hear Blue is doing well......if you ever need another let me know...farm dog.

[@welshharlequin7722]

so happy!

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

do you breed LGDs?

[@ChicagoCFH]

Blue looks happy! this makes me happy!

[@epapes730]

I'm so glad Blue is doing better! He couldn't ask for a better homestead to protect and owners to take care of him. He just needed the other dog to remind him how to be a dog again :)

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

:)

[@sethjones5078]

Thanks for the updates

[@TheKristenGibson]

Blue is looking great!

[@Avilacrazy]

One strong male Blue Heeler with a female Blue Heeler really do a perfect guardian job for us in Central Texas, where we have a ton of coyotes.

[@funfedfrugal4335]

glad blu is doing much better :)

[@MrHandoverfist]

7:10 I WAS SO THRILLED TO SEE Blue Burst on the Scene with the Girls! He Looks Like he is really happy to do what you ask to the Best of His Ability....Do You feed him raw meaty bones ever? Might Help His Stiffness...HE IS ADORABLE!

[@PartTimePermies]

the piglets are so cute!

[@karenmacgyver2314]

Oh my gosh how time flies ...!!!

[@joansmith3492]

Glad to see Blue up and wagging his tail and hearing how well he is doing! Looks like a happy homestead! And Clara is the cutest! Did anyone know what kind of chicken that was?

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

A salmon faverolle - it is a french chicken

[@PartTimePermies]

My saint Bernard used to howl like a wolf whenever he heard the coyotes yipping nearby, then my dane would join in in harmony. I never heard our coyotes howl, but they sure yipped like puppies and our giants had amazing howls.

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

If you and Mike come for a visit you'll get to hear some coyote howling for sure

[@amyjohnson7834]

The Grass-fed Homestead our coyotes howl every time the train whistles at night

[@rhondamontiel3827]

check on maybe using unflavored gelatin for Blue's joints. It is working great for me

[@unorthodoxmolossers4860]

Rhonda Montiel yes!! I used it for my dog.

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

cool - thanks

[@my_freelance_life]

Blue may be afraid of the camera because it is being held in your hand above the level if his head. See if he has the same reaction if the camera is on a tripod. It may even help if the tripod is set up by itself in his field so that he can see that it poses no threat.

[@ChickaWoofRanch]

Our dogs are not fond of the SLR camera either and are "ok" with our phone as a camera but they are weary of all new/foreign things. LGDs are not fond of "change" (in our experience). Desensitizing will probably be the key.

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

I might try the phone next time I film with him to see if it helps

[@rezyness]

Blue looks good! I've supplemented my LGDs with glucosamine chondroitin for dogs

[@goldencroaker9718]

The dog looks good!

[@patriciaconnaghan6877]

Simeon and his family have be homesteading for years and are really nice people. Just maybe check it out?

[@pamelastansbury1407]

You can try apple cider vinegar with the mother in it......it helps our collie...good for almost everything including inflammation.....sometimes switching these over the counter things up occasionally will help. Good luck...I think Blue has a great owner and a lot of love!

[@PeterSedesse]

Something I read from Joel Salatin is that he basically moves his chickens behind his grazers. So the chickens are in yestedays sheep spot. The big reason for this is the huge amount of insects in the sheep manure that will account for a lot of the calories the chickens need.

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

Joel moves the chickens 4 days behind the cows. Sooner than 4 days and the maggots aren't hatched yet. They don't follow the chickens behind the sheep at Polyface because sheep don't deposit huge patties. They are scattered pellets and don't benefit as much from chickens

[@PeterSedesse]

Thank you for the info

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

you're welcome

[@NaturesCadenceFarm]

Hooray Blue. So glad he is doing better and you are keeping him! Although breeder did the right thing business wise, given Blue's original condition, I hope you go somewhere else for future puppies. On a different note...I would like to put Clara in my pocket and carry all of that cuteness around with me! 🐖👍

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

She's getting too big for pockets now! She is growing rapidly now that she is on the goat milk. I know what you mean though.

[@amyjohnson7834]

One of your viewers was right! Blue just needed another dog to get over his blues!

