Chieftain with a Shotgun - Engineered Double Shot Frag Canons - Elite Dangerous

[@tessemi]

6:19 Federal gunship More like Federal GONEship

[@DrunerKajin]

THATS ALOTTADAMAGE

[@DrunerKajin]

Mr Universe Ah. I see you are a man of culture as well.

[@xendakakorva3267]

*OH YOU THINK!?* XD

[@tessemi]

I only have 3 frags with double shot on my chieftain and im almost oneshotting people already. Replaced the small ones for railguns for long range coverage though. But watching this video makes me think... Who needs railguns?

[@VindicatorJones]

Pfftt.. I was running railguns before the frags... Now they are on the scrap heap.. Frags all the way!

[@xendakakorva3267]

*WHO NEEDS RAILS WHAT YOU HAVE 500 TONS OF BUCKSHOT!?* >:D

[@tessemi]

@Snickeres 557 their weakness is the pitiful range so heat would make it very bad.

[@spartansmsu93noob54]

"Surprised they haven't been nerfed"...dude why did you say that?! Oh no, oh no, here comes Sandro with his mighty nerf bat! Vindicator you fool!!!

[@VindicatorJones]

Frontier knows about this already Im sure.. the lack of ammo, and the extreme short range compensate for the damage output.. I think we are safe.. hehehe

[@emiliouchila]

are we??? you dont seem to be having issues ripping a new one on bigger ships, and there is no counter to it, op much

[@leinardesteves3987]

Vindicator Jones post the build duuuude the link doesn’t work anymore

[@Hawk_of_Battle]

I'm planning to build a shotgun Chief soon, I was planning to also put some beam lasers on it. Now I see this, I think I'll just go all in on the frags, cos mother of god the dps!

[@Bazinga_flux]

4 pips to weps with all frags, ples no

[@Xpressible]

the important thing is to always have 0 pips to shields

[@VindicatorJones]

Completely... my lack of experience with Frag cannons meant I completely underestimated their efficiency, I was learning that towards the end of the video.

[@steammausss164]

More pips to weapons increases damage? Or simply no bonus damage for non laser weapons?

[@wellingtonclayton5628]

@@steammausss164 you wanna have as low peeps as possible on wep, they only need enough to run and are not benefited from extra energy. Your shields on the other hand regenerates faster as you send more energy towards it. So ideally you wanna keep 4 at sys at all times. In a nutshell: do the opposite as the guy did on the video lol

[@Violaman0910]

Wellington Clayton uh, not really. Your capacitors hold charge until it’s needed. Keeping 0 pips to systems means that you can use that power in engines or weapons until your shield capacitor is drained and then you charge systems up as needed. He explained that in another video.

[@bverkist]

The most fun I've had while bounty hunting has been in my Keelback with all double shot frags and a rapid scan KWS.

[@DarthWall275]

I might try this kind of build with a FAS...it looks perfectly suited for it.

[@Drawfill]

My new favorite weapon. Not only is the damage insane but you can use them effectively with 1 pip in weapons and the rest on shields and thrusters.

[@TheKermit2110]

As a chieften fan I really appreciate this vid, thanks

[@davidchandler5432]

I put 6 double shot frags on my AspX, and it can often one-shot NPCs in a DBX and smaller when I do it right. Makes it so I can chew up anything bigger since I can stay on their butts and get shots in, and anything really nimble I just need to hit it once or twice.

[@Landbeforetime1992]

Try OC with the screening shell effect. Slightly less burst damage, but a very fast reload and more damage overall more than makes up for it

[@BerVeg]

Ive been using a Python with 2 large long range pulses, the rest is gimbaled double shot frags (with one "hull softener" and one thermal. It's great fun. With 4 pips to engines and 2 pips to weapons, I never run out of juice on either. The pulses soften the target and also keep dmg on target even if it is far away, not to mention those tiny gnats that keeps evading my turbo las... ehm... frags... When they attack me... BOOM-BOOM BOOM-BOOM BOOM-BOOM as they pass. I've been thinking about a more dedicated heavy fighter. Maybe the Krait will do, or the Challenger? Wonder how they compare to a FAS or Gunship...

[@seanforsythe78]

I just finished a frag mamba build and its probably the most fun ive had in a while.

[@CluelessGuyAXI]

Just put 1 pip to weapons and watch the fireworks

[@dmain6735]

Love That Mwhuhuhuhuh! moment when folk use the Frag love first time.

