China’s MASSIVE Desert Project Is About To Change The World

[@UndecidedMF]

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[@gavinmckee9211]

Demonstrably, as broken down in Home Power magazine by brilliant folks for decades, the only partially positive application of wind and solar is home generation, like your house! all these mega projects are bad for nature and the ecosphere generally.

[@mat_j]

Matt pls check out the New Atlas for geopolitics

[@michaelmayhem350]

6:16 everyone always calls china the massive polluter but if you take all carbon emissions from the start of the industrial revolution through today, the USA is the largest the UK is 2nd & China is 3rd.

[@alexdubois6585]

This is great but it is quite depressing to look at the size of the surfaces required to generate green energy. How many square metres of solar are required by US citizen today?

[@mat_j]

@@michaelmayhem350 also they never talk about per capita pollution. than USA would be the biggest pollutor

[@dodley130]

For all those complaining about covering desert land with solar panels ,I will go as far as to say, it increases biodiversity in the desert biome by offering shade to desert animals. All the buildings in the world are covering the earth surface as well. Why aren't people complaining about it, when it's china it's an issue. The surface area of china is about 9 million square miles, 8 SQ miles is negligible. It's the best interest for the whole world if china does these projects, we don't share land boundaries but we share atmosphere, the fight against global warming is global and we should encourage such projects, it might be the most future proof project in the world, but at this point we don't have time to work out the most future proof solution ever. Anything that moves towards the goal is great. We encourage countries to switch from coal to natural gas, from coal to any other generation means there is

[@Gebri3l]

The animals that live in the desert are made for the desert, not for some shades. if the fight against global warming is global then think global, what happens west of that area that's covered

[@MrGarrax]

I also want to chip in, the increasing temperatures speed up desertification so these massive parks can also be used as a barrier to prevent the land behind them. However to actually prevent their deserts from expanding they would need to build much more than just 8 SQ miles. The current green wall project is like 2800 miles long - that is the kind of scales we are dealing with here it is absolutely humongous and it needs to be. There is a lot of work to be done not only in China everywhere.

[@avilesandres]

@@Gebri3l desert animals need shade and are most active at night, not just because they evolved to live in the desert means they need direct sun light exposure. In fact, shade is a necessity for virtually all animals that live in deserts. (source: I live in the Sonoran desert 🏜️🏜️)

[@avilesandres]

Agree 💯 👍🏻

[@kerbodynamicx472]

@@Gebri3lby your logic, we will never get anything done. No, a desert is a barren land and creatures living there are very scarce.

[@jopo7996]

What's with all the 'solar hate' in the comments? Solar is reliable, and has no moving parts. We put panels on our cottage in Ontario 22 years ago. The panels still look brand new and the system has been flawless.

[@StratumPress]

Photons are overrated.

[@LazyLifeIFreak]

Some people are very bitter that their stocks in coal production will be threatened in the future. Scientific illiteracy is another leading cause, these people simply can't and in many cases simply refuse to educate them selves. A third and much more likely option is trolls surfing across any and all solar power related comment sections just to piss people off and spew vile hatred against something that has absolutely no influence on their own lives.

[@peachulemon]

Canada slow adoption of solar in rural areas is actually crazt. Im happy we use nuclear but we could do so much better

[@martin096]

​@@jagsfanrickthe lies?

[@trispretty]

Paid by the fossil fuel industry to spread lies/hate?

[@kckoay6211]

China and the United States released 11.4 and 5.1 billion metric tons of carbon dioxide in 2022 respectively. But on a per capita basis, the Americans accounted for almost twice as much greenhouse gases than their Chinese counterparts. Another takeaway is that, measured in dollar terms, China accounts for almost 30% of the world manufacturing outputs, or twice as much as that produced by the U.S. And that is achieved on the back of per capita energy consumption at half of that of the United States. Had China not moved towards green and efficient use of energy, what would China’s greenhouse gas emission be in order to produce 30% of the manufactured goods for the world?

[@ck1416]

Let's not forget military emission of US are omitted from calculations

[@backpackpepelon3867]

Because major means of transport in US is cars, while in China, its public transport (train/LRT). Also major goods are moved in US using trucks, while they use train in China. Lobbying by certain group of interest in US prevented their modernization of public transport, hence the over dependence on cars and trucks.

[@MS-wz9jm]

Western countries dont like to hear stats like this because it doesnt fit their "China bad" narrative.

[@jobslolo7387]

what green energies ? the total energy mix of china is something like 55% coal, and if you combine solar/wind/hydro AND nuclear then the "green" energy of china is still only 15% ... there is nothing green about burning mostly coal for power. Also in a way ... obviously per capita is low in china, since more than half of the 1.4 Billion Chinese people still live in pretty low life standards, Chinese in cities have higher carbon footprint than american living in cities. in short, when Chinese get richer, they pollute more than anyone else .

[@passby8070]

​@jobslolo7387 I wonder where you get your facts from, China is at or near the peak of emission, as China gets richer, it will also likely to reduce emission as people are buying EVs instead of cheaper ice cars. I am seeing more than 50% cars in Chinese cities recently, I think In 5 years, China will be a very different place with most ICE cars gone.

[@michaelwan4268]

As a Chinese, I am surprised to see you put this topic about China. I drived 6K KM last Sep in west China, those wind power mill and sola panels continues over 50KMs and you see it everywhere, it is so amazing, you should really go there to see it.

[@tasmiahmasih3863]

Seen one solar panel seen them all

[@cwd5736]

One day this China gainomis Solar panel site will turn into a tourism exhibition Art! 😂

[@JackZhang-hx1su]

不要 不要妄图改变沙漠 这是我大舅子在中科院寒旱所说的 。

[@chriscomeskey4771]

Good work China!

[@apolloleo9801]

@@JackZhang-hx1su 你大舅子是哪位？ 他说有什么用？ 而且又不是改变所有沙漠 只是改变一部分来改善当地民生

[@sandzibar]

In a world of constant depressing news on economic doom and war, its always nice to watch your videos Matt that bring some positivity.

[@HeliophobicRiverman]

Indeed. I had a few rough years with very little hope. The content on this channel helped me get through that.

[@mikeb4650]

Unfortunately, once those cells and wind systems deteriorate, they become toxic waste. Sacrificing the future for the present is no victory.

[@apathyguy8338]

I don't know what the hell happened but my phone spit that out repeatedly. Nothing I do seems to delete the messages

[@Meatsweats_o_O]

frfr. love hear something good. that huge ass project is amazing. I hope it challenges others to do better.

[@SliverHell]

YES, YES. Its like my one reason of not taking my own life

[@pedrod.guimaraes5030]

I find it quite funny the many articles pointing to China's "Neo Colonialism" developing other countries to get advantages in trade and logistics as something bad whereas the Western World still practices the Old Colonialism of taking over other countries and territories and exploiting everything they can before leaving while criticizing China, not defending China but pointing out that West Hypocrisy just like all Western (Europe and USA) polluted for centuries and still pollute the World but now new emerging Countries need to stick to rules about pollution and can't get industrialized because of that just to remain dependent on some countries.

[@garyshan7239]

yet try researching the Belt and Road Initiative-China isn't doing anything out of the goodness in their heart.

[@SanhuaChen]

what China pursues is win-win, and China never occupies other countries' territory, interferes in other countries' internal affairs, and does not export ideology. This can be seen in the five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence of Chinese diplomacy.

[@Liminghwa]

@@garyshan7239 if the US is investing billions to pay various medias to spread Anti-China news internationally, what do you expect the media would do? Not take advantage? If you look up Atrocities Fabrication in Wikipedia, you'd see the Brits and the US have airways been the pioneers.

[@antihypocrisy8978]

Someone pointed out the culprit for pollution should include accumulated release since the industrial revolution, instead of just the current snapshot.

[@stevenbarrett7648]

We put 12 solar panels on our house under three years ago plus a 5Kw battery, we projected a 9 year payback but with the greedy energy companies doubling the price of electricity then doubling it again our solar paid for itself in just over 2 years. In summer we fill the car, run the house and solar battery then feed in to the grid….for a miserly 15ppKw but still produces a few quid in credits

[@marcelroy6034]

Same here, got panels up on the roof, my energy bill has gone down by about two thirds, through own consumption and selling the surplus into the grid. Best decision ever.