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

and thankfully, it is a dog that we don't have to buy, feed, walk etc!

[@lauraflasch7749]

Do you have contact with Patera @ Appalachian Homestead or with Art and Bri? I mention them because they both use herbal sprays for flies on their homesteads. I think it would help Blue and the rest of your animals. I am glad to see the improvement in Blue.

[@lilspooky614]

Have u maybe considered getting another live stock dog

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

yes

[@albanymtnlife]

I did notice blue perked up when you moved the sheep to new pasture...seems he also wants to be loved on, but the camera seems to bother him...just needs time to adjust...

[@MG956_]

Old breeder dog is stiff from hips from all that thrusting he was doing at the puppy mill..

[@RobinRK1962]

Of all the dogs we've had on the farm over the years only a few ever cared for the camera, most were like Blue... no paparazzi plz.

[@andrewmcdonald7077]

Will your Akbash stay inside that 3 foot fence, albeit electrified?

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

yes

[@mrs.garcia6978]

What was Fiji's deal? Worm load? Or just time to wean?

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

Old - time to wean

[@bryanthughes5799]

Where can I get a similar hat like yours?

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

sunbody dot com

[@MargaretWalkerCellist]

Yeah, but Blue is poking his head around the tent and when he sees you talking to the camera, he backs off behind stage again: he's funny. Blue, you're cool!

[@new2countrylife272]

I've never raise livestock b4. Which low maintenance goats n sheep would you recommend?

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

goats are difficult. Katahdin sheep are a good homesteading breed

[@new2countrylife272]

The Grass-fed Homestead thank you

[@lovetoworshiphim1]

@@TheGrassfedHomestead why are goats difficult? I am hoping to homestead one day ... am beginning the research process...appreciate any info you can give me....enjoying your videos... informational... yet personal... well done.

[@autumnskyes5633]

Glad to hear you stuck it out with Blue and let him work himself out of the funk he was in. LGD dogs have a job to do sure... but dogs are dogs and they still form a bond with their owners. If they did not they would not let us near our live stock either as I see it. We are their pack and the livestock is the job. I'm sure he felt a lot of betrayal by his first owner (breeder) and lost heart at first. Blue will come around as long as he knows you have his best interests at heart. Our Aries, and American Pit Bull has worked my small farm for years and is invaluable when it comes to watching out for our kids when the does give birth. However he is still family and when he comes to retirement he will earn a spot by our woodstove with us.

[@brianphilbrook5262]

Glad he's improved. How's all those weeds you had before? Did you get rid of them?

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

ha! No, the bracken fern still haunts me. The knappweed was being grazed when it was young and tender but now the sheep won't eat it since it has gotten woody. The tansy is stunted by the sheep though and the hawk weed is being destroyed by the sheep. Improvement over last year but the bracken is laying claim to almost 80% of our property. It has put a kink in the grazing plan for sure

[@brianphilbrook5262]

The Grass-fed Homestead yikes the battle continues lol. I wonder if you could do controlled burns on that bracken fern.

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

it makes it worse. Bracken is the first thing that emerges after a fire. The roots are unharmed by the heat but all the competitors get burned out.

[@tradcathomestead8179]

Dan, have you heard of an implement called the "brakenbruiser"? They use them mostly in the UK, pulled behind an ATV, and they smash the fern fronds. Supposed to be way more effective than mowing, and I know you don't want to spray. The idea is that the plant expends a bunch of energy reserves trying to repair the damage so it loses vitality and gives other plants a chance to compete better. They look like a miniature roller/crimper like what Gabe Brown and a lot of other folks use to knock back their covercrops before planting their cash crop. Basically a big drum with fins on it so that it smashes the stems and kills the plants without cutting or mowing leaving a nice residual behind. Something like that might be a good first step in a multi-step strategy to get the braken knocked back.

