CHIEF YAGAMI'S GAMBLE! | Death Note Couple Reaction | Ep 17, “Execution”

[@LettsReact]

Episodes 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, & 24 of Death Note posted to Patreon now!! HTTPS://Patreon.com/LettsReact ALSO Ep 1 of My Hero Academia!!

[@RubedoURTV666]

God, I hope y'all see this. Don't know if anyone has made it clear or if you've figured it out, but the entire point of this arc in the show is to illustrate just how much Light was corrupted by the Death Note. Like he says in the first episode, "There's something about the Death Note that makes humans want to try it at least once." I honestly believe the book does have a corrupting influence on people, but even if you don't believe that - this arc shows just how different Light would be if he never found (or lost forever) the Death Note :).

[@FizysVibin]

Please react to code geass

[@jameslopez4648]

It's great you picked up Death Note, but don't just stick to anime because you'll run into a lot of subpar shows. You guys should really expand and watch shows like The Sopranos.

[@SOA_yt]

Oh dang you’re already at 24? ….Well

[@اميرمادرا]

King

[@rjai5003]

Light went from “If she breathes she’s a thot” to “All women are queens”

[@THE3LEMONPUFF3PERSON]

LMAO SO TRUE 🤣

[@dr.vijayalakshmi6489]

Went from alpha to beta

[@ryanmcdevitt2966]

@@dr.vijayalakshmi6489 do y’all really talk like this in the actual real world lmao

[@luk6997]

@@ryanmcdevitt2966 they dont talk, people like this have no human interaction

[@randomcontent853]

​@@luk6997 Lmaooooo

[@Marta-uv4id]

Seeing Light so bright-eyed really sells the fact that he is someone else entirely from who we've seen thus far. We always see Light so calculated, so the animators really sell the fact that Light is a completely different person by animating his facial expressions and especially the eyes so differently.

[@GamerGrovyle]

Reminder that when Light found the Death Note he had basically given up on life. He was going to keep being the Honor Student, go to the school his parents wanted for him, become a civil servant and work until he died. The Death Note gave him a sense of purpose he never had before.

[@saltyk9869]

The voice actor is helping to sell it, too.

[@mrb1051]

montana thought that police officer got a heart attack at the end of the next episode but he was just crying haha

[@اميرمادرا]

I feel sad for girl thinks God she alive

[@Alphasmatic]

it's crazy that if light had actually shown more emotion and not been so calm infront of everyone prior to him being exposed as kira he would've gotten away with it

[@regrag2025]

Having an arc where Light legitimately believed he wasn’t Kira and wanted to catch him was such an interesting move for the story

[@Marta-uv4id]

Light "This is the first time in my life I've been provoked to hit a woman" Yagami turning into a feminist this episode might be the funniest thing to happen in Death Note.

[@jakobnunez4964]

I never thought about it before that's fucking hilarious.

[@LuisPereira-bn8jq]

In fairness, Light's desire to "hit a woman" had little to do with sexism. In many ways, Misa was exploiting Light just as much as Light was exploiting her, it's just that Misa actively deluded herself that what she was doing was fine. So as far as I'm concerned Kira Light is an equal opportunity psychopathic murderer, who'll trick and kill anyone regardless of gender, with no discrimination.

[@marenwithanm7091]

What owning a death note does to a guy 😔

[@Straga_Severa]

@@LuisPereira-bn8jq Yes, and also "manipulating the person's feelings" has nothing to do with feminism. According to "new" Light, to manipulate a man is wrong too - which is the correct cause, because otherwise it's just plain sexism.

[@mvmsma]

When did basic decency became feminism?

[@andrewkeshan8649]

This is why Light forfeiting ownership of the death note was a genius move. He was scared but he couldn't admit he was kira because he genuinely believed he wasn't Kira. This plan would have worked for L if Light hadn't forfieted ownership of the death note

[@mintchoco5640]

Nah, I don’t think it would have worked even if light was still Kira. How would light even have written in the death note while he was handcuffed

[@angelopeiris5440]

​@@mintchoco5640 I think he meant light would have panicked when his dad tried to shoot him if he hadn't forfieted ownership still had memories of him being kira. L would have noticed a different body language.

[@niomiscott8233]

I think light is too smart. He would have anticipated it

[@Alphasmatic]

The acting was superb from his father tho, when I first watched I believed it too, obviously I knew he was gonna somehow survive because of plot armour, he might've tried to talk his way out of it and then resorted to the deathnote

[@Lionimia]

@@mintchoco5640 Because Rem would have intervened since he said Misa would be taken to be executed right after and because of her love of Light. Rem would have intervened to save Light to make Misa happy. It also wouldn't have actually killed Rem either, but then the entire world would know Light was Kira.

[@Alyrael]

"Absolute power corrupts absolutely" is a saying for a reason.

[@kellynolen498]

Yeah he was just a young genius Helping the police with investigations as a kid Tennis champ Literally Perfect grades in every subject Attractive charismatic and intelligent Naturally he like many other young geniuses has an ego A superiority complex Not much of one he was beloved by his family and classmates and didn't act on it The factors that turned him evil are his young undeveloped sense of justice his boredom Life is easy for him he is just going through the motions

[@hi00118]

The dynamic between Light, Misa, and L is hilarious. One of the best parts of this portion of the story

[@coconyt3623]

Worthy of note that Light's honor code (not toying with a woman's emotions) only prevails now that he isn't active as Kira. During all of the earlier stuff, he was.