[@andremanicke8534]

Same here. 4 kWp (will be 7 soon) with 14 kWh of battery. Sufficient to be off-grid 7-8 month a year (running everything and charging the EV) and reducing the power usage by a good amount the rest of the year.

[@jacintarichardson2376]

Similarly here. I put a 10kWh system on my roof (maximum my energy provider allows) and a 10kWh battery in my garage. It's not quite enough for us to be entirely energy sufficient, but neither was that my goal. For 8-9 months a year we export more energy than we use. In the middle of summer we export up to 70kWh/day. Even though the feed in tariff is less than one third the buy rate, our bills are in credit for those 9 months and that credit almost covers the winter cost. I expected the system to pay for itself in 8 years, but with inflation etc, it will only take about 5. It should recoup the carbon costs of creation, transport and installation etc in 8-10 years.

[@repairman2be250]

7.4KW here and Powerwall 2 since 2018. We are happy with the investment.

[@dakawans83]

When you need a new roof how much will it cost to take them down, reinstall them and hope they don't get broken?

[@woodtv4481]

I started solar installations way back 2004, exactly 20 years ago. From that day on, i fall inlove with Solar and our office, our house, our workshop are all run with solar. Never have to pay a cent to the grid.

[@cosmoray9750]

It's impressive that the solar panels is still functioning after twenty years. No degradation or lost of power from the panels ?

[@nikm3r]

@@cosmoray9750 Solar panels will keep being functional 50 years later too, they'll just lose efficiency, there are big name companies that offer 40 year warranties now.

[@fritzsmith3296]

@@cosmoray9750 "It's impressive that the solar...". Why do you think so, are you an expert on solar panels or just a "Wooden Philosopher", that is someone who has strong opinions about things he knows nothing about?

[@heyhoe168]

@@cosmoray9750 invertor would probably fail more often.

[@ianithompson4239]

@@cosmoray9750 my Panasonic panels are warranted to stii produce 80% out put after 25 years!

[@craigrussell7542]

For those commenting about all the water needed to clean solar panels... Researchers at Sandia National Laboratories estimate that a typical 500-megawatt coal-fired utility that burns 250 tons of coal per hour, also uses 12 million gallons of water an hour, or 300 million gallons a day, for cooling. In the U.S., power generation is second only to agriculture in water use. To produce and burn the 1 billion tons of coal America uses each year, the mining and utility industries use from 55 trillion to 75 trillion gallons of water annually, according to the US Geological Survey.

[@gemelwalters2942]

I'm curious if those people think Drilling for oil doesn't impact waterways or water usage. From fracking which uses a LOT of water, to making entire areas uninhabitable or the setting the sea ablaze just a few years ago. One oil spill after another and these are just the ones we hear about. We definitely should be skeptical, it's China afterall, but let's not be naive about the existing process we use to generate power.

[@craigrussell7542]

@@gemelwalters2942 Quite right. We need to find all the ways we can to get out of the climate and pollution mess we are in. No solution will be without cost or complications, but the current methods as they stand are far too damaging to our world on their own.

[@playground2137]

Sure. But you are in a desert.

[@tobiasrietveld3819]

That coal-fired utility isn't likely to be placed in the desert where water already is very scarce.

[@davidladd5597]

Actually, any power generation that involves steam driven turbines uses a lot of water to condense steam back to water so it can be recycled through the boilers. This would include nuclear. Further, this water that is used for cooling gets evaporated off as water vapor (also classified as a greenhouse gas), in cooling towers.

[@sivan1127]

Having solar panels in desert, a predominantly non usable land, is awesome.

[@zeed33r]

oh yes, what else better than having your panels buried under sand every day

[@man_at_the_end_of_time]

​@@zeed33rOr coated with dust.

[@thirdnormalform]

I was wondering about dust / sand dunes. The logistics of cleaning and operating these panels would be interesting.

[@mattc6854]

They have cleaning drones now.

[@muriloaraujo6511]

Also, maybe it would be possible to design a "whipper" that uses some of the power to clean themselves from time to time.

[@dominiqueridoux2073]

If memory serves, northern China is also the location of large refining plants for aluminum and other metals, they do require large amounts of energy that is now mostly green. Also they are currently installing UHV (ultra high voltage) power lines. Once they are finished, the transmission loss will be greatly reduced and lots of coal plants will become redondant. Last but not least, energy storage battery, sodium based (since weigh and space are not an issue for such storage) is also a promising way to store the extra energy produced during day time. I do trust the Chinese to go at this methodically and efficiently. They are highly pragmatic people.

[@tobiasrietveld3819]

"they do require large amounts of energy that is now mostly green", that's not even remotely true.

[@kaitlyn__L]

@@tobiasrietveld3819aluminium refinery relies on electrolysis. With enough green generation in the area it’s trivial to switch, no need for a process change. Depending on the final alloy, you don’t even necessarily need a super high power arc furnace to electrically produce the final metallic-form product (be it sheets or bars). Just a regular metallurgical kiln is usually sufficient, same as can make brass and bronze.

[@gaobili]

At least it's better than using fossil energy exclusively, and the growth trend is clear@@tobiasrietveld3819

[@tobiasrietveld3819]

​@@kaitlyn__L I meant the statement that it was done mostly with 'green' energy. Wind and solar in China together don't even total 10% of their power generation. Hydro is about 18% but they pretty much maxed out it's geographic potential. WIth over 65%, China's industry basically still mostly runs on coal generators, which are the absolute dirtiest way to generate energy.

[@kaitlyn__L]

@@tobiasrietveld3819 while that’s true it’s certainly also cleaner than directly burning the coal in a lot of cases. Not as energy efficient but often cleaner

[@anandawijesinghe6298]

I was one of the earliest rooftop solar adopters in my town of Livermore, CA. Ignoring all the naysayers, I covered my entire roof with microinverter based AC solar panels nearly 20 years ago, and the US Govt covered 60% of the cost via tax deductions. I bought all the equipment and installed the panels myself. Now 60% of the rooftops in my hometown have solar panels installed, about 10 years after I did ! Roofop solar naysayers are a vanishing breed these days! I am now generating far more power than I need for my home, and selling the excess to the power company. This solar system not only provided all the electricity I needed, but also helped me payoff my home mortgage loan! It will continue to generate power for at least another 20 years ! What is not to like ? The best investment of time and money I ever made ! 🥰!

[@mohdfirdaus7536]

wear and tear cost?

[@fss1704]

Panels made by slave labour, other than that...

[@sansanBL33]

很高兴加利福尼亚走在清洁能源的前列 你刚刚说到的将居民将多余电力卖给发电公司的模式 在我大学入学地理考试时曾今考察过 我记得是中国宁夏省 的一个案例 人类的智慧在不同半球都有惊人的相似性

[@exoplanet11]

@@mohdfirdaus7536 Solar panels loose about 0.5% per year, so these ones are probably producing 10-15% less than when they were new. But because of the huge subsidy, he was able to buy more panels than he needed (then) so is still overproducing today. (Probably has much higher electricity demand)

[@stevoz6743]

I wasn't eligible because my electricity bill every month was very low, but I believe in new energy, I drive a Tesla.

[@DMWang-u7x]

When I was in Elementary school in Beijing, China in early 1980s, there was an National writing competition about Chinese future energy supply. My school district organized local experts, some of them from the Chinese Academy of Science to gave seminars on new energy source: solar, wind, hydro, nuclear, biogas etc. to ELEMENTARY SCHOOL STUDENTS. I still remember those lectures vividly as they were very interesting and inspiring. I am pretty sure some of my classmates became engineers in those fields because of that. I remebered what I wrote was a day's life in 2000, living in a solar powered City, more or less in Sci-fi movie clip fashion. Looking back, you could see some long term government planning on renewable energy.

[@rsinclair689]

China was smart to invest in education. The US should, but doesn't.

[@Darkmatter321]

You should be proud about being Chinese. Amazing people, amazing country and amazing government. Much respect from Iran

[@thyristo]

...meanwhile we here in Germany got fed christian religion bullshit.

[@Alexander_Kale]

@@thyristo I don't know where you went to school, but we also got the education about alternative energies, and religion was entirely optional.

[@kevinanderson7460]

Where are you now? In China?

