Child vs Adult (Dave Rant)

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[@pauloyane]

You guys are constantly offensing me 😂 making me grow up. My parents died when I was 10, you guys are like my internet parents since the last 2 years. I'll never forget you

[@lalalanding234]

Wow

[@dreamluvr1600]

Broooo I feel you. My dad died when I was 8 and I don’t have a mother figure. I appreciate Dave and Shan so much I am so grateful I found them

[@austinbodiford6360]

Love this. On the point of "get over it and do it" it reminds me of when I played high school football. I was in the weight room lifting my freshmen year and my muscles were burning and I wanted to put the weight down or have someone take it from me. My coach got in my face and screamed "It's supposed to hurt." I sat in this coach's office months later and cried because I wanted comfort and wanted to go home and I was tired of running laps in the rain and throwing up and again my coach got in my face and said "I wanted to quit when I was in college, married, had 2 kids, 2 jobs and no money. You know what, if you want out, you gotta fight your way out. Be bigger than the pain" that was a turning point for me where I went from literally crying in the pain to shouting and laughing like a psychopath in the weight room and field. A switch had to get flipped. So thankful for that. 18 years later when the pain of life sets in, when I don't want to work 12+ hours to further the business, when I don't want to do the paperwork for the bills, when I don't want to put the work in with that difficult friend, I grit my teeth and laugh. It's not about making the pain go away. You have to to be bigger than the pain.

[@sophiaredwood5825]

I definitely need to learn this and take pointers, massive respect to you

[@CricketRodeo]

Amazing. Thanks for sharing that!

[@damanodrama]

This was hilarious. And also, Dave, really, when I am too serious about life, I always look at my fridges sticky notes, one note says “switch to Dave Superpowers mentality Right Now!” 😹 it works like a charm 🍀

[@sophiaredwood5825]

Hahaha! I love this!

[@sophiaredwood5825]

Watching these videos as a teenager really puts adulthood into perspective for me… and encourages me to work on my Si. And on all my other issues, lol. This ENFP is grateful for you guys 💞

[@Maya_Ruinz]

Leaving home at 18 and joining the military was easily the most important thing I did. I look at friends and family members who never grew up and still continue to do the same things they did in their 20s, partying, living at home and going back to their parents because they can’t handle their expenses. They are just unable to become the adult they should have been 15 years ago. Great video because it absolutely needs to be said to many people.

[@Maya_Ruinz]

@M Muss I honestly feel that everyone's experience is going to vary with the military. No matter where a women goes there will always be the possibility but overall the military was very professional. and I heard a few stories but I personally didn't experience any.

[@stabbrzmcgee825]

Basically, life can be challenging, but you have to deal with it. Ignoring it doesn't make it go away. Usually makes it worse, so deal with it even though it isn't fun.

[@dreamluvr1600]

What do you do if your brain is trying to convince you that you don’t have to deal with it, since suicide is an option

[@NadaAlawadhi]

Yeah I didn’t get hit by this until I was working, my life was weird, work sucked and I was crying about it, hating it and hating everyone in it and then I got into the 16 personalities and I learned more about myself and my insecurities and my problems and I realized that all of the problems I had with work were caused by me, and as soon as I went back with that new perspective, I was a different person, even everyone noticed, and I now love my job, and I no longer find it my enemy, it’s my savior.

[@NadaAlawadhi]

@Kosher it’s all about the change of perspective. Thank you for your comment as well.

[@J11_boohoo]

Those who experienced a lot of trauma and shitty childhood go to adulthood earlier and usually will experience and go back to that Disney bliss state earlier

[@somewhereisgone]

I keep thinking about all those shows and movies a lot of people grew up watching, me incuded, about holding onto the Innocence of youth, kids fighting adults and winning, telling them off for not caring about the NF bigger picture and worrying about shit like bills or work...so why if you're brainwashed like that do you wanna grow up? Not many people would if that's what it looks like. In a way, it brainwashes you out of taking your power back because you don't want to become what you hate. What a big fat lie. I for one didn't have a ton of good examples of what a capable adult was growing up, now all I want is to be an example of how awesome it is to be in charge of your own destiny. Thanks for the video, growing up shouldn't be so controversial of a topic. (Edit: typo)

[@georgecataloni4720]

Help me with my taxes, baby Jesus!