[@GCLU]

Side note: The car scene works better when you realize that Japan doesn't think about blanks being dangerous even though a blank that close is definitely dangerous and potentially deadly.

[@andrewli6606]

It's just to create drama. American media makes mistakes with guns in fiction all the time as well. It's not a uniquely Japanese media problem. It doesn't make sense to use blanks for two reasons. You've already pointed out that a blank at that range would probably still blow a hole in Light's head, but the second is that blanks are visually distinct from regular bullets and would be visible in the revolver cylinder. As a police chief's son, Light should probably know what regular bullets look like. The creators just wanted to create drama with the gunshot sound.

[@mutanthybrid3466]

Exactly, and as Andrew Li indicated, also not just a cultural issue, most movies have something that breaks with reality.

[@Rafaela_S.]

​@@andrewli6606 First of all we are talking about Japan, one of the countries with the strictest weapon regulations out there, most people there haven't seen a gun outside of movies, second of all, not all blanks are visible different, especially for such a stunt you would prepare a normal locking shell, in addittion if I remember right the one loaded shell is not visible, only the 5 others I think.

[@thedragonryder]

one of my favorite Death Note fanfic authors, TwilightMaster15, has written a couple different fanfics where Light is injured physically and psychologically by that blank. in one, titled A New Direction, the gunshot deafened him in one ear, and concussive blast from the shot practically blinded him. In the other, titled Speechless, the event was so traumatic that he becomes mute.

[@gaminganimators7000]

​@@thedragonryderthat's fun

[@doobzsalam1847]

Something I wish they kept in the show is that after light killed the first two he was a mess. Not going to school, not eating, not sleeping. I think knowing this adds to much, like maybe the reason light wanted to kill a second person after the first guy is because he wanted to prove to himself that he didn’t kill him out of guilt. I think light is so smart he was able to trick himself into believing he was right. And if you killed those two and it was the right thing to do then he should do more….otherwise he might start thinking he was wrong again.

[@BlueBlazeKing]

Like they sorta of go over it in episode 1 when he said he lost a few pounds and lacked sleep but it was a small mention. But the second kill was sorta of confirmation and him enacting his sense of Justice in a situation where most people didn’t act themselves

[@anusaukko6792]

Human's cant live without deluding themselves into thinking that what they do is somehow right or justified, if Light genuinely kept on thinking he was in the wrong then the overwhelming guilt from being a double murderer would've basically ended his future right then and there. He had to get lost in delusions of grandeur to maintain his sanity.

[@ryanakers1372]

Just wanted to point out the brilliance of Light's plan up to this point. He sows the idea that he could be under Kira's control by talking about his doubts as to whether or not he could be killing people without his knowledge and then "proves" it by having the killings stop at the beginning of his confinement only to resume shortly after he gives up ownership of the Deathnote and memories associated with it causing a dramatic change in his personality. Since the team knows Kira can control the actions of others, this shift in personality just before the killings resume could easily be seen as Kira's influence, leaving Light and moving to someone else. I won't spoil Light's endgame, but you have to admit it is a grand master level chess move.

[@Nov_Net]

Fr

[@Tyhar93]

Light's father said it best, no good can come from the murder of other people. Light may have started with "good" intentions, but once he had a taste for killing he became lost in that obsession.

[@jankasolis61]

The moment he tried to kill lind l tayro was when he was already corrupted

[@saltyk9869]

Seeing Light so completely different from what we've seen up till now is so entertaining and fun. It completely changes the dynamic of the series up to this point. Get ready for a ride.

[@yasminesteinbauer8565]

The whole explanation that Light wants to improve the world is obviously just a pretext for him to live out his God complex. In the first episode, Ryuk asks him why he's doing this, and Light says he's doing it out of boredom.

[@DigiCount]

Regarding the fake shot: gotta remember Soichiro is a heart patient, so he's already an at-risk individual being put through all that stress. Hard to remember that at the beginning of the series he had a full head of dark hair and now he's got broad salt and pepper streaks.

[@GwenisImmune]

"Are you on that side of the fence Ryuzaki" 😂😭

[@jthecryptid]

Someone correct me, but didn't the light novels say that L has solved cases involving paranormal or supernatural forces in the past? Hence why he's so attentive to strange details (like Rem moving Misa's hair) and willing to make conclusions like "we're dealing with a serial killer that kills using magic/psychic powers!" when a normal person would assume a virus, food poisoning, or coincidence

[@medallionstaywinnin]

Light's pretty extreme with his morals. He believes the world to be black and white: some actions are completely good, while others are completely bad...... And when he got the death note, He was so apalled by the fact that he murdered two people in cold blood, He quickly justifies his actions by hiding behind his moralistic persona: and it all went downhill from there. Its tragic, really: Light's being genuine right now, but hes also being genuine using the Death note. Interesting that someone who's morals are so black and white also has one of the grey-est writings in the entire show.

[@MrDrProfessorSir962]

“What could be different day 50 to 51?” is a powerful statement.

[@frenchynoob]

Hot take: the "Light as a Goody-Goody-Two-Shoes" Arc is my favourite.

[@dehistoriapisciumfish7639]

Same

[@kristopherwillis8075]

Same

[@ThelordHayden34]

So far, same

[@loki13383]

Death Note perfectly fits the statement "Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely"

[@LettsReact]

Comment below to VOTE which of these 4 series we should watch next! My Hero Academia Ju Jutsu Kaisen Chainsaw Man Code Geass

[@andrewkeshan8649]

I thought you already decided to watch the 1st episode of each of these and then decide which series to continue based on the engagement it gets.