[@joe_shh]

20 years ago: “China, you shall be responsible for global warming!”😡 Now: “Let’s forget about The Paris Agreement”🙄

[@yzy8638]

before: EV is good after China's EV: EV means EVil

[@ErikB605]

@@yzy8638 Pollution: In total our 300.000 pollute less than your 2 billion. Green Power Generation: Per Capita we have a lot more than you.

[@aBRUSHforCONFUCIUS]

The US was the only country to come in under the nonbinding Paris agreements by massively switching to gas. This plan is a pipe dream. Current can only be transmitted so far. DC is extremely short range. What happens to all those panels in 20 years. What a waste. The only reason they are doing this, is they cannot sell subquality panels. This is just propaganda for the Chinese dictatorship, EVs are a deadend tech. Besides Chinese cars, especially EVs are very poor quality. The barely existent support for vehicles, is half as long for phones. Also, why would anyone want the Chinese government keeping tabs on where they go, what happebs in and around the car, You do know the info is piped right back to China? With many cameras and mics. Let's give the dictatorship even more power. Hydrogen will be the biggest players. Lastly, try and find picters from Chinese citizens which show a not gray sky.

[@codebro777p4]

​@@yzy8638 maybe it's always a reason to hate somthing because it's ralative with china

[@yzy8638]

@@codebro777p4 reason or excuse? when moses's follower rush into the land of honey and milk, wiping out population there, you think theres a rational reason? British didnt invent the word racism for nothing

[@markstevenson439]

I am an American and I am glad to see other nations like China achieve progress like this. The U.S. is big spoiled brat that can't stand to see other nations prosper and weaken it's hegemony. Kudos to China and all other nations in the world for making great innovations and making life better for their people, something the U.S. has never done.

[@merlin7766]

So how would you feel if you invented a ground breaking technology and someone also stole the idea from you and made billions of dollars? This is why China has been doing to the west for a generation. OST of what they export is a direct copy of western tech or a derivative of western technology.

[@juaerez69]

Wumao alert!

[@chaselee86]

I'm a Chinese American who has lived and travelled extensively in China for a long time. I've seen how polluted the rivers are and gabbage piled up everywhere. All the buildings built with poor quality concrete that have short lifespan of 30 years or less. Stop believing in these propaganda to think that China is better than US.

[@chenjack5092]

​@@juaerez69 🐸：呱 gua 😂

[@rsinclair689]

Oh God, our previous brat is having a temperr tantrum in court :-) I completely agree, we sat on our laurels while China developed its economy.

[@chester1234ification]

60% of Chinese coal imports is from Australia back 2019. After trade war with China. it drop to less than 2% by now. Good strategy Australia.

[@amandagrant4331]

China is the largest coal producer in the world. However, if Australia and Russia are willing to lower the CIF price of coal below that of domestic coal in China, China is also willing to import some coal. After all, China has the largest trade surplus in the world, and appropriate imports can balance trade relations.

[@cool-0501]

Yes, Australia is involved in the trade war between the United States and China. China is also very confused about this matter. The final result is that Australia has been harmed on the battlefield of the Sino-US trade war. Thinking about the current war between Ukraine and Russia, it seems that European energy has been harmed. High-priced energy from the United States is sold to Europe, and American arms are sold to Europe and Ukraine. So, American success.

[@garyshan7239]

@@cool-0501 I think you are missing the point of your govt. China is a threat to Australia otherwise you wouldn't have negotiated for the new missiles which will allow you to interdict ships well into what China considers their home waters. That has as much to do with why your got is involved in the trade war other than they are just being a good ally to the US. It also strengthens relations with Jap0anb which is going to rise in power in the coming years as they remilitarize.

[@cool-0501]

@@garyshan7239 是的，美国对全世界造成了威胁。任何一个武装国家，都会对澳大利亚造成威胁，但是为什么特指中国？因为你们只相信西方媒体。

[@hisenlau8603]

​@@garyshan7239 If Japan violates the Bostan Proclamation, Japan will once again have a taste of nuclear weapons. Countries that are unfriendly to Japan include: South Korea, North Korea, Russia, China, Vietnam, and the Philippines. This is because Japan invaded these countries during World War II. It’s time to re-examine the Bostan Proclamation.

[@ericdelevinquiere9902]

The ability to grow plants and raise livestock under the panels in what was a desert is a serious benefit.

[@davidaustin6962]

Not in this case. That takes careful planning with regard to flora, fauna, panel placement, and other factors. In other setups that is often true though. Solar fields run by organizations intent on maximizing power, tend to do the opposite... poisoning the ground to reduce plant and animal life so that there are fewer birds pooping on the panels.

[@lorenzo42p]

how are they growing plants under the panels? plants need all the light they can get. how do you fit farm equipment under those panels? a bigger taller structure would cost many times more to build. the profit margin is already paper thin if not extremely optimized.

[@maxmustsleep]

​@@lorenzo42p they space them out more. and no more sunlight only helps to a certain degree, at that point the cost of more water evaporating is a bigger issue. there's a video on the topic on this channel but i'm sure you can find other sources too. of course it's more expensive but due to the double usage, reduced water loss and better natural cooling from the plants benefitting the solar panel efficiency it can be a viable option in some places.

[@locacharliewong]

⁠@@lorenzo42p I think you are not being practical enough… 1. Those are desert. Not an arable farmland. So, they are not trying to bring some foods to the tables. They are just growing plants for holding the soils. 2. Not all the plants need sunlight that much. Especially those which can get a foothold in the desert. They prefer some shades as there’s not much water under the ground. 😅

[@lorenzo42p]

@@maxmustsleep it's something which should be studied, not just implemented at huge scale because it sounds good. we could farm trees in fields of crops, too much shade on the lower crops. every crop is different, and cannot farm only one crop on a plot of land forever. farmers need to rotate the crops to avoid destroying the soil. cannot easily move solar panels to account for changes in use. every crop needs different spacings, and sometimes farmers try many different spacings to see which performs best. 3 rows then a space, or 5 rows then a space, what works best for this specific seed. see better results, try that full scale the next year. half the cost of solar is the install. farmers cannot move panels year to year, they have enough work dealing with fields with no solar panels in the way.

[@DanBurgaud]

China's south-eastern provinces have massively adopted solar panels for residential use. Several Fujian cities are producing more renewable electricity than they consume.

[@EdwinaTS]

Wow, that's awesome!

[@jackshen5093]

As a Chinese, considering the population density on the eastern coast and the power output of the renewables, I doubt that's true. But I could be wrong

[@nickkrug8157]

IT WILL BE GREAT !!!!!!! WHEN THEY HAVE TO DISPOSE OF ALL THOSE CELLS and wind blades !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@ms3862]

Thats a lie, wanna know how I know? Solar panels dont generate power at night

[@leerizer]

​@@jackshen5093 He mentioned several cities, not entire province so maybe he is correct.

[@trevormiller1366]

Got solar installed 15yr ago, overall it has been a cost saver and works fine here in Aus.

[@docdissent]

Before anyone gets envious: Australia has the lowest cost for residential solar because their 'soft costs' are less than half of what US customers shell out where typical installed cost is over $3/W

[@UncleAlf1889]

@@docdissent I had solar at my American home and it did not produce what they said it would and was a burden on our household to pay for. Even with the subsidies, it wouldnt have been a net return until like 12 years into it, and the panels werent rated much passed that. All it did was create a bigger burden on us by adding another expense and point of failure on our home. I will never purchase solar panels again for my home. It may be useful for small things aND IF YOU HAVE A BATTERY BANK, BUT WITH ACCESS TO THE GRID, IT MAKES ZERO SENSE TO ADD THEM TO YOUR HOME. Caps werent intentional. finger slipped.

[@mv80401]

@@UncleAlf1889 Sadly, solar installs are much more expensive in the US vs Australia as too many unnecessary costs are added. Hence payback takes long. That said, PV is warrantied to 25 years and works way past that. The inverter needs replacing after 12-15 years. If you were made false promises you got an unethical installer. Mine lists a production guarantee for each of the 25 years, slightly declining of course. Many states here have big electricity rates, and it's in those places where solar is the most profitable for you.

[@PavolFilek]

@@docdissent I do not understand why so high cost per W, in EU we have 0.7 € cost per W of installed PERT, TOPcon, HJT or IBC technologies. Including big NMC. LFP or NIB battery 1:5 Wp/Wh.

