Children Of Dune 5 Leto II & Ghanima - She defends Leto

[@klyanadkmorr]

Since StarWars implied Force connected Skywalkers were ripoff of the DUNE Twins in underlying mental/psychic/sexual connections - FAN AU The twins have been connected prebirth psychic with memories of all their ancestors and each other. - archiveofourown.org/works/57286?view_adult=true

[@qetoun]

Starwars was a campy B-movie rip off of Dune. We all see it now.

[@klyanadkmorr]

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[@uncahay]

Ghanima remembers the nerve induction test from all three points of view. She has the memories of her father (Paul), her grandmother (Jessica) AND her great grandmother (Reverend Mother Mohiam).

[@GiasJulii]

Where is it ever said that the old reverend mother is Jessica's mother? I have read (just last month) children of dune and when Jessica speaks of remembering her mother she never says it as RM Mohiam or did I miss that somewhere?

[@klyanadkmorr]

@@GiasJulii Ugh I forgot that bit of info I kept remembering was from the new Brian Herbert back story on DUNE. So now I reject it. The reason was taking the unstated communication going on between the Rev & Jessica was kinda reserved judgemental but motherly distant to explain the Alia resenting how Jessica continued that parental Bene Geserit aloofness. It's been so long since I read a few of Brian books I've unconsciously incorporated it into the original canon without thinking even as I've been rereading(listening audiobooks) the stories. But I don't pick the movies apart over different points and forget thinking something was book DUNE story when it's changed for the movies. The only 2 I've really recently focused know differences on has been Syfy ChildrenofDune(includes Messiah) & the books so know how things are altered.

[@marysueeasteregg]

I'm willing to accept the "genetic memory" which would bequeath Ghanima Paul's memories of that event, which occurred prior to her own conception. It would be like an extra-powerful form of epigenetic memory, stamped on Paul's cells and passed down. But the events you refer to happened *after* Jessica conceived Paul, and ("granting" that Helen is Jessica's mother) *after* Helen conceived Jessica. Totally different matter, that. How can future events, things which have not even happened, be passed down on the germ cell line? As far as I am concerned, Ghanima's -- or Leto's -- shared memories of "being" Jessica should stop at Jessica's conception of Paul. Their shared memories of "being" Paul should stop at their own conception. Nothing that happened to Jessica or Paul after those points could be carried down genetically. And likewise, for each of their ancestors. I don't remember how Frank Herbert handled that issue; and my very brief foray into Brian's work was quickly terminated.

[@evamasters5028]

I think your analysis of genetic memory is correct. However, Paul and all his ascendants have ability to see past and future, so all these things are accessible to them at a whole another level, arguably more accurate than memory, as it is not limited the one with the memory. I think both this conversation and even more the one with Leto, show how Jessica is unable to understand the twins, she lacks faculties which they have and their cognition and understanding is on a whole another level.

[@andrewmelnikov292]

@@evamasters5028 I'd also like to add that in Chapterhouse Dune Reverend Mothers were able to "synchronize" memories on physical contact. Of course, the events of the book are a few thousand years into the future from this moment... but those Bene Gesserit are descendants of Ghanima and Farad'n. So maybe - just maybe - this ability first manifested in their generation, and they could absorb Jessica's "fresh" memories.

[@DG-gx4sg]

All the main actresses in this miniseries were so gorgeous

[@christopherkerns639]

Alice Krige has always been an exceptional actress! She is way to underrated! Her voice is absolutely amazing!

[@danielh5159]

great scene, great acting

[@TheToadChild]

I can’t help it, I love the Dune movies!

[@pittland44]

The spice must flow.

[@junlee6663]

So much better and truer to the books than the movie. Have u read the books? I was so disappointed in the stuff his son and his ghost writer did. I hope they do God Emperor some day. Gale Gadot my pick for Siona. Hmm who for Moneo and Hwi Noree?

[@dirdib69]

The Reverend Mother Helen Gaius Mohiam was in fact Jessica's mother, something that Ghanima would likely know at this point.

[@klyanadkmorr]

I like that it's implied in the way Ghanima looks and acts so compassionate and tender(flower in her hair and gentle caress) to Jessica her Granmother. It not like a grand daughter but more in the memory of a Mother to a daughter as how I saw the scene. She let Jessica know she knows the memories are a danger of subverting her identity personality when she corrected herself 'I REMEMB......I've been told' per her father Paul's gomjabar test.