[@nobody-fk1is]

Jujutsu kaisin(Peak fiction)

[@cookiedestroyer2801]

didn't we already do this a few times?

[@kal.august.yippee]

@@andrewkeshan8649 yes but seeing more input is important- they need as much as possible before making a choice

[@andrewkeshan8649]

@@kal.august.yippee yeah that's true and this is also a great way to get more comments on the video cause people will be spamming requests. I've noticed the videos that have these questions have a ton more comments and more comments help push the video in the algorithm.

[@Polymathically]

Going back at these episodes, it's so sad to look at Light and see what he could have been without the Death Note. He's so much more lively and earnest. Also, that discussion about nature versus nurture is very interesting. Speaking as someone who was diagnosed with a personality disorder, I totally agree that it's a combination of both. There's a history of mental health problems on both sides of the family; my dad was an extremely violent sociopath who couldn't function in society, and my mom was unstable due to growing up in dirt poor poverty in the Philippines, and struggled after coming to America. Both were incredibly smart, but very broken people. And I inherited that. I was born and raised in a religious cult, and dealt with years of bullying, fights, homophobia, and racism because I'm Asian and non-binary. I lived in a conservative town in the 80s and 90s, and was a social pariah. I was also latchkey kid, and was on my own so frequently that I was told not to tell anyone, because CPS would've likely taken me away. I started school a year early and was almost bumped up another full grade on top of that, so I was younger than my peers. I also watched someone die violently in front of me, which changed my view of death forever. Starting at 16, I put myself through college without student loans or help from my folks; I worked 3 jobs and sacrificed everything else. I got it done, but it cost me my physical and mental health. As a result of dealing with so much insanity and being isolated so much, I don't naturally connect with people. I think that everyone is crazy in their own ways, and some just hide it better. You'd be amazed what people are capable of when they think they can get away with it. Being alone is normal for me, and I resent the fact that I need other people to survive. When it comes to people in real life, it's more like I'm watching a character in a movie or a book. They're easy to read and analyze; I quickly understand how and why they act, what their priorities, desires, insecurities are, etc. And I adjust myself accordingly to give off the impression I want. It's ironic; people like talking to me, and regard me as a natural leader. I've always thought of it as putting my best foot forward, but once you're diagnosed, the double standard kicks in and suddenly it's seen as manipulative. Once someone is out of sight, they're out of mind. It's nothing personal, literally. I understand that it's a coping mechanism due to abuse and neglect. There's nothing malevolent about it, and I've been in therapy for years. It saved my life, though I harbor no illusions about my prognosis. The whole 'eccentric loner genius/calculating evil mastermind' cliche is extremely overrated. And as much as I hate to admit it, I'd probably end up like Light instead of L in this situation.

[@Alphasmatic]

that's crazy how you wrote all that on a comment section, I know you go crazy on english exams

[@Polymathically]

@@Alphasmatic Oh, that was nothing. I've written literal essays about my life in KZbin's comment sections, to the point that I had to split them up due to the character limit. I would've copied and pasted them here, but that would've been gone far beyond the scope of what was being discussed in the video. I don't think anyone is here for a trauma dump, after all. So, I kept it nice and brief. And yeah, my first degree was in English, with a focus on British and American Literature. I've always liked looking at a work and analyzing it, but it turns out that's just how my mind works regarding everything; I thrive on things like planning, logistics, navigation, and spatial awareness. Writing is arguably my best creative talent, and my preferred method of communication. Since I was alone so much as a kid, my only forms of entertainment were books and video games. I've always been a voracious reader; I was already reading Stephen King when I was only 6, and had owned and read hundreds of books by the time I started college. Much like Light, I excelled at nearly all of my subjects, especially English. When I started college at 16, I did so well on the entrance exams that I automatically tested out of all the English general ed courses. So to keep my writing sharp and stave off boredom, I became a video game reviewer. This was back in the very early 2000s, before social media existed. For the next decade, I wrote over 700 articles in long-form analytical essay format, none of that clickbait stuff you see today. I won over 30 writing contests, had a massive readership, accumulated over 2 million views, and was on the press mailing lists for a few major studios. But about 10 years ago, I had a mental breakdown and was forced into therapy. It saved my life, and made me to take a hard, honest look at my priorities. I walked away from the game industry, and my regular career in banking. Since then, I've traveled to 30 countries/6 continents. I love hiking and photography, and have gone seen and done things most people only reserve for their bucket lists. I also went back to college remotely during the pandemic and earned two more degrees, this time in Environmental Science and Geography. But all of that's _another_ long story.

[@Alphasmatic]

@@Polymathically jesus its sounds like you've completed life. Travelling the world is difficult nowadays too and you have a really interesting unique life, practically a genius which is not something a lot of people get to experience. Do you think you have the same power of manipulation as light yagami? I feel like intelligent people who analyse texts and books and videos like this etc also analyse people and behaviours

[@Un1234l]

@@Polymathically Treasure your cognition and health while you still can. I was once a very bright, competent, sharp individual, like a lesser version of you. But years of PTSD/sleep apnea or whatever fucked with my memory and cognition. Now >99% of the time I have amnesia and am so dissociated it's like I'm a different person with a different personality and identity.... every hour. Only now have I regained my lucidity after more than 20 hours or something. Imagine being a vegetable with no ability to think or remember any of your knowledge, wisdom, skills, achievements. Being a potato who has no memory of your identity or past, the lessons you've learned. You become another ignorant sheep born just yesterday or born that day. PS: The amnesia is so severe I don't remember the day before, the hour, 10 mins ago, etc. And been bouncing around doctors, neurologists, psychiatrists, sleep doctors, etc for more than a year now, and condition is getting worse. No diagnosis or treatment yet... though currently awaiting CPAP machine due to shortages. Keep my story in mind and maybe it will help you or someone else in the future.

