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[@robertcovell2787]

When I was a kid we flew control liners with 35's and 40's no mufflers, no ear muffs. We rode out bikes with no helmets. We jumped off the bridge into the river. We went out in the canoe without life jackets. I never expected to live to 77 years old and I can still fly models!

[@joshuawfinn]

For what it's worth, we don't use hearing protection with cox engines, and I can't wear a helmet and chase on my dirt bike because, well, it gets seriously in the way. The reason we wear muffs with these is they are easily twice as loud as a really hot cox engine, and it's just painful to run them without muffs. Anyway, we still know how to have fun here!

[@rayray8687]

We did that too, and some of us even lived!

[@1027sterling]

Dad of the Year award!

[@RRED2]

Lovely seeing you with your children having fun and making good memories 😊

[@StephenFauble]

Glad to see the engines run well. Keep teaching the boys well.

[@joshuawfinn]

They're great, and those tuned propellers seem to make a big difference. I expect an additional power boost when they get proficient with bladder feed.

[@skateboardingjesus4006]

That looks fun. Your kid is a very attentive young man and you can see the resemblance very strongly. I've always loved tinkering with balsa and have built all sorts of contraptions over the years and many planes. From Ireland, have a great one and keep instilling that fascination.

[@joshuawfinn]

They both do an amazing job. If you can't tell, glow is their favorite power source!

[@lasersbee]

That's how I started Flying.... Free Flight with Cox .049 almost 60 years ago. No timer. Waited for Nitro to run out (about 1 minute). Then running across multiple farmer's fields to retrieve... Ah... The good old days. Glad my dad (he had no interest) was not there to yell at me....😂😉

[@joshuawfinn]

Caleb's first model had a Peewee on an eyedropper tank, but there aren't many classes today where you can get in flights without a timer, hence their usage. Those 7 second run limits don't allow room for error!

[@generessler6282]

Haha. Yeah my brother and I flew Cox .020 free flight for a while. Some epic losses to trees finally led me to build a pulse rudder-only rig. All this started me on a lifelong path of engineering: military, civil, facilities, teaching, electronics, software. What a terrific hobby and way of life... "Simple service, simply given, to their own kind, in their common need."

[@lasersbee]

@@generessler6282 I hear you. I own and operate my own Electronics Research Company since I was 19. Never lookked back. Now I fly RC and FPV Models from 400mm to 8 foot spans.

[@lasersbee]

@@joshuawfinn Safety Restrictions are Great for the younger Pilots. Once you get to be an adult with RC experience, Restricting RC Toys seem to be Government Overreach.

[@jumpingjacks5558]

Your kids are great. They will carry on the legacy to their children. Awesome.

[@triskellian]

I love seeing you and Hope working with your boys in the hobby! Those young men are learning the craft quite well !

[@peterveen3819]

Super daddy, great video. So nice!!!

[@vady64]

Когда-то я тоже занимался в авиамодельном кружке по этому классу моделей, спасибо за видео, удачи. 👍👍👍🤝

[@Tom-wl9sx]

My first engine was a Cox 049, still love them. Great flying, and a beautiful plane.🙂

[@user-pu7iu3qo5g]

What a wonderful legacy for these kids. Bless them and you

[@chipwright6193]

That looks like a lot of fun! I never knew they made a timer like that for those little engines.

[@larryfisher7056]

Im 74 and I still have one of those Tick-off timers floatig around in my flight box from when I used to fly 049 about 60 years ago.

[@PeterScholl621]

Beautiful flight 😊

[@steventortora4487]

Making memories for the kid's and teaching, what a good father ❤🎉 .

[@jamesrobertson9597]

I'm a 60 year-old man, but I'm definitely available for adoption! Seriously, this is awesome. Those kids will remember doing this stuff with you forever.

[@joshuawfinn]

If you're ever able to meet up with us at a flying event, you're welcome to join in the fun!

[@bigboy9693]

It is great to see the whole family involved.

[@osmw]

Just per chance, this video popped up on my feed - and I loved all of it. As a fellow kit manufacturer (albeit on the R/C side of things), being able to share the joy of aeromodeling as a family affair is an amazing thing. Keep up the great work and I look forward to seeing you all in action in future videos.

[@joshuawfinn]

Thanks so much for your kind words! I've been following Joshua Orchards OSMW builds and y'all make some cool stuff. Keep up the good work!

[@douglasslayback3441]

Pretty airframe…boys doing it! I think the whole family will be in the AMA record book soon! 👍

[@joshuawfinn]

They've got a couple of indoor records. 😀

[@carloscollomps1552]

O flew a similar one model "Origone plane" in a competition and that thing flew great and didn't stop, it got lost in the horizon, then a few minutes later it somehow turned back and flew past overhead us, then when we tought it was going to fly away it crashed in a tall tribune of a nearby rugby stadium. They gave me 2 gold medals for that, and i still have them.