[@peppermeat8059]

@@UncleAlf1889 batteries are for emergencies. Its not worth getting the batteries unless your going offgrid, which you cant and shouldnt in a suburb lol

[@comingviking]

This is one of many things I like about China. They are technocrats with a meritocracy based culture. When they perceive a problem, they deal with it, and the meritocracy part of it means that they have competent leadership.

[@AntonOfTheWoods]

China has a government that pushes for meritocracy but you must understand that culture and thousands of years of history of very un-meritocratic family structures and wealth distribution take a while to counter. Look no further than how difficult it is to get into university and the unbelievably large proportion of family income that goes on extra (often illegal) extra tutoring to enable kids to get into good universities. Wealthier families can do that, poor families can really struggle. That's not meritocracy, unless you consider your merit based on your family wealth...

[@nobodyli6543]

@@AntonOfTheWoods china's upward mobility is much batter than the situation is U.S.A, do you see any one from odinary backgroud go top of the leadship of the country?

[@MagnumInnominandum]

😂

[@yakitori8466]

@@AntonOfTheWoods Nope. School entrance exams are standardized. They have been for thousands of years.

[@travislynn1962]

Here are two choices for you: in China, would you prefer your child to attend a public school or a private school?

[@donaldlee8249]

My parents live in southwest China, where over 80% of electricity already come from clean sources, mostly hydroelectric dams and wind, with some of lowest electricity bill in the world at about 0.4 yuan or 5 cents per kwh

[@nowandrew4442]

Fun fact: hydropower is statistically more dangerous, per KWh, than all non-FF sources, because of a single accident at a hydro-electric dam that killed 220,000+ people in the 70s, or something.

[@nickkrug8157]

IT WILL BE GREAT !!!!!!! WHEN THEY HAVE TO DISPOSE OF ALL THOSE CELLS and wind blades !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@donaldlee8249]

@@nowandrew4442 who cares when it’s dirt cheap

[@nowandrew4442]

@@donaldlee8249 the problem with hydroelectric is the ecological impact of creating large reservoir lakes behind the dam. If that impact is minimized then yes it's an ideal option. Though nuclear is better.

[@teatree6228]

@@nowandrew4442coal burning factoris catch fire and coal mines collapse- so dangerous too So how/ ?

[@dodgygoose3054]

As an Australian seeing China doing what Australia should have been doing for the last 20 years .... But we had the Liberals & Nationals in control of our government who only see into their own fossil fuel donated pockets.

[@ericalan8150]

I'm American so perhaps our labels vary significantly. It's wild to me because I'm nearing my 40s and spent the majority of my life connecting to liberal politics because they were opposite of what you're saying they are. It was conservative Republicans that were all about brute power, war--> fossil fuels. I'm still a liberal thinker though, so to the loud and proud red hatter Internet folks, I'm wrong about everything.

[@passby8070]

Yep, as an Australian, I think Australia as a nation has been quite selfish and short-sighted in our energy policies in the last 20 years. We should have by now to have the cheapest power in the world if the government was doing the right thing for the people.

[@pandabearoceanpark]

That's democracy for you - money wins!

[@BenjiSun]

but... nuclear submarines are so much more important for "job creation", says politicians. /s

[@thereisnospace]

@@pandabearoceanpark thats capitalism not democracy

[@Alazen.]

People tend to hate when they are jealous of others

[@jackshen5093]

nah they are mostly ignorant than jealous.

[@ObeyNoLies]

There's a lot of envy and hatred of the Chinese going around these days.

[@nanyanguo1]

@@ObeyNoLies promoted n encouraged by their politicians thro their media.

[@onetwo6806]

"People"

[@ChronicAndIronic]

no they’re in touch of objective reality instead of buying the propaganda from a Criminal government

[@thx1138sixnine]

If you believe in equality -China is not the biggest CO2 polluter on a per capita basis - then each person in our nation (USA) is a much bigger polluter than each person in China or India. We & the Western European industrial nations owe reparations for centuries of industrial CO2 emissions that caused our climate crisis. It is obscenely selfish for the rich few in nations with high per capita income to demand that people with low per capita income pay more per person to fix climate change

[@seantewillis]

Amazing what you can do when you spend government money on domestic infrastructure that benefits people, rather then waging war all over the world. Someone should be taking notes.

[@DylUlenspiegel]

❤️

[@KayyHong]

But selling bombs and weapons of war is a $238 billion a year industry in you know where.

[@mugnuz]

well china isnt exactly the best example for useful infrastructure... but this example is good of course

[@T33K3SS3LCH3N]

The US spend about 3% GDP on defense. High for a western country, but low in international comparison and likely less than China.

[@yunko9369]

@@mugnuz Why China isn't exactly the best example for useful infrastructure?

[@DUDIDUAN]

N-type solar panels today are much more efficient than before, in the meantime the cost of it also drop below $14 cents per watts in China. I am worrying the 200~300% tariffs applied ty the US will increase the cost of energy compared to China in the long-term. A real inflation-reduction act would be cut this tariff and lower the energy cost.

[@warungmakanan-lc6rc]

solar panel is cheap now. but lifepo4 baterai is verry expensive

[@copacelu93]

A video acknowledging China's efforts to decarbonise? Damn, that takes guts I'm looking forward to seeing all the very calm and nuanced takes in the comment section

[@jchung5265]

We heard about dictator xi’s achievement in poverty alleviation that’s all lies! And he talks like mike pompeo !😯😉

[@leftward_hoe]

he said "two steps forward but one step back" as if we can't do the math and understand that is still one step forward. unlike here in the United States where we are doing everything in our political power to stand still while wondering how a place like China could be progressing past us.

[@jchung5265]

KZbin shows a lot of visitors from the “west “ , showing us the real china. We don’t have to look at their videos as ccp propaganda !😅😉

[@blackhole606]

Will they criticize China or solar power? By looking at the comments, it seems that it's mostly solar power. It feels like a remnant of the utopic Sahara Solar Farm Project idea which came up few years ago.

[@jamesmoy1214]

@@blackhole606never heard of it. Could you please elaborate about that project?

[@sunusiadamu5802]

Without China, we in Africa couldn't have afforded smart phones and a lot of electronics. China is a blessing to this world.

[@Mithra53]

Why don't built things by yourselves ?

[@mindormood1]

@@Mithra53 why don't you become a billionnaire?

[@texanplayer7651]

Without China stealing western intellectual property you mean.

[@Monkehrawrrr]

Let’s goooo China!!! ❤

[@domatthew1666]

The next step for Africa would be to build industries to supply the world's needs for goods and services.

[@archstanton_live]

Any country/state/household that goes "low carbon" helps us all and deserves gratitude from the masses.

[@Alexander_Kale]

Look up how small the percentage of personal households is in terms of energy consumption when comapred to the total energy consumption of the country you live in. Then compare that to the ever increasing co2 emissions of china and India. No, households going low carbon do not help the problem. In fact, they do not even "adress" the problem. If you can somehow find a way to speed fusion along or make nuclear powerplants more popular, a single one of those will do more for carbon neutrality than all the co2 savings the households in your country can manage COMBINED.

[@hzhang1228]

@@Alexander_Kale China's carbon emissions have been forecasted to peak around 2025-30, with some forecast suggesting it has already peaked and will decrease in 2024. the per capita emission of the US is twice that of China's, even with China being the factory of the world. if you visit China you see much lower light pollution, apartments have set temperature limits in winter, ect ect. household usage very much matters.

[@dc521977]

@@hzhang1228 Lol, ok CCP propaganda bot. When you have to shut down all the factories in Beijing a month before the Olympics to get air quality barely tolerable I think the bs carbon emissions were probably pretty high.

[@archstanton_live]

@@Alexander_Kale Way to not accept responsibility for your own footprint pal! It falls under the heading of collective consciousness...A hundredth monkey kind of thing.

[@archstanton_live]

@@Alexander_Kale (response part #2) Your thought experiment leaves out a couple of very significant factors: (1) The average developed world "household" emits much more CO2 than the average developing world household. If you are an "American" you tend to be at the higher end of this "household" scale. (2) Much of China's industrial carbon emissions are from making products for export. Many of these products are used in American households. (3) The population of China or India is roughly 4 times that of the US... Thoughts, my friend?

[@mrnhl3080]

I have solar in Florida since 2021 and it’s has been great and saving me a ton of money.

[@bbaborh]

Florida is a sunshine stste. It is very suitable to have solar panels.