[@Polymathically]

​@@Alphasmatic Nah. I mean, being able to analyze a person and adjust is one thing, but being some kind of master manipulator is the stuff of fiction. Light Yagami has such a ridiculous, vanity-driven god complex; if you've watched the series, you know exactly where that'll take him. My last therapist said I was like Mr. Spock from Star Trek, because I said I wished people were logical. But they don't; they run on emotion, have biases, usually don't change their beliefs despite factual evidence, etc. So while you can figure them out most of the time, it's impossible to predict what they'll do 100% of the time. Also, trying to keep track of all of that sucks. I can say from experience that the more you try to pretend to be someone else, the more problems it creates. You end up having to juggle all these layers of presentations and expectations at the same time, or at least compartmentalizing whenever possible. It ends up being this exhausting exercise in futility. Hence why I try to be honest while acting kind, because it's so much easier. That's kind of my current problem now, though. I've become increasingly fed up with people and the way the world is going, and I have no interest in any kind of relationships. Every relationship I've ever had, be it romantic, family, friendship, etc. has eventually failed. Some were my fault, others weren't. People drift apart, and they tend to freak out when they find out someone never actually cared about them. And I stopped trusting others years ago. People make me sick, but I have to keep up appearances in order to blend in and survive. I never planned on living this long, so it's tempting to just skip all that and choose death. It's a logical choice that's been in the back of my mind for decades. Depression is insidious like that. It's not about superiority or being ahead of the curve; it's that I've always been an outcast who's wired a little differently. And when you take a step back and get some perspective, you start to realize how pointless and nonsensical things really are... and how people desperately cling to them. What I've come to learn is that you can't deny your nature; it's nothing but a waste of time and energy. Instead, you have to understand and accept all aspects of yourself, but work on the parts that cause problems. For example, due to what I inherited from my folks and all the trauma I went through, I developed a ruthless temper when I was younger. And I don't mean the usual "tough guy on the Internet" kind of thing. I mean the kind of thing that would've gotten me on the news. I can't talk about violence directly on here because KZbin's censors would autodelete it and get me banned. In retrospect, I kind of understand how such people are driven to such insane acts. The adrenaline and sense of power feel great... but have diminishing returns. Some of them get hooked on it and escalate until they've done something horrendous, and get caught or off themselves as a final act of defiance. But things like rage and hate are like an emotional cancer; if you carry them around, they'll eat you from the inside out. I'm not a kind or peaceful person by nature, but I've had to learn to be one over the years for the sake of my own benefit. That old phrase, "you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar" is absolutely true. Over the years, I save that kind of rage for only when it's necessary, most recently when a burglar broke into my house, and I chased him out with an axe. Anyway, intelligence by itself is fine, but it doesn't ensure you'll survive, let alone be successful. If I was really a genius, I'd be able to live and function perfectly fine in this world, and have tons of money. Instead, I have to succeed by working on and overcoming the parts of me that would drag me down. I often feel completely aimless in life, because I never intended to live this long. If I'd stuck with my instincts, I'd have been gone for a decade by now. Opportunities don't just magically appear, and I have to keep growing. My dad never learned that lesson, despite being a supposed genius. He could speak 10 languages, had a couple of master's degrees, and collected bachelor's degrees like gamers collect Pokemon. But if the logical thing had been done 40 years ago, he would've been in prison for the nearly killing my mom in front of me back in the '80s. He lived freely instead, but lacked self-awareness. He never comprehended why he couldn't function in society. He never accomplished anything in life, despite how intelligent he was. Instead, he was ravaged by diabetes complications and other health issues. He died a miserable failure, and completely alone... aside from the cancer that ate him alive. No one misses him. I have no intention of repeating his mistakes, and I've already lived a more fulfilling life than he ever did. But I had to learn how to do it the hard way.

[@kerouac.jackson]

This episode was about when I realized that Light's issue was necessarily a misplaced sense of justice or any inner darkness. His issue was narcissism. From the beginning, he was absolutely in love with himself, and even though he set high standards for himself, he was still managing to exceed those standards, and all too easily, being top of the class or even top of the nation in both academics and athletics (tennis). And one of those standards was being both a good person and a law-abiding citizen since his father was a highly placed police officer. And then suddenly, he became a murderer, and he was forced to keep justifying both that murder and every other murder afterwards in order to keep being able to love himself, doubling down again and again each time until it became his god complex. This didn't become clear to me until his memories as Kira were removed and became able to love himself again without the burden of having to justify multiple murders though continuous killing since he had to convince himself that it was the righteous thing to do since it was now his responsibility to use this power since no one else was smart enough or good enough to use it wisely, etc.

[@asimplewizard]

I can't imagine a guy that has to check for paper, pencil lead, and a door handle degree change every day before sliding a pen through his explorable desk to get at his portable delete button is living a stress free life.

[@kerouac.jackson]

@@asimplewizard Well, that was after he got the Death Note. His life and daily habits were very different before that happened.