[@brianphilbrook5262]

The Grass-fed Homestead I went searching through some books I have and I found in Jerry Bakers book Supermarket Super Gardens an extra strength weed killer. It says "This potent formula is tailor made for tackling the toughest weeds in your yard- like those deep rooted perennials that just keep coming back... and coming back... and coming back. 1qt. of water 5tbsp. of white vinegar 2tbsp. of salt Bring the water to a boil, then stir in the vinegar and salt. While the liquid is still boiling or as close to it as possible, pour it directly on the weeds. Keep this potion away from plants you want to save or it will kill them along with the weeds." Might be worth trying maybe in a backpack sprayer. No deadly chemicals it'd be nasty tasting but it wouldn't hurt you or the animals.

[@michaelripperger5674]

Was blue a rescue ? How long have you had him ?

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

We bought him from a breeder in April. The breeder had him his whole life prior

[@AmerijamAcres]

Have you considered putting some layers with your sheep. Ben Falk does that and has really good result. He mentioned how one of the sheep he had died a few weeks after selling it because the chickens kept some of the insects under control. As soon as they were no longer with the sheep they got out of control and killed the sheep. Not suggesting you have that issue just wondering if you had any plans of putting a few chickens in with the sheep.

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

No, the chickens come in behind the sheep. They don't share a paddock. I don't want my sheep eating chicken feed. There are ways to go about keeping the sheep from the chickens' food but it is more trouble than it is worth. Ben had issues with fly strike which is an issue for wool sheep. I have mostly hair sheep so it is very little threat to my flock.

[@AmerijamAcres]

The Grass-fed Homestead just wondering. I know Ben does it. Was wondering how he handles it. I have seen him explain that. Just talked about how that sheep was helped by having the chickens together

[@HiddenMeadowFarm]

I know that it doesn't really matter, but I'm curious to what your neighbors think of your farm and farming techniques?

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

They are annoyed with me that I don't spray my weeds.

[@HiddenMeadowFarm]

The Grass-fed Homestead lol

[@albanymtnlife]

The Grass-fed Homestead I'm not sure I understand why? it seems weeds are inevitable, even when speays are used... since spraying them regularly is a must, how is this bothering them?

[@6996katmom]

You need to mix up some fly spray that Bri does for Dolly. Blue is an awesome dog. It is hard to move a dog from the home that they have known for so long and send them somewhere else. Puppies are ok, but older dogs, like Blue, don't take to moving to all new surroundings very good.

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

Yeah, I need to do that.

[@jacobduquette9783]

I'm sure another dog would make him so much happier

[@jonathanbecker8935]

So great that Blue has improved up to this point. That breeder should've bestowed a free dog upon you anyway for taking on Blue and nursing home back to health. So sooo glad to hear that he offered at least on the retiring Blue option and keeping as a pet, had that been necessary! Either he's got ethics or he realized he would've become public enemy#1 in the breeder category on social media if he didn't offer to take good care of you and Blue. At least the internet is good for something, lol. I'm curious to know if Blue has papers to indicate his exact age? He does look a tad older than six y/o. I guess the vet was able to give you a good idea of where he was at age wise anyway.

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

I did get papers. He was born January 2011 so he's 9.5 now

[@manarrahall3792]

Anyone know how many acres he has??

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

we have 10 acres

[@manarrahall3792]

The Grass-fed Homestead wow thanks so much for the reply......love the videos they have inspired me to venture on my own. Thank you thank you

[@vickiulrich6694]

Too precious. I have to say that I would have a hard time naming animals knowing that they are being raised for harvest. I would choke at the time of harvest and have far too many pets on the homestead. But I will say that your animals are just to precious!

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

the ones that have names are not for harvest. We have several unnamed animals for that reason.

[@ricoooooooo]

Put some peppermint oil on Blues head or collar to keep the flys off. Great videos though.

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

thank you!

[@baileymalphus860]

Hey bailey

[@FrankGutowski-ls8jt]

That handsome pooch still looks as lethargic as can be. Hope he continues to improve.