[@Peizxcv]

One additional method China is tackling the "western generation, eastern consumption" problem with renewable is to encourage tech firms to build data centers, cloud computing, AI training in the western part of the country closer to the power source. This cuts down on the power transmission demand as transferring data west to east is a lot simplier than transmitting gigawatts of electricity.

[@iwantmorenews557]

Not to mention creating high value tech jobs in the poorer western provinces. Chinese government loves solutions that kill several birds with one stone.

[@peppermeat8059]

data centres consume too much electricity it sometimes puts strain on the grid

[@amarnamarpan]

It's sad how people accuse China for carbon emmissions, while all their gadgets are manufactured there. If it were manufactured in your country it would have a high carbon emmission too. Simple enough?

[@vesavius]

The gulf between China and the US is that China says 'do it' and it gets done, usually cheaply, while to get anything done in the US is super expensive, slow, and full of red tape. plus, there is no comparison in the manufacturing/ skill base of the two countries. China can simply vastly out build the US on all fronts (yes, including military).

[@dh5380]

Rather than point out differences, I would assert that the biggest problem the two countries have in common is a lack of honest and integral leadership. That is also probably the easiest solvable problem if the people would take to the streets and demand justice and efficiency.

[@monash4250]

It's not really about red tape. It's because the US is hypercapitalist. Nothing, and I mean nothing happens in the US unless there is a profit incentive for private enterprise. And the US is proud of it's private entrepreneurship & industry. The idea is small government & that whatever the government can the private sector can do better & with more efficiency. The the problem with that thinking is that the only incentive is profit & the enrichment of shareholders and not the advancement of the nation or helping the people. And the US govt is in bed with the hyper capitalists. On the other hand China has successfully leveraged their private industry in combination with the planned economics of the government. The two work in tandem & seek to uplift China. Profit & gross margins aren't the only motivation here.

[@yatarookayama8329]

Fact check : Debunk ! China builds cheaply and fast and then in few years collapses , just looks their roads , building , ghost towns or that big Dam that about to break ...

[@Abraktil]

yes but the price to pay is totalitarianism

[@59jm24]

NIMBI's need not apply in China.

[@minwang7530]

Six years ago, I installed solar panels on my parents' roof, which is connected to the national grid and does not require energy storage batteries. In summer, the solar panels protect the roof from direct sunlight and can also generate electricity for cooling the house. Isn't that wonderful?

[@unfixablegop]

I was very impressed by the giant horse icon. 🙂

[@TheLoki1983]

Think Genghis.... KAHN!

[@danhtran6401]

And still, number 1 polluters....

[@Scottszb1987]

@@danhtran6401 it's the west relocated industries to China to secure higher profits, enjoy cheaper goods, and reduce local pollution, and now you judging China for being the biggest polluter. fyi per capita carbon emissions in the United States are twice as much as China. I don't know if you are ignorant or evil to say that.

[@passby8070]

​@danhtran6401 but thats very misleading, far behind US and much of Europe in terms of per capita consumption.

[@danhtran6401]

@@passby8070 when US pollutes, at least they're selling energy to other nations, provide global security and necessary services, China doesn't export energy nor provide security...

[@McClarinJ]

The impact on the rest of the world is the availability of Chinese solar panels at ever-plunging prices, making them the cheapest energy option for utilities and enabling families and businesses to become energy-independent, a step we can take to become freer of reliance on public utilities and government.

[@楊WWWhaoerd]

您在西方可以买到中国制造的太阳能电池板吗？ 我很好奇

[@salibaba]

We only have a small roof and have filled it with solar. Due to the limit we hit and being in an urban area the only option for us to build out our renewables was to join a co-operative wind farm project. The turbines are now built and now being connected and commissioned in the next few months. The credits we receive for it should offset most of our household energy use and charging the car. It should also mitigate most of our electricity bill. Renewables is undoubtedly the biggest and easiest win in decarbonisation.

[@tilapiadave3234]

Thank goodness I don't live near you , if I see a windmill I get my angle grinder out immediately

[@plenum6448]

@@tilapiadave3234 What powers your angle grinder?

[@tilapiadave3234]

@@plenum6448 COAL ,, same like a TESLA :)

[@salibaba]

@@tilapiadave3234 well not to worry, I don’t live near any windmills. I think they’re mostly in The Netherlands. 🤨 My wind farm is also quite a while away near the coast

[@tilapiadave3234]

@@salibaba So you can take an angle grinder for a short trip and help improve the world. Make sure to wear your clogs :)

[@longforgotten4823]

We have dams in the United States suffering the same problems, and the government that seems to not want to spend money on infrastructure. It’s not necessarily a China problem. It is a corporate and government cutting corners issue.

[@dertythegrower]

corpocracy 🙃

[@robertadams4942]

Floating solar on dams can boost power.

[@symmetrycompany9934]

China Micro Quanta is building a ten megawatts Perovskite solar power plant at Hangzhou. Production capacity for this new solar panels reached 10MW and phrase II will increase to 1 GW. That is just one of the leading manufacturers. There are many new comers all gearing up for mass production. Future R & D for a tandem Perovskite solar panel, theoretically is 45% - The 455GW can be more than doubled to 1 TW

[@henryzk-ve3ks]

杭州哪里啊？想去参观下

[@symmetrycompany9934]

@@henryzk-ve3ks PV Magazine FEBRUARY 18, 2022 - Chinese perovskite cell maker Microquanta Semiconductor announced on Wednesday the start of construction on a 12 MW ground-mounted solar park in Quzhou City, Zhejiang Province. The facility will be China's first utility-scale solar project integrating perovskite solar modules, (Not HangZhou) 中國鈣鈦礦電池製造商微量子半導體週三宣布，在浙江省衢州市開始建造 12 兆瓦地面太陽能園區。 該設施將是中國第一個整合鈣鈦礦太陽能組件的公用事業規模太陽能項目，

[@nickbonzer]

I’ll tell you what’s happening and no one is talking about it . I just recently came back from Shanghai. Everything is electric. Taxis buses cars and motorbikes . It’s a quiet pollution free city and it feels weird. No petrol stink and silent ......If china can use solar and wind to produce electricity it’s free. how about that for a competitive edge. Their investments means they are going to win ......compare this to the US ........watch the vids here where Americans are defending their petrol cars ....they say range .....how often are they doing more than 300 miles a day and then so stupidly the sound of the engine .....im not even going to discuss that one .....

[@garyshan7239]

and yet in the capital if they want to do a press op for international broadcast they shutdown industrial all around so the pollution can clear out and everyone in the background isn't in n=95 masks

[@porcelaincrown]

Though I hate the relationship b/w America and China, I hope that competition can build in this area. Two superpowers seeing who can go green the fastest like the space race would be awesome!

[@darkfantasydeep5575]

不存在竞争，发展方向和体制都不一样。中国科技起步晚到现在还在发展工业体系。NVIDIA、AMD、IPHONE、INTEL、Qualcomm等高科技产业目前任然占了很大一部分，我们虽然有华为、摩尔线程、龙芯、长江存储但是芯片和EUV光刻机方面依旧被制裁，包括EV汽车产业被征收100%关税。所以还有很长的路要走。

[@AnuraUkulele]

It would be absolutely brilliant to have cooperation / fair competition between China & the US - but the US idea of competition is to drag their opponent down, not just to lift themselves up. The US subsidises local green industry (great!) but puts massive tariffs on imports of renewable energy tech from China. EVs are now subject to a 100% tariff. Obama at one stage had a 249% tariff on solar panels from China (and hefty subsidies - but the local US industry still went nowhere)

[@porcelaincrown]

@@AnuraUkulele you’re totally right. If you’re going to put enormous tarrifs, use that extra breathing time of protection to rapidly build your own industries before you return to the competition…which the US somehow still failed to do. But hey, democracies work slowly and inefficiently - even investing in green energy has somehow become controversial. That’s the price of freedom haha.

[@风声-g1j]

@@porcelaincrown price of freedom

[@AndrewOzy]

Love your videos, Matt. Whenever I get notified you have a new one posted, I watch ASAP. Your content is informative, refreshing, and balanced. Also, because you're obviously passionate about the material you cover, it really shows in the quality of your KZbin content. Cheers dude!

[@darrylbraymore]

What the Nordic nations realized is that if you can't use it immediately or store it, it becomes waste. Earth batteries could solve this problem but I have not heard of a large deployment yet.