[@dehistoriapisciumfish7639]

To be fair L was just good at keeping his promise. He told Light that he wouldn’t release Light until he was certain Light was not Kira. And he wasn’t certain. Therefore one extra month. Also L didn’t know about the death note but the plan with the car wouldn’t work even if they were Kira at the time since they were handcuffed and didn’t have the notebooks on them. Of course L didn’t know about them but still

[@marenwithanm7091]

It's so so crazy to see how much the death note changed light. To the point where without it he was like *this*? Absolutely bonkers to think about

[@TherapyDerg]

To play devil's advocate, Light wouldn't need to punish criminals if the justice system actually... you know got justice and stopped being a two tiered system for the poor and rich lol.

[@Un1234l]

It's not just a two-tiered system for the poor or rich. Even if there are two rich people, it's if the rich party aligns with higher interests of more powerful people who would otherwise silence the judges. Like the current case in the USA how Fauci, Epstein, Biden, Pelosi, Harris, etc are all escaping accountability and justice for their egregious crimes despite their political opponents being persecuted, arrested, silenced, and raided for much lesser charges.

[@NithishVS666]

25:00 L actually thinks that misa's act is controlled by kira because kira can control actions before death. Now seeing light, he thinks light is also being controlled by kira and this is his action before death.

[@jthecryptid]

I think the cold and detached way the Death Note kills contributed to Light's initial descent into murder. I can't see pre-Death Note light deliberately killing someone while looking them in the face and gloating like he did with Naomi and Ray Penbar.

[@revanius2213]

In a way Light was under Kira's control, he even talked like he wasn't the person he used to be, like he just was the death note now

[@Nomocho]

Congrats on 100k! Keep up the Banger reactions!

[@magne7771]

I dunno, man. "Maybe if you clowns were better at your _jobs,_ I wouldn't _be_ rooting for the bad guy to do it _for_ you!" seems like a pretty common sentiment. Always has, long as I've been around.

[@s-idney]

then again if you told me that a man with a magic notebook was using it to kill people by writing their name down, I'd also have trouble believing you and catching the guy

[@meganhammer7857]

Everyone always asks how corrupted Light was by the Death Note, and never brings up his dad being a cop as a source of his idea of justice. Anyway... L's deadpan line delivery is so good it makes me forgive his human rights violations.

[@farrell7192]

loving how much you guys are enjoying the show

[@Alphasmatic]

yo I just realised imagine if chief yagami had another genuine heart attack (and it was fatal) in that moment from tall that stress...

[@evakazoo]

Your analysis of Light’s psychology was really cool to listen to like that’s crazyy

[@roguegabe]

such an amazing discussion from this episode!! ya'll are definitely one of my favorite reacting channels!

[@tru2thastyle]

Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely!

[@kahlilheslop7883]

14:24 you only see two crows, so it's actually... An attempted murder! ;)

[@LamirLakantry]

My issue with the writing is how months of torture are just shrugged of and forgotten. Soletery confinement, and especially sensory deprivation like Misa was put through is literally torture. And remember they were also using drugs and probably other methods on Misa. You are not just fine after that. They both should need extensive rehabilitation, and probably should never be fine being around the people who caused that torture. Yet we see them cracking jokes and being goofy. No, shows should not depict torture if they aren't prepared for it to scar the characters mentally. Just don't have torture in the show. Easy fix.

[@someoneelse5209]

I disagree. The show doesn't put a hard-stop focus on it because it's irrelevant and would slow down the pacing, and that was the best decision. But to say it's "shrugged off" completely is nonsense. Light is known for his kind nature and non-combative attitude, and immediately after being released he violently attacks L for simply saying he's demotivated, then proceeds to bring up said torture. They go on to attack each other again later on the series. They don't have time, or any choice, to "rehabilitate", they're both near convicted serial killers and are pretty much straight-up guilty. This isn't a situation where two innocent people are falsely accused, then released once its figured out that they're innocent. It's a unique scenario where two guilty people are given a slap-on-the-wrist for absurd reasons. In short, it's not "shrugged off", there's just nothing that can be done about it. Misa is implied to be unbelievably strong willed, and somewhat mentally ill. She killed people without a second thought, and as long as she can be fixated on Light, she can cope amazingly. On top of this, there's a 4 month timeskip immediately after their release, so we don't get to see just how they've progressed after those events. Finally, the show never implies they were using drugs on Misa, not quite sure why you made that up.

[@LamirLakantry]

@@someoneelse5209 There's a scene where watari rolls in a trolly with various suringes and chemicals where Misa is being held and druling, and L tells him something along the likes of keep going. Heavily implying the use of drugs. I agree it would change the story if the characters reacted realistically to surviving four months of torture. That doesn't justify bad writing. Just don't have the torture. If a show has torture in it, don't treat it as if the characters just had a bad day. That's bad writing. Trying to justify it by saying the person was strong of will or some BS is still lazy writing. Look at videos of people who voluntarily try solitery confinement. Look how disoriented and loopy they become after just a few days. Also, you kept bringing up their crimes, as if I were making an argument about the mortality of it. I have issues there too, but my argument was all about the unrealistic writing of torture. I don't care how iron willed you are. You are not okay after a week of that, much less months. They should be broken husks of people. It's lazy writing.