[@Psych21]

You got this George! Little bits at a time all the time start adding up to real progress!

[@JensGH]

Choosing to do whats hard makes your life easy, choosing to do whats easy makes your life hard.

[@darklight898]

Very very underrated comment

[@suryacoapy5129]

I once asked the smartest man I’ve ever met in all of my lifetimes “What is the purpose of the father?“ He answered “To rip the child away from the mother.“ All you say about rights of passage is true enough. And, we live in probably the most under-fathered generation in human history. It’s a major problem.

[@absinthesesotericadventure7631]

When I had kids I knew I had to start changing, having kids is no joke man it is painful, you have to forget yourself for a bit to deal with all the crazy stuff that will happen with the kids, having to take care of them, dealing with the mess, especially when you are so used to creating the mess lol, you get a real wake up call. That is when I told myself I can’t play with life no more, I can’t be wasting time

[@farisabdulhakim3112]

Omg Dave and Shan! Rewatching this video again hits me differently. Last year I just graduated from college. Up to this year I haven't found any stable job. I just realized how chaotic my family is. Many problem that I was unaware suddenly popped out of nowhere. Suddenly I am in a hard position which forces me to grind my way out. Thanks for the video knowing that I am not alone in this problem.

[@pterygopalatine]

I grew up at age 13 because of masculine Fi. I've been shoving on myself for 7 years now. Now I'm ready to give. Thanks guys. Couldn't have done it without your information.

[@mlandry491]

So the whole world needs boot camp, eh? Trolling? Child crushing? fucking hell... With all due respect, and I have much respect, I'm telling you from the future, as I have about a decade on each of you, that is not sustainable. It's exhausting. The whole world is not Goggins, and that kind of "good" pressure works on maybe one or two in a million. That is why we know folks like him by name. There are reasons why we a wired the way we are. You know this! there, all insightful, tag teaming the personalities... You have a very unique perspective, and see things that I cannot from where you sit. Yes. and Indeed, I have learned a great deal. You are on to something about personalities and the human condition, but bruh. Lately... idk . This pandemic emphasized just how close we are to not being. ( And not from a gazing out of my window instagramey sort of way. ) It almost got me. Covid nearly took me out. So I am seeing things with new eyes. From where I sit, We get our 24 hours each day. We may make the next 24 or we may not. One can bitch about your hours on this earth or live them out. I was in such disbelief that I may never leave my bed again in this life. You know, all the cliches', floating fever dreams. At one point I was low low saturation, terrified, basically dying, I started thinking of the next bit. I had not laid eyes on my sons, so I was wondering craziness, like can I see my sons after I am gone? Just thinking craziness. I came out of it a different person. Now I would never waste precious time dwelling on this sort of hopelessness in an exhausting fight of me against me. In the end, default programming takes over. We are one breath away to the next bit, but painting life black is a waste of resources and no way to be.

[@absinthesesotericadventure7631]

I often wonder what is one the other side as well, do we get to still see our loved ones. I felt your story, hope you are well

[@mlandry491]

@@absinthesesotericadventure7631 I am one of the lucky ones. Quite recovered. Thank you♡

[@blankifyme]

Wow. Thanks for sharing your perspective. I hope you keep feeling well and healthy.

[@TheGrandChieftain]

I don't know how I ended up in a cult.

[@JeriahMiller]

Lol 😂

[@renwannabe3237]

Well it is what it is. There's no way back might just adapt now 🤣

[@dylandaddyeg]

You two nail it so well.Thank you.

[@jessev7885]

Sooooo…. Work on your demons, own it and you grow up

[@jamierhf]

I KNEW Shan was from the future! Seriously though, GREAT video. Thank you for making such great content. More people need to hear this.