[@VindicatorJones]

LOL, it was an awesome moment.

[@K1lostream]

Hah! Welcome to the world of Zacharia Nemo! A fun build to try is the frag-de-lance - original idea was inspired by Mini, Mine is now running 4 class 2 G5 overcharged gimbal frags, one corrosive, one drag munition, and two oversized, and a huge efficient Healy beam (or oversized if I'm on my own) in the 4-slot - the rest I don't need to tell you, but I recommend giving it a go, I think it will bring you joy!

[@Dan.a.k.a.bradpitt]

That's extremely retarded.

[@michalvalta5231]

The new Krait mk.II looks like it's been optimized to take frag shots. :D

[@999wilf999]

Take 'em to a conflict zone for real fun!

[@ALonelyAnchovy]

imagine this with an FDL. geez, just have all pips to engines, run circles around them, dear god thatd be broken xD

[@akiravj]

My good`ole FDL need to be tuned like this!

[@TheDarkWolv]

Welp I know what build I'm going to try on my Krait tomorrow... Probably not something I'd use often, but looks like a really fun build. Those things are insane.

[@VindicatorJones]

Runnning them on my fully engineered Krait right now.. Weirdly the Chieftains loadout seems to do more damage... But I am still testing and recording.

[@innocentiuslacrim2290]

I do not know if you managed to get them to work on Krait, but I guess that ship (like python) will have more issues staying close enough for the majority of the "pellets" to hit. I was playing around with the idea of something like this for a frag ship, but I cannot most likely bother to really make it also. s.orbis.zone/qv9 (assassination missions only I guess)

[@bobbyyee9806]

lol Zap Brannigan at the end

[@RahzZalinto]

and here I am feeling like the chieftain is still "the new ship" lol

[@davidkennedy6208]

I look forward to watching you put the Challenger and Krait through its paces!!! Which one looks the most appealing to you??? I look forward to your opinion Commander o7!!!

[@VindicatorJones]

I am in love with the Krait... I just love the style of it, and its intended role. I just hope it lives up to the hype. I will find out today and post a vid.. Challenger is then next on the list. :)

[@davidkennedy6208]

Vindicator Jones I've bought my Krait, now it's Engineers time o7!!!

[@Landbeforetime1992]

Challenger is the better of the two for pvp, hands down. But both are fantastic ships

[@davidkennedy6208]

LandbeforeTMZ1992 I didn't expect that!!! I was just gonna stick with the Chieftain, how much better is the Challenger??? I just imagined it'd be like the Gunship and handle terribly.

[@Landbeforetime1992]

David Kennedy Manuverablity is comparable to the chieften. Slower overall speed, but superior acceleration. With deep plated lightweight reactive armor, an armored plant, 6c thermal bi weave, a full set of deep plated HD HRPs and two 2d MRPs I'm boosting at 497mps with 4.65k, 52/41/53 hull And a 476mj, 50/57/64 shield.

[@ecevansevans2566]

Plasma Accelerator were like this and then they nerf them.

[@joshbaggy1]

Uh oh, my nerf senses are tingling.

[@Jazod]

With such limited ammo, I doubt it

[@Landbeforetime1992]

Not going to happen. PvP utility is limited

[@joshbaggy1]

Yeah, it's more of a joke of how Frontier tends to 'panic nerf' things that appear too 'OP' at the time. So, if the Krait is a more PvP orientated than the Python, then what purpose does the Krait serve when its PvP utility is actually limited? Exploration? Apparently it has a good jump range.

[@paintzemute6364]

the krait only has a 1ly advantage over the python from what i can tell (without engineering)

[@SpaceMissile]

did it happen? (two-year-old comment lol)

[@sbf2557]

What are the experimental effects on the cannons, the download link doesn't work

[@emperorpalpatine2957]

I suggest putting the Cannons on Gimballed so it's not a pain in the ass to line up shots sure you'll lose some damage but engineering makes up for it

[@QueerXYZ]

the only thing about ammo synthesis that still bothers me is basic only reloads 50% ammo while the other two refill completely AND boost damage

[@VindicatorJones]

Yup, this I agree with 100%

[@lplayerjohnny9778]

Next idea: Bring it to thargoid hunting

[@timesthree5757]

I only use mine chief on ground search missions. But I will try this on my gun ship.

[@jms1hbv]

Hey mate! Do you think you could reshare the build - the link seems broken...