[@someoneelse5209]

@@LamirLakantry “I agree it would change the story if the characters reacted realistically” I never said that, so we don’t agree. I said the story would lose focus and pacing if dwelled too deeply into the subject, without pushing the plot forward. It’s not bad writing, in fact, that’s quite the opposite. The conditions of Light and Misa were a circumstantial requirement to tell the story, it’s not like there was any other way L could be convinced that the two weren’t Kira without it. You could argue: “then change the story and the conditions”, but then you’re just asking for a different story all together, which is moot. I already explained to you that the characters don’t treat the situation as if “they had a bad day”, they simply just dont have any other choice but to roll with it. There’s a huge difference. You seem to not like the element of characters going through such harsh conditions without those things being thoroughly explored to your liking, in the way you want, rather than attacking actual bad writing. “You keep bringing the argument of their as if I were making a moral argument” No I wasn’t. You just seem to not understand my point. I’m aware you were making a moral argument, my point wasn't that they deserved to not deal with their mental health, my point is that it was their only option given their circumstances. “They should be broken husk as people” Not necessarily. You can make more of an argument for Misa, but definitely not light. “Broken husk” is kinda absurd. I can understand if it were five years, but over a month shouldn’t render anyone so mentally destroyed that they’re completely hollow. That’s definitely a person-to-person scenario. At the bare minimum, I can agree that the author could’ve done a better job at showing a more fatigued and disoriented version of the characters upon release, but that’s about it. There’s not much else they should’ve focused on beside that, and it was for the better. As for the trolly scene, I don’t remember it, but I’ll take your word for it.

[@LamirLakantry]

@@someoneelse5209 You keep misrepresenting everything I say and dismissing every point as if they don't matter. The point is that depictions of torture should not be this badly handled. I don't know why you're defending this so passionately. If you want someone to argue with, go bother someone else. We're clearly not going to convince each other. I've said what needed saying in my first post. I won't respond again.

[@someoneelse5209]

@@LamirLakantry No I am not. I've explicitly responded to every point you've made, and had even gave you credit to where I think you could be correct. If anything, you're the one that continuously double's down without actually responding. Even with your latest response, you do this. I literally just explained that between: the narrative circumstances, the pacing of the series, and the realistic consequences that would be in real life, the show didn't do a bad job of scaling all three elements. It didn't deep dive into those darker, more realistic elements for the story's sake, but it also could've done better. And you simply respond with: "I don't like how it was badly handled." It wasn't badly handled, the story doesn't suffer from it. I agreed that that there could've been more done. Once again, you'd have a fair point if the Light and Misa would've been locked up for even a year. "I don't know why you're defending this so passionately." Now we're gaslighting? Dude, you're acting like I'm at your doorstep. You're the one who commented about the subject to begin with, I'm simply responding with my thoughts, and you obliged. No one forced you to respond to me.

[@asimplewizard]

This episode was probably the only time L mentioned that he was starting to suspect entities were possessing people. Thats the most likely solution tbf, well, besides magic notebooks of death.

[@Angelicwings1]

I also think because Light is so smart and was the son of a policeman both of those contributed. I feel many intelligent people who are exposed to all kinds of knowledge tend to steer toward mental illnesses of some kind. Just because, as you kind of said, they perceive a lot about the world. Being the son of the police chief would have exposed him to times where he was worried for his father, he would know all too well about all the criminals that get away, he would know the flaws in the system…Etc. Knowing the flaws in the system and knowing he’s smart it doesn’t surprise me that he would think he could “fix” the system using the death note. So the darkness was probably deep there but he talked it down a lot and talked himself out of those thoughts. Being a smart guy who reflects on things a lot he probably did that a bit. Then he got the Death Note and then talked himself back INTO those thoughts. You know? I’m not much of an expert on anything but those are my thoughts on it anyway.

[@remangapage21]

this is my favorite episode, many people say stupid and genius people are like a coin, almost the same but also different. sometimes clever plans are easy to understand but stupid and crazy plans are hard to understand. The joker knows best about this.

[@HARDCORE4BELGIUM]

yes L is batman , and misa and light are the joker and harley quinn

[@JennyShull]

•I know Light is not a Shinigami but to me it would have been an awesome twist at the end that Light turned out to be a Shinigami the whole time. Kira being a Shinigami that pulls pranks on humans be becoming a human. •Isn’t Matsuda being trained by Yagami to be police officer or detective? The way they interact makes me think it’s a teacher student or father son relationship. Or is Matsuda already a police officer or detective? Either Matsuda is not being trained very well to be a police officer the way he is treated. I bet Matsuda passed some sort of police officer or detective tests. But his naive impulsive personality was hard to be trained out of him. Matsuda reminds of Tokyo Police Officer Wataru Takagi (Detective Conan)

[@TbA500N]

Exactly you guys got it light considers himself what a Japanese student should be....but he killed two people out of boredom he couldn't live that fact unless he justified it...

[@gamesmoney1025]

Light: Thanks alot for making me piss and crap in my pants right in front of Misa L....😡

[@newpgaston6891]

Seeing Light like this always makes me a little sad, knowing he IS a genuinely good person at heart (Despite his black&white sense of justice, which the Death Note amplified to the extreme). I think it's very realistic too; Power does corrupt, and ultimate powers (like the death note) can ultimately corrupt you.

[@tacticixn]

i cannot tell if they are on lights side or L’s side anymore.

[@febbledebble]

I feel like they’re neutral. They just believe that both Light and L are fantastic characters.

[@TheGreatDetectiveKnows]

They lean towards L's side, they are just critical of when he does unethical things, which is refreshing because he gets such a pass from the fandom.

[@jankasolis61]

​@@TheGreatDetectiveKnows to be fair. He is fighting a supernatural book of death xd. Witho out crossing the line ...