[@ozmazone]

Geodesic structures are the most beautiful things ever, I think. Well done the Finn family!

[@johnkamm386]

Family time with Dad

[@smacfe]

So awesome! Yeah, that was me, with a Ramrod 250 with an Atwood Shriek. Coming home with a huge smile and shredded legs from running through the weeds all day long.

[@joshuawfinn]

Oh yeah!!!

[@andymodeller965]

Great dad and great kids. Nicely done. 👍

[@free_flight_field]

Nice flight! I'm looking forward to the future of these kids.

[@WilliamCChapin]

Awesome parenting, Josh and Hope! Your family is awesome. 🥰

[@joshuawfinn]

Thanks!

[@WilliamCChapin]

@@joshuawfinn You’re welcome! Your free flight stuff amazes me - I’ve done plenty of R/C (sport, pattern and Q500 at the local level) and some control line stunt competition. I’ve only fooled around a little with small free flight gliders like the Merlin and Sweepette. A control line stunt guy named Dan Banjock had my Golden Retriever fetching them after hours at the Nats in Muncie 20 years ago!

[@ememeable]

WOW Exactly now i want to make one love it

[@MrBoehol]

Very nice video. It reminds me of my first try with aeromodels nearly 60 yers ago. Nice to see that you protect your ears. Very important. Keep up the good work. Regards Bjorn in Sweden.

[@stearman52]

What a beautiful video!

[@alanspring8462]

Happy I subscribed. I love to see when it's family time.❤❤❤

[@Burnersforvanlife]

Loved it, from the u.k.

[@m1kalD]

A Beautiful video thank you

[@duskintheforest584]

I had a Cox Flying Tiger with that little glow plug kerosene motor. Control line. The longer the line, the better. Less dizzy that way. Never crashed it. Few rough landings, but i walked away...lol!

[@joshuawfinn]

They're fun aren't they?

[@robh9079]

EPIC!! Personally i would add a rudder to save on the tree climbing though if you are competing......

[@joshuawfinn]

These are for freeflight competition. Part of the challenge (and the learning outcome) is to create a stability scheme that results in a steady flight pattern without outside inputs.

[@tedmoss]

Pretty nice, when I was 6 my father and I flew FF rubber and .049 powered models, when I was 9-10 years old I built my first R/C model, a Ken-Hi Buzzard. I am going to finish my replica of my first model soon and fly it with electric power and three channels.

[@joshuawfinn]

Wonderful memories!

[@user-jx8xo1rd8c]

This is a very Nice Video, My Father an I have got a Lot of Modellplanes from my Fathers Cousin Ernst who is Dead .

[@67hr74]

Great video, teaching your kids. bring them up with all the "learn too" models. I see your other son had a HLG too. I used to fly FAI power, Super tigre G15, 4 function seelig timer. Still have the engine and timer as well as a fuel cut off timer like the one you have on the model. I've not seen the Servo assist DT, thats beaut.

[@joshuawfinn]

I still run planes on Seeligs, and have several ST .15 engines. They are excellent runners. Ron Young of Cox fame still does tuning on them and also does ground-up builds and rebuilds of Rossis and Conquests. His Conquests will keep up with anything out there.

[@edsherrod5216]

Good for you! I didn't get a glow fuel model until I received (after nagging for years) a Cox PT-19 control line trainer when 12 years old. I had no help getting it into the air and it didn't last long...

[@chris-adams-tas]

Magic.

[@oo-oh3wy]

So cute❤

[@afrog2666]

Wow, those little engines are louder than Cox 0.8`s, very cool though 👍

[@joshuawfinn]

Yeah red hot screaming things. Very fun!

[@nigel900]

Always “DT” the “MA” before you “KJ” the “ML”… but not before you “RX” the “TP” half down the “VU”.

[@sawtooth4615]

I remember some contest free flighters rigged up a rudder trim tab that was spring loaded to a natural slow circular turn when the mechanical timer shut off. They rigged up a cable system that held the trim tab neutral under power and when the timer tripped, the cable would release and the spring loaded trim tab would put the plane in a nice slow circle.

[@joshuawfinn]

Yeah we still do that on open AMA gas planes, and the next F1P models the boys build will have both auto rudder and auto stab as allowed by the rules.

[@sawtooth4615]

@@joshuawfinn I build a 1/2 A class Free flight from a kit called a starduster. This was in the early 60s. The only engine I had was a Cox 049. It flew ok but then the new Cox TeeDee series came out. They were screamers. It would do a full vertical and then fall over into a flat glide. I couldn't afford mechanical timers so we all used glass eye drop tubes for fuel and the old fuse type and rubberband DT system. LOL Pretty crude.