[@randomuser2461]

I think the point in the end is it basically gives a low target number assasination setup. Nothing else does this. The max you can do is potentially rapid fire screening shell(although it might not be accurate in coriolis.) either way it's good for single target get in get out if that was an emphasis in the game. I haven't done much combat stuff but it's atleast good for actual assassination missions. I think the T-10 can get just over 3k dps with premium ammo. It probably won't get nerfed(I hope) as it fills in an actual part of the game. it has intentional limits and fits that bill perfectly. We just need more stuff in game to utilize it. Maybe we'll get more advanced higher grade assassination stuff later. Or could a group of these be used effectively against those capitol ships effectively? Could you solo a capitol ship with one?

[@kylewalker7209]

Awesome vid! I think I've finally found my anti-troll build >:)

[@yianniskanellopoulos6719]

try four fc on the FDL... Glad you jumped on frag train :) at last!

[@VindicatorJones]

I have a huge list of ships I want to try these on. lol... But yes.. Before I thought frags were meh... but now... I have converted.. I just wish they sounded better when you fire.

[@FurryEskimo]

Looks to burn through ammo kind of fast..

[@nubularconniption3939]

Synthesis my guy

[@Kay_213_]

Can you say, “dakka”?

[@mattdoenitz5427]

How did you get that AWESOME purple HUD? I love it!

[@VindicatorJones]

There are many tutorials online on how to do it. To get my exact colour, just look at the bottom of the description in any of my videos, and it will give you the right code to use.

[@emiliouchila]

Frontier QA at its finest

[@fashig06]

thats a LOTTA damage

[@bleachfan1985]

fashig06 let's give it a little more

[@franticuploader3668]

Please do your testing in a CZ. A sidewinder with 1 broken hard point could wreak havoc in a res.

[@PsychopathicCake]

I appreciate how your build link doesn’t work

[@CMTechnica]

Shreds condas. My nerf alarm is going off

[@VindicatorJones]

Double shot Frags have been known for a while, so I dont think so. It's just that I have personally never tried them until now.

[@innocentiuslacrim2290]

Are all of the engineered frag cannons also semi-automatic (besides the 2 per trigger press from the doubleshot effect)? What does it mean for rapid fire, do I need to press the trigger 6 times a second to get the effect?

[@SaruwatariMasahiro]

What is that thruster direction indicator on the top left? I tried googling it but couldn't find it.

[@GK-wn6ur]

Wait until you replace the two large frags with Pacifiers

[@deadeyecpt.7765]

G K Yeah, I love those things. G3 modded on my python and now krait, their DPS is 941. Seriously, they erase everything on their path. Perfect for big ship hunting, that's my role in my pvp wing.

[@hibiscus779]

what experimental effects? incendiary or corrosive? also, gimbled or fixed? thanks in advance for your advice

[@deadeyecpt.7765]

Hibiscus fixed pacifiers with incendiary.

[@hibiscus779]

one of them corrosive for the hull debuff?

[@deadeyecpt.7765]

Hibiscus no, i just go with incendiary cause they are already powerfull enough

[@ReeP3X]

2:01 Thats ALOT of DAMAGE

[@mynameisjundertag3568]

If I get ganked with that build.........

[@BradHann]

Are the Hudson or Guardian versions worth unlocking? Does each individual pellet have its own chance to cause module damage?

[@Markblindlemon]

Christ on a bike with no seat.......I need them😃

[@additiveartificer9365]

ok I go Frag now

[@Fenris420]

Wow, that was just nasty? Have you tried them on other ships yet?

[@VindicatorJones]

Yes.. yes I have... but works really well on the chieftain.

[@xllpride]

Doubleshot frags are a no-no. They are only decent in PVP, and even then, only for a short time before you run out of ammo. You have two proper setup for frags. First being Overcharged (pvp) and High Capacity (pve). Two should have corrosive and Drag. The rest screening shell. You can also put Incendiary on the larges, but with the damage output as is, it's up to player's choice.

[@wellingtonclayton5628]

High capacity is really the worst possible choice ever since it won't buff your dps. You have more ammo but you'll be also needing more shots per target so one neutralizes the other. In the end you're only making your kills take longer. Not to mention they're cheap to synthesize so who cares.

[@azog23]

So if you use a ship with more hardpoints, doubleshot frag cannons with the oversized experimental effect and then add premium ammo can you kill just about anything with one shot?

[@VindicatorJones]

I am going to try premium ammo next.