[@somestuff7876]

33:04 sorry for going off topic, but thats pretty close to how Isayama (author of Attack on Titan) talked about Eren's character and his nature around last chapters of the manga.

[@BryceLK]

8:19 Scenes like this always make me laugh super hard because I imagine the character as Abed from Community. "Okay, here's my plan... (whisper, whisper, whisper.)" "Abed, you can't just make whisper noises, nobody is cutting away!" In my head, Chief Yagami is reacting to L acting like a truly meta, far-end-of-the-spectrum 4th wall break of a character and he's realizing that he's sat in a cell for 50 days while this guy ate dessert and watched him, and now he's saying, _"Alright, here's what we're going to do... (whisper, whisper, whisper.)"_

[@aliperro]

Immediately Abed came to my mind...My thoughts exactly. 😂

[@ozzynator456]

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

[@jacksonemery-fj8lu]

I think this explains bad cops, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely

[@KravenZoro]

Truly amazing reactions and analysis

[@yujirohanma7470]

Love how we just saw Montana become the human equivalent of a blue screen after the gunshot went off lmao

[@Bloodbeard2k]

Absolute power corrupts absolutely

[@Hashpro567]

Finally at 100k congratulations🎉🎉

[@fireblast133]

L is essentially 'If Batman focused on being a detective more than a vigilante'

[@xhinoteque]

That commentary about Nature vs. Nurture reminded me a lot of Zeke and Eren Jaeger

[@roguegabe]

Kenny, that was an A+ clean summary 🤌🏽

[@apoptosisduellinks109]

Amazing discussion about how faulty (moral) views can be harmless if the person holding them doesn't have power or resources to act on them, and can be (very) harmful once that person does get in a situation to act on them.

[@elioskope7378]

light's plan to convince L that he is innocent is to literally just be innocent

[@HxH2011DRA]

Light is the result of insane talent

[@music79075]

23:00 Thats why I agree with his father that anybody who would be given a Death Note would be cursed. Being given power is to be cursed with exponential levels of responsibility. Light has the power of death literally in his hands and when he had found himself across that "line" he had to find a way to justify not only that killing but the power he had.

[@deletesomething5564]

For the question on where L has the money to do half of what he does, besides being a part time detective, he also turned the stock market into his own personal ATM, and managed to get absurd returns to fuel his lifestyle of hunting cases he took an interest in

[@angelb33ts]

I think Light himself at his core enjoys being Kira because we see him compromise one moral for the greater cause of being Kira, but he won't do the same to catch Kira even though it's the same situation, compromising a moral for another cause. I think if he were part of the investigation and got satisfaction from it even as a "good" guy he would eventually compromise morals for investigations once he felt the satisfaction like the satisfaction of victory using the Death Note. Once investigating becomes more enjoyable he'd be more willing

[@aayankhan-mj2wg]

This is probably the funiest episode that I had watched in Death Note..

[@dylandeeny8247]

Did the deathnote manipulate Light through magical means or did Light become more like himself with his philosophy given the freedom to eliminate criminals while staying anonymous?

[@CrazeeAdam]

LOL there are so many shippers of Light and L xD this episode kind of lays it on thick

[@Atuami]

funny af he said batman and L is an orphan 😂😂

[@rbxq]

you guys are determined to spoil later episodes at every possible moment with these edits

[@s-idney]

i keep forgetting how filthy rich L is

[@mikemath9508]

If he's wide eyed? If he's narrow eyed? guy is a genius who is playing a game.

[@popsiclecheese4256]

21:39 I almost spit out my drink lmfaooo

[@yourmoonchild1420]

Experiencing this version of Light is so interesting. Going into the show and seeing how quickly Light was willing to use the death note led me to believe he was always psychotic in some shape or form. This version though definitely threw me in for a loop. After thinking about it for a while I honestly think Light was probably always a narcissist who experienced some type of psychotic break thanks to the death note. Something interesting to note is the fact that the Light we’re presented with in this episode vs the Light we saw at the beginning of episode one doesn’t exactly feel the same. Episode one pre death note Light might have been experiencing some form of depression which is common for those with npd. He described himself as “bored” and it seems like that might have stemmed from a lack of challenge in his life and potential loneliness. Those with npd often times have difficulties in making true genuine friends for obvious reasons, and that seems to be the case with Light in the show that he has a lot of acquaintances but no close friendships. This essentially could have created the perfect storm where someone who is a narcissist and was potentially experiencing depression happened to pick up a magic notebook that not only allowed himself to feed even more into his inflated ego- advancing into a god complex, but also challenged him in a way he was missing in life. Once Light started using the note he experienced a psychotic break, unable to process the fact that he had broken his own moral code and sense of justice, in order to cope he essentially split into two people, Kira vs Light Yagami (we see this in the way he will sometimes refer to Light as almost this mask he needs to wear when he’s in society rather than accept he still is in fact Light). The Light we see in this episode is one who has all his needs met essentially (the ones that might have put him into depression- he’s working on a challenging case, plus someone has come into his life who comes close to matching his intellect [While L didn’t really care for Light, I think Light cared for L in some way. You can see this after **spoiler** L dies and Light doesn’t seem as happy as he should considering he removed his biggest threat]). He also has been taken out of his psychotic break. Without the knowledge of the death note and all his memories gone, he has been pulled back into one person- the honest, earnest, honor student Light Yagami.