[@sarahscrew12]

good old blue

[@MrHandoverfist]

so the other thing i want to tell you about that could help blue... i was on a kibble diet with my 4 dogs then i got the 2 LDG pups...now nearly 6m old...BOTH have had nothing but expensive vet visits weekly every other week...ear infections they never went away, CONSTANT meds for UI, rashes, limping, aches and pains with normal wear and tear and puppy play, vanginitus that would not go away...i researched and others with these dogs...mine are Pyrenees and anatolian sheppard...said they had all these issues and other musclulosketal issues..said it was the kibble.....i looked up the bloat issues...i mean lets think about it...dogs have not DE-VOLVED TO NO LONGER NEEDING A NATURAL DIET...kibble is NOT Natural....in nature they are scavengers and would eat small prey....eating raw MEATY bones does not make them want to kill either....it helps their dental which left unchecked feed ill health and disease and for a working dog it is hard to be living with a rotting tooth....might cause a headache....my sister-in-law had one and she nearly died from it....so if humans dont let teeth JUST DIE...why would we do it to an animal that we expect to WORK or a loved pet? anyways...all the condroiton and glucosimine are found in the soft uncooked bones , tendons and legiments...it is what THEY NEED AND NEVEER GET....most ppl feed cheapest kibble...which is all quality contol left to food makers and it is WIDELY KNOWN that kibble has dead and diseased euthanized animals in the feed...and what ever it started out s ingredient wise is VERY DIMINISHED and so nutrition is less available in the cooked extruded kibble bits. i really HOPE THAT YOU WILL LOOK INTO ALL THIS INFO TO HELP BLUE or another dog....since they work and because you may get a pet and you have easy access to food they NEED. please keep updating.

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

I give Blue an expensive kibble but I do give him some raw meat (including bones) when available. He sure does appreciate the bonus

[@MrHandoverfist]

REALLY! COOL!! Yeah...there is SURE some expensive kibble out there!! Blue IS LUCKY TO HAVE YOU!

[@johngritman4840]

Depending how long it takes to train a dog, I would be inclined to get another much younger dog. They become good companions of one another and the older will teach the younger. I'm not an expert in any way about dogs but I sure have observed them herd my grandchildren. My daughter had two malamutes, a lab and a Sammy. The Sammy taught the others how to herd. When my youngest granddaughter went to step down from the kitchen into the family room, the Malamute just lowered her shoulder and pushed her back into the kitchen to protect her from falling. Then came my grandson John Thomas. We would put him on a blanket in the middle of the family room at 3 to 4 months. The dogs made a square around him and as he fell asleep, they shrank the square to be sure he was warm. Later, Sarah took the Sammy out before bedtime. It was a starry night and she realized the Sammy was not doing anything. Looking she saw the Sammy had his jaws firmly affixed to the hind leg of a big buck. I asked her what she did: "Oh, he's trained to herd reindeer, one word "Off!", she let go and the buck was off in a flash." So, if you can afford it get Blue a younger companion; I think he will do most of the training.

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

We are considering training a replacement dog next year. We'll see how things go. Thanks John

[@crisitansardina9595]

might want to cross him into another lgd just thinking for the future and so he can start trying to teach younger dogs whats going on

[@michaelripperger5674]

Lgd's are funny. If they are not ok w something (ie the camera) they are just not ok w it. Nothing seems to make it right until they are ok with it.

[@patriciaconnaghan6877]

Just watched your journey with Blue and homesteading. Please check out Swedish Homestead on KZbin. They could help you.

[@audreyharlow5285]

I think blue needs a buddy💗💗

[@carolv8450]

Blue needs a puppy he can train and also for companionship...

[@tonibartling3844]

You should get a new puppy for him to train with him and watch over.

[@TeeTee6039]

Yeah Blue. I think he needs a partner 2nd dog

[@julymays9476]

is Maggie to be killed too? she seems like a good animal. would probably leave her for breeding

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

Maggie is being kept for breeding stock

[@demondevongirl666]

please trim his nails. having overgrown nails can affect how he puts pressure on his joints, causing more joint pain. nails shouldn't touch the ground when on a flat surface.

[@jacobduquette9783]

You should get a friend for blue even and you could get a cheaper breed of dog

[@thecynic807]

Blue needs a buddy

[@robertnoraas2636]

the pigs can be grass fed they are grazing hogs

[@welshharlequin7722]

You may have a hard time at butcher time, with all the snuggling-of-lambs....and pigs....and andand

[@TheGrassfedHomestead]

I only do that with the ones we're not raising for meat