[@gianturtlecow1455]

Would to try your build, the link isn't working anymore :(

[@leinardesteves3987]

Post the build link man, the link's not working anymore

[@Droogie128]

The link to the build is broken

[@keksisthebetrayed8494]

anyone know what that thrust indicator thing in the upper left corner is? is it a mod?

[@holl-we4ir]

For being without speech, and aweful lot of words came out... Some IDK if they are real words, for instance "nucking futs"

[@VindicatorJones]

Not sure if being sarcastic, or maybe its just my Aussie slang, but Nucking Futs is a nicer way of saying..... Well, swap the F and N

[@cmdrbigdog3019]

You should do this with gaurdian shard cannons

[@omightyyoda]

omg that poor Adder hahaha

[@EveeHarting]

Farseer Gankers run these with Corrosive and incendiary.

[@Airtroops83]

IS NO ONE GUNNA SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE TYPE 7S PILOT BEING ZAP BRANNIGAN?!

[@P3C0L4]

i have seen many names...like i have seen Elvis Presley

[@alphaz3r040]

@@P3C0L4 yep, I was attacked by Warren Buffet

[@The_Jagerbomb]

I would like to see a challenger build

[@ranualfhunter1869]

And if you want even more dps, use the pacifier frag, longer range but fixed... BOOM BOOM BABY! Also overcharge provides a higher output on paper(not tested personally), but i would recommend one frag with the corrosive shell mod and it will melt anything, check it out s.orbis.zone/yzm_e_F7

[@jamesb6102]

Damn son..

[@randomassdude2734]

I am soooo building this

[@ArckerAsgeirr00]

I know this is a late comment but I'm a relatively newish Cmdr, I'm very interested in your shotgun Chief but when I click your build like to get an idea of what to am for it goes to a dead link and I was wondering if you could indulge me with a new loadout on coriolis.io. Thanks

[@sethterran2492]

one pip need for all tour frag cannons)

[@joshscott7401]

Zap Brannigan!

[@charliemannion2718]

And are these normal frags? If not how do I get them?

[@VindicatorJones]

Normal Frag Cannons engineered with double shot

[@charliemannion2718]

Vindicator Jones does this tactic work with single frags?

[@paintzemute6364]

two to three frags depending on what secondary effects you put on them

[@kriswelsh3844]

Did anyone else catch the Futurama reference at the very end of the vid? 😂

[@nunaballona6434]

Have these been nerfed, or are they still crazy good?

[@chrisallen5912]

Still good but the best option as of now is Overcharged with Screening Shell.

[@StarlancerAstro]

I prefer overcharged, double shot eats ammo way to quick

[@madddog7]

WOW!

[@im1penguin]

put 3 pacifiers on a krait. you won't regret it

[@VindicatorJones]

Urghh,,, that means being aligned to another power again... lol... I have been considering it.. but there is that lazy part of me that cant be bothered... but may have to do it

[@im1penguin]

I totally understand, lol

[@urded1145]

Has it been nerfed?

[@phillmillem8163]

Holly molly!!!

[@emiliouchila]

and this is why the frag cannons should not exist

[@Pondimus_Maximus]

That’s disgusting! I love it! 😀

[@squirrely_wrath]

screening shell and only one pip into weapons

[@randomuser2461]

s.orbis.zone/267e If it were possible it's 3000+DPS if you could somehow keep it filled with +30% ammo.(Ignore the bad choice of PD and other things. It's not a full build.) s.orbis.zone/2681

[@theepicgamer5824]

how come my frag cannons with DS only do about 1- 4% Damage and other players guns obliterate Condas in 3 bursts btw I got 4 engineered frag cannons with double shot on a AspX

[@lobsterboywonder]

Check the upload date, it's probably been nerfed

[@charliemannion2718]

Is this the new pve meta?

[@bashkillszombies]

Jones ruins another build by finally working it out. :(

[@psychicEgg]

With all due respect, these were all targets that didn’t know you were about to open fire, and so you could line up a perfect opening shot. In reality it can be quite hard to hit nimble targets with frags, would love to see a video demonstrating the piloting skills for a real frag battle

[@leinardesteves3987]

So don’t use this build on PvP. It’s meant for melting PvE ships

[@mike-0451]

can you please remove the obnoxious techno music in the background and replace it with classical thanks

[@bubbabenali]

Nice - too bad I'd need to restock every 5 minutes