[@TheToadChild]

dirdib69 And the Baron was her father!

[@ZotoTVChile]

In fact, Jessica's mother is Tanidia Nerus, not R.M. Gaius Helen Mohiam. Frank Herbert makes it clear in "Dune Messiah"

[@josephnarvaez9507]

ZOTO TV Tanidia Nerus is Gaius Helen Mohiam.

[@tdugong]

@@ZotoTVChile canon changed by the books written by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson, I'm afraid.

[@SkywalkerSamadhi]

Shouldn't Jessica have the blue eyes of the Fremen?? She had them in the miniseries before this at the very least.. I think in the novel as well, but can't remember.

[@klyanadkmorr]

Apart from saving CGI $ as Hallmark studios & Syfy channel weren't HBO rich, it's in the text or Dune encyclopedia(I've forgotten & some commenter mentioned it in another vid comments) for Bene Gesserit trained like Irulan & Jessica (who was off Arrakis back at Caladan for a decade) spice users in the Empire hid their eyes with contact lenses because they were treated like drug addicts because their eyes were blue, just like samuta users or the stuff mentats took made physical stains tells.

[@SkywalkerSamadhi]

@@klyanadkmorr oh, that's interesting. I never knew anyone tried to hide them b

[@VideoMask93]

@@SkywalkerSamadhi The original novel has a brief moment where a Guildsman loses a contact lens to reveal a blue-within-blue eye.

[@klyanadkmorr]

@@kennethmelnychuk9737 Don't you READ other previous comments? I straight out said most of it is cheap CGI not keeping up with all scenes but Ghanima has blue eyes in most all other especially with Leto scenes

[@klyanadkmorr]

@@valeriy8502 Don't you READ other previous comments? I straight out said most of it is cheap CGI not keeping up with all scenes but Ghanima has blue eyes in most all other especially with Leto scenes

[@janspup6232]

My daughter Alia Anne after anne Boleyn , obviously i like powerful women.

[@abmong]

And crazy

[@brianlindee8891]

I would have liked to have this movie converted over to blu ray out was vary good not just the story but the effects but I was more for the the small things as well as the story the clothing to the design of the city and the music

[@vine01]

there is Bluray everything Dune including both miniseries.

[@crazyal8565]

It was done beautifully

[@Haldinyar]

The garden of betrayal! Let’s have a super awkward sit on that bench lol, if Ghani wasn’t hot that would’ve been weird.

[@davidreilly9456]

The Children of Dune, the quality of the acting in it seems to outshine the first two...

[@MeredithHagan]

Better direction. As much as I love David Lynch he intentionally directs to get the cheesiest possible performances out of his actors. And the 2000 mini was just bad, bad direction, patchy screenplay, BIZARRE costuming. CoD is one of the rare sequels that completely outstrips it’s predecessor.

[@paulziolo9241]

I hope we won’t still be like this in 12,000 years time.

[@lorzon]

Why not? We've been like this for at least that long already. Humanity will always be fearful of the dark and willing to forego freedom for some perceived security. It is up to all of us to create the "Golden Path" that secures freedom for all mankind and not just those who think to rule it with lies and manipulation. That is one of the many lessons of Muad'dib.

[@OreadNYC]

Quite frankly, given the direction in which we are currently headed and the breakneck speed at which we are headed there, we'll be damned lucky (or unlucky, depending on your perspective) to survive for another 1000 years -- never mind another 12,000.

[@wantanamera]

@@OreadNYC 1000 years? 😂😅 ..more like 50

[@MattFyrm]

Let it be known that in the book ghanima is 9.

[@Mechulus]

Sure, in Arrakis years. Since its orbit is double that of earth, you'll need to multiply her age by 2. (not true, but solves a problem, so why not?)

[@jayedeveraux]

what was the word she used at 2:20/2:21?

[@MontyMoleMatt]

Secher Nbiw - ancient Egyptian for golden path

[@ZotoTVChile]

Secher Nbiw

[@davidzelaya4358]

Were do I find this mini series? Iv seen the 2000 mini series but I can seem to find this one

[@klyanadkmorr]

I have it posted in kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGXWiJSKhNaLrqc my resources and it's embedded to streamwatch directly or download in 3 parts

[@homoerectus6953]

even the modern films dont treat the source material as good as this, the visuals may be lacking compared to today but they do respect the source..............

[@lukasboruvka5151]

Perfection is an illusion, a lie