[@joshuawfinn]

@@sawtooth4615 nothing wrong with that! I've flown a bunch of 1/2A 'Dusters (and larger ones) and loved all of them. TD is a great engine on that plane, although with a good stiff wing you can use newer stuff.

[@sawtooth4615]

@@joshuawfinn I only went to one contest with it and got three max's with it and it was the only contest free flight I ever had. I've actually looked to see if the kit or the plane still exists.

[@jack002tuber]

Very cool. So I know nothing about this, what is "DT it"? You said that a lot.

[@robh9079]

De -Thermaliser. This limits the flight time - the tailplane pops up and the model descends quickly but gently to the ground as you see. You would lose these models easily otherwise. The old school DT's are the clockwork mech that they have(possibly necessary for the comp rules) - looks as though they have a radio back-up. If it were radio controlled you could steer it those these guys are comping in free-flight events.

[@jack002tuber]

@@robh9079 Ok, I see. Thank you much for the reply

[@thomasmeadows256]

❤

[@DulalAlauddin]

The superb predictability of drones is nothing compared to this. Nostalgy..

[@ememeable]

How to get your model plane down from a Tree Where's your Drone Fokes I am thinking of attaching something else other than a camera to a Drone That something else maybe a robotic arm that can stretch out and hook unto things or pick things up etc Whats your take on that ? Sincerely Ejike

[@jack002tuber]

I was thinking that too. A hook on a string might do it

[@joshuawfinn]

We tried that a few times and it went...poorly. The three main issues are the payload capacity of the drone, instability from wind whipping the retrieval line around, and the very real danger of getting the line wrapped around a tree branch, crashing the drone (I've seen that happen a few times).

[@qwerty_____146]

🎉❤

[@dwpix]

Dad is a bit of a control freak?

[@ememeable]

Hi Dad I was just wondering if we can deploy such models For the Boys and Girls Scout It can can be used in cases of emergency to signal for Help It will require a little modification however not much The propellers can spin with a wind-up mechanism rather than a fuel engine It is a great model plane Sincerely Ejike

[@joshuawfinn]

That's an interesting idea and worth investigating.

[@JamesPontious]

What is that thing called and how does it work . The thing that brings them almost straight down .

[@robh9079]

The De-Thermailser (or 'DT'). The tailplane pops up into a steep angle - traditionally a clockwork timer mech releasing an elastic band activator.

[@JamesPontious]

@robh9079 thanks , I don't recall seeing that before. Ive been rc flying over 50 yrs. Very interesting .

[@robh9079]

@@JamesPontious Strictly a free flight device - I'm an RC flyer though I saw those as a child when RC was super expensive (c.10x) and was restricted to control line and free flight. These guys are are showing us how it's done properly - the trimming aspect is fascinating and quite involved. I am UK therefore in BMFA, and their magazine has a regular on free flight - RC is what it's about for me though!

[@CASHSEC]

He can't hear you with Stop,Stop???

[@KennethLWagner-yw9ko]

hearing protection ? for what ?

[@leifvejby8023]

For the ears.

[@jack002tuber]

The engines are very loud it seems

[@joshuawfinn]

These aren't Cox engines...They're quite a bit noisier than a regular 049 engine.

[@KennethLWagner-yw9ko]

@@joshuawfinn on such a tiny plane ?

[@joshuawfinn]

@@KennethLWagner-yw9ko 25-27k rpm. They don't have mufflers, and they're true open exhaust, so it's loud enough to be uncomfortable. The ones running pressure feed turn anywhere between 30 and 35k rpm which is extra painful (these will be configured that way in the next year as the boys get more comfortable with fuel bladders).

[@steveo726]

Doodlebug ww2

[@GurpreetSingh-eu7mr]

👌🏻👍

[@mrbmp09]

I don't get it, you are 90% of the way to a REAL RC plane/ glider. I learned to fly on a 6' wingspan RC monarch butterfly balsa kit with a .049 cox engine over 40 years ago. Those 2 kids would learn to fly very quickly, especially with the Sims available.

[@charlesphilips2920]

what radio or transmitter did you have were the jr crystal radios out yet

[@robh9079]

Looks like they are into the free-flight competition thing, which is a world of it's own.

[@charlesphilips2920]

@@robh9079 yea it is i did lots of free flight ama nats 1/2A gas A2s discus messed with controll line stuff

[@joshuawfinn]

@mrmbmp09, anyone can fly RC. Free Flight requires the builder/operator to actually understand what's going on. This is why Neil Armstrong, Jimmy Stewart, etc, flew FF even when they had the funds an opportunity to fly RC, and why Armstrong always focused his youth mentoring on Control Line and Free Flight instead of RC.

[@DownsouthMan]

I gave u a thumbs up until you said stab.

[@joshuawfinn]

Ooookaaaayyy...