[@dragankovy1217]

Why do they need 38 floors when their not even 10 of them xD

[@DaBroSquad]

L knows light is kira because light said raye penber was investigating him and no one else had access to that info. Light slipped up in one of their first meetings and L immediately picked up on that

[@hundvd_7]

Once again, Soichiro Yagami is the best character

[@i.k5696]

The thing to understand is that L ayas enough sway to rule the world by himself, the task force are the only pepole who would queston him

[@SebasTian58323]

I think the Death Note does game a corrupting influence on people. Like light said, there's something about it that makes people want to try it at least once, and its up to the person after that. If they're upstanding people, they're likely to be disgusted and not use it again, but if they have a personality that's prone to corruption, they have no problem using it again and the more they use it, the more they're willing to do anything else. It amplifies what's inside to an extent. At least that's what I think

[@music79075]

Light is literally The Rizzler

[@okamiseele8614]

Sure, in this instance, L is not wrong about Light being Kira. But what if he WAS? Technically, he is wrong because Light is completely innocent at this time, he doesn't remember. He's basically torturing an innocent. Also, side note, blanks are extremely lethal. They cause deaths on movie sets all the time. At point blank range, Light would be 100% dead.

[@Astrakkun]

Montana 👑: Chekhov's Helicopter Montana Genius Counter: +1

[@Cosmicmorales]

15:21 foreshadowing…

[@Lulu-wp4te]

That Rizz bit was hilarious hahaha

[@kamalpoluri1666]

Yotsuba playing Among US IRL... 💀💀💀

[@dudermcdudeface3674]

Anyone who loves Death Note would also love the critically-acclaimed live action spy thriller series "The Americans." Way more intricate, and of course mostly realistic.

[@cryocrystal_7815]

I totally think u guys should react to madoka magica I feel like it would up your alley plus the animation in both show and movie are breathtaking

[@andrewli6606]

Madoka Magica doesn't work as well if you're not familiar with the magical girl genre. I feel Psycho-Pass or Fate/Zero would be better picks written by the same writer.

[@cryocrystal_7815]

@@andrewli6606I mean it definitely seem like Montana is familiar with magical girls as she said I’m this video plus madoka works well for ppl who haven’t been experienced magical girl plus it only 12 episodes

[@rayesheilder2577]

YES YES YES YES YES YES

[@suinade5384]

This show exploits the workings of a god complex so perfectly, I say while also believing that categorizing a god complex is impossible, at least in single categories. God Complex isn’t like other personality traits.. instead it’s more of a personality trait that exists solely as justification. It’s like delusional narcissism, but with extremist logic… but this can literally introduce manipulation, abuse, compulsive lying, hypocrisy, etc. It’s like a gateway trait and simultaneously a very dangerous trait by itself. Death Note is so amazing for displaying this effectively.

[@Eraldo_Coil]

How does L know? It’s because L has very strong intuition.

[@ikmalhakimharun3823]

its not bcs L didnt want to lose. its bcs L is certainly sure that light is kira. he just didnt have enough evidence to convince others. but he did have some doubts tho

[@Darth_SurgeYo]

13:31 Weak, missed out on thinking "maybe he becomes a shinigami"

[@macadelic2492]

i dont understand how they don't get why L is lying and doing all these extreme things to beat Kira when he's just using all his resources to win (outside of magic powers) lol

[@firerath]

I'm sorry but was that the goddamn Omnitrix activation sound effect at 26:24??? That feels so out of place for Death Note!

[@saltyk9869]

On nature versus nurture, I've always wondered what would happen if you created a perfect clone of a person and gave them as close to the same life as the original as possible? Would they become the same person? Make the same mistakes? If you created a clone of Einstein would it also come up with relativity (assuming a world where that wasn't a thing)? I've seen identical twins separated at birth who end up with very similar lives (down to having spouses with the same color hair), so I'm inclined to think there's a strong element of nature involved in who people are. Though a person's experiences clearly have an effect. I'd probably say that nature and nurture have equal factors in who a person becomes.

[@TheGreatDetectiveKnows]

Look into Twin studies. We can logically determine with absolute certainty that genetics play a significant role in all behavior, many studies say around 60-80% despite the huge backlash and lack of incentive to do this research since it so greatly harms the 'we are interchangeable' ideology... so it's almost entirely genetic. In fact you can come up with an entirely biological explanation since mimicry and trauma responses are arguably biological phenomena; experiences and your response to them are one set of genes responding to another set of genes. it's the sole nurture explanation that crumbles without a biological variable. But well, this becomes obvious when we look at animals and see that different animals, even different breeds of the same species, have very different behaviors. A Rottweiler cannot be a poodle no matter how much we train it. Squirrels search for nuts instead of crocodiles as an evolutionary biological trait, not because society told them to. This tells us the dominant force is biological and the nurture, if any, is minimal and does not overtake the natural order.

[@TheGreatDetectiveKnows]

And yes you are correct about [partner selection] being genetic as well! Did you know specific species of butterflies look for very specific traits when it comes to mating partners? Down to wing pattern preferences?

[@mrb1051]

montana thought that police officer got a heart attack at the end but he was just crying haha

[@сиднипрескотт-щ3л]

Lol "stfu" said the one who never shuts up

[@Nicholas1994]

36:04 Mm... If you ever get around to watching Psycho-Pass, it will be your favourite animé. The first season in particular has a near-flawless exploration of these ideas, with the added intrigue of being set in a time where humans at a large scale are suffering from 'eustress deficiency syndrome', which is causing all kinds of trouble. Way ahead of it's time.

[@MrMisterman1]

Aizawa REALLY needs to take a chill pill

[@bakthihapuarachchi3447]

Aizawa is based