[@cory99998]

It's interesting in what ways you become an 'adult' when growing up in traumatic situations, and then what others ways you stay a naive child. I think the one thing I had early on was an adult's perspective on expectation management + a lack of outcome entitlement. Not expecting anything to be handed to me. When something goes wrong, accepting it and figuring out how I need to move forward from here. But in so many other areas of my life I'm still a naive child who can't face up to certain realities yet.

[@antipunt1]

I felt that Ni-Fi. Pretty great video, actually

[@VTdarkangel]

This sounds a lot like Jordan Peterson's "clean your room". Still good advice, just in Dave and Shan's words.

[@anonymouslearner2454]

Yes, their theories align a lot, I wonder what Jordon Peterson's views would be on OPS

[@VTdarkangel]

@@anonymouslearner2454 JP is a strong proponent of the OCEAN (or Big 5) model for personality. If you go through his online lectures about it, he's skeptic of the MBTI approach; however, I would suspect he would respect Dave and Shan's attempt to take a proper scientific approach to MBTI.

[@anonymouslearner2454]

@@VTdarkangel I see, thanks for sharing... I just started watching his videos It did seem to me that the aspects of MBTI he dislikes stem from subjectivity and self report errors

[@dreamluvr1600]

Except Dave and Shans video is 1000000000000000x more helpful and way way way better

[@noturbo]

sick and tired of being sick and tired.

[@notJafar]

I don't think age is necessarily a good indicator of when you're an 'adult'.

[@sophiaredwood5825]

Completely agree. At eighteen, they’re just giving a child more freedoms most of the time. I’ve met kids who act like adults and adults who act like kids. Pretty sure that once I turn eighteen, I’m only gonna consider it a small milestone in the lifetime that is growing up, hahaha

[@august_19]

Ie some president

[@7ose11e]

When you never got to be a kid 👽 unfortunate life hack, I guess?

[@wendybird7059]

I’m going to disagree…life isn’t *hard*. When you are really done with whining about it. It’s a challenge. A grand adventure. I get to dismantle my world view as many times as I want. Pain makes the joy possible. It ebbs and flows. It’s a ride. Weeeeee

[@kyunhwoarang]

After the tidal wave hit me, I'm still finished college in 10 years.. I think I still have the same blindspots but I don't know what is it exactly.. So what if it was because of someone else? It is really a chaos to figure out. But I get what you guys mean. The hero's journey. Except that's from a TE perspective and I don't have that. On a deeper level, you need coordination on a global scale. As you can imagine, the effort to undermine this coordination had long been underway. What it not been so, there would not be a war for anyone to fight. But history teaches us so we don't repeat it.

[@Luxmans]

I split into 3 categories: Child - others have responsibility to me Adult - I am responsible to myself Ealdorman - I have responsibilities to others I use Ealdorman, as I dislike the term "Parent" in this context. But the progression from child to parent reflects this continuum well.

[@greenlimabean]

I'm intp and LOVE this presentation. I could never show it to my ESFJ husband. He'd be appalled and not only that. He'd shut off to mbti altogether. But, man, do I dig this straight forward, rough way of presenting info. They call me the ego slayer. (They don't, but I wish.)

[@HexagonSun990]

This offended me at first 😂 you were so angry

[@ryanrowe1400]

I’m a big NF fan! Glad you used an NF song for something a lot of NF types might struggle with haha

[@cross-eyedmary6619]

Enabling should be called disabling.

[@irv384]

Today my issues were so beyond me I needed both my parents... This video is dragging me.

[@emma-c1]

Jesus has saved me (salvation) but this is so used by God to help people know their blind spots to personality. God lead me here and it makes me a better Christian because I don't want to be so off balance. Praise God. Thank u Dave and Shan xx 🇦🇺

[@davidegaruti2582]

ok , i ask one question : why live ? if life ends up being just endless fighting , every single day , why keep living like that till our death , just to enjoy a small break between "fights" , it's depressing imo , as someone who probably dipped it's feet in it it just feels awful ...