[@passby8070]

large deployment it's already here, it can also convert into hydrogen or ammonia for shipping and trucks...

[@growtocycle6992]

Three gorges dam. Plenty of"storage capacity"

[@maggiechan33]

No country does anything "out of the goodness of their heart". The Global South, thru experiences with the BRI, knows China offers them the best terms + contracts.

[@hc1897]

That's the spirit. Don't expect charity - fairplay yes, but charity no. Just learn to do business and take care of your own welfare.

[@jerryluan9106]

What China want is simple, if someone go to Beijing and see the Tiananmen square towel, it's still there and always be there. "Long live the People's Republic of China." "Long live the great unity of the people of the world." A world with poor brothers and sisters in Asia, Africa and Latin America is not the world we want to live.

[@Gribbo9999]

Love that 21 JigaWatts! I'm old enough to know that the prefix "Giga" was rarely used because it was bigger than almost anything we encountered in daily life when that film was made. Now we almost all have Gigabytes of memory sitting in our pockets and Terabytes on our desks. Science is amazing!

[@tonysofla]

40% of all cars registered in China are EV (around 800'000 sold a month), and 90% of scooters. Air quality in their many 20Million cities are already much better, some days better than Paris.

[@texanplayer7651]

Yeah... not yet... Not until they got rid of the pesky coal plants

[@bugsygoo]

@@texanplayer7651Yes, what he says is 100 percent true. I know; I check Beijing and Paris air quality every day. Only issue there is that Paris is not a great city to compare to.

[@jchung5265]

Dictator xi tries to improve quality of life for a billion people ,far cry from the days of heavy pollution!

[@texanplayer7651]

@@bugsygoo Hate to break it to you, but China actively hoses the air with water trucks just before any air quality check to greatly reduce the concentration of dust and fine particles in the air. There are plenty of videos out there showing those trucks actively helping to fudge the data. So I wouldn't really trust those numbers.

[@sleepyjoe4529]

@@bugsygoo and yet no one ever writes articles about Paris whereas the lamestream media is always bashing China. Gee I wonder why?

[@nanoshka7484]

We live in Southern China, my parents’ house installed solar panels to heat up the water about 20 years ago. During the very cold winter days, we turn the water heater on but that’s about it. Pretty much all houses in my city have solar water heaters.

[@Makdrey00]

"Big Fossil Fuels" needs to see the writing on the wall and start investing heavily in green generation plants so an enemy becomes an ally in this fight. We need everyone rowing in the correct direction eventually.

[@funby]

Big Fossil Fuels has already seen the writing on the walls for at least the past decade. In fact pushed them into their "harvest phase" whereby they're trying to extract as much as they can for as long as they can.

[@tripodal69]

where do you think the hype for hydrogen keeps coming from, the easiest source of hydrogen is fossil fuels.

[@leojohn1615]

even the most ardent green activists can surely see that fossil fuels will be needed in some applications for several decades yet. Fossil fuels not investing in ramping up production due to the risk of lower future demand of fossil fuels is already contributing to higher fuel prices which hurts alot of people in society. How about we build the replacement before we stop extracting the fuel that is currently needed for almost every aspect of daily life.

[@RickJW-OSM]

"'Big Fossil Fuels' Use us and nobody gets hurt."

[@leojohn1615]

@@valleyofiron125 firstly people dont really do that outside the US where fuel prices are much higher. Secondly if fuel prices were cheap there wouldnt be so many old people who cant heat their homes in winter.

[@gfbprojects1071]

I have always said that if any country is going to lead the world in the transition to cleaner energy it would be a country with a dense population, vibrant industry, and the most to gain from a clean environment eg: China. There are still a lot of road blocks in the way but China seems to be in the right path.

[@7_of_9]

The advantage of starting late is that newer solar technology can provide the same amount of power using half of the capacity. Solar and battery storage is really everything that's need to use the power of the Sun. Oil companies knew that when the electric vehicle was created 50 years before gas vehicles

[@richarddaigle8777]

Electric vehicles existed before the combustion engine, as they were invented in the 1820's.

[@robinsterne3926]

Starting early though means selling the technology to other. Think Denmark.

[@nunocarmona]

@@robinsterne3926 Well, we tried that in Portugal and went wrong: we import basically all the RES technology we install. If we had waited for the technology to get cheaper and put in place competitive feed-in tenders earlier, we'd have been paying less in our electricity bills today.... Hey,but renewable electric generation shares are great nowadays! Let's stay positive

[@robinsterne3926]

@@nunocarmona it's always a monetary consideration, where we have arguments for an against implementing green energy solutions. Umtimately though we subside meat production like crazy because people like meat, so I think we can afford to subsidize saving the world too, when it's not monetarily profitable.

[@nunocarmona]

@@robinsterne3926 we Don’t subsidise meat more than any other agricultural product, here. And governments don’t subsidise because people want to buy. They do it because of producers ( who wouldn’t survive otherwise). It’s a lobby

[@_serjzeras]

As a brazilian I feel very bad thinking that our country has a similar potential (in terms of sustainable energy), but our bureaucracy and - of course - a corrupt government at many levels does not allow us to reach it. It's bizarre how our energy bills are so expensive considering our energy sources.

[@ciro_costa]

Bureaucracy and corruption are bad but are not the reason why Brazil isn't a superpower. Our elite makes a ton of money keeping an agrarian economy based on commodity exports. Industrialization requires high upfront costs. And the elite is not willing to pay for it. Only a government led planned economy can industrialize Brazil.

[@锅巴喷火-f5k]

这是一个非常用心的频道，有非常多的字幕跟语言支持。

[@CleanTechReimagined]

Building huge solar projects is a great way to produce energy at extremely low costs. High voltage DC transmission lines can then bring this energy to where it’s needed with minimal losses. Curtailment can also be avoided by using the electricity generated to produce clean fuels on site, and then those fuels transported to other places.

[@000T00b]

We in South Africa have been suffering from load shedding (scheduled power outs on a rotational basis) for many years. In response, the private sector as well as those private households who can, have gone solar. While solar is not the solution to everything, it is definitely a major part of the solution, which will be a multi-modal network of renewables and legacy generation sources to find that balance between peak demand and sustainability. It’s great to see other examples of what is possible to contribute to the global problem. As one other commuter has said, climate change and its consequences I.t.o. extreme weather events are not bound to political borders, it’s a global issue.

[@johnthomas338]

LOL at "climate change", stop spreading the lies of the World Economic Forum... CO2 is 0.038% of the Earth's atmosphere. According to the UN & the IPCC, Nature emits 97% of CO2 - Humankind only emits 3% of CO2. Therefore human emissions of CO2 are 3% of 0.038% = 0.00114%. That's globally. The UK produces 1% of global emissions made by humankind. That's 1% of 0.00114% = 0.000014%. Reducing that last figure to Zero will make absolutely 'zero' difference to us in the UK, nor anyone in the whole world. But the cost of doing so is the shutting down of all forms of life, for the sake of reducing the life giving gas that is CO2, for without it, no plants will grow, no mammals, fish, birds or insects will survive. And even if my figures above are wrong to the extent the UK emissions includes those from Nature, it still will not make a jot of difference. We need to be out there on every public forum, with these figures, stating over and over again that the U.K. is only responsible for 0.000014% of the total CO2 emissions of the entire world (including nature), and that's even before challenging the obvious lie of 'CO2 causes global warming', for which there is no evidence. This single figure alone, 0.000014%, which can easily be worked out by anybody using available figures from the IPCC (and any other of the climate grifters) will demolish the entire 'Net Zero' fiasco, because nobody can defend ruining our entire economy and our entire way of life, to reduce 0.000014% to 'zero'.

[@ziqingliu-j5o]

My hometown's hydroelectric company, Dongfang Electric Group, has provided many hydroelectric equipment to African countries such as South Africa, hoping that clean energy can benefit humanity worldwide

[@CrozierAlain]

I was in China in1993 in a city in Sichuan the pollution from coal was horrendous I went back in 2015 and crossed Xinjiang desert by bicycle for 30 kilometers there were wind generator everywhere and in the cities was full of electrical scooter but there were also huge modern coal plants and there were transporting the coal by truck they just too energyvore like all developed countries are but they making fast changes

[@bjarterundereim3038]

This seems to be the first really good tech/info channel I have found on KZbin in several months. Sober and knowledgable.

[@edwardabercrombie1961]

Super interesting, video. The scale of these bases is mind blowing. It'd be interesting to revisit this in a couple of year's time to see how successfully they've tackled the transmission issues.

[@ablam8]

They have been using these big transmission lines for a long time already. USA will have to copy.

[@AnthonyJGianotti]

You should do a deep dive on electricity transmission over long distances. I.e. high voltage, dc transmission, etc. because as you eluded all the green energy production in the world doesn’t mean anything if it can’t get where it’s needed…

[@Fabian3331234333]

3% loss over 1000miles are no problem

[@john38825]

You should look into it because it's not a big problem at all. Rough average in US loses 15% energy from generation to you getting it, about 2-3% is lossed from transmission lines. The giant state wide long distance transmission lines are on more efficient side. Solar farms are not expected to even double that number, today's problem is funding and zoning the lines. The bigger thing is energy isn't actually transmitted across the country directly. We in SC have paid for power from Arizona before, like many other states paying for our of state power but as this goes though many states it's a great example. They generate it and give it to the city next to it and then the power they generate is given to city next to it continuously untill the generation next to where you live makes power for you. It's not actually directly going from out of state generation to you.

[@stephankyle6460]

How does the electricity get to my house now? That's right long power lines.

[@AnthonyJGianotti]

@@Fabian3331234333 if my understanding of electric current & transmission is correct dc transmission suffers only from resistive not capacitative generation loss vs ac which suffers from all 3 and leads to ac losses of 5-10% per 1000km (not miles) vs dc which incurs losses of 2-3% per 1000km. As such DC overcomes its steep step up costs (ie the cost of stepping voltage and converting to useable ac power on localized grids) after 600-1000km and can theoretically take power very efficiently from say the Sahara to Europe or Arizona to New York. Whereas with all the power loss incurred by ac transmission, these are not viable distances to transmit ac power over. Also since dc doesn’t suffer from capacitative or inductive losses you could theoretically transmit at far higher voltages closer to the ground. If we’re to truly go green we need to generate power where the sun shines and the wind blows which is typically very far away from where people actually live. As such it seems like a viable topic to explore in more depth…

[@longforgotten4823]

We made sure our legislature in Minnesota was prepared to offer incentives for building direct current lines last legislative session. We adopted 100% renewable by 2040.

[@universeisundernoobligatio3283]

Driven from Picos Texas to Midland Texas, took about 2 hours. From oil extraction its now an industrial wasteland, perfect location for a massive solar farm.

[@andyfeimsternfei8408]

That's 1/3 of the total US generation capacity.

[@lorenzo42p]

still believe it's real? I don't trust anything that comes from the government of china. this place is a base? I assume that means military, or at least government owned.

[@ColeHenrich]

This is awesome. I am a proud American patriot, BUT...I think China is heading towards being the greatest nation on earth, if it isn't already.

[@hc1897]

You know, an average proud Chinese patriot would happily pay tribute to the greatness of America too. People are sensible. Politicians are imbeciles.

[@vikashchandra9917]

Wumao alert, being sneaky but can’t hide, we know how to spot you

[@davidgmaloof]

@@vikashchandra9917 LOL!

[@paulchamberlain7942]

Before criticizing any aspect of another independent country, consider the default environment where the US uses all means, political, industrial and military to undermine and destroy such independent systems. That is why those that appear to succeed,, must have in place vast resources and effective strategies just to maintain their right to independent existence free from foreign interference. So well done to China, and indeed Russia, for against all odds, being able to build a strong economy and enough military might to keep the US from destroying them.

[@huangec]

Sadly, it is THE strategy of the US is to slander and impede the progress of another country just to keep itself on top, instead of trying to do better. What does that tell you about their competence?

[@universeisundernoobligatio3283]

In Ontario Canada i'am on the ultra low rate program for home charging, only use super charges

[@johnnyhorton5984]

Absolutely brilliant and cutting edge informative as always. Thank you Matt! Love the funny humour too! :)

[@andreasjunkpost]

Gave me a good feeling for the future to see this great installation.

[@GCMartin4Collaboration]

My hat is off to the leadership China is showing and their willingness to cooperate with their neighbors of India and Mongolia. This is a healthy position and a well deserved behavior for all of mankind to learn from!

[@garrett6064]

China is in a constant skirmish with India at their border and has taken Indian land by gunpoint. Part of Mongolia is disputed land with China. Tibet used to be a country, not a province. (As did a few others in the region.) In 1979 China tried to invade Vietnam but lost. Laos joined China's Belt and Road, and now China owns the entire power grid there. China gives generous lines to poor countries for things that they can't afford and then ends up giving China mineral rights, seaports, or military bases. China is not a friendly neighbor.

[@garrett6064]

@Jonathan-jp4zz I'm correcting the OP of this thread. But speaking of bots... I follow 6 news stations dedicated to China and don't know anyone in the governments name beside Xi Jinping, let alone their positions or educational background. I daresay one would have to understand the language and follow local Chinese news to know that. Or you just made it up. Also, any Westerner would know the CIA can not operate inside the US and certainly doesn't care what some kid on youtube thinks. Lastly, you weren't tagged by me, which means you came back to this post to follow up on it voluntarily. Who does that? People who are posting for their job. To summarize: 1) you have an unnatural knowledge of the inner workings of the CCP. 2) you don't know simple western civilization facts. 3) you follow up on your posts like people who do this for their job. 4) you immediately jump to "bot" as an insult. I think because you've already been called one more than a few times. I think it's obvious who the paid employee who is here.

[@garrett6064]

@@Jonathan-jp4zz can't debate fact.

[@GCMartin4Collaboration]

Where are you sourcing that info, excepting the border skirmiskes? Your slant on history is not factual according to the accounts. Even your depiction "gunpoint at the border" is not totally factual, Viet-Nam invasion is not supported with historical facts. Why and where did you get this? @@garrett6064

[@GCMartin4Collaboration]

@@garrett6064 I sense that you share a hatred where you look for efforts to discredit achievement based upon that. If any human or any country creates usefulness to mankind and those around them, I, personally not only cherish that behavior but ALSO welcome that. For a country that has existed for 12000 years in keeping its borders, has been put upon by so many in the world; and, to provide the thoughtful behaviors it shows to get to this point in human history with what they do to help others over the past 75 years, is an accomplishment. They do not invade others and seek no known attempts to not be fair in their dealings with those countries that they help. They are NOT a BANANA REPUBLIC (I'm sure you know who that pertains to) that you might find joy in that knowledge. Why dont you just give then credit in their efforts to reduce the world's carbon footprint as it benefits mankind? And for their efforts to help disadvantaged countries, as all the BRIC countries are doing to help, I think things like this, being shared by this video's author, needs more of us being aware of this fact and benefit happening in the world. If YOU want to pick on some country, start with the century old "banana republic" that still is stifling. That's just one of the many inequities occurring.

[@ZalamaTheDragonGod]

The IMF and world bank have no room to talk about human rights abuses and neocolonialism.

[@T3nno]

China truly has mandate of heaven. god bless them!

[@Hans-gb4mv]

I don't have a real problem with China building new coal plants as well, the bigger question there is: how fast are they decommissioning old coal power plants? As good as renewable energy is, if you have hundreds of GW in solar, you are missing those hundreds of GWs at night. And you still want your country to have power at night, so you need something. And while gas would be a cleaner option, China doesn't really have any gas reserves of its own so if you want some independence, you have to go with what you have, and that's coal in this case. But at the end of the day, if you translate China's pollution on a per capita basis, they are still far behind number 1. And that's maybe an even more important message. Because China's GHG emissions might be peaking this year and go in decline from next year onward (just like their population) but the same cannot be said for some other major polluters in this world.

[@Gris59]

Every Chinese coal powered plant is more efficient than the same American plant in the same category.

[@kongwee1978]

Couple hundreds of inefficient coal plant still running in China. That why China is installing 2 coal plant per week up to 2025. @@Gris59

[@Kriss_L]

China isn't going green - they are building more coal plants. They need as much power from everything they can build.

[@ruedelta]

Keep in mind it is coal capacity, not usage. The new ones are for peaking/load following. The old ones are being decommissioned as clean energy takes their place.

[@hesichen]

Many energy storage option are available to guarantee energy output during continuos insufficient solar exposure (bad weather) lasting days even weeks, some of them are well consolidated technology, like the one based on molten salt.

[@hassanj1861]

US: We need to transition to green energy China: Ok boss, we start building US: Chinese green energy is a danger to the world

[@kxdlxnn]

你是要笑死我吗

[@风声-g1j]

hahaha

[@leoy4186]

Our country need to understand what other countries are doing instead bad mouthing other countries all the time. This is the only way we can improve our country

[@Joey-Pan1898]

Most time we Chinese are learning from USA, happy to see people learning something from us

[@robertadams4942]

They're using technology developed in Australia by Professor Martin Green.

[@Mfields4517]

@@robertadams4942 and america runs on oil burning invented by Germans… who cares who invented it? Lol

[@WastedContender]

you can see the checkboard technique they use to regreen the desert at 1:51. it prevents erosion and is really lowtech, easy to reproduce.

[@jayceh]

1) theres no way the US can manufacture solar as cheaply and in the high quality of Chinese panels 2) the UHDV transmission lines are not ready in the US because of land use regulations 3) Chinese coal plants are replacing 50+ year old coal plants with 5x more efficiency. They've added 50% more net coal capacity in the last 10 years but metric tons of coal consumed has grown less than 0.4% per year.

[@apoorhorseabusedbycenk]

1. Main reason slave labour and no regulations on environmental protections. 2. America doesn't really need to transport power 1000's of km's. 3. You don't understand anything. 5

[@adams74]

solar panels can also be installed on the roof of every house and commercial building to reduce demand. Lamp poles can also have included vertical small windmills. Those lamp poles do not take space because they are already taking space. And so does the roof.

[@GGN-92]

Thanks for this very interesting report. Take care of yourself!

[@bekind2047]

Every panel counts - no matter where! Same for other renewables.

[@samiktiri]

Excellent episode 💯

[@ddream777]

Matt, you probably didn't have time to cover this. The sand under the panels are turning green with the panel shades and water washing the sand out.

[@Chinook-tj9bv]

Awesome video... keep up the good work!

[@YongLi-np3wg]

I live in Beijing. Last time I remember there's a power outage was in the summer of 2009. Never seen one afterwards.

[@webster853]

All top -10 biggest solar panel farms in the world are at the level of 2 to dozens of GWs, and none of them are in the US.

[@thabom9791]

"Neo-colonialism from China": You are wrong. The Western Nations landed in Africa, America and Asia with guns and exerted complete control over the economy and trade of the colonised countries and their peoples. China comes with contract proposals, which the countries can accept and refuse.

[@2A-Jake]

Yeah... offers of grandiose infrastructure, and economic benefits, all while pampering the corrupt leaders and landing their country in generational debt that China knows can't be paid, ensuring their compliance for as long as it's needed.

[@develentsai3215]

How can African government refuse? The Chinese Communist Party just bribed the African government official and signed the contract that the African people can't pay back, this put African people in debt for generations!

[@develentsai3215]

How can African government refuse? The Chinese Communist Party just bribed the African government official and signed the contract that the African people can't pay back, this just put African people in debt for generations!

[@EragonThenics]

True

[@ramonkroutz]

Absolutely

[@thechloromancer3310]

Chiming in from Beijing: I didn't experience power black-out in 2021... but Beijing is a very big city. It is possible I just wasn't in the effected zone. As for pollution: we've had a few really bad days in the past few years, but smog generally stopped being a common problem in this city well over ten years ago. Factories moved further from the city centre, or to other cities entirely, taking their pollution out of sight (for us, at least).

[@wanglius]

The new air problem for Beijing and northern china is now the nation of Mongolia. The Mongolian gov is basically doing nothing to halt the ultra fast desertification of Mongolian soil and is creating the very biggest environmental cancer of the world.

[@rubenmartinez4555]

Dr. Brown: 1.21 gigwatts!!.... 1.21 gigawatts!!... Marty: what the hell is a gigawatt??! China: hold my panda

[@CN_SFY_General]

Solar power plants in the desert go together with farming in the deserts. They can grow together perfectly. One hundred years later, the deserts will disappear.

[@gahaylongplays7033]

Desserts are a vitally important component in our world’s ecosystems so i hope thats not true.

[@aaronl3753]

I am from midlee of China, muntainous village. so proud of my great country. i can't beave i can go abroud and have my house in big city, Suzhou because we didn't have power, no enough food, I wore my brother and sister's clothes when my chhildhood. we have good education at least. That's what changed my life.

[@OMDMIntl]

Great News Matt!

[@Hydrogen101]

Excellent topic. I wish they had a visitor’s center.

[@publicmail2]

Yea it's a wonderful country and government, you'll love it.

[@Hydrogen101]

@@publicmail2 I didn’t say anything about the government. It’s a shame tourism isn’t more popular because China has a massive portion of the earth and there are so many wonders to see. That’s all I’m saying.

[@goldengregory1]

You do realize that it's China...Western China that he's talking about.

[@turtlesoup8134]

@@Hydrogen101 It is getting more popular to travel to China since they made many visa exemptions deal with many countries. You probably can travel to China for 144 hours without visa.

[@sleepyjoe4529]

@@publicmail2 keep staying butthurt

[@vellocx]

As a german, I am ashamed at how badly our government handles the switch to renewables. It really feels like big names in oil, cole and some car companies are holding the progress back for "personal gain" (they are scared of change). Pls let the people that know their sh*t do their work (science, engineering) and have business not dictate everything for the worse

[@jwestney2859]

Solar AND wind AND fission! We need all of them at scale and more.

[@wanglius]

Well solar power is somehow fission, too.

[@DK-yz9xk]

Lmao I remember how the USA claimed that china were building nuke missile silos in the desert, and it turns out they used a zoomed out photo of a solar farm 😂😂😂

[@sarcasmo57]

Everyone else needs to get on with it.

[@nuqwestr]

China also building Molten Salt Nuclear. We need to pursue the same, not just wind/solar which is not a good fit for North America

[@stickynorth]

BINGO! This one ALONE deserves a follow up video! The thorium MSR is about to turn on any day in the Gobi and China just announced a fleet of 24,000 TEU superships using the same technology...

[@nuqwestr]

@@stickynorth if they can deal with the corrosion issue. we need to be ahead on this one. We don't even build ships anymore.

[@jaaklucas1329]

Corrosion...something like tide generation in the ocean but worse I think.

[@davidford694]

Was in the Chinese national museum, across the road from Tien Amin Square, to see the exhibit about my cousin Norman. The pollution was so bad you could see it INSIDE the building.

[@chlistens7742]

it is nice to see clean energy buildup in any country. I think right now battery stations are going to be needed all over the place to prevent curtailment. If we can prevent wind and solar power curtailment completely we can add more solar and wind (and batteries) to help push out other fuels, The biggest problem we have is the NIMBY people. I have seen so many people against wind turbines in there area... and against solar farms... and heck even worrying that solar on a rooftop is lowering there property value. We should also consider putting micro solar/battery systems in places were there is no clean power or even power cables. If we can prevent people from relying on coal and fossil fuels and wood burning we win.. It may take millions of panels to convert the USA but there are some countries were 1-4 panels and a battery would help a small community and have them never go coal or fossil fuel

[@chrisbynum4940]

Battery technology is advancing rapidly. There are currently large scale battery storage projects being worked on that will be coming online soon. Solar energy is the fast growing energy sector in Texas at the moment, even with the resistance of the State Government and big Oil companies.

[@michaelr3647]

When you come to sell, buyers will pay more for a house that's cheaper to run because of the solar panels, especially if you have battery storage too.

[@MrBashem]

Those people also know about the downsides of wind turbines. Its nice when you only look at the positives.

[@Siris35]

These private energy companies in America need to stop lobbying for coal energy and allow solar panels and batteries to take over for renewable and cheaper energy for Americans.

[@yzhang9265]

When China promised 2030 Carbon Peak and 2060 Carbon Neutral, they are serious as as capable :)

[@benjaminchen5715]

As of June 2024, China's total renewable energy production has reached 1300 GW, which accounts for about 40% of their power consumption. Energy from burning coal has decreased to 37%. China is six years ahead of schedule. In the next six years, they are likely to achieve 75% renewable energy. By then, the price of crude oil should be significantly impacted. When oil prices are low, the cost of plastic, chemicals, and other related products will also decrease. I believe renewable energy is a win-win situation for consumers.