[@5idi]

Yeah, they exaggerated. I mean, that can actually scares more than encourage. I didn't find anything in this world worth investing in for 18 hours a day, 8 months, not even the things I enjoy. I guess it helps some people... But overall, analyzing your own behavior and finding where you CAN grow up is actually useful and will make you proud of yourself.

[@5idi]

@Kosher They do try to help and their message is good, it's just the way it's presented. Many people - the more sensitive ones - can react very bad. Even their example - those who fought the Nazis - were they ALL happy and proud? For many of them it was too much to live with. But the message itself is legit: analyze yourself. You might have been raised wrong or even abused and it's not your fault how you are today, but you have the power to improve it. See what battles you CAN win, and you'll surely be proud and relieved once you're through it. Overcoming at least some of your fears, dependences and weaknesses IS bliss. I like your approach. Balance and solace is my direction too.

[@christianinzunza293]

Yeah you are right, jordan peterson explains this perfectly, since life pretty much sucks, you have to find something meaningful to live despite the tragedy of life

[@dreamluvr1600]

That’s what I’m saying. I have chronic pain and I think if life becomes too much ima just dip

[@idekanymore3669]

when u already feel like this but ur only 16: 😍🤪🤣🤣🤣

[@anonymouslearner2454]

Why does the world have to be that way Theoretically, if we all have opposite personalities among us, why can't we create a system of working such that "you do your saviours, I'll do mine"? That way, everyone has something to offer and can focus on mastering their saviours even more

[@PowerRedBullTypology]

Well, that is what you can do in a relationship if they are oppositional of you

[@mrb0239]

I think you can! Dave is just saying if you want to be the best version of yourself you have to battle your demons. At the end of the day though, your saviors do become naturally strong. So yes, everyone is participating in a unique way already. I agree we can continue to work on our saviors. It's who we are! And Dave can be much harsher than Drent about saviors

[@anonymouslearner2454]

I see, thank you both of you 🤍

[@dylonias]

I love you guys. But we're never going to see eye to eye on this one. The "complain" energy still means expressing your demons, no? "I desire this thing." It's FAR better to be a complaining idiot than to refuse to share your demons. Babies will grow up. Removing yourself from life is a fucking bastard to undo.

[@dylonias]

Been thinking about this. The "child" in my mind is like your #2 in the journey - a kid that wants to be adult. If you can do that, take responsibility for it, and still express pain, you can become the adult. Language is problematic. I hear you say "child" and I think "BAD," which isn't the way to do it. No child is purely a complainer. Neither is any alpha adult free from child energy. And you'll really fuck yourself up by not telling your owies out of fear of being labeled a "complainer" or a "child." That's basically it. "Child" should not equal "complainer." The hero has both identities and balances them. Don't Ni my childhood, bro.

[@drbugbait]

Sorry, Dave, can't do that. I got more consume to do. 😎

[@drwizarrd4421]

lol Intuitives and their analogies man. well said

[@suryacoapy5129]

Dave, Dave, Dave. Do we need to talk?

[@StephanieJeanne]

Right on, you guys! Great message!👍✌️

[@kellikakes81]

I was that weirdo kid that couldn't wait to become and be an adult...pay bills,own a house, be responsible on my own terms, not listen to my parents lol. And I'm ENFP so that technically makes no sense lol. But I have related to this, at certain points in life -- especially during '08 recession -- and I went through this phase for a bit. But life eventually tells you "man up " and "get cho' life!"

[@chriswalker2562]

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[@chriswalker2562]

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[@sophiaredwood5825]

Actually, I’m a fellow ENFP, and that makes perfect sense. The “don’t control me bro” mentality can often drive ENFPs to take over their own lives and get the ball rolling. Oftentimes it’s the only reason I get anything done, hahaha

[@kellikakes81]

@@sophiaredwood5825 ahhh!! Yes, I see. You're right. That's our motivation.

[@Beyondflix]

Needed to hear this today!

[@adeyefrem9488]

Thank you for this!

[@sasastojanovic6167]

You know what funny is i had that thought bout my self when I set alone with myself and thought trough it is was like telling myself kill that bastard that's inside of you

[@adecakasio6482]

well i think actually there is. there are lots of rites but they are not treasured anymore. think of churchs communion or confirmation (age 14) or the a-levels in school (age 18). you could interpret it like that, right? I think the key point is to make it your responsibility to demand respect from others. they don't know you want to be an adult because it's special nowadays. and the bad thing is- if you are always treated as child of course you will stay one. but don't let yourself be laughed at when all you try to do is being an adult. because for many you are a big role model already. ;)

[@kimtopology4257]

I had to be an adult at 13 been there done that now I deserve Disney land lol!

[@claudeyanly5356]

The first video on child vs. adult was one of the best... This one's good too

[@joelrankin]

This is one of the best things on the internet right now.

[@kr-666]

Fuck I'm 18 and I know that there's going to be hell in the future but I don't want it arrrrrgh!

[@dreamluvr1600]

Same im 20 and I don’t see myself being able to handle it.

[@tfranc347]

fucking awesome message. Thank you guys

[@meghanahanchate8667]

Much needed talk♥️

[@breakfastenjoyer]

dave you mentioned bullwinkles lol did you go to a school in florida??

[@eliano6685]

Love it❤️🙏🏻

[@elises8825]

Rosemary

[@worldwidehappiness]

Come on. Let's have some critique of the social context that demands mastery of endless bullshit. Have they ever questioned society?

[@dreamluvr1600]

What do you think they’re referring to and what are you referring to. Also how old are you

[@worldwidehappiness]

They are saying that we are less than what we should be, i.e. that we are children and need to become adults. But look at our situation. We evolved from primitive creatures in a gigantic confusing universe that features pain, restriction, and death. And we have glands pumping drugs into us 24/7. Also, we were given no instruction manuals for our bodies or this planet. Despite all of that, we have developed huge amounts of knowledge, built incredible cities, and travelled to the moon. Individually, we study for 10 years, raise kids, work for 40 years, operate complex technology, and help strangers. We are awesome! Dave and Shan are just channelling society's negative view of human beings, inherited from ancient times when people were clueless. It's time for us to step back and re-evaluate our motivations, assumptions, and contexts. I'm tired of thought leaders who behave like zombies by being unwilling to question obvious illusions.

[@tikatikb]

Yep the Js talked here, noted! Less lonelier. We never know about time so get deal with it.

[@smile6889]

Thank you 🙏

[@Klarpimier]

Okay.... Why should you grow up then?

[@Klarpimier]

Answer: if you want to make an impact on the world you’ll need to grow up

[@N0URii]

You will be eventually, but we need to practice thats the point of the video.

[@emma-c1]

This is sooooooo good

[@FlowState]

This is excellent 😆

[@che4840]

i wish i got worse sooner

[@wawede]

poor kiddo

[@nishbrown]

I beat all of the Nazi's I had lined up for the week, at work, in 30 minutes of extra effort today.

[@MrLuigiFercotti]

This isn't Scientology is it?

[@oletshetlo5049]

Wow!

[@MrScrews24]

lol love it ...rant on my friends rant on!

[@windya444]

Love me some nf 🥰

[@djdiaries536]

I just want my bottle whaaaa

[@annatigreat2050]

Lmao does watching slaughterhouse videos at 13 count as a rite of passage? Left me quite traumatised for a few years, now I'm 17 and just graduated high-school

[@FlashDriveFilms]

Siddhartha.

[@noturbo]

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee 😁😁😁😁

[@emma-c1]

Yaaaay give your life to Christ 🙏💞🙏🤗 (silly Fe emojis)

[@therougesage7466]

Second lol why this dude up here beat me

[@laurenlacey283]

You should marry your girlfriend and stop b-sing her? That would make your audience take you more seriously....and tone down the cursing."?..

[@dreamluvr1600]

Omg I thought they were married

[@orangeziggy348]

They are